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Voting randomly and mislynching gets us to lylo for two days and we won't have info, just because Hectic gave an answer from a town pov does not make him town especially when you look at the bigger picture. VOTE: Hectic
In post 107, dsjstr wrote:Voting randomly and mislynching gets us to lylo for two days and we won't have info, just because Hectic gave an answer from a town pov does not make him town especially when you look at the bigger picture. VOTE: Hectic
Why do you think Egix is a mislynch?
I don't know if he is but your strategy would lead to a mislynch, and I didn't really see Egix getting lynched in this situation.
how do you feel about lynching egix instead of hectic today?
Egix has been more interactive with people this game, I'll have to go back and look at our Newbie game but this doesn't look like the scum!Egix I remember
how do you feel about lynching egix instead of hectic today?
Egix has been more interactive with people this game, I'll have to go back and look at our Newbie game but this doesn't look like the scum!Egix I remember
Why did you say that then?
In post 113, dsjstr wrote:and I didn't really see Egix getting lynched in this situation.
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And honestly, I’m kinda surprised you’d be able to read him that soon after day start... He didn’t post a lot
What are the meta differences you’re taking about?
Mafia are outsiders, and in the scum!Egix game he didn't talk to people the way that he has this game. As a town member wouldn't it makes sense for someone to be more interactive with their own members. People won't do this on purpose obviously,
which is why I feel that he has subconsciously been more open because of his role.
Which part? The fact that I didn't want Egix lynched? The fact that I thought your strat would lead to a mislynch? If Hectic is scum then he would be mislynching someone and it happened to be Egix. Anyone else who was not on the wagon and had a chance to lynch Egix would you have? I don't see what this is trying to get at?
I've been trying to use the VC's as a way to calculate the scum team and there could be a reason why Hectic never had a wagon like Egix and myself. Ejj how is my read progression worse then Hectics?
Also would it make more sense to not have the IC's vote. It would allow for players who are coasting to have to choose a side. We only need 2/3 and we don't need to sort the IC's.
In post 267, dsjstr wrote:I've been trying to use the VC's as a way to calculate the scum team and there could be a reason why Hectic never had a wagon like Egix and myself. Ejj how is my read progression worse then Hectics?
Didn't a wagon briefly form on Hect after he fake-hammered me?
I have been town reading Egix for a while now, that was the original reason why a wagon was formed on me. I also see hectic as a town which is how I came to the conclusion of who the three mafia are.
In post 292, Hectic wrote:Idk, thinking about teams with all this potential bussing is hard; never been good at pre flip associations. I think the right play in this format is to have all of us interact with a guiding hand from the ICs, and then let the ICs pick the lynch EoD.
In post 289, Hectic wrote:The Egix wagon consisting of 2 ICs and no one else is a pretty good sign of Egix being scum, I think. Find it hard to believe scum wouldn't take advantage of a townie being voted by both ICs like that. VOTE: Egix
Looker improved. New solve is Egix+Doro+Chemist
If Looker is scum, Espeonage is probably also scum.
In post 277, dsjstr wrote:I have been town reading Egix for a while now, that was the original reason why a wagon was formed on me. I also see hectic as a town which is how I came to the conclusion of who the three mafia are.
Oh! So you still are town-reading hectic after all!
Hahaha
In post 228, Looker wrote:They're mostly based off of how you guys treat each other. It's D1, though, so they're boldly bullshit. I should be more interested than I am.
VOTE: Looker
Don't be discouraged. Got any examples for us?
I originally saw this vote as trying to get more info to solve, but now I am starting to realize that he could have just been placing a vote on Looker to say that he had started a wagon on him. To me it looks like he doesn't want to be able to be read, he has been jumping from wagon to wagon. Egix will be lynched if the VC stays the way it is. Ejj do you think that chem is trying to solve the game. It looks like the wagons are pointed in a direction that is favorable to them so they didn't have to solve. Then when a wagon gets formed on Looker he makes a comment to try and weaken the attack on Looker. I would much rather lynch Looker/Chem and I am curious if anyone else is okay with lynching chem.
If I was mafia and claimed that Egix was town wouldn't that mean that we are both mafia and I am throwing the game? I didn't want to bring up this fact but we have less than a day and there is no mislynching
I understand your tunneling but think about the situation from my pov, if you think the same then everyone will have to believe you because you are conftown
I have a high suspicion that Egix is town, I have had that since the beginning. You can lynch me but don't adjust your reads because of my role, the people who are not conf town should be making these calls. What do we learn from this.
In post 322, dsjstr wrote:We have less then a day and no chance of a NL so if you want me lynched then vote me
Well, I already did...
And it’s still cool, I think. There isn’t a lot of time left but it also doesn’t take a lot of people to change wagons.
So again, just chill and answer the questions if you have a bit of time
I think I have answered my Hectic read to the best of my ability and the reason why I am suggesting a chem lynch is because I am starting to question my early egix read, but looker would be just as good.
In post 300, dsjstr wrote:
I originally saw this vote as trying to get more info to solve, but now I am starting to realize that he could have just been placing a vote on Looker to say that he had started a wagon on him. To me it looks like he doesn't want to be able to be read, he has been jumping from wagon to wagon. Egix will be lynched if the VC stays the way it is. Ejj do you think that chem is trying to solve the game. It looks like the wagons are pointed in a direction that is favorable to them so they didn't have to solve. Then when a wagon gets formed on Looker he makes a comment to try and weaken the attack on Looker. I would much rather lynch Looker/Chem and I am curious if anyone else is okay with lynching chem.
...I don’t want to be an ass and I realize that I might be sort of tunneling you but I genuinely don’t understand your thought process.
The wagon on chem makes him be able to chill? Yes but the same goes for everyone except for you and egix
Since when has this been scum-indicative???
And since when has chemist genuinely cared about his town-games? It does happen from time to time in games with short phases but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was his town meta on forums like MS.
No, I won’t switch wagons just because he’s inactive.
In post 300, dsjstr wrote:It looks like the wagons are pointed in a direction that is favorable to them so they didn't have to solve. Then when a wagon gets formed on Looker he makes a comment to try and weaken the attack on Looker. I would much rather lynch Looker/Chem and I am curious if anyone else is okay with lynching chem.
You’re trying to say that looker and chemist are teammates because looker said sth good about him, right? Firstly, when did that happen?
And secondly, considering how passive looker is in general I find it funny how you managed to notice and then confidently scum-read 2 inactive players just based on that.
Lemme phrase it that way. I disagree with your reads. The way you talk about them makes me feel as if you had a certain result set in mind before reading the thread and are just describing it now while looking only for interactions that fit your theory. You phrase the posts in a way that makes sense on the surface but has no like, real analysis behind it in reality.
It feels as if you’re trying to lead instead of trying to solve, if that makes sense.
And I do not appreciate ONLY pushing people I town-read or at least don’t scum-read.
Mafia does not have to do anything if the wagons are at a place that is beneficial to them, trying to get the wagons switched would only hurt them. They can wait until D2 and try and cover up their D1 play which shouldn't be hard.
In post 277, dsjstr wrote:I have been town reading Egix for a while now, that was the original reason why a wagon was formed on me. I also see hectic as a town which is how I came to the conclusion of who the three mafia are.
Yeah, explain the reason for this townread basically.
With so many people jumping on the Egix wagon I didn't think he would be mafia considering the fact that it only take two of them getting lynched to lose the game.
In post 381, Hectic wrote:Well, yeah. He called him a mislynch when I was pushing him, and then didn't give reasons for why when questioned on that by Nami/I.
In a game with a small player pool and 3 mafia you didn't find it suspicious that so many people were willing to join a wagon that quickly
Chem and Looker followed each other and only moved from Egix to me. Wimpy was never on the wagon and Hectic kept jumping around. My guess for the real scum team is Chem/Espeonage because I am assuming that the last two mafia would not have wanted to be associated with each other.