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at an ev level only scum power is strongman - town have full cop and can conditionally generate alignment results via roleblocker. The rolestopper/roleblocker synergy backs this.
There's enough information that this could swing heavily to either alignment but imo only via rewarding good play and analysis
I suspect you may be viewing this with a lens of 'being good at scum and highly analytical' which is a level beyond the majority of players.
all the same if you have any feedback on achieving better balance is be super interested-
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Sweet. Thanks for the balancing feedback both of you - let me have a play around, I'll get back here with something a bit closer to reasonable.
Of course if PP has any other feedback I'll take that on board too.-
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Can we add an Alisae in here please? E helped with the design-
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(elena fisher's role pm, not fireb's)In post 13, Alisae wrote:
this was done before btw (see firebringer's role pm)In post 12, Alisae wrote:1) Is it possible to disable the ascetic if the doctor makes the kill? I think that would dissuade the ascetic from making kills.-
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so like
Town Informed Cop (there's a doctor)
Town Roleblocker
Town Rolestopper
Town Combined Follower/Tracker
Town Ascetic
vs.
Scum Informed Doctor Activated Ascetic (there is a cop)
Informed Encrypter (there's an odd-night roleblocker)
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yeahhhhIn post 24, Alisae wrote:
u mean there is a roleblockerIn post 23, the worst wrote:Informed Encrypter (there's an odd-night roleblocker)
Town Informed Cop (there's a doctor)
Town Roleblocker
Town Rolestopper
Town Combined Follower/Tracker
Town Ascetic
vs.
Scum Informed Doctor Activated Ascetic (there is a cop)
Informed Encrypter (there's a roleblocker)
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idk if it helps but the mindgames/encouragement to think creatively through scum informed status is pretty pivotal to the intention of the setup. i'll take balance feedback but if there's a way we can keep that in tact it'd be hugely appreciated.
i think the value of a single strongman shot with an ~idea~ of how to use it is probably pretty close to 2s strongman without informed status but with the obvious unspoken implication that having a strongman is a balancing factor.-
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i think i pretty much agree if the followertracker was getting hard clears, we would literally need more scum power. in this instance they can get conditional softclears, and a possible guilty; "FTFT" doesn't sit in for FTC effectively.
a blocked kill is also like a decent possibility in this setup, via roleblocker or rolestopper. a kill being blocked is obviously +town but it creates friction between whether the rb has a guilty or rs has an inno; in the case of the latter it is indeed much more likely to be the case if we're talking about a claimed TPR.
i think one strongman shot and then scum needing to play around the followertracker sounds like a reasonable challenge fmpov allowing that town has to play around manipulative day/night play from the scumteam. it's a swingy and complicated setup but i think it tends towards rewarding deduction/deception more than rewarding sound mechplay, which was the original intent. the current rendition actually does that really well imo and i do think this process has given town the power they need to handle scum's power; giving scum an extra crutch to allow for the contingency of FTFT as backup to FTC might actually swing it back towards scum again i think?-
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I should have a pc + Internet access over the next few days; watch this space.-
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first draft pls no judge i need to read over these
Spoiler: informed cop
Spoiler: roleblocker
Spoiler: rolestopper-
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fixed spoiler tag formatting
Spoiler: informed cop
Spoiler: roleblocker
Spoiler: rolestopper
Spoiler: combined follower/tracker
Spoiler: town ascetic
Spoiler: vanilla townie
Spoiler: *deep breath* scum informed doctor activated ascetic
Spoiler: informed encryptor
Spoiler: one-shot strongman-
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i'll advertise the game as 7/2 phases assuming that's ok with the nrg squad-
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daychat conspicuously omitted from the rules because encryptor-
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Yeah. Good call. I agree with those categories
cop inv
roleblocker blocking
rolestopper blocking
follower tracker inv (doesn't matter)
doctor protective
scum nightkill killing
no active ability no result
ascetic or blocked no result-
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cop inv
roleblocker blocking
rolestopper blocking
follower tracker inv (doesn't matter)
doctor protective
scum nightkill killing
no active ability = did not see anything
ascetic = did not see anything
blocked = no result
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! contradicted myself perfectly against the role PMs.
ok. I'll work off that list in #49.
with that adjustment are you comfortable passing?-
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oh that is gorgeous. I did not realise it was a thing -- thank you so much!-
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Cool, I'm strongly on board with that list. Makes my job a lot easier working off a guide too.
If you guys are cool with this im happy.-
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i personally am very excited.
thank you all so much for your help.
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