Everything Is Still A Lie v2 [Canceled]

[TrueSoulHustler]

Hello. Thank you Penguin!
-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Vote: TrueSoulHustler.

Policy on TSE, who I thought had been WOTMed out.

TSE was originally WOTM'd out; however, after looking at the games he is currently playing in, it is apparent he has changed his playstyle. With that in mind, I felt comfortable enough allowing him to rejoin under the condition he agreed to a statement that basically said he won't do what he did again, and if it happens, I can forcibly replace him.

Soooo, I totally forgot I signed up for this, I'm gonna need a second to figure out what the fuck is going on.

A lot of bullshit. Someone killed me N0, and I'm pissed off about that. Apart from that, nothing else has happened afaik.

Or did they kill you N0.

Maybe, you killed Yourself N0, and plan to revive yourself tomorrow.

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Game modded by Korina

Spoiler: dead (1)

1. Korina
   , a
   Unlynchable Post-Restricted Mystical Non-Majority Mod-Confirmed Cultist Game Moderator
   committed suicide
   Night 0
   .

Everything before this post, and in this post is guaranteed to be truthful—except for role flips. Role flips, (unless otherwise specified), are what the player in question was sent..

Considering how the fact I'm listed as the game moderator in post zero, and listed as dead in the same post, along with the fact that everything in post zero is confirmed to be truthful, (except for role flips), I would say you have ample proof I'm both a player and a moderator.

But your not TreeStump.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Korina

is whispering to

Jake The Wolfie

. Korina has 6 whispers left for today.

0.0
You teaming with them?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: TSH tbh

Am I the place you put your holder on?
You wouldn’t have it anywhere else?
(Why buy a mattress, anywhere else? Reference)

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Everyone whisper me your true alignment so I can negotiate on behalf of my team

what team tbh

Did you not hear? He claimed Mafia Goon.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

-snip-

But your not TreeStump.

-TSE

It's the Mystical modifier. I asked already. Mystical is effectively tree-stump, but if somehow the player is ever revived, they retain their vote, (if they had one to begin with.) Tree-stumps can't be revived according to the mod.

So Jake is your Retributionist?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Korina

is whispering to

Jake The Wolfie

. Korina has 6 whispers left for today.

0.0
You teaming with them?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

-TSE

They literally said "VOTE: TrueSoulHustler" so I think I'm gonna VOTE: TrueSoulHustler

Doubt.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

sup fools

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this game is gonna be a mess LOL

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Vote: TrueSoulHustler.

Policy on TSE, who I thought had been WOTMed out.

tse is now a hydra and also swore to be a better person this game

this isnt fair in the slightest
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Oh btw we have a dayvig and it will be used on anyone who fails to compliment our avi

-rose

your avi is a very clever choice and i love it

[TrueSoulHustler]

Oh btw we have a dayvig and it will be used on anyone who fails to compliment our avi

-rose

your avi is a very clever choice and i love it

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now im just annoyed that i keep screwing up

[TrueSoulHustler]

Soooo, I totally forgot I signed up for this, I'm gonna need a second to figure out what the fuck is going on.

im in the same boat fam
signed up to a game and looked at the setup later and realised the hell im about to put myself through

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Drew's dangerous, but in my experience, insomnia's usually scum.
VOTE: insomnia

-Hectic

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[TrueSoulHustler]

I mean, I could be cult. Or I could be claiming that I'm not cult while I actually am just to fuck with everyone.
You decide if I made myself cult in this game.

nah im soulreading you and the op was telling the truth

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Game modded by Korina

Spoiler: dead (1)

1. Korina
   , a
   Unlynchable Post-Restricted Mystical Non-Majority Mod-Confirmed Cultist Game Moderator
   committed suicide
   Night 0
   .

Everything before this post, and in this post is guaranteed to be truthful—except for role flips. Role flips, (unless otherwise specified), are what the player in question was sent..

Considering how the fact I'm listed as the game moderator in post zero, and listed as dead in the same post, along with the fact that everything in post zero is confirmed to be truthful, (except for role flips), I would say you have ample proof I'm both a player and a moderator.

getting pretty overdefensive yo
pretty wolfy ngl

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Korina

is whispering to

Jake The Wolfie

. Korina has 6 whispers left for today.

0.0
You teaming with them?

VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

-TSE

They literally said "VOTE: TrueSoulHustler" so I think I'm gonna VOTE: TrueSoulHustler

wtf korina bussing already
js

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Anyone who wants jester win day 1 whisper me and I will make it happen

Trust in the scum guys

why dafuq do u got jeffery epstein in ur pfp

jeffery epstein didnt kill himself

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[TrueSoulHustler]

now i disappear unless theres questions
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Drew's dangerous, but in my experience, insomnia's usually scum.
VOTE: insomnia

-Hectic

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Why not follow up with a vote here? What does this post tell you?

the :glare: was mostly because i couldnt tell if they were serious or not

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[TrueSoulHustler]

This game’s gonna be fluff up til like page 20

I say we spend the time getting to know each other and whoever doesn’t take part in the process of bonding is gonna get lynched.

P-edit : so why not ask them if they were serious or not instead of posting that android emote

agreed, early day 1 should be taken easy where players get a grasp of everyones playstyle

it also gets plenty of ai content

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because the blobglare would have the same effect, and could bait a reaction out of them that is AI unlike their vote post

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[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

If your town that did this jury thing, hard Claim now.
If not, then Min either has been put on trail by scum or is scum that helps their wincon by doing this.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Minstrel is

GUILTY

?

No?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

i dont know how this trial started but it is waaaay to fuckin early

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[TrueSoulHustler]

phone might die so if i disappear its cus of that

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Honestly, Minstrel getting put on trial was rather funny, but like, was there any real reason for it? Does anyone know?
Also, I’d like this to get inno’d. It’s not even a full IRL day into the game, and if Minstrel is found guilty, that ends the day.

Yeah, on the other hand, a guilty would be banter.

Lul, can we not get meme-lynched 1 IRL day in please?

-Hectic

+1
i think my counterpart is right in saying whoever started it isnt exactly towny

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Whispering Role PMs isn't allowed. Quoting any sort of private communication in whispers, in general, isn't allowed. You're allowed to summarize though.

dats broken lul
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[TrueSoulHustler]

oh i misread lol
thought it said we could
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[TrueSoulHustler]

i dont know how this trial started but it is waaaay to fuckin early

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Agreed. Do we know who started the Trial?

- Turkey

i dont think so
which makes it all the more scummier on who did

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[TrueSoulHustler]

We're also on page 12, so when exactly does the "it just started nothing matters" phase end guys?

literally only rauther said this im pretty sure
not giving you towncred for that
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Our account was made before we got our role PM, Obum. Our theme is writing poems... come on, I was just messing around.

sure but maybe bear in mind that people will pay attention to the first claim you make after you're randomly trialed? we have to make some sort of judgment about your alignment and so far you've gone out of your way to make that harder

didnt they literally also claim nightvig
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[TrueSoulHustler]

nvm they mentioned a day vig in a poem but it wasnt a claim
they were talking about an unknown party

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[TrueSoulHustler]

But presumably people can still roleclaim via whisper so long as they don't quote?

Yes, you can claim your role in whispers, so long as you're not quoting it or directly pasting it. Just paraphrase your role in whispers, like you would in the main thread. It's not hard.

Korina. Could there any roles like forger or janitor?
Could there be a role capable of eavesdropping whispers?

This is a highly bastard game, where I'm the moderator and the player. Really anything goes in this game.

I asked the mod. There is exactly one VT. No more, no less. We should threat it as an innocent child which can reveal anytime.

Why do you believe the mod is telling the truth about this?

Check post zero. I stated that there is exactly one VT role.

So if I went /Modkill (Player)

Could I potentially get that player modkilled?
After all you said anything goes.
-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

HAH, THAT'S A FUNNY JOKE.
I'm the CL.

Or maybe in reality your working with the CL.
Tell us your secrets!

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll also say that I'm one of the major reasons why Minstrel is on trial. I joked about how funny it'd be if we put someone on trial within the first IRL day, and Minstrel just happened to be the unlucky soul we picked.

Are they secretly your partner?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

But presumably people can still roleclaim via whisper so long as they don't quote?

Yes, you can claim your role in whispers, so long as you're not quoting it or directly pasting it. Just paraphrase your role in whispers, like you would in the main thread. It's not hard.

Korina. Could there any roles like forger or janitor?
Could there be a role capable of eavesdropping whispers?

This is a highly bastard game, where I'm the moderator and the player. Really anything goes in this game.

I asked the mod. There is exactly one VT. No more, no less. We should threat it as an innocent child which can reveal anytime.

Why do you believe the mod is telling the truth about this?

Check post zero. I stated that there is exactly one VT role.

So if I went /Modkill (Player)

Could I potentially get that player modkilled?
After all you said anything goes.
-TSE

I mean, there's a non-zero chance of that being possible. Korina actually flipped having that ability, basically.

Also, just realized that if we have a Jester in the game they

will

vote Guilty in these trials. So I'm not sure if we can go for abstain until we know if there's a Jester or not.

Hmm?
Your post here seems like your trying to make people vote guilty.
You Jury?
Also 1 Guilty doesn’t beat all the Non-Guilty’s.
The fact you say “Jester might be guilty so you should not abstain on this”
Is something a town member would say.
I think I’m good with putting you on my Scum reads but I’ll get MM’s input on it.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

hi

i'm town

who wants to have a private chat with me.

I’m down.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

also lmao why is the host part of the cult this is great

this is a great game so far tbh

What’s your favourite part?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I don’t get your jester logic tbh

Don’t they want the player not to be lynched so they have a shot at being lynched tbh

They want to get lynched. A guilty on Minstrel in this situation would probably get them lynched.

Not necessarily if they have a good reason for it.
Also the Jester doesn't directly want to openly reveal themselves either.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

also lmao why is the host part of the cult this is great

this is a great game so far tbh

What’s your favourite part?

-TSE

not sure tbh

what about you tbh?

The Host Playing.
That is interesting.
Makes your question his real intentions.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

i assume trial ends day, thus they shouldnt be guilty voted ever
if it does end day im taking guilty votes as a scum claim tbh

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Why do you believe long day 1s are pro-town?

discussion = town advantage

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[TrueSoulHustler]

What if the day ends even if we conclude he’s not guilty? Hmmmm

i love how we are using pronouns for a hydra lol

just taking it from every other mafia-esque game that employs this mechanic, not guiltys dont end day

[TrueSoulHustler]

Information overload is a thing and it’s against the town.

Let minstrel defend himself instead of you defending him.

im not defending minstrel im trying to keep town from self destructing day 1
day 1 is the most important day of them all so to want to cut it short is very anti town

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[TrueSoulHustler]

From what I can tell, the trial required a vote to start. Meaning more then one player voted to trial Minstrel. At this point in the game I'm fairly certain there aren't any town reasons to do a trial on a player.

My point is more that we shouldn't end the day this early. If we could abstain I'd go for that but the risk of scum forcing our lynch is too high. I'm not saying Minstrel is town. I'm just saying we can't risk ending the day this early and going into day 2 when not everyone has even posted (I think. I might be wrong there.)

you do realize town wins faster games right? dicking around and making the game unreadable with a bloated RVS with a million people is wildly anti-town. you don't think minstrel is scum, fair enough, explain why, but arguing that you should waste the next day and a half arguing he should be inno'd off policy is weaksauce

rushing it is even worse mate

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Ok, the only way

Is for all town to abstain

Not giving lynchproof

lynchproof?
what?

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Ending Day 1 within 48 hours of it starting is not a good idea, ObviousScum. The game has moved out of RVS so the Trial has served its purpose, but please stop trying to convince anyone that a 48 hour Day 1 is good for the overall health of the town.

I'm not saying we *must* end the day, I'm saying people should bother to sort the slot rather than taking innoing as a categorical necessity. Why are you indifferent to him backpedaling on a claim, joke or not? He basically joked about being a survivor/quasi-VT and now you and rauth seem to be saying to policy-inno him without really trying to sort him

Seems like we've moved out of RVS so why are you giving people permission to stall off policy?

wolfy

[TrueSoulHustler]

Trying to drag the gamestate into an abstract discussion of day 1 pacing policy I take as a scumclaim

Too easy to make provocative points about philosophy that have no actual bearing to the alignment of the player under consideration or anyone else

you have a habit of talking out your ass yourself

your stance on this topic shows you arent noticing how suicidal a day end is here, this fast (if ur town)

[TrueSoulHustler]

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i keep forgetting to tag myself

[TrueSoulHustler]

Trying to drag the gamestate into an abstract discussion of day 1 pacing policy I take as a scumclaim

Too easy to make provocative points about philosophy that have no actual bearing to the alignment of the player under consideration or anyone else

It shouldn't be a discussion. That should be basic knowledge.

++++++++++

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[TrueSoulHustler]

No, I voted for Minstrel. Like I said, I thought it'd be funny if we started a trial this early into the day.

I thought you said...
Actually I'm not sure why I thought you would be consistent.

the text wasnt blue so we dont have a single clue if theyre being honest

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[TrueSoulHustler]

The blue text is only used when I'm acting as the game's moderator.

still we shouldnt take literally anything you say at face value
u flipped cult afterall

[TrueSoulHustler]

Saying you should give the person on trial a trial is "suicidal"?

If you act as though the trial itself is moot then the votes tell us nothing and we waste an opportunity to evaluate votes cast in stealth

dont put words in my mouth

ending day at lightspeed is the suicidal thing here
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Saying you should give the person on trial a trial is "suicidal"?

If you act as though the trial itself is moot then the votes tell us nothing and we waste an opportunity to evaluate votes cast in stealth

dont put words in my mouth

ending day at lightspeed is the suicidal thing here
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Okay and when did I say to end the day at lightspeed? While we're busy putting words into people's mouths

arent you one of the ones that wanted a guilty vote?
if not this arguments been a mess from the get go

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[TrueSoulHustler]

I've been saying people should vote guilty if they think the slot is guilty

And that if they aren't sure they should get content from the slot that will make it readable

I think I said to vote guilty immediately after he retracted the "jokeclaim" because that backpedal was bad after they just did two posts to sell it but tbh I didn't realize simple majority would end day, I thought we were locked into 36 hours for some reason. I don't really care if people guilty him or not I just think arguing he should be inno'd off policy is dumb af

You wanna argue the philosophy of it, whatever, but I think acting like a certain amount of time must pass before the day can end makes every vote uninformative until that amount of time has passed

it was an obvious joooooooooke
ur such a squareeeeeee

youd have my vote if it werent for this bloody trial
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[TrueSoulHustler]

also i haven't read the thread before this page

and seth nah i don't want to talk to you

Why Not?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I've been saying people should vote guilty if they think the slot is guilty

And that if they aren't sure they should get content from the slot that will make it readable

I think I said to vote guilty immediately after he retracted the "jokeclaim" because that backpedal was bad after they just did two posts to sell it but tbh I didn't realize simple majority would end day, I thought we were locked into 36 hours for some reason. I don't really care if people guilty him or not I just think arguing he should be inno'd off policy is dumb af

You wanna argue the philosophy of it, whatever, but I think acting like a certain amount of time must pass before the day can end makes every vote uninformative until that amount of time has passed

Think of it this way.
There are more then 1 scum in this game.
Limiting the lynch for today to directly them seems dumb IMO.
Unless of course they have an ability that benefits from being Not Guilty in which case could cause issues later on.
Alternatively though, you don’t seem to mention that and view them as a scum we shouldn’t pass down and openly spoke that you want to Guilty them. Also makes me think you could be the reason they are on trail
Although I have doubt in that TBH.
Furthermore, my issue with you is I felt you went about it wrong rather then doing something that was wrong.
Understand what I’m throwing down?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

waddup bitches
here to catchup after a long ass sleep
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[TrueSoulHustler]

does the person on trial being declared innocent make them lynchproof?
ive heard that thrown around and if so im probably changing my vote to abstain

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[TrueSoulHustler]

it was an obvious joooooooooke
ur such a squareeeeeee

youd have my vote if it werent for this bloody trial
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Rich that the guy arguing to policy inno someone on trial is saying I'm the square

Like you realize you're arguing to play this bastard game in the most boring manner possible right?

being suicidal isnt cool or fun

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Yeah because if you loudly announce that they should be inno'd on policy then we learn literally nothing from the vote

You're acting like I was dead set on the guy getting lynched when the main thing I have said is that people should bother thinking about it before making him unlynchable

I kinda don't think korina gambits by putting his recruiter on trial in the first 24 hours just to make him unlynchable but given this was an opportunity to see who would actually vote guilty we could have gotten some actual content out of the vote, now it will probably be uninformative

theres nothing to learn in the first place
even if there was id argue minstrel (both heads) have reacted townily

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[TrueSoulHustler]

Iconeum

is whispering to

a Gun and a Rose

. 6/7

wait this is public?



fml

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[TrueSoulHustler]

what the hell 19 pages i thought this was mafiascum

cry more
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[TrueSoulHustler]

if we inno them on trial why would we want to hang them anyways
why do people care about lynchproofing

[TrueSoulHustler]

youre ignoring his other half

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[TrueSoulHustler]

I’d like to say I took a dump this morning.
Ok cool, now I’m leaving.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Cya Fools later

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

did you guys force TSE to not be aggresive anymore what the hell guys im saddened by this

TF you on?
I’m still aggressive just not toxic anymore.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

on page 14 and im starting to feel like reading the setup might be a good idea

the setup is a mess lul
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[TrueSoulHustler]

did you guys force TSE to not be aggresive anymore what the hell guys im saddened by this

part of the guys aggressiveness came from 'toxicness'
also he wants me on pr duty, the sole reason for our hydra is because he was helpless that he couldnt escape a PL/not being taken seriously c:
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Ending Day 1 within 48 hours of it starting is not a good idea, ObviousScum. The game has moved out of RVS so the Trial has served its purpose, but please stop trying to convince anyone that a 48 hour Day 1 is good for the overall health of the town.

I'm not saying we *must* end the day, I'm saying people should bother to sort the slot rather than taking innoing as a categorical necessity. Why are you indifferent to him backpedaling on a claim, joke or not? He basically joked about being a survivor/quasi-VT and now you and rauth seem to be saying to policy-inno him without really trying to sort him

Seems like we've moved out of RVS so why are you giving people permission to stall off policy?

wolfy

i agree, reeks of personal agenda rather than looking out for the town
clearly tell he just wants you to read the slot and specifically scumread it

Bad post

nice try lul
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Looks like I signed up for the wrong game. I'm bad at shitposting.

or you can
yknow
contribute
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Iconeum's progression barely makes any sense, unless that initial post was a joke. Which I presume to be semi-serious, given the back track in his next post.

My interpretation of that is that he scum read Menstral / had a gut ping / some form of suspicion, saw the trial on him, thought "Wow, ok, nice". Instead of actually checking on it at first, he thought it was a good idea, but then he looks at the Jury slot and thinks "Hmm, this is shady". The jury literally just announced that Menstral was on trial, I don't see how "Good, trial time" is followed by "Meh but that slot is weird", on a slot that gave you what you...wanted. Seems like a scum backtracking, looking to react to stuff, not having any actual stance on anybody yet.

@Menalque

i mean that progression isnt as bad as you say
at first i didnt care which result happened so i was gonna abstain but it clicked in my head how wolfy the trial was so /shrug
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[TrueSoulHustler]

And frankly, something that I don't think you as town!Ico would ever come out with.

#Town!Ico never does this

every.single.game.

if you actually think this isn't town!ico, you know nothing of me

if you truly believe i won't guilty in a meme game in a meme trial as town, you are mistaken

i've literally written out my honest thoughts as it happened, if you take the wrong conclusion from that so be it

i won't defend my actions there because i regret nothing

@insomn, you realize this game is called 'everything is a lie' right?

this is a mess of heavily overreactionary posts
i take back my mini defence of them
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[TrueSoulHustler]

[TrueSoulHustler]

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[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: Iconeum

minstrel the both of u not crumbling under the pressure is a towny reaction
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[TrueSoulHustler]

atleast obviousscum provided reason no matter how wolfy i find him
'voting guilty for the lulz' considering the place it could put town in is scummy as fuck
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[TrueSoulHustler]

atleast obviousscum provided reason no matter how wolfy i find him
'voting guilty for the lulz' considering the place it could put town in is scummy as fuck
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yeah

really not seeing what's scummy about it

yeah

it shows little to no care in towns ordeals
for the lulz seems you did it and you couldnt come up with a reason so you bullshitted it
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[TrueSoulHustler]

aight im disappearing again
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Insomnia and Icon aren’t TvT from my POV.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Insomnia and Icon aren’t TvT from my POV.

-TSE

why tbh

Same Vote Choice
Reaction Deference
ETC.

Mainly, just the way it went about.
You could call it gut but that isn’t it.
I have a PoE method that always works.
In this sense, this makes the most sense.
I’m not the best at communication so I can’t give you the best detail about it.
But just look at it yourself and tell me what you think.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Even towns that decide to "lol guilty" don't do it based on nothing / having no knowledge at all on a slot. I guarantee you, each and everyone of those people had

some

sort of reasoning for voting guilty there.

good for them, i'm not even feeling a little bit bad about what i did

the goal here wasnt to make you feel bad
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Iconeum is kind of like me with regards to scum hunting, he's not a lazy player, he has a burning desire for scum hunting as town and catching scum. This is just like on the polar opposite here and it feels really contrived.

since this is the only detailed meta on icon ill follow this
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Maybe stretch's a wrong word - it was a read I disagreed with. And again, you're not *necessarily* scum, but I've seen town!Ico pushed for bullshit like that by scum before, so I placed my vote for now. Are you so bothered by it?

also can I please go to bed

pedit: apparently we do lol

-gun

thats an awful basis to form a scumread on someone tbh
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Insomnia and Icon aren’t TvT from my POV.

-TSE

mindmelding is best for hydras

-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'm done defending my actions and 'lack of reasons to lolvote guilty'

If you honestly think town HAS to have a reason to do that, you are just mistaken.

Scum feel a lot more need to explain their actions then town do, so it's weird to me you feel like this.

i dont think theres a single person out there who has played town and hasnt been scrutinized for not explaining their actions
to prevent mislynches on themselves or others usually a townie would come up with a reason for something like this
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: insomnia

you have no interest in sorting me

you just want me lynched

Your last posts are proof of this

-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'm done defending my actions and 'lack of reasons to lolvote guilty'

If you honestly think town HAS to have a reason to do that, you are just mistaken.

Scum feel a lot more need to explain their actions then town do, so it's weird to me you feel like this.

i dont think theres a single person out there who has played town and hasnt been scrutinized for not explaining their actions
to prevent mislynches on themselves or others usually a townie would come up with a reason for something like this
-mm

I don't mind being called out for a lolvote, but I do mind about the conclusions that are being drawn without properly engaging with me

let me put it in simpler terms

you didnt bother sorting minstrel, and wouldve happily let anyone be guiltied on trial and rush the end of day 1
'lolvoting' is an excuse by someone who didnt expect to be pushed for it
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

i really don't get it

1) you think i'm scum because i didn't provide enough reason for my lolvote
2) you agree that scum need reasons, and thus i must be faking not providing reasons?? that's not legit sorting
3) you are forcing me in a corner and then using 'ico is a lot more focused on scumhunting' meta against me while suffocating me

it's not a town approach to my slot

scum needs reasons because town needs reasons
so when someone doesnt provide reasons and hides behind a lolvote thats wolfy as hell

we arent only focused on your lolvote, your piss-poor reaction to pressure is telling as well
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

i really don't get it

1) you think i'm scum because i didn't provide enough reason for my lolvote
2) you agree that scum need reasons, and thus i must be faking not providing reasons?? that's not legit sorting
3) you are forcing me in a corner and then using 'ico is a lot more focused on scumhunting' meta against me while suffocating me

it's not a town approach to my slot

scum needs reasons because town needs reasons
so when someone doesnt provide reasons and hides behind a lolvote thats wolfy as hell

we arent only focused on your lolvote, your piss-poor reaction to pressure is telling as well
-mm

ur wrong

town doesn't need reason

we can argue back and forth about that until the end of time
so im gonna cut it off
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

when was i supposed to be sorting minstrel?

since they were on trial

-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

we arent only focused on your lolvote, your piss-poor reaction to pressure is telling as well

since you are into meta, would it help if I proved to you via past games that my super defensive reaction comes from town!Ico? Would you reconsider?

i cant guarantee it but i will unvote whilst i check that
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

we arent only focused on your lolvote, your piss-poor reaction to pressure is telling as well

since you are into meta, would it help if I proved to you via past games that my super defensive reaction comes from town!Ico? Would you reconsider?

i cant guarantee it but i will unvote whilst i check that
-mm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80583

A mini normal, the fun/relevant stuff starts at around post 1.000

Alisae repped into a slot, and I get into a similar situation here where i feel i'm being pushed unfairly/by scum.

Spicey note tho: it was T/T

okay
ill get into reading that tomorrow (shits late dawg, its 1:37 am)
then if it holds up ill iso you and make a better judgement there
UNVOTE: Iconeum
-mm
night yall

[TrueSoulHustler]

I literally made a YouTube playlist that is just 27 different versions of Africa including covers, remixes and foreign language versions.

locktown tbh

Not unless he has Rucka Rucka Ali’s Version

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

A50 I assume me talking to you will result in exactly nothing but it would be nice if you could do something this game

I did. At least I tried. I told people to go easy with their whispers and I was shat on ..

via whispers

Don't ask me why but I gut townread this lol

I literally made a YouTube playlist that is just 27 different versions of Africa including covers, remixes and foreign language versions.

locktown tbh

Not unless he has Rucka Rucka Ali’s Version

-TSE

did you get around to reading part of that game i linked?

wrong person and no i hadnt
had a busy day
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Sorry lol, I've been having 10 hour shifts at work every day and I'm in four FM games (not this site) and like 3 DM games so my plate is kinda full. Ima try my hardest to do this game tho

fuck and here i was about to pull some meta read on you
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

@vault you don’t think pushing something in bad faith is scum!indicative?

Gun is much more involved in the game than me (also, gun is a she) but I agree with her from what I have read

Last time I ISO’d icon which was yesterday I thought he was NAI to town so far

I don’t think there’s any good reason to scumread him as of this time yesterday and so yes, I think he may be getting shitpushed and the fact that he is a *highly* mislynchable player makes me uncomfortable that he specifically is being pushed

Why do you read icon v insom as TvT?

highly mislynchable doesnt make someone any less scummy so stop with that fake nervousness
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Obvious scum can be town

Vault dweller can be town for now

-rose

dont fling shit expecting it to stick
why do you read them that way
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I've explained thrice how my push has nothing to do with Iconeum "lolvoting". I felt as if he wanted to hide amongst other town because there were loads of "imma guilty" but, again, lolvoting isn't done without something to evaluate off of.

Iconeum came in the thread, had no idea who Minstrel was or what they've done and yet still decided to vote guilty. And the fake bravado afterwards makes no actual sense. He's like "Yeah, I wanted to lynch someone that I have no read on, town do this shit all the time, right?"

Where I feel like Iconeum would NEVER do that. And his recent post with "Town do this shit all the time" made me believe that I was right when assuming he was faking it in order to get town read.

insomnia, there is little to be said about this.

Your entire point is based on the wrong assumption that town!ico would never do x or z.
There's no way for me to defend against that. If you really think you caught me, keep pushing. But ur wrong.

Literally all of it was real, not faked, and all 100% pure town!ico

selfmeta isnt a valid point
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Menalque, for your bloating and you belittling my contribution, I have yet to see you do any analysis that's anything above surface level.

I think your expectations for this game are too damn high

these are standard expectations for any player who plays this game

-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80583

A mini normal, the fun/relevant stuff starts at around post 1.000

Alisae repped into a slot, and I get into a similar situation here where i feel i'm being pushed unfairly/by scum.

Spicey note tho: it was T/T

So if your meta example was TvT, why are you so confident on insomnia flipping scum?

-Hectic

icon idk if u answered this but if you didnt, do so
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Sorry lol, I've been having 10 hour shifts at work every day and I'm in four FM games (not this site) and like 3 DM games so my plate is kinda full. Ima try my hardest to do this game tho

fuck and here i was about to pull some meta read on you
-mm

No no go ahead

something, something, contribution resembles 19e, something, something, youre actually just overworked

[TrueSoulHustler]

(-mm)

[TrueSoulHustler]

@icon, ik im on rn but i cba to read it immediately

----

however dr. ez bake has absolutely horrid contribution and has put forth about 1 post on topic to anything related to this game
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

okay icon in that game you linked me your iso has the same amount of posts as half this game and im a lazy shitter
can you stamp a post where i can start readng
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

yeah i dont see how that resembles yourself here my dude, hell its not even close to similar
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

legit though jackson is probably exe or something this is def not omgus

Yeah defo not a mason

Why mention mason unless your going to claim it.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

LOL okay ill go in detail gimme a minute
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Minstrel Trial?

I love it

the dude is probably guilty as charged until proven otherwise

so GUILTY

wait a minute that Jury slot seems… hmmmmm

oldish account, no recent logins

seeing the bastard and lying elements of this game

like, how can you trust that to be real lol

#paranoiaisreal

not only does the progression here make to sense, right here youre saying how you arent trusting the trial yet youre using 'lolguilty' as a reason? what?
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

no*

[TrueSoulHustler]

And frankly, something that I don't think you as town!Ico would ever come out with.

#Town!Ico never does this

every.single.game.

appeal to ridicule
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

if you actually think this isn't town!ico, you know nothing of me

if you truly believe i won't guilty in a meme game in a meme trial as town, you are mistaken

i've literally written out my honest thoughts as it happened, if you take the wrong conclusion from that so be it

i won't defend my actions there because i regret nothing

@insomn, you realize this game is called 'everything is a lie' right?

same old bad reaction that i droned on about before but why dont i go into more depth
- one post attacking you sparked this amount of paranoia from you
- all 4 posts have completely separate tones, showing how jittery you were making these
- you make a joke out of their push to try to belittle it instead of actually responding properly
i dont see how any of that comes from a town mindset, and i saw none of that in the game you linked me
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: Iconeum

Empty vote, nice -_-

you haven't been reading, have you

Not really

Don't get me wrong, I'm not appreciative of the insomn slot right now, but shading him over an empty vote while there's a ton of content going on is... odd

dont get me wrong, i dont have a proper read of the virgo slot right now, but shading her over that reaction while they were obviously a bit behind is... odd

[TrueSoulHustler]

Minstrel Trial?

I love it

the dude is probably guilty as charged until proven otherwise

so GUILTY

HYPE

wait a minute that Jury slot seems… hmmmmm

misuse on my part of the word 'slot', which should be 'account'. An unfortunate instance.

This is me checking out Jury account as linked by Korina

oldish account, no recent logins

seeing the bastard and lying elements of this game

like, how can you trust that to be real lol

Me explaining why I thought that account and thus trial wasn't legit

#paranoiaisreal

not only does the progression here make to sense, right here youre saying how you arent trusting the trial yet youre using 'lolguilty' as a reason? what?
-mm

Like, you even quoted it as it happened. I'll bold it under each post

Further down in my iso from there, you'll see I vote after Korina confirms it's all reaL

well bugger all if this was because of a simple typo
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

"Icon played the game. Town"

a lot of players who know me better and regularly play with me will tell you that they can get the best read on my through tone and intent.

Rarely from being an actually pro-town player

I have my good games sometimes tho

the defense you can muster is a not at all backed up "town dont need reasons," A completely wrong selfmeta argument, and "im not protown, thats just who i am" (<- you certainly were in the game you linked me)
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

you complain about being backed in a corner but thats the best way to judge a players alignment sans cop
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: Iconeum
loggin off
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Chemist
What’s your read on me?
Go in depths please.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

quick skim says mm posting is mostly genuine tbh

no read on the TSE head because I'm not that good at reading him tbh

If your not sure on me, why are you still voting me?
Or did I read the vote count wrong?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Why am I so difficult for people to read SMH.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

@JacksonVirgo
I’ve played enough with you I suppose you know my Meta by now.
Explain to Chemist how to read me. (Meta!Mafia, Meta!Town)

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

So we have a confirmed mafia blackmailer in this game. Nice.
And Mafia is strong enough to the point that Town needed to have a Spy. Nice.
VOTE: Icon Nice.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: gun&rose
im sure my other half is fine with this
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Insomnia's role is DOBE. Why did that wanker have to request a replace out?

This post right here catch’s my eye.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Lol Chemist is forced to say TBH at the end of every sentence lol.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Lol Chemist is forced to say TBH at the end of every sentence lol.

-TSE

it’s my new typing quirk tbh

starts saying it in real life
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

This is good IRL

@TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

It’s all about IRL

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Nothing of worth me, Ima head out

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

JV and Peacock probably town.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

ya i disappeared for mad long and i cba to catchup
waddup
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I know I haven't been active and I know my words mean shit all because of it but from what I remember of MM, their Town meta is nothing like this game. I can't ISO dive right now but I will as soon as I can.
VOTE: TrueSoulHustler

No we’re Town Jackson.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I haven’t been paying much attention to this game TBH.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

virgo is my activity the thing thats pinging u lul
ive been fairly busy wit school chill, also forgot about this game
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

selfmeta bad ik but the only thing that can be compared between my two metas is when im scum im opportunistic, ill jump on anything to benefit myself
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: 50 judge

it just feels like the right thing to do

Smacking you in the face.

Feels like the right thing to do!

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

someone ask me questions so i can keep up pls
busy life, dont wanna drop a hydra
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

someone ask me questions so i can keep up pls
busy life, dont wanna drop a hydra
-mm

Nothings really happening RN TBH.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

im gonna wipe a clean slate to catch up on day 2
far too behind so ima wait it out and let tse take ahold of the reigns
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

im still happy with a gr hang with my old knowledge
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Dab.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Jackson what’s your role?

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Jackson what’s your role?

Why do I need to claim?

You're gladiated and I'm drunk.

Well, the second one is probably true.

Me and Jackson are Masons though. And literally confirmed not to be Mafia. The Fonz and Korina were/are also in our group.

Then why was Jackson Untargetable last night?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

That or you're vanilla or have a simple modifier.

WDYM by this?

[TrueSoulHustler]

That or you're vanilla or have a simple modifier.

WDYM by this?

I have a modifier that disallows me from visiting people that are Vanilla or have the 'Simple' modifier and they cannot target me in return.

Ah ok yeah that makes sense.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: Player 1

*Dab*

[TrueSoulHustler]

This games so broken.
Player 1 can be voted on.
He’s gotta be scum.
I don’t even see his name in the playerlist.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

what part of gladiate do you clowns not understand tbh

GKYS.

[TrueSoulHustler]

welp someone killed my neighbour this is so sad.

YOU did. You're a VIG, not a Neighborizer.. I think.

I am not supposed to find this funny, but damn hahaha

Town.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Ok time to hard Claim!

I’m this -) https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Of_Its_Ass

[TrueSoulHustler]

Sooooo, it's between Rauth and Chemist hmmmm
The WIFOM of gladiating someone is killing me rn

VOTE: Chemist

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Korina

Want me to switch to my account since my Hydra partner isn’t playing anymore?

[TrueSoulHustler]

Unless of course he wants to play.
But he hasn’t done anything in this game and told me he doesn’t want to do a large game.
So like.
Unless he wants to just come here once in a blue moon I think he might want to just disband.
And let me
Run this slot solo.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Oh wait...

VOTE: VaultDweller
Day 1 when PeaHen pushed me for voting VaultDweller I wondered if PeaHen was scum defending an 'inno' partner. That's a lot more likely now that I know PeaHen was Mafia. (To be fair, it could also just be PeaHen trying to push an easy mislynch on me for voting an IC.)

VOTE: VaultDweller

Hello Stranger!

[TrueSoulHustler]

We meet again!

[TrueSoulHustler]

Well, that's a bit awkward.

I'm going to go ahead and claim something now.

I got recruited to the Jury last night. Technically while I was dead, actually. ObviousScum is in there and we were having a conversation about the reasons ObviousScum is probably Mafia. Which I'm probably going to have to put back as probably Mafia because I realized that Korina, is, in fact, probably a troll in regards to that.
I'll say that Korina is also in there, and that I think most of the other members are town, or at the very least not overtly scum.

@Jake The Wolfie
I'm 100% sure it's on my role-card. I'm fairly certain it's true as well, as that would simplify NAR issues dealing with redirection and make Korina's life easier, which I fully expect Korina would do considering the scale of this game.

I'm just concerned about this plan that you have.

I presume your in the jury too right?

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'm starting to wonder if this game is an eternal wheel of torture Korina devised for us. In quest for creating misery and hatred in the world.

- Norwee

Yeah you guys do that tbh

Did you get revived?

[TrueSoulHustler]

also i got jackson to join my neigbourhood.

Invite me tonight!
We shall be the TOS Team!

[TrueSoulHustler]

Chemist1422 has been resurrected as a treestump, due to being lovers with Rautherdir. This did not happen at daystart, because Chemist1422 has already won, but they asked about it, so it shall be done.

zeebu

is also whispering to

Rautherdir

.

Rautherdir

is also whispering to

zeebu

.
OP update soon.

HA!
Enjoy the game Chemist!
This will be a wild ride!

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Chemist
Are you still required to say “TBH”?
Lol.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Don't know and don't care tbh

I'm just doing it because it's fun tbh

That’s true.
It is isn’t it? tbh.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Is it fun?
Yeah it is tbh.

[TrueSoulHustler]

I think Poly is Town tbh.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Ninja would bypass Spy.
So it’s safe to assume mafia could have a Ninja role.
Also remember this is a game of lies.
You don’t know what’s right and what’s wrong.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Chk is prob secret neutral tree stump.
Let’s me honest.

[TrueSoulHustler]

I don't plan on playing but (full disclosure) my presence serves a very very particular function for one sole player in the game that is neither mafia, nor cult, nor jester, etc. My function is to assist them and that's literally all I plan to do. The fact that I've said anything here at all is an olive branch. Don't waste your time with me.

this is so epic

IKR.

[TrueSoulHustler]

I don't plan on playing but (full disclosure) my presence serves a very very particular function for one sole player in the game that is neither mafia, nor cult, nor jester, etc. My function is to assist them and that's literally all I plan to do. The fact that I've said anything here at all is an olive branch. Don't waste your time with me.

Chk is prob secret neutral tree stump.
Let’s me honest.

What’s your point there?

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: 50 Judge Power

OMGUS

-TL

OH BABY!
I Wanna sheep this but I like to sheep Jackson more.

[TrueSoulHustler]

I feel like being a Black Sheep this game.

:3

[TrueSoulHustler]

I haven't seen any questions besides one so I am voting for the one proposed question:

VOTE: How many anti-town factions still have a player alive?

-TL

5

[TrueSoulHustler]

We have 3 Neutrals, 2 Mafia and 1 Cult left.

;p

[TrueSoulHustler]

Dingle.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Should I make a claim here or is a roleclaim too soon?

-TL

No claim as you will be instantly lynched if people guilty you.

I’m abstaining because RN I’m not directly scum nor town reading you.
I feel like you and Judge could be TVS but I’m not 100% positive on it.

[TrueSoulHustler]

50JP is whispering to chkflip

Ok yeah 50JP is Town.

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Rauther
So do you think TL is Inno or Guilty?

I’m abstaining but I think J50 is Town with that’s Chikflip whisper.

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Rau
Other then you and Jackson.
Who’s Town Confirmed?

[TrueSoulHustler]

That is... 14 modifiers too many. I'm not gonna understand anything mechanics related this game, am I?

Titus, Rau, and Misty; could you each give me your top scumread and I'll go ISO them.

-Hectic

I'm getting very worried about there possibly being no Mafia left, and thus looking for the wrong team. Not sure I want to commit to hunting cult yet though, or how much stock I should put into Korina's statement earlier today. Maybe we could vote my question on how many anti-town factions are remaining through? That might help narrow this down.

Has any third party died other then Chemist?

[TrueSoulHustler]

I sent it to Drafts... I am an idiot

Do you still think Titus is scum here though?

[TrueSoulHustler]

Candy is Fun!

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: VD

[TrueSoulHustler]

Marble

[TrueSoulHustler]

Why am I not dead yet?

“Magic”

[TrueSoulHustler]

This game died. chk wins gg.

Congratulations!
WP!