Open 770: Fusion Mafia - Game Over!

[Hectic]

@Norwee/Hectic: What would it take for you to buss as scum? Hypothetically.

I haven't played scum, but I think I'd bus at the point where I thought my partner would go down at the end of the day regardless of what I did.

This feels kind of misleady. I feel like I've seen you link your offsite scumgame before.
Is the second part of this based on irl mafia and what you think you do there usually, or did you try and imagine forum scum Hectic?

What if you're going for a tank build though? Like, I want to turtle up and block all incoming damage, and then peek out of my shell to cast hyper beam every once in a while.
I'm gonna go 100% AtE in my next game and see how it goes. Without making it toxic of course.

Can't we save this for Hoptic's next adventure?

That scumgame was years ago and before anything on this site though. I don't remember much from it other than the fact I claimed your flavour and got lynched for it (grumble grumble), and that I was some kind of bus driver.
Let's go full serenity from one of us, and full AtE from the other from the next Hoptic catastrophe.

[Hectic]

Hectic's new pfp is creeping me out

Only scum would have a reason to be afraid.

Do you TR any of the people that stayed on NorwegianboyEE's wagon?

pops and hoppie, yes, but not for staying on the wagon.

Remind me why you were calling me hardtown earlier?

[Hectic]

But George, why am I a lynch candidate for you?

It was pretty much the way you were pushing Ank that day.

Why did you want Ank lynched so much btw?

It was entirely to do with the Edguf replace out and then some reasons based on Ank trying to completely discredit that rather than play. I did get townpings from her towards the end though, but I'll admit I gave up on her wagon because I didn't think anyone would follow me on it.

[Hectic]

Hectic fixed his avatar, now I'll just sheep all his votes.

VOTE: Norwee

He's voting Norwee right?

Probably

Woah, have I found a hidden technique in getting people to sheep you?

Traumatise them with a soul-destroying avatar, and then switch back and look like an IC in comparison.

[Hectic]

Only scum would have a reason to be afraid.

Noob strats.
What you gotta do is find a picture of a kitten or something, like Joey_ has. That will make it harder for other people to lynch you.

Lul, is that what you're doing with your profile pic? I noticed it changed yesterday right about when you were wagoned

[Hectic]

Quick, change your pfp to a supersaint.

[Hectic]

Don't think I've ever seen your one change. Pretty scummy.

[Hectic]

If you lynch who I want today, I'll change my avatar to Scholarship Student Isis.

So... you won't change it?
Let us know if you do though, even if it's to the same avatar, since it's town-indicative for you.

[Hectic]

Lul, did your avatar get even more glitchy or is that my imagination?

[Hectic]

Wha͝t d̡o͞ ͠yo̵u̕ ̕męa̕n͜,͞ ́I ̡don̛'t see͝ ͢any̶th͜i͝ng gl͠itc̀h͏y̕ in ̀the̷ th͝r͠ead̶?

B̩̮̩͝͞L̴̰̺Ò͚̫̠O̸̦̻͟D̶̰͕͟ ̠͓̝͘F͓͇̩͢ͅO̰̺̗͈͉͕͡R̛͕̗͜͟ ̘Ţ̟͔̙̱̫̺́H̠͙͖̦͚͡E̮͇͡ ̨͚̤͚͙̣̤̹͇̥B҉̷̶̠̪͉͕͎̪͔L̴̟̬̱̰̜͇̟̬̀O̗̣̪͍͉̲̕O̯̻͖͓̳͍̲͟͞D̪̘͖̘ ͖͎̱̱̤͘G̠͉̻̰̠Ò̡̮͇͇̠̞̖͎͚D̢̫̼

[Hectic]

Hectic are you scum?

Y̧O̧̦̖̘̟͈̦U͠ ̦͖̙W̖̥I̲L̺͙̬̺͘L̢ ̭͇̬̘A̼̬̤̟͞L̻̣̟̩͉ͅL̀ P̣̰͈̼͔̮̺͞E̼̹̣R̳̬͙̪͠I͉͚͉S̶̹̥H͎̩̩̻̹͎͘ ̯̜̼A͉̺̳̲̙͇͙S̻͈̫ ͕̯͍͍͉͡I̭ ͕̝SL̙͍͚̝A̝͕̗͉̰̝U̞͍̝G͕͕͎̜̮̯H͜T̸͚̯̯̯ER ̼̮YǪ͓͈̲̜ͅU̡̹͉ ͖̭͕͍̫L̢̺͖̩Ị̘̞́K̬E̲̦ ̖̱̰̜͠L͙͇̯̮͢A̬̹̟̖̲̯̯MB͈̞͕S̳͎̦̺̠

Absolutely not.

[Hectic]

Just because I'm a devout follower of Eris (/ˈɪərɪs, ˈɛrɪs/; Greek: Ἔρις, "Strife") - the Greek goddess of strife and discord - doesn't make me

scum

, Pops.

Honestly, the stereotyping nowadays.

[Hectic]

ugh I get this every game now

if i haven't solved the game by day 2 it automatically makes me a policy lynch just because i'm me and have a 90% town winrate this has happened to me 7 games in a row and 6 of those are on meme alts not including this one

i'm sick of this and mafia in general

[Hectic]

Lul, and you said MY avatar was soul rending. 10/10 gaslighting attempt.

[Hectic]

How I feel right now:

[Hectic]

Anyway i think

VOTE: hectic

Is the way

He pushes norway
He says the whole other wagon is town so I predict 1 = scum
He also is concerned with the pairing a bit too much

For me, I figure when I get a lover, i get a free IC so... who care who it is... its just a bonus... hectic is concerned with being paired to me which feels like he is just trying to plan the long term sequence of events

Town thinking should just be to find scum #1 and go from there imo

Context was different there. I was imagining the hypothetical where Pissy is scum and gets lynched for me claiming he's my partner. Then what poor sucker gets paired with me to get dragged down tomorrow. It meant nothing for scumreads or planning lul.

[Hectic]

I'm really hesitant on the Norway Wagon, just because of the way Profii tried to force a wagon on the person. I'm just so pinged by the move. I wanna hear more from Profii.

What do you think of the Norwee wagon now?

[Hectic]

I'm struggling to see how this is coming from town!you, Norwee. You had so much fight in you and went down mad in the Large game we played recently. And I still don't really get your flip on me, many were scumreading you yesterday, I just happened to be the first voting you today, and it feels like you grasped onto that as a reason to flip your read on me, because you see me as a viable mislynch today.

[Hectic]

@Flopz:

If you believe Norwee is obvious scum and more likely to be scum over me, could you vote him please?

Lynching your number 1 scumread:
+Higher chance of flipping scum.
+If scum, examine pairings the next day to see if your no 2 scumread is correct.
-Can't gambit instawin if you're extremely confident about both scumreads.

Lynching your number 2 scumread:
-Lower chance of flipping scum.
-If town, probably gonna lynch your number 1 scumread the next day anyway.
+Can gambit instawin if you're extremely confident about both.

Hope this makes sense.

[Hectic]

I'm struggling to see how this is coming from town!you, Norwee. You had so much fight in you and went down mad in the Large game we played recently. And I still don't really get your flip on me, many were scumreading you yesterday, I just happened to be the first voting you today, and it feels like you grasped onto that as a reason to flip your read on me, because you see me as a viable mislynch today.

Cute attempt at meta read. Obviously you must have been planning this outcome, i like how you’re pointing hands at my supposed "flip" when it is you that immediately began the day by calling me scum when just yesterday you were scumreading Dunn hard.

Dunn flipped town; that's the important data point you're missing here, that makes me reconsider you who was counterwagoned by Dunns. What's wrong with the meta read, am I wrong?

[Hectic]

We're going with lynch Norway then see who Hectic gets paired up with (cough profii) right?

Honestly, that's been my thought throughout this whole nightphase. We lynch one of these jokers and then take out the romantic couple that remains. The question is do we go for Norwee or Hectic? Norwee is basically ObvScum at this point so makes sense for a lynch on him straight out of the gate but I'm leaning towards the idea of taking out Hectic and then lynching the 100% confirmed ScumCouple that Norwee is on. I'm thinking of this on the incredibly low chance that Hectic is Town, which I don't believe for a second, we can then lynch Norwee the subsequent night and the ScumCouple that's left will be pretty obvious from those remaining.

Free Information

I didn't like the reversal of Hectic and PK for the vote, right at the end. Profii came out of left-field and completely changed my view of him with the move from Norwee to Dunn.

^Flopz indicated earlier here that Norwee was obvscum to him, Looker.

Profii and Norwee are voting their no 1 scumread as far as I can tell, but I'm still trying to talk to them about that.

[Hectic]

Though, what's your read on Flopz now? What caused you to switch back to me, Norwee?

[Hectic]

Looker asks really unique questions tbh. It's a far better way than asking people generically about their reads.

[Hectic]

Town, I think. It's hard to articulate my read on him; a lot his reads and takes I disagree with but they seem genuine/too nuanced to come from scum. I'm like 70% sure Norwee is scum now, so considering that, his blatant attempt to counterwagon Norwee actually comes from scum less often than town if Norwee is scum. It's suicide and could insta lose them the game tomorrow on a scum!Norwee flip.

[Hectic]

That's brilliant lol. I'm looking forward to the narratives we can come up with our powers combined when we hydra in that Korina game.

Also, you may be surprised to hear that's not the first fanfic someone has written about my death. *cough*

Hopkirk

*cough*

[Hectic]

Aight, i'mma sheep Ank and go with my strongest Scumread right now. Norway is a good pick. But the way Hectic tried to vote Ank out, the way he was hopping from the Gamma wagon, to the Dunn wagon, then to the Norway wagon, felt like he was trying to find a wagon to latch onto in hopes of an easy lynch. I think he's a pretty good choice for today's lynch.

VOTE: Hectic

I say we lynch Hectic, then Norway tomorrow. If pops is right about Ank calling out the Scum team from the beginning, then that would be amazing.

But George, if Ank/Norwee/Dunnst are all town, then I have no reason as scum to vote switch so often and try and latch onto an "easy" wagon yesterday, when any of those wagons result in a mislynch anyway. If you want to sheep Ank, sheep her on Norwee please.

[Hectic]

Dunn flipped town; that's the important data point you're missing here, that makes me reconsider you who was counterwagoned by Dunns. What's wrong with the meta read, am I wrong?

Though, what's your read on Flopz now? What caused you to switch back to me, Norwee?

^Norwee

[Hectic]

Anyway i think

VOTE: hectic

Is the way

He pushes norway
He says the whole other wagon is town so I predict 1 = scum
He also is concerned with the pairing a bit too much

For me, I figure when I get a lover, i get a free IC so... who care who it is... its just a bonus... hectic is concerned with being paired to me which feels like he is just trying to plan the long term sequence of events

Town thinking should just be to find scum #1 and go from there imo

Profii, how do I convince you to lynch Norwee (who is probably scum) over me?
I was the first one out today to push and vote for Norwee. As scum, do I really want the kind of negative attention associated with flipping on my read and pushing someone from the outset like that? It'd be far safer to wait it out a little, let the Norwee wagon reform from the same candidates who scumread him yesterday, and then hop on later after being "convinced" of the reasons others have given.
But instead, because I'm town, I came out today with my honest thoughts while being transparent - not worried about appearances - and voted who I thought had the best chance of flipping scum. Note, I wasn't THAT sure about Norwee when I initially voted him, but his OMGUS and actions since have made me more confident on him.

[Hectic]

Votecount 2.1

(4) NorwegianboyEE

- Hectic, Hopkirk, popsofctown, Elements

(L-2)

(3) Hectic

- Flopz, profii, NorwegianboyEE

(2) profii

- Looker, pisskop

ofrhz and GeorgeBailey are not voting.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-01-26 11:41:00).

Sincere apologies for lack of VC - didn't have computer access and formatting a new day VC on phone sucked so much I kept giving up. Computer access is something I'll address before modding again. Thanks for patience.

ofrhz has requested replacement. Deadline will be extended when one is found.

George is on me as well actually.
grumble grumble
How do I get myself into this position?

Corrected. Sorry!!!

[Hectic]

Well, yeah. See: 1462 + 1478 + 1479 + 1481 + 1665

[Hectic]

Because Norwee and I are both on 4 votes.

[Hectic]

I have utmost faith in Adorable here

[Hectic]

Yeah, could you step the avatar down a cuteness level or 2, Adorable? Some of us are trying to lead honest lives here

[Hectic]

I wasn't in Ank's solve at the end of day 1... why do people keep sheeping Ank on a non-exist read? If you want to sheep her, sheep her on Norwee for the love of God.

George, how were Norwee and I bussing yesterday? We were actually townreading each other mostly for the entirety of yesterday, I don't understand how you got the impression we tried to bus each other but then decided to mislynch Dunnstr instead.

[Hectic]

eGorBageyli

What happened to Hectic?

in both sense that sentence could be read.

I was wary about hectic and Norwegian being a team because of hectics turn on pisskop, but it makes more sense with pisskop being town

I thick they're both scum again

Oh, nvm, she did think we were both scum lol

[Hectic]

You come across particularly desperate not to get lynched

I just wanna play in the lover pairings phase, it's the sole reason for me joining the game so it sucks to be lynched before that, and the fact lynching Norwee probably gets us to that phase.

[Hectic]

It's probably Pissy + Norwee then I suppose. Flopz, I don't know what you're doing honestly, but I think he's more likely town.

[Hectic]

Pissy was hard townreading me and called me hardtown multiple times before this random flip just now.

[Hectic]

3 of Profii + Pissy + Norwee + Looker I reckon.

If Norwee is town, you guys are screwed lol.

[Hectic]

Good luck with that.

[Hectic]

Did you change your avatar so many times so that people would forget who you were?

Is that why you voted me?

Interesting approach, Looker. I'm surprised.

[Hectic]

Lul