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Post Post #4750 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:47 pm

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So who are you lynching today?
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Post Post #4751 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:52 pm

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In post 4747, Formerfish wrote:Cheeky what exactly are you asking? Why my reads have been erratic? Why it's taken me so long to get things right?

I don't mind indulging your paranoia, but can you be a bit more concise?
I need you to talk about how you consistently had gobbles in your bottom 3 and how you're now super sure he's town.

I also find it amusing that you had me as locktown D2 because I didnt hammer you when you had the chance and yet you snap vote me today.

You've spent a lot of the game placating people you're scumreading and going with consensus.

Are you going to vote Dong if I'm not voting Dann?
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Post Post #4752 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:02 pm

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Gob has been playing like shit, yet he's still around. He has a knack for sticking around in games because he's low hanging fruit. ScumGob doesn't stand on a chair day 1 and scream "LOOK AY MY SCUM PARTNER REALLY HARD IF THEY LURK CAUSE THAY MEANS THEY ARE SCUM. DONT THINK ABOUT HOW SOME PEOPLE ARE POINTING OUT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN NSGS PLAN TO BEGIN WITH!"

His play comes off as bad town. Which if you listen to the some of the other players I should be able to recognize easily.

I don't love a dong lynch but if I'm wrong and the game ends then you can rub it in my face, or we go on to lynch correctly and win tomorrow, so it's just a matter of time and sanity.
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Post Post #4753 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:11 pm

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Why didn't you think that about gobbles Day 2 or Day 3?
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Post Post #4754 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:13 pm

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In post 4752, Formerfish wrote:He has a knack for sticking around in games because he's low hanging fruit.
Gobbles has literally argued the opposite, that he's always mislynched.
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Post Post #4755 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:13 pm

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Gobbles what do you make of FF's read progression on you?
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Post Post #4756 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:16 pm

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In post 4753, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why didn't you think that about gobbles Day 2 or Day 3?
Day 2 I was fighting off the continued attempts to mislynch me and then i fucked day 3 up by oopshammering.
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Post Post #4757 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:33 pm

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Noone was trying to lynch you D2, in fact you confused a lot of people when you accused them of trying to mislynch you when you weren't even being run up.
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Post Post #4758 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:37 pm

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You didn't make an ounce of sense all D2 and kept writing it off due to being wasted. Then you went vla and since returning you haven't really done anything except vote opportunistically. You've voted me, Dong, Auro, Dann. I don't even think gobbles is your buddy, I think gobbles is just town you keep switching your read on to suit the game. You need gobbles and Dong to ensure success in lylo hence why you prefer the lynch in Auro/Dann.
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Post Post #4759 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:42 pm

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VOTE: Dong

I think hes town, and that scum is auro/Dann, but guess I don't get much away my way when I've played like shit myself.
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Post Post #4760 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:49 pm

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VOTE: FF this is the optimal lynch today both in terms of teams and scum equity.
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Post Post #4761 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:57 pm

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FF's play makes sense from the perspective of him being high and being tunnelled on us - his votes on you didn't seem opportunistic, more like he got emotional about perceived hypocrisy in your play.
There's also loose evidence for FF!town and this is overweighed by Gobs/Molla's scum equities.
I think his Dong vote actually rules out a Dong-FF team, which means Dong has no partners.
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Post Post #4762 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:06 pm

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Gobbles is not scum Auro. His case on Dong was nuanced enough.
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Post Post #4763 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:08 pm

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Dude, building a case that looks nuanced is easy. Gobbles is competent enough to do that much. He also had help from teammates.
His reads aren't nuanced at all from a big picture level.
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Post Post #4764 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:08 pm

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In post 4760, CheekyTeeky wrote:VOTE: FF this is the optimal lynch today both in terms of teams and scum equity.
Yawn.
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Post Post #4765 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:09 pm

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Can you guys decide if gobbles is good or bad? I keep hearing both.
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Post Post #4766 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:10 pm

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Dann and I have both reached the conclusion that Gobbles bad. I don't see that position changing.
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Post Post #4767 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:13 pm

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Ok now can you untunnel yourself for a second a tell me why you're the only one who thinks Gobbles is scum? The biggest thing is the Cephrir kill which was made by a competent scum player. Usually you or Dann would have replaced that slot. If gobbles was scum he would have killed you or Dann then rather than risk us banding together to lynch him.
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Post Post #4768 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:18 pm

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The Cephrir kill makes a lot more sense coming from either FF/bb when they see that you/dann/me/gobbles/dong are all lynching each other.
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Post Post #4769 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:20 pm

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Okay.
Cephrir was obvtown and thus not a lynch scum could push. Plus, he was sheeping Dann (or) me.
You, Dann and I were all legitimate pushes at the beginning of the day.

Of course a Molla/Gob team would lynch Ceph, who else could they?
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Post Post #4770 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:21 pm

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The Ceph kill makes sense in almost any universe where Dann is town, which he is.
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Post Post #4771 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:35 pm

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Sigh. You're signing your death warrant Auro.
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Post Post #4772 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:37 pm

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VOTE: gobbles Dong doesn't vote themselves so. Auro I really hope you're right.
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Post Post #4773 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:39 pm

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UNVOTE: I'll actually let this tick out.
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Post Post #4774 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:40 pm

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In post 4771, CheekyTeeky wrote:Sigh. You're signing your death warrant Auro.
I'm confident enough that I'll take this chance?
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