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Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:47 am

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In post 1148, gobbledygook wrote:There’s some qualifications to my role that I think prevent this interaction from being what you think.
Fair enough. Shouldn't have jumped to conclusions :P
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Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:48 am

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Pretty sure my role was designed to look tempting, but in all likelihood is just a VT.
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Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 1149, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1142, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 1127, gobbledygook wrote:I think Suji killed Pine.
Why do you think this?
You’ve been giving off vig vibes today with the ability related plea for me to vote Thief.
I am not sure how you made that leap in logic as my request for voting the Thief Stone was predicated on not liking the Mage Stone's active effect plus the desire to increase a Stone level to five and the Mage Stone leveler being dead (). I only stated that I preferred my ability to your Lightning Rod ability when you presented that as your reason for wanting to vote for the Mage Stone despite what I previously said ().
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Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:40 am

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Do you think SS is scum? Do you think Dong is scum?
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Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:59 am

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The possibility exists. Yes.

I am assuming you wanted to use that as a segue into how you would have to be town because of what has been stated regarding roles and results, but that is sidestepping my questioning as to your actual logic leading you to the conclusion that I am a vigilante. I would like to understand that.
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Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:23 am

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This day would go a lot easier if you just applied Occam’s Razor to the little triumvirate. To answer your question, I did answer your question. I thought the plea to vote Thief was indicative of you being the vigilante.
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Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:35 am

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I am not sure why you felt the need to announce your suspicions. You had me in your “townblock” prior to my assertion I preferred a Thief Stone vote, so could you explain why? Also, please explain why Mastina is Your preferred vote for today.
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Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:52 pm

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i think one of the last two neighbours/stone activators is probably scum because it just makes sense that one of them would be

we leave Dosh alive and hopefully get both them and Gobsie confirmed

VOTE: Mastina
Mastina what do you mean Wake is "still the best vote"? i haven't seen you give reasons for him specifically as scum yesterday or seen you vote him
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Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:53 pm

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also i want to hear from alimdia and Wake whether they think the other is scum and what their read is on them
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Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:01 pm

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In post 1157, Eve wrote:i think one of the last two neighbours/stone activators is probably scum because it just makes sense that one of them would be
Your analytic powers are truly staggering. :roll:
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Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:30 pm

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you don't think all 3 neighbours as stone levelers and town is imbalanced?
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Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:07 pm

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I don't know the whole setup. The strength of the levelers is completely dependent on what powers they enable.
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Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:38 pm

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To the person who asked me why Mastina.

Well, the GIF and Mastina slot has done literally nothing the entire game.

Her vote on BS looked like she was reverse engineering her way onto the wagon so that it looked less bad than it was.

Xtoxm said the Mastina slot was the wolfiest slot in the game. Then Xtoxm died.

She is voting the claimed bodyguard who is self-resolving.
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Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:39 pm

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SS, I think your core is {Dong, me, you, Suj, Wake}

I don't think scum claims bodyguard in this type of game. He is self resolving anyway.
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Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:44 pm

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I'm gonna try to hold off on talking about mastina until she comes back.
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Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:05 pm

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I just can't make up my mind about Alimidia or Eve. I think Xtoxm dying means that the scum is Eve. A neighbor dying would implicate the other neighbors.
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Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:16 pm

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I do not like Pine's associations with alimdia as I mentioned toward the start of Day 2.
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Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:22 pm

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I am okay with a mastina lynch today.
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Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:27 pm

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In post 1162, gobbledygook wrote:To the person who asked me why Mastina.
That was me. Thank you. Could you also explain the following?
In post 1156, Sujimichi wrote:You had me in your “townblock” prior to my assertion I preferred a Thief Stone vote, so could you explain why?
Also, I am not going to dance around this anymore given that I have hinted at this in my posting yesterday (which is why I wanted something more from gobbledygook then my preference for the Thief Stone) and my Flavor Claim is indicative of it. I am a Vigilante, and I did kill Pine. I require the Thief Stone to work which is why there was no shot last night.
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Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:28 pm

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wasn't Xtoxm townreading me?

i think from a balance standpoint if you have a game full of PRs - stone leveling is gonna activate more town abilities than scum abilities since a lot of people have claimed that stones power them up - so leveling is great for town and bad for scum overall

that's why i think it's likely there's scum there
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Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:29 pm

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it's snowbally basically if scum have no control over it
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Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:30 pm

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In post 1169, Eve wrote:wasn't Xtoxm townreading me?
He was not explicit in his read on you, but he did call you a "bright light" in this game.
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Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:36 pm

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In post 1146, Sujimichi wrote:Wake88, why are you not voting alimdia?
Uh.. because you need me alive at night to raise the theif stone to lvl 4? Literally throwing if you lynch me cos then dongfish can't get confirmed/not confirmed
In post 1158, Eve wrote:also i want to hear from alimdia and Wake whether they think the other is scum and what their read is on them
I think there is a higher chance that mastina/Eve is scum than wake is now honestly.
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Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:36 pm

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I also don't see why scum would kill Xtoxm, wouldn't they kill Zenith or dongfish instead?
That screams like a third party/vig kill to me.
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Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:40 pm

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In post 1172, alimdia wrote:Uh.. because you need me alive at night to raise the theif stone to lvl 4? Literally throwing if you lynch me cos then dongfish can't get confirmed/not confirmed
I did not ask Wake88 why he was not voting you in an effort to secure your lynch. I asked Wake88 why he was not voting you becuase of his confidence that the Neighborhood was not all Town and Xtoxm's recent night kill. Per his thought process, you should be Mafia with a high level of confidence.

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In post 859, Wake1 wrote:
In post 858, Zenith wrote:I don't view hood membership as AI.
Thoughts on the assumption that a 3-player NH likely contains at least one Scum?

I, for one, do.
In post 930, Wake1 wrote:I DO NOT like the idea that all 3 in the NH should be considered Town.

It's not logical and it's not safe.
In post 1039, Wake1 wrote:
In post 1029, alimdia wrote:
In post 1025, Wake1 wrote:I targeted Dongfish.
Why?
I don't trust just obeying the commands of an unconfirmed player in my NH, when I know for a fact I'm Town and there's USUALLY (from modding experience) a high chance of Scum being in a Neighborhood, period.

And with the other NH member being killed, considering what he was discussing in there with us, I do not trust you to be Town in this game. Absolutely not.


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