White Flag - TM2020

[Formerfish]

I guess hes my dann to your huckleberry.

[Formerfish]

Auro doesn't want to kill me tonight so he keeps me in this "I don't trust Molla" zone

If cheeky is the UT and is dying tonight shading you now would make it easier to pivot to you tomorrow if he needed to.

[Formerfish]

I REALLY think it's Auro/Dong atm

If you're 100% sure, lynch, and let me dictate the lynch tomorrow.

Wait a second. Has dong not been hammered? I'm very confused right now.

[Formerfish]

I REALLY think it's Auro/Dong atm[8/quote]
If you're 100% sure, lynch, and let me dictate the lynch tomorrow.

Wait a second. Has dong not been hammered? I'm very confused right now.

It was a fake out. Dong is at L-1.

So many fake hammers so little time.

Bro. I've been super poor for a while now. I came into some money and bought a fat sack. It smoking myself back to kindergarten right now.

[Formerfish]

Alright. Guys. Im going to level with you. I can't keep this inside any longer

Spoiler:

When I found out that Joji was Filthy Frank I shit myself.

I feel so much better. In so many ways. Thanks for putting up with me guys. And I'm sorry if anyone feels differently.

[Formerfish]

I'll fully admit the Hopkirk mislynch was my fault

why do you think I'm scummy Cheeky

No, thats my sword to fall on.

[Formerfish]

Why'd you wait for Gob to pop in, say he'll be here later to answer you calls and then vote him?

[Formerfish]

That answers half of the question, why wait if you thought that?

[Formerfish]

[Formerfish]

FF talk to me about Auro if Dann flips town.

I would have to see what happens over night, and then take a look at a few things when the dust settles, but i think auro has a higher chance of being scum with the poe if dann dies today.

[Formerfish]

You wouldn't lynch auro in lylo right?

If dann flips town and the game keeps going then i wouldnt instavote anyone. I would talk to people and try to figure this out, just like i tried to do in your game, only thing is Jingle fucked us by townfirming PP when he shouldnt have and that made my PoE in that lylo hectic, and I still held off to see if i was wrong there.

[Formerfish]

Like who is Auros partner even if Dann is town? Everyone wants to lynch him.

I dont really play like that most of the time. I see the game as a puzzle where we have our own pieces and we get a better look at the whole when more info comes out. If my reads are wrong then ill figure out why the picture doesnt make sense and ill turn it around and figure out i was looking at it backwards. With each flip the noose narrows on scum and they are bound to know that. I really hit my stride in endgames like this, look at dance masqurade and the lylo game i had with Jingle and Creature. I have a mild amount of confidence ill be able to figure it out tomorrow if i have to.

[Formerfish]

Scouts honor I will not place a vote down on anyone in lylo without talking to everyone that day.

[Formerfish]

if someone hadn't QUICK HAMMERED dgfdgdrgdrhfhrtyhjcy

like my biggest fear is that FF is scum and just gonna get away with that

because that's actually a good play for scum him to pull

I appreciate you think my response to that is within my scum range, but that type of honest reaction only comes from town me.

[Formerfish]

Dann, im not "not playing" im not participating in the logical circle jerk thats been going on the last few pages. It has done nothing worth while and with my earlier paranoia i decided that being around yours was enough for me.

[Formerfish]

Gobs is a bad lynch today, if there is a tomorrow he can totally be on the table.

[Formerfish]

...?

[Formerfish]

Cause I dont think hes scum. Its thats simple for me.

[Formerfish]

Yes. I have said so many times this game. I outed the a previously hidden head of a hydra to show where my knowledge of Gobs play comes from and why it makes him town to me. Check out Mordhaus.

BB.

For me scum is in Dann> Auro>> Dong>>> it gets less likely after that.

[Formerfish]

Posting more only gives scum info at this point. I have said my piece and if they choose to give me the sweet release of death then you can iso me and find my words. If im alive then im here to speak more to them and move towards a win tomorrow.

[Formerfish]

I did explain my meta read on Gob, i outed Mordhaus to show the many games weve played recently where his play has been the exact same as here and why i thought that meant he is town. What are you on about Auro?

[Formerfish]

Dannflor
BBMolla
Formerfish
CheekyTeeky
Auro
Dongempire
gobbledygook

To lynch Dann we need 4, CT and I are there already, Dann isn't going to vote there, BB and Auro have stopped fighting the lynch, but won't vote there, and I dont remember what Dong or Gob have said about Dann recently.

[Formerfish]

Omg I just realised scum tried to frame me with the Dunn kill.

How so?

[Formerfish]

Sigh. I'm legit scared we're game throwing if gobbles flips town.

Why are you being selective of the trs your trs have that youre willing to sheep?

[Formerfish]

Dong, will you vote Dann?

[Formerfish]

My read on Gob.

[Formerfish]

I don't know your alignment FF as much as I want to townread you.

I get that. Why are you willing to trust reads on certain people then?

[Formerfish]

I don't get what you're asking? I've seen Dunn, Cephrir, Hop, kitty all townread BB I'm kind of weirded out that I can't see what any of them were seeing hence my distrust of my own read of BB.

Oh, i thought you were selectively listening to live people cause ive been saying BB is town too.

I posted right before you switched your read. I saw your post and didnt want the thread to go down that way. I agreed with where you were going before.

[Formerfish]

I also finished listing my records and put them in sleeves and finished working for the night and had more time to post.

[Formerfish]

I legitimately want to know who you guys vote in lylo if Dong is town and I get NK'd

Thats getting dangerously close to fishing of sorts cheeky.

All you can really get from us is the agreement that we wont rush into anything, which youve gotten from gob, dong, myself and others

[Formerfish]

I legitimately want to know who you guys vote in lylo if Dong is town and I get NK'd

Thats getting dangerously close to fishing of sorts cheeky.

All you can really get from us is the agreement that we wont rush into anything, which youve gotten from gob, dong, myself and others

What are you implying? That I'm scum fishing? Why is it bad to figure out where I feel safest trusting my vote today.

I'm just saying that if we give scum a road map with all the potential traps laid out in bold print on the map we can't very well expect scum to fall into any of those traps when they know where they are, what sets them off and how to diffuse them.

The only thing we have to our advantage now is the ability to hold our cards close to our chest. We need scum to worry about who they need to kill tonight to endgame successfully.

Then again this could l be a moot point and we just end things today.

[Formerfish]

Formerfish you were in Mordhaus?

Yes. Jingle and fish are a formidable adversary.

[Formerfish]

Ahahaha so you can NK Cheeky and we're at the same spot tomorrow with one less town vote? Sure pal.

Strange this sounds like why I didn't want to let scum know exactly where our heads were at going into a possible next phase.

[Formerfish]

Cheeky what exactly are you asking? Why my reads have been erratic? Why it's taken me so long to get things right?

I don't mind indulging your paranoia, but can you be a bit more concise?

[Formerfish]

Utility of reads to town is much more than it is to scum, who already have information of who's town

Goddammit auro I'm not saying what you're trying to make it seem like I am.

There is a difference between using a GPS and having your dad tell you the directions verbally using landmarks.

[Formerfish]

I've already fought with my real ex tonight, don't feel like fighting with a fake one.

[Formerfish]

Gob has been playing like shit, yet he's still around. He has a knack for sticking around in games because he's low hanging fruit. ScumGob doesn't stand on a chair day 1 and scream "LOOK AY MY SCUM PARTNER REALLY HARD IF THEY LURK CAUSE THAY MEANS THEY ARE SCUM. DONT THINK ABOUT HOW SOME PEOPLE ARE POINTING OUT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NSGS PLAN TO BEGIN WITH!"

His play comes off as bad town. Which if you listen to the some of the other players I should be able to recognize easily.

I don't love a dong lynch but if I'm wrong and the game ends then you can rub it in my face, or we go on to lynch correctly and win tomorrow, so it's just a matter of time and sanity.

[Formerfish]

Why didn't you think that about gobbles Day 2 or Day 3?

Day 2 I was fighting off the continued attempts to mislynch me and then i fucked day 3 up by oopshammering.

[Formerfish]

VOTE: Dong

I think hes town, and that scum is auro/Dann, but guess I don't get much away my way when I've played like shit myself.

[Formerfish]

VOTE: FF this is the optimal lynch today both in terms of teams and scum equity.

Yawn.

[Formerfish]

Like you'd rather fucking DONG go to LYLO than you Auro????????????

He would also have rathered a lurking scum NSG to me on day 1.

[Formerfish]

I have had the chance to hammer Dong I have the chance to get gobbles lynched and yet I'm scum. Who the eff am I scum with?

VOTE: BB

This is not something I will follow. Lynch pool today is Auro, Dann, Dong.

I forgot i conftowned you for not hammering me at some point, start acting like conftown.

[Formerfish]

He PoE'd everyone but you but wants to confer with his team for his "next move"...

yes

because

I have townreads on everyone

so my reads are wrong

lmfao

This doesnt read right to me. This reads like BB not taking a real stand in sring anyone because we are all town to him and the game doesnt make sense.

[Formerfish]

Sorry, that was a half thought I forgot to finish.

I think it would be very easy for scum to not stand against anyone on their own, and only push other peoples reads. Then to have to go to your teammates not playing the game to get a read change seems very opportunistic, like he has no reads now, but could easily come in here and say "So and so reads X as scum and says I should vote there, guess I will." And leaves him squeaky clean if a mislynch happens because "They weren't his reads."

[Formerfish]

VOTE: BB

Maybe this game doesnt make sense on purpose.