Open 771: Pollock's Flag [endgame!]

[TrueSoulHustler]

First!
-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Let’s start off with 3 names we’d be willing to vote.
Since there’s 1 Mafia where if we lynch them we auto win.
I’ll start. Rb, Rooroo and Cat Scratch Fever.

Lol I just took the 4th players.
But I’ll go ahead and make some real ones when everyone’s checked in and gave enough content.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: TrueSoulHustler

OMGUS

Try Harding is the new meme.
VOTE: Creature

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Hoi!!!1!! Im Tem!!!

Hoo want to frind Temm??? I loev forevre adn evre!!!!

I shall bee your frind! :3

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

RUSH!

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

There're hydras here? Like, real ones?

ya we got permission from yuri
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Hoi!!!1!! Im Tem!!!

Hoo want to frind Temm??? I loev forevre adn evre!!!!

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

wait

there's hydras in this game

Yes, but I'm not a hydra to be clear

TrueSoulHustler is the only hydra in this game

He’s my partner in crime.
If yos mafia, yos better watch out!

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Me and MM will be watching yos, yos pesky Kitten!

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

wolfy
-csf

null
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[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: Creature

Do you normally vote someone in your first post?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

So I see we're still in RVS.

{Creature | Amrun | Uncrowned} - the cool kids table
{rooroo | AaronFrost | rb} - the kids who take band table
{Pink Ball | Cat Scratch Fever} - Regina George's table
{Blatant Scum | Hectic | TrueSoulHustler} - the buffet table oink

Do you think the scum is within these categories.
As in 1 from each row leaving out one row as there is 3 mafia and not 4.
?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

In case I didn’t explain myself properly as I have poor communication skills and MM has good communication (one of the reasons I Hydra with them) I’m now going to give you an example of what I mean.

So do you believe the scum team could be like, Amrun, PinkBall and Hectic.
But never rooroo, AaronFrost and Rb?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

In case I didn’t explain myself properly as I have poor communication skills and MM has good communication (one of the reasons I Hydra with them) I’m now going to give you an example of what I mean.

So do you believe the scum team could be like, Amrun, PinkBall and Hectic.
But never rooroo, AaronFrost and Rb?

-TSE

its just a joke lel
thats why they catergorised it like that
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[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

wolfy
-csf

null
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Why is 16 a townie post?

genuineness
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Tomorrow i'll post my reads.

good luck with that
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

wolfy
-csf

The
-(name)
Is what Hydra is saying what LMAO.
Do you Not know this?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Cat Scratch Fever is a secret admirer of flags. Last night, I saw her attending a Flag Festival. Sure, I was at the festival too, but I was only there for

research

purposes. Meanwhile, I spotted her exclusively hugging

greyscale

flags.

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

I even got my picture taken

Hot Take.
This is scum theatre.
And CSF and Hectic are scum buddies.

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

wolfy
-csf

null
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Lol
-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Wait, is Nancy in the game or was I disappointed?

Yep. Nancy and T-bone are my mafia teammates.

We already discussed this, you promised not to bus me.

T-Bone otoh is of course fine.

I don't read scum PT.
Hectic can confirm that.

So have you rolled scum with them Before?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

TSE, why was your first thought that Looker was putting one scum in each of those categories, save for one? What gave you that impression?

Because I thought they wanted to narrow down whom to lynch.
I was confused what it was and that looked like something I’d do so I figured Looker would do the same.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

So I see we're still in RVS.

{Creature | Amrun | Uncrowned} - the cool kids table
{rooroo | AaronFrost | rb} - the kids who take band table
{Pink Ball | Cat Scratch Fever} - Regina George's table
{Blatant Scum | Hectic | TrueSoulHustler} - the buffet table oink

Are you calling me a mean cat?

That’s more cute then mean.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

genuineness
-mm

Genuine how? Tone?

I can’t directly speak for MM
But I think maybe because looker would rather wait for people to do conversation before voting or jumping on someone?
Which can technically be appointed as Townie.
Me personally, would call it Null.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Why do you think that interaction between me and Hectic is SvS, TSE?

I’m saying it’d be funny if it was.
Because how he lined it up for the image you gave.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Cat Scratch Fever is a secret admirer of flags. Last night, I saw her attending a Flag Festival. Sure, I was at the festival too, but I was only there for

research

purposes. Meanwhile, I spotted her exclusively hugging

greyscale

flags.

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

I even got my picture taken

Hot Take.
This is scum theatre.
And CSF and Hectic are scum buddies.

Why do you think that interaction between me and Hectic is SvS, TSE?

I’m saying it’d be funny if it was.
Because how he lined it up for the image you gave.

-TSE

i don't really get how these two follow from one another

I didn’t catch the “Grey” part but it still looks like possible theatre.
Although for now, I’ll ignore it.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

wolfy
-csf

null
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Why is 16 a townie post?

genuineness
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I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

You thino that joking, then voting is scummy?

wat

[TrueSoulHustler]

genuineness
-mm

Genuine how? Tone?

yes
it also seems like a genuine town thought

[TrueSoulHustler]

(-mm) x2

[TrueSoulHustler]

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

da wolf hath been caught

[TrueSoulHustler]

Well what the hell.
Why not.
Clidd can be IC.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Also what’s the case on my slot again?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

TSE, why was your first thought that Looker was putting one scum in each of those categories, save for one? What gave you that impression?

Because I thought they wanted to narrow down whom to lynch.
I was confused what it was and that looked like something I’d do so I figured Looker would do the same.

-TSE

this early in the game? how would Looker categorise people that hadn't even posted yet? ya know?

Mind answering this, TSE?

It’s not hard to suggest something like this.
I understand maybe your not liking the fact of me thinking of that I believed it to be someone’s form of PoE.
But is it Scummy that I took the brackets to have a literal meaning?
I didn’t feel as it was random.
As now I can see it was but I thought it was there like “ima make brackets and see how I do”
Kinda thing.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Well what the hell.
Why not.
Clidd can be IC.

-TSE

Also, why does that make clidd an IC?

From his previous posts.
It makes him above rand town.
Which I’m calling an IC for now.
Can I not do that?

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Also what’s the case on my slot again?

-TSE

I don’t track your slots’ reads

Like the early townlean on looker for his first post. The thought process and tone in Looker’s post there is pretty NAI

And reading me and Hectic as SvS and then the backtracking by saying it’d be “funny” if we were SvS as opposed to something you believed

Again, I don’t necessarily agree with the Townlean MM had.
Also, I’m not MM so I can’t speak for him.

As for the SvS. It’s a Hot Take. Not an actual read.
Hot Takes are like “Lol what if this is the case” kinda thing.
So I’m case there was confusion there, my apologies.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

so what actual reads do you have on hectic/csf if you don't actually think either one is scum?

We’ll RN I’m trying to resolve their issue around my slot.
Then see how they act around my slot after the fact.
To see if they are pushing me for actually believe it to be scum motivated, Town pushing for reaction, or Scum trying to form a mis lynch.
As of now I don’t have any reads on them really locked in Stone.
Hectic is pushing me because of the “Bracket’s Comment”
And CSF is pushing me because of “My Hot Take”

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'm narrowing down my votes to Amrun, AaronFrost and rooroo; I like rb and Pink Ball (especially since he dropped that atrocious posting style). Still shooting in the dark here.

Choose Amrun, AaronFrost or Rooroo and I’ll vote with you.

[TrueSoulHustler]

One of*

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

Hot Take: Planned Via Scum Chat?

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Yeah in all honestly I think Rooroo is just fuckin around.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I can't translate. Are we trying to catch a particular flag first or just straight scum? I'm just shooting for scum.

White.
-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Hectic should have shown it.

[TrueSoulHustler]

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Why wouldn’t a thought that you didn’t like something merit a vote? It’s early game and low content - that’s exactly what we need to move the game forward. VOTE: TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Let's do something

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Starting with the guy who could have moved his vote already but didn't

Well technically I could have too.
But I get your vote there.

[TrueSoulHustler]

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Why wouldn’t a thought that you didn’t like something merit a vote? It’s early game and low content - that’s exactly what we need to move the game forward. VOTE: TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

Yes, you said it’s ok to “pressure” you. That means voting.

In this gamestate, not liking a post is a great reason to vote someone. There isn’t a better one.


Your reaction is panicky. Ty for being obvious scum <3

Yeah no it’s not panicky nor obv scum.
It’s that you casually found a reason to jump onto my wagon.
If you wanna be like that - Ty for scum claiming.

And what makes you want to increase numbers on me?
For reaction?
Doubt.

In this gamestate, not liking a post is a great reason to vote someone. There isn’t a better one.

This post is scummy right here.
There’s a difference between “not liking” and “thinking it’s scummy”
I still think your being opportunistic.
Do you even scum read me?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

@TrueSoulHustler

I would prefer aggressive voting and pressing than someone tip-toeing around subjects and not being decisive with a vote.

@Creature

What do you mean by saying Blatant could've moved his vote? Who do you think he should've moved it to? What post/moment are you referring to here?

Ok but that doesn’t mean someone has to pressure someone already pressured.
I understand the Hectic and CSF vote on me.
And I understand the pressure that there both making.
But The way Amrun went in to join them there seems way too opportunistic.

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Not liking something = thinking it's scummy, TSE.

Eh, what I look at it it’s more like “I think the post could have been done differently or shouldn’t have been put there”
Yes I guess I wouldn’t be fond of it and would question why it was done.
But it isn’t always directly scummy.
Although it can be, but not always.
Although again your not entirely wrong as some people view scummy as bad posts.
I don’t directly view it scummy as I view high quality Bad Post or a consistency of bad posts scummy.
Rather then something casually said.
Or a Reaction.

The vote I have placed on Amrun is them being Opportunistic.
Or at least I feel as if they are.
But again, I feel it’s a bad post.
However, if they give back reactions or consistent shade/additional signs of being opportunistic.
It would lead to be scummy.
But yeah. I understand.
To most people Bad Posts = Scummy Posts.
I just don’t view it like that.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Well what the hell.
Why not.
Clidd can be IC.

-TSE

Also, why does that make clidd an IC?

From his previous posts.
It makes him above rand town.
Which I’m calling an IC for now.
Can I not do that?

You seem defensive. IC implies strong townread, not above rand-town. Also, why is clidd proving his pop-in was NAI even make him above rand-town?

So do you think this?
(Answers Question = Defensive)
Cause that’s all I did there.

It felt to me like he Town Slipped there.
Or implied it to the point I can consider him IC for now.
Also other then me, what’s your full Reads?

[TrueSoulHustler]

Right now I'm down to vote for Pink Ball or TSH.

Pink Ball's early game posting style, while annoying to read, is probably NAI. However, I didn't love their clidd vote and liked their unvote even less.

TSH I was null on until like pg 12 when they got super defensive over Amrun's vote. The whole 'not liking posts' vs 'scummy posts' is dumb too, since not liking someone's post sort of implies that you're leaning scum there, which is a good reason to vote someone IMO and he's using it as an excuse not to vote anyone.

VOTE: TSH

I think I’m not explaining myself right and for that I apologize.
Bad Posts is ok to push a vote on and I’m not denying that.
I’m saying I don’t believe Bad Posts to mean instantly scummy.
As I voted Amrun for a Bad Post “Opportunistic” not that it was scummy but to apply pressure and call them
out.
Also notice Amrun said “Applying Pressure” but there’s already pressure on me via 2 people.
Their using a bad excuse like “Applying Pressure” to have a purpose for a vote on my wagon.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Like if 2 people are already applying pressure, another instantly applying it only increases the chance of the person’s wagon to be miss lynched.
They could have voted on another player and apply pressure there.
If you do want to vote me as you want to increase numbers on my wagon You should be voting me based on reaction or because you didn’t like a post of mine. Voting for “Pressure” when 2 others are already doing it is kinda a shit and opportunistic reason.
Sure. You can say I’m being defensive.
But how exactly is one suppose to be aggressive when one is forced to defend themselves.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I keep rereading TSH's posts, and I'm not seeing the "defensiveness."

285 reads like coming from town who feels like they've been unfairly accused and think they're being pushed by scum.

290 is pretty nuanced. It's also indicative of TSH not kneejerk OMGUS'ing everyone who votes him, i.e. not defensive.

Well I think Defensiveness means Defending Myself.
Or at least that’s what I’m getting at.

[TrueSoulHustler]

rb continues to bleed town. Feeling pretty good about clid also.


Also, seeing TSH all over this thread is making me feel like I’m at work. I kinda hate it. Lol

Why do I make you feel like your at work?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

TSE, you're arguing semantics. My point was that "not liking" implied finding it scummy in that context. Or as Amrun said, it's a colloquial way of saying it. I'm aware that you can have bad posts which aren't scummy.
The "Can I not do that?" is what pinged me as defensive.
I posted some reads earlier in my ISO.

Could you show me where you think clidd townslipped?

Oh I sometimes I’ll be like that when I get irritated.
The post where he showed his posts in thread from this to an ongoing game felt Townie then scummy.
It’s more or less angel shooting though.
As I’m considering him IC for now.
So mainly for the rest of Day 1.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Maybe also Day 2 if I don’t see any Bad Posts.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

But, of course, I'm not accusing you or anything like that. I haven't reached the point of analysis yet, considering it is too early.

PSA this game has 7-day deadlines, and we have <4 days to go in day 1. I feel like maybe not everyone realizes this given the general lack of urgency?

Oh I realize it quite well.
I’m Top Wagon and I looked at how much time is left to change the wagon to someone who’s not me and whom I don’t Town read.

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I Town read Clidd if that wasn’t obvious.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

da wolf hath been caught

can you explain why you have a problem with this, but you called Looker's similar early game comment townie?

the difference here is that it was done to make me look stupid instead of actually bringing up any actual points

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?

why

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?

Are you all caught up? Why ask these two?

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?

Are you all caught up? Why ask these two?

It would be the opposite: why not ?

it would not be the opposite
dont avoid the question

also iirc i forgot to add my tag
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?

Are you all caught up? Why ask these two?

It would be the opposite: why not ?

Because one of them already gave reads when you asked this question, and I want to know why you asked them specifically

It's more a matter of intuition, followed by curiosity.

thats a bs answer
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Also what’s the case on my slot again?

-TSE

I don’t track your slots’ reads

Like the early townlean on looker for his first post. The thought process and tone in Looker’s post there is pretty NAI

And reading me and Hectic as SvS and then the backtracking by saying it’d be “funny” if we were SvS as opposed to something you believed

Again, I don’t necessarily agree with the Townlean MM had.
Also, I’m not MM so I can’t speak for him.

As for the SvS. It’s a Hot Take. Not an actual read.
Hot Takes are like “Lol what if this is the case” kinda thing.
So I’m case there was confusion there, my apologies.

-TSE

use 'tinfoil' instead more often lul
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[TrueSoulHustler]

Not liking something = thinking it's scummy, TSE.

but thats a pretty common relation
i dont blame him for mixing that up
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[TrueSoulHustler]

also who said i had a fuckin townlean on looker wat
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[TrueSoulHustler]

also who said i had a fuckin townlean on looker wat
-mm

Probably me

You said his first post was villagery

in no way means i have a townlean on him lol
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Not liking something = thinking it's scummy, TSE.

but thats a pretty common relation
i dont blame him for mixing that up
-mm

wait im the one who mixed it up
tses the one whos wrong here
woop
thought u said =/= not = for some reason
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

TSH is an erratic player and that's about all i'm gathering atm

i certainly don't like players who are unclear about their meanings/wordings but i often brainvomit myself and do exactly that. i think they're low-hanging fruit today

not acceptable
give an actual read yo dont just pass us off as lhf
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I Town read Clidd if that wasn’t obvious.

-TSE

woop this is a conflicting game for us innit
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

okay

VOTE: TSH

choo choo more TSH votes

[TrueSoulHustler]

but maybe that's too ambitious and lofty a goal and i should just lynch who i think is a likely scum rather than the most likely white flag scum

okay
so from my standpoint maybe you shouldnt do that since what u think is likely scum so far has been wrong loooooooool
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

breathe
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

ok both of u gotta chill
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

wouldn't even surprise me if both PB and TSH were scum

-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Thanks for proving your point tho

man can we just fucking lynch this

whats with this buildup on my and tses wagon and then just fixating on pb?
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Thanks for proving your point tho

man can we just fucking lynch this

whats with this buildup on my and tses wagon and then just fixating on pb?
-mm

almost as if i scumread PB or something

and since you're just trolling and posting gifs, i really have little to say other than that it proves you're not trying to solve the game at this stage

i post one gif and you classify that as trolling?
genuinely what?
ive posted my thoughts so dont try and toss me aside and ignore what i have said thats unfair bullshit
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it

fool i scumread clidd and id push them if tse agreed with me and im just as much at odds with rb as you cmon
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Thanks for proving your point tho

man can we just fucking lynch this

whats with this buildup on my and tses wagon and then just fixating on pb?
-mm

almost as if i scumread PB or something

and since you're just trolling and posting gifs, i really have little to say other than that it proves you're not trying to solve the game at this stage

i post one gif and you classify that as trolling?
genuinely what?
ive posted my thoughts so dont try and toss me aside and ignore what i have said thats unfair bullshit
-mm

sorry that your hydra partner sux i guess

tse never trolled either, or atleast not trolled without making content as well
dont come at our slot with that kind of shit dude
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

i don't even know who MM is

but whoever you are

your scum AtE game weak

or im just not happy that our slot would get scumread and then consequently ignored completely leaving no room to actually change your mind for the better
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

mad ting none of those are my posts
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

mad ting none of those are my posts
-mm

yeah, sorry that your hydra partner sucks

he doesnt
sorry that you suck at reading lmao
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

jesus thats an overreaction
if youre gonna act like that then go
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

What’s your read on rb and PB, tsh?

rb's weird switch of focus off me was bizarre and especially how they half avoided the question when i called them out for it, nullscum maybe cus im tempted to pass it off as them being stressed
pb is a bit of a wildcard, their clash with rb seems a little bullshit since they both got very very close to ad hominem attacks right out the gate of their interaction, if rb is to be scum they

might

be as well

ill ping tse and tell them to respond to this post too when they get on
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Dude... If you think this is scum!me, you REALLY have no idea who I am.

ya i kind of dont lol
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

rb's weird switch of focus off me was bizarre

Why was it bizarre?

I doubt Rb and pb are scum together lol

i mean rb was pretty hell bent on pushing me and once pb makes a couple posts that ping them their focus just completely redirects off me, its not a townie action
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

(us)*

[TrueSoulHustler]

To be fair, they were pretty tunneled on me before they voted you, so it was just kind of a comeback. And like all comebacks, it was not good.

were they?
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

i don't even know who MM is

but whoever you are

your scum AtE game weak

or im just not happy that our slot would get scumread and then consequently ignored completely leaving no room to actually change your mind for the better
-mm

mad ting none of those are my posts
-mm

yeah, sorry that your hydra partner sucks

he doesnt
sorry that you suck at reading lmao
-mm

Also these posts sound like you’re talking to someone you think is town

i naturally treat people as town when i havent thought of their alignment
once you asked me the question i took a better look at their tone and the context of their actions
call it bullshit but it is what it is
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Yeah it's pretty consistent on their play what you are calling scummy

whats consistent lol?
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

theres no consistency with their past push on you at all, it was far more lax
that it a stark difference compared to how they pushed you recently
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

im going ta bed
later yall

[TrueSoulHustler]

calling me obsessive when your only fucking content is with like two slots the entire game while im interacting with like almost every slot

F U C K O F F

where did i fuckin say u were lmao
i said you were focussed on me when u voted me
if ur gonna replace out do it already dont just linger around being a nuisance
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

god i fucking hate people

talking about pink ball obviously

pink ball never even got fucking close to calling you obsessive LMAO
shit maybe im wrong about the association between u two
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Just ctrl+f “obsess” in pink ball’s iso dude

shit really? ya im definitely going to bed now i didnt see it at all

shit maybe im wrong about the association between u two

What did you mean by this?

their anger is so far beyond theatre that i cant believe that it is a theatre at this point
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

What’s your read on rb and PB, tsh?

rb's weird switch of focus off me was bizarre and especially how they half avoided the question when i called them out for it, nullscum maybe cus im tempted to pass it off as them being stressed
pb is a bit of a wildcard, their clash with rb seems a little bullshit since they both got very very close to ad hominem attacks right out the gate of their interaction, if rb is to be scum they

might

be as well

ill ping tse and tell them to respond to this post too when they get on
-mm

RB is Null.
I felt that they were being sorta a town leader and providing content.
Although the interactions between our slot and them was a weird interaction.

I don’t have a clear read on PB TBH. But if it helps with PoE I wouldn’t directly be against lynching them.
Like if we lynch someone, it should be someone who could help us solve upon their flip.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

What’s your read on rb and PB, tsh?

rb's weird switch of focus off me was bizarre and especially how they half avoided the question when i called them out for it, nullscum maybe cus im tempted to pass it off as them being stressed
pb is a bit of a wildcard, their clash with rb seems a little bullshit since they both got very very close to ad hominem attacks right out the gate of their interaction, if rb is to be scum they

might

be as well

ill ping tse and tell them to respond to this post too when they get on
-mm

rb is not scum here, and even if he is, then there is no situation where rb and PB are scum together.

What’s your read on Amrun?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Something about TSE's posting style feels clunky and hard to read as well and it's not a posting style I've seen him use in other games before

What pings you as off exactly?
My “scum read (-) Bad Read” Post?

[TrueSoulHustler]

I'll be mostly V/LA tomorrow, maybe be able to check in at night

PEDIT: weak townlean on Amrun

Townlean?
Question.
Do you believe Hectic, CSF, RB and Amrun are all Town/TownLean?
As they have all shown interested and have or still is voting me.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I’d like AF to answer that question when he has time!

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I keep rereading TSH's posts, and I'm not seeing the "defensiveness."

285 reads like coming from town who feels like they've been unfairly accused and think they're being pushed by scum.

290 is pretty nuanced. It's also indicative of TSH not kneejerk OMGUS'ing everyone who votes him, i.e. not defensive.

That's not the impressions I got from those posts at all. 285 especially felt like a kneejerk reaction.

I don't get why he understands Hectic and your votes on him but not Amrun's?

No huh?
Look at it this way.
Hectic and CSF Voted me for different reasons.
Amrun didn’t.
They just joined on the wagon to increase Numbers.
They were in no means actual applying any pressure.
They claim it’s my “Reactions” if I remember correctly.
Although when they voted me they barley mentioned any of that.
So would you care where your Townlean on Amrun comes from?
Because if it comes from their vote on me. Then the Townlean shouldn’t be there.

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

No one hammer me before AF comes on.
I don’t want to be miss lynched without AF answering my questions.
I need AF to answer my question.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

@TSH

I'm not sure I get your point about Amrun joining your wagon without reason.

Does everyone need to have a

unique, independent reason to join a wagon?

Is it inherently scummy behavior from your point of view for someone to join a wagon as a reaction to what other players are saying/doing? I find often I myself piggyback off of others' thoughts when I find it's something I actually align with after listening to their thought process. So, I'm not sure what you're seeing here.

Ok think of this.
As scum. What is the best way to miss lynch without being scum read?
Yep, that’s right!
The best way to miss lynch someone is to vote someone who is Top Wagon.
And that’s what Amrun did.
As for the bolded post, in this case here Amrun could have said like “this reaction here was scummy”
Like for example. CSF said certain sections of my post is Townie where AF said they were scummy.
They both explained what it was with a reason.
Amrun should have a reason like that. They didn’t.
As I said before their vote felt “Opportunistic” just casually placing a vote on Top Wagon so they don’t get scum read nor directly town Read.
Call it what you want. I just think Amrun is the scum here as their vote on me is the only one I don’t get.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Honestly, TSH looks much more like a joker card than necessarily a specific alignment. It is almost as if he wants to be lynched.

That’s false.
I’m not at ALL be a Joker here.
And MM’s Playstyle is the complete opposite of a Joker.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Although I understand Clidd’s vote on me.
He’s voting me based upon my wagon as a whole.
I started with a push. Then people jumped onto my wagon while I was trying to defend myself.
I defend myself by explaining and justifying things.
I’m not sure directly why people think it’s scummy but my guess is because I’m doing it more then being aggressive.
However me being defensive helped me call Amrun Out as a Scum Read of mine.
From the wagon as a whole. For most players a beginning wagon usually doesn’t add up like this unless someone is just playing really poorly but in this case it seems to just be a miss understanding.
Thus why Clidd jumped to the conclusion I’m a “Joker Card”.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Why is my reason to join the wagon not unique?

It was 100% unique. Entirely original.

In fact it’s the thing that turned it from like random vote or two into an actual wagon and gave it weight, IMO.


I really don’t even understand why this argument between others is happening. I don’t really care though. Pleased by this wagon.

Elaborate.

Spoiler:

and people voting my wagon after you doesn’t count.

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

im personally gonna give clidd a pardon in my reads because the stance he holds isnt one id personally see a mafia picking and ofc the effort behind his post
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Are you there Amrun?
Please answer my question.
And note to everyone:
DO NOT END DAY WITHOUT MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY AMRUN AND AF


-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

@TSH

I'm not sure I get your point about Amrun joining your wagon without reason.

Does everyone need to have a unique, independent reason to join a wagon? Is it inherently scummy behavior from your point of view for someone to join a wagon as a reaction to what other players are saying/doing? I find often I myself piggyback off of others' thoughts when I find it's something I actually align with after listening to their thought process. So, I'm not sure what you're seeing here.

absolutely
else mafia gets to hide on a wagon
this is me coming in with 0 info on their stance on us (eg if they agreed with a specific post and such)
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

don't worry, i do hate you

yeah im flipflopping on my stance with rb
on one hand it appears genuine
on the other its so outrageously angry that it cant be real

[TrueSoulHustler]

(MM) woop
i think its ez to tell whos who from posting style tho

ima read back for association if i intend to use rb as my core scumread
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

also rb continuing to hang around after they expressed that they were replacing out seems like filler to make their replacement look all the more genuine
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I have rb, Hectic, rooroo (yes you read that correctly), and TSH as town.

since you seem to be the odd one out mind explaining the townread on us?
im curious
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

also as it stands u are next in line from rb so im all the more curious
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

I have rb, Hectic, rooroo (yes you read that correctly), and TSH as town.

since you seem to be the odd one out mind explaining the townread on us?
im curious
-mm

I did in 337.

okay, so you see TSE's posts quite opposite to how everyone else does
aight not much i can say about that then

also as it stands u are next in line from rb so im all the more curious
-mm

Explain?

tbh ur townread on us feels like going against the majority for the sake of towncred even tho im happy someone does, also your townread on a controversial player like rb has gone completely unexplained (unless you said your reasons for the townread in a post without name dropping rb) as if you couldnt properly read a teammate
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Why is my reason to join the wagon not unique?

It was 100% unique. Entirely original.

In fact it’s the thing that turned it from like random vote or two into an actual wagon and gave it weight, IMO.


I really don’t even understand why this argument between others is happening. I don’t really care though. Pleased by this wagon.

Elaborate.

Spoiler:

and people voting my wagon after you doesn’t count.

I found you scummy for my own special reasoning that wasn’t like anyone else’s, is what I’m saying. It’s pretty straight forward. It’s not like I was sheeping onto your wagon. I was uniquely pushing you for things I personally find scummy. I don’t even see a problem if I was sheeping onto your wagon - that can be fine too - but I really wasn’t so the whole discussion you’re having about it is bizarre to me.


I think Looker is smoking something. Are you ok, Looker?!

Yet you fail to tell me what it is.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Something about TSE's posting style feels clunky and hard to read as well and it's not a posting style I've seen him use in other games before

What pings you as off exactly?
My “scum read (-) Bad Read” Post?

I think it's just the way you format your posts.
Your format them like this.
The sentences don't flow much.
And the thoughts don't either.

Like it's probably nothing, but I don't recall you ever using that posting style before so it's kind of throwing me off a bit.

I have done it before.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I keep rereading TSH's posts, and I'm not seeing the "defensiveness."

285 reads like coming from town who feels like they've been unfairly accused and think they're being pushed by scum.

290 is pretty nuanced. It's also indicative of TSH not kneejerk OMGUS'ing everyone who votes him, i.e. not defensive.

That's not the impressions I got from those posts at all. 285 especially felt like a kneejerk reaction.

I don't get why he understands Hectic and your votes on him but not Amrun's?

No huh?
Look at it this way.
Hectic and CSF Voted me for different reasons.
Amrun didn’t.
They just joined on the wagon to increase Numbers.
They were in no means actual applying any pressure.
They claim it’s my “Reactions” if I remember correctly.
Although when they voted me they barley mentioned any of that.
So would you care where your Townlean on Amrun comes from?
Because if it comes from their vote on me. Then the Townlean shouldn’t be there.

So like, do you think each and every single person who votes you needs to have a completely unique reason for placing your vote there? Because that's not usually how wagoning people works.

You say it didn't add pressure either, but your reactions to her votes tells me otherwise.

Why pressure something that’s already pressured?
You can’t apply air to air.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Honestly, TSH looks much more like a joker card than necessarily a specific alignment. It is almost as if he wants to be lynched.

This could be a case for them being the black flag, going back to my theory/setup spec.

No.
I’m not even Mafia.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

tbh ur townread on us feels like going against the majority for the sake of towncred even tho im happy someone does, also your townread on a controversial player like rb has gone completely unexplained (unless you said your reasons for the townread in a post without name dropping rb) as if you couldnt properly read a teammate
-mm

Rb isn’t controversial. Aside from pb who I think is probscum, you are the only other person who thinks he’s scum iirc

And the guy is obvtown.

Scum don’t get pissed off to the point of replacing out in this gamestate over an argument. I know you think his emotional outburst was scummy, but it’s much more likely coming from town who has a short fuse for arguing against someone who wouldn’t budge. And thats believable considering he back and forthed with pb for a long time without pb having re-evaluated any of his reads.

rb is controversial because everyone wants to avoid talking about the situation
your reason is far from good enough because you townread them long before their eventual outburst

[TrueSoulHustler]

-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

tbh ur townread on us feels like going against the majority for the sake of towncred even tho im happy someone does, also your townread on a controversial player like rb has gone completely unexplained (unless you said your reasons for the townread in a post without name dropping rb) as if you couldnt properly read a teammate
-mm

also I don’t understand - do you think that TSE’s posts were overly defensive and warrant the votes on him?

honestly
ya
doesnt change the fact that we are town
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

tbh ur townread on us feels like going against the majority for the sake of towncred even tho im happy someone does, also your townread on a controversial player like rb has gone completely unexplained (unless you said your reasons for the townread in a post without name dropping rb) as if you couldnt properly read a teammate
-mm

Rb isn’t controversial. Aside from pb who I think is probscum, you are the only other person who thinks he’s scum iirc

And the guy is obvtown.

Scum don’t get pissed off to the point of replacing out in this gamestate over an argument. I know you think his emotional outburst was scummy, but it’s much more likely coming from town who has a short fuse for arguing against someone who wouldn’t budge. And thats believable considering he back and forthed with pb for a long time without pb having re-evaluated any of his reads.

rb is controversial because everyone wants to avoid talking about the situation
your reason is far from good enough because you townread them long before their eventual outburst

Early scumhunting
Early push on pb feels nuanced (ie the part where he says pb is only joking around and not scumhunting vs me and hectic)
His push on pb feels like something he really believes in
His overall tone resembles the one game I played with him in

He went from like medium strength townread to really strong townread

early scumhunting means nothing
genuineness is only really useful as a starting point

[TrueSoulHustler]

Do you disagree with “rb’s tilt was very towny”? If so, why

?

[TrueSoulHustler]

rb is controversial because everyone wants to avoid talking about the situation

Also wat. Who has avoided talking about him?

emphasis on "wants"
it isnt exactly anyones favorite topic, a handful of people even tried to change the topic

[TrueSoulHustler]

Is TSE the one driving this hydra? Who gets to decide where your hydra is voting?

we hopefully come to a consensus
(-mm on all dat)

[TrueSoulHustler]

Do you disagree with “rb’s tilt was very towny”? If so, why

?

tilt = his replace out

its fairly nai

[TrueSoulHustler]

Is TSE the one driving this hydra? Who gets to decide where your hydra is voting?

Well I think I’ve made it clear that Amrun is the vote based upon their push on me.
IDK if MM agrees with my read but I feel really strongly of it.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

early scumhunting means nothing
genuineness is only really useful as a starting point

Remind me who your townreads are again?

strongest to weakest:
hectic, doesnt reak of agenda, seems like they are pushing for things thatd benefit town (besides our hang), solid content
clidd, before his tone seemed off but lately hes gone above and beyond effort-wise
aaron, has the right focus, tonal read
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Is TSE the one driving this hydra? Who gets to decide where your hydra is voting?

Well I think I’ve made it clear that Amrun is the vote based upon their push on me.
IDK if MM agrees with my read but I feel really strongly of it.

-TSE

amruns a solid null

[TrueSoulHustler]

going ta bed.
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

Is TSE the one driving this hydra? Who gets to decide where your hydra is voting?

Well I think I’ve made it clear that Amrun is the vote based upon their push on me.
IDK if MM agrees with my read but I feel really strongly of it.

-TSE

amruns a solid null

Why’s that?

-TSE

Actually NM I’ll discuss it with you in Hydra Chat.

[TrueSoulHustler]

going ta bed.
-mm

Yeah same TBH.
Should already be in bed.
I work in the morning.

[TrueSoulHustler]

tbh ur townread on us feels like going against the majority for the sake of towncred even tho im happy someone does, also your townread on a controversial player like rb has gone completely unexplained (unless you said your reasons for the townread in a post without name dropping rb) as if you couldnt properly read a teammate
-mm

Rb isn’t controversial. Aside from pb who I think is probscum, you are the only other person who thinks he’s scum iirc

And the guy is obvtown.

Scum don’t get pissed off to the point of replacing out in this gamestate over an argument. I know you think his emotional outburst was scummy, but it’s much more likely coming from town who has a short fuse for arguing against someone who wouldn’t budge. And thats believable considering he back and forthed with pb for a long time without pb having re-evaluated any of his reads.

rb is controversial because everyone wants to avoid talking about the situation
your reason is far from good enough because you townread them long before their eventual outburst

Before I go to sleep.
I’m just curious as to why our strongest scum Reads the other Null Reads.
Anyone done A Hydra before and can relate?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: RooRoo

Why is RooRoo a better lynch over Amrun?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Why is my reason to join the wagon not unique?

It was 100% unique. Entirely original.

In fact it’s the thing that turned it from like random vote or two into an actual wagon and gave it weight, IMO.


I really don’t even understand why this argument between others is happening. I don’t really care though. Pleased by this wagon.

Elaborate.

Spoiler:

and people voting my wagon after you doesn’t count.

I found you scummy for my own special reasoning that wasn’t like anyone else’s, is what I’m saying. It’s pretty straight forward. It’s not like I was sheeping onto your wagon. I was uniquely pushing you for things I personally find scummy. I don’t even see a problem if I was sheeping onto your wagon - that can be fine too - but I really wasn’t so the whole discussion you’re having about it is bizarre to me.


I think Looker is smoking something. Are you ok, Looker?!

Yet you fail to tell me what it is.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Amrun as a lynch today

Who do you think links RooRoo’s Partner?
Assuming RooRoo is scum. Who would be their partner?

[TrueSoulHustler]

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

TSH aside from Amrun, who else is on your radar?

Not sure.
But if I had to guess a partner for Amrun it would be someone distancing.
So I’d say someone who’s not on me nor cares to be.

Sorry, when I’m focused on one player it’s hard for me to make confident scum Reads on others without trying to build associations off of the person I’m focused on which in this case is Amrun.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

vote count 1.15

TrueSoulHustler (4)

: Hectic, Amrun, AaronFrost, clidd

rooroo (3)

: Looker, Uncrowned, woodchuck321

Uncrowned (2)

: Cat Scratch Fever, Rooroo

Creature (1)

: Blatant Scum

Amrun (1)

: TrueSoulHustler

Blatant Scum (1)

: Creature

clidd (1)

: Pink Ball

not voting:

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-02-16 08:00:00)

mod notes: AaronFrost v/la 13/02
♥ remember to ♥ take ♥ the maf♥iascum ♥ valentines ♥ quiz ♥
quack, quack.

If Amrun doesn’t have at least 3 votes during morning.
I’m switching to Rooroo as I want to live to get a scum lynched.
But who knows. Rooroo could be Amrun’s Scum Buddy.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

explain again why you disliked Amrun's vote on you, TSE? i voted you because i disliked some of your play, which meant that i found it scummy. Amrun did the same thing, what's the difference other than her vote coming after mine?
for the record though, i do find Amrun slightly flag-obsessed this game in some greyscale ways, but it's for entirely different reasons to you.

She never had a valid reason.
You did.
I can see why you would do it.
Not Amrun.
She says she has a reason but refuses to say what it is.
And if it’s “Pressure” then that’s just a bad reason as you and CSF were already applying it.
You both had good reasoning.
Amrun lacked that.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

If Amrun doesn’t have at least 3 votes during morning.
I’m switching to Rooroo as I want to live to get a scum lynched.
But who knows. Rooroo could be Amrun’s Scum Buddy.

-TSE

I actually feel that, if either Amrun or rooroo is scum, you're most likely to be scum with one of them.

---

• You haven't left an impression yet, Cat Scratch.

You think I’m scum with Amrun or Rooroo?
I mean maybe Rooroo but I’ve been pushing Amrun ever since they gave me scum vibes.

VOTE: Rooroo

[TrueSoulHustler]

I said what it was when I posted it. I really don’t understand this lack of comprehension.

It wasn’t a post you didn’t like.
CSF and Hectic told me posts they didn’t like.
YOU on the other hand didn’t.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I definitely Town read CSF over those posts.

@CSF
Name 3 players who you would want to lynch and why.
Other then myself of course.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

And by "enough credit" I mean NOT AT ALL lol

Well I feel Clidds actions have been pro Town.
But that read mainly realizes on that Outside Angle Shooting he did.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I definitely Town read CSF over those posts.

@CSF
Name 3 players who you would want to lynch and why.
Other then myself of course.

-TSE

How can you say you're townreading CSF over those posts, where he clearly stated who he would like to lynch, and then ask him who he would like to lynch.

For fucks sake TSE, you make this too damn difficult.

I must have missed something in his ISO.
I only seen his Uncrowned read.

Also I Town read him based upon his contribution.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Should pinkie be scumreading you here, rooroo?

Probably not

I’d also be willing to wagon PB to see if that gains any traction but Uncrowned is less likely to be black flag of the two.

I think Amrun is the White Flag and we instantly win if we lynch them.
Just look at the resistance.
It went to the point where the wagon doesn’t seem to ever be happening Day 1.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

is looker always this lurky? Asking for a friend

I assume Looker is 1/3 of the people you want to lynch.
So if it’s Looker, Uncrowned who’s the last choice that you believe to be the full team?

[TrueSoulHustler]

TSF, it's a known fact that you're willing to lynch me, but is there any chance you could townread me? I think early game!PB and present!PB has gone 180°, so I don't get the insistence. If I'll be judged for a 1v1 that I didn't start where my counterpart replaced put saying they would kill themselves, then I'd rather be lynched today than later.

heres the thing
180s arent townie
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

tbh ur townread on us feels like going against the majority for the sake of towncred even tho im happy someone does, also your townread on a controversial player like rb has gone completely unexplained (unless you said your reasons for the townread in a post without name dropping rb) as if you couldnt properly read a teammate
-mm

Could you elaborate on this please? What don't you like about her defence of you?

it just doesnt feel natural
it could be the atmosphere from everyone gunning for our throat but even so having like, 2, reasons to townread us is a bit sketch

[TrueSoulHustler]

strongest to weakest:
hectic, doesnt reak of agenda, seems like they are pushing for things thatd benefit town (besides our hang), solid content
clidd, before his tone seemed off but lately hes gone above and beyond effort-wise
aaron, has the right focus, tonal read
-mm

i'm kind of paranoid of being your strongest read here tbh. looking back, 561 does look kinda agenda-ey, you were fine with the confidence in that post?

im gonna have to take a pass on that shade chief
-mm

[TrueSoulHustler]

TSH, can I also interest you in the Uncrowned wagon?

Yes and No.
If you can get more votes I wouldn’t mind voting it.
You and Clidd are my only Confident Town Reads.
Well maybe Hectic as well.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

At this point if no one is willing to lynch Amrun then as long as they don’t lynch me or my Town Reads I’m good.
We always have Day 2 to lynch Amrun.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Speaking of Amrun, Amrun where are you with the rest of your reads?

Probably in their scum chat.
Also do you feel that Amrun could be buddys with Uncrowned?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

strongest to weakest:
hectic, doesnt reak of agenda, seems like they are pushing for things thatd benefit town (besides our hang), solid content
clidd, before his tone seemed off but lately hes gone above and beyond effort-wise
aaron, has the right focus, tonal read
-mm

i'm kind of paranoid of being your strongest read here tbh. looking back, 561 does look kinda agenda-ey, you were fine with the confidence in that post?

im gonna have to take a pass on that shade chief
-mm

I slightly Town read simply based upon your reasoning and contribution.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

@CSF

Do you think Scum!RooRoo ever appears in an Scum!Uncrowned world?

[TrueSoulHustler]

@TSH

Could you perhaps summarize your reason for wanting to lynch Amrun?

Although I'm against it at the moment, I'm not really great at reading her, so I'm willing to reevaluate.

Ok so Hectic said “I didn’t like this post” and voted.
CSF said “I didn’t like this one” and voted.
Amrun said “I don’t like you” and voted.

Hectic - Gave Hated Post before voting
CSF - Also Gave Hated Post Before voting
Amrun - Voted me and called me scum

[TrueSoulHustler]

Legit nothing of the same aluphatude as Hectic and CSF Gave.


It’s almost like Amrun was just trying to find some excuse to voting me.
Which scum do.
Scum will try and jump on a wagon and “appear” to blend in and try and seem like they voted like Hectic and CSF did.
They DIDN’T
They didn’t make content
Generate a question.
They just straight out voted and tried to make it look normal.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I’ll be asleep by the time day ends.
I GTG to sleep very soon.
Who do I put my final vote on.
My actual scum read Amrun and risk being miss lynched?
Or do I vote Rooroo to save myself from being miss lynched?
If there’s anyone on.
Tell me what to do.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

How much time is left in Day?
2 Hours?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Vote yourself, pro move

No.
I’m Town.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Well since I’m getting no answer on the remaining time left.
Ima just head to bed and prey Town didn’t miss lynch me.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

14 hours until deadline but I guess we can ask for an extension since Creature's replacement hasn't come?

Ok.
If your sure it’s 14 hours left and your not trying to fuck with me just to make me take my vote off RooRoo so I get miss lynched.

VOTE: Amrun

I still want to lynch this today.

[TrueSoulHustler]

{Uncrowned}
{Hectic, Cat, Pink Ball}
{AaronFrost, Woodchuck}
{Amrun}
{Clidd}
{Rooroo}
{Blatant Scum, Creature}
{TrueSoulHustler, Looker}

I'm willing to give Rooroo the benefit of the doubt here.

I doubt a wagon can get done on Looker by this day phase, but I suggest we push that slot tomorrow.

Going to check what the vote count is and then move my vote.

Why put Amrun so High?
Even above Clidd?

NGL if I’m lynched they at probably going to weasel their way out of being lynched.
And probably sheep Aaron.
I bet you anything Amrun is the White Flag.
THINK ABOUT IT!
It makes sense.
Why is the resistance so High?
Because both their buddies refuse to lynch their White Flag!

[TrueSoulHustler]

Anyway I’m going to sleep.
GN.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Effective immediately, Skygazer replaces Creature

There will be another 48 hours added to EoD 1, so that she can catch up, unless she needs less time.

~quack

Sweet.
We can still get that Amrun lynch off.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

@CSF

Here’s your theme song!

[TrueSoulHustler]

Cool, Uncrowned is town too.

Why?

They don’t elaborate their reads like this.
You should know that.

Like I’m telling you all Amrun usually explains their reads before announcing them or voting.
They aren’t doing that here.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Actually you know what.
Amrun’s Town Read seems played.
Ok so Assuming Uncrowned And Amrun are buddies.

Amrun is Grey or Black Flag
And Uncrowned is White.

They put them into their town Reads to try and wave it off.
Or vice versa.

Uncrowned is Grey or Black Flag And Amrun is White.

Amrun wants to avoid their buddy being lynched today, as they hope to get a miss lynch on me.

Furthermore, VOTE: Uncrowned
If this is Grey or Black Flag I want Amrun lynch immediately without hesitation.
I think Amrun is scum here.
No ones willing to vote them.
So If I can’t vote them I’ll vote the person who has the highest chance on being their scum buddy.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

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It's me or mafiascum is broken?

Broken.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

@TrueSoulHustler

I remember the two games that you flipped

scum

. In both, your number of posts has always been in the top 3, characterized by high activity (TSE). What would differentiate this game from your behavioral pattern ?

I’m always a high poster.
Look at my Town games.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

My posting isn’t alignment indicative.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I wouldn't say that I'm TR anyone right now - I just feel certain flips would be more beneficial than Pink Ball's at the moment. I haven't even considered a clidd flip.

How can you not be TR anyone?

Struggling to understand this from a town perspective.

Then understand it from a scum perspective since your scum.
I mean, who says “Town Prespective” other then scum.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I’m a little spooked by how TSH’s wagon has stalled though even though his play hasn’t changed

And generally by how all wagons seem to be stalled. I don’t think anyone has hit L-2 all game

That’s why I’m saying Amrun is the scum here.
Their buddy is someone distancing.
Who’s claimed they scum read me and is distancing? Uncrowned.
At least he’s the one I’m most familiar with.
As such I think an Amrun/Uncrowned scum team is the thing here.
It would explain why the game is being stalled.

[TrueSoulHustler]

@CSF

I think this is you.
I got This from Mafia 451.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Northsidegal

[TrueSoulHustler]

Your winrate is really good I’m jealous.
Mine is shit.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

I have been pretty transparent with my reads IMO, minus that Uncrowned one.

I think you have been transparent with the ones you’ve given, but you haven’t given many reads.

For Uncrowned, I just liked their re-read. It didn’t feel like they had an agenda. They were seeing what shook out and giving it a go. They didn’t end up with great results but they tried. I did that myself as town in Guns N’ Roses 3. It’s just a towny thing to do.

I think effort wall posts can come from scum, especially when they’re under pressure, and the agenda could simply be to look town to get pressure off of you. One or two effort posts is less town indicative than sustained effort imo.

Granted, but I’m sharing my reads as they come to me.

And of course effort posts come from scum

- but the content of his comes off towny to me is what I’m saying. When scum effort post they usually have a goal - showing progression, etc. uncrowned did not seem to have such an agenda, which seemed to me like he was genuinely searching and just didn’t find.

I disagree with

Bolded

TBH.
Also the way you said that was scummy AF.

@Everyone
Do you see this?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

If you know about the three flags, you know that your analysis in post #850 is invalid, right?

To be honest, if there is something invalid in the game, or rather, in the

forum

, it is your reasoning process.

There’s but no one else’s?

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

For Amrun’s partner I think it’s either Uncrowned or Pink Ball.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Hammer.

VOTE: TSH

I’m pretty sure your already voting me there buddy.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

Anyway I’m Town.
Shouldn’t be a surprise.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

btw

VOTE: TSH

How likely do you think he's the Black Flag?

I’m the Green Flag.

[TrueSoulHustler]

You know who’s probably the black flag though.
Or maybe even the white.

Spoiler:

Amrun

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: Amrun

VOTE: Amrun

[TrueSoulHustler]

More jester stuff:

Spoiler:

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

I think TSE knows how mafia works to not make these posts as non-jester. It's such a stupid issue to focus on that draws attention to yourself.

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

Hot Take: Planned Via Scum Chat?

Planned via scum chat to say that exact same thing, in what way does this help scum? Another ridiculous take which is more jestery than anything.

Let's do something

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Starting with the guy who could have moved his vote already but didn't

Well technically I could have too.
But I get your vote there.

Pointing out something he did could be scummy. This is a pretty good one.

okay

VOTE: TSH

choo choo more TSH votes

Not attempting to really defend himself. He doesn't really care about being lynched.

So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it

fool i scumread clidd and id push them if tse agreed with me and im just as much at odds with rb as you cmon
-mm

Specifically refutes a point that suggests they're the Black Flag.

No one hammer me before AF comes on.
I don’t want to be miss lynched without AF answering my questions.
I need AF to answer my question.

-TSE

Seems he's resigned himself to being lynched with the "No one hammer me before AF comes on." Has no fight in him, doesn't want to actually survive.

Also, I have new flag for jester hunting, do you guys like it?

I disagree.
Not all of that was Jester stuff SMH.

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: TSH

This is

L-1.

Oh shit.
Didn’t see that vote.

[TrueSoulHustler]

Looks like I’ve been given know choice
I hard Claim VANILLA Townie (FLAG)

[TrueSoulHustler]

UNVOTE:
Do not put him on L-1; he can self-hammer. Be back later.

(Emerald flag with crimson streaks)

Why TF would I self hammer?
I’m Town.

-TSE

[TrueSoulHustler]

So you're trying to WIFOM us now with which Flag you are?

The Green One.
It should be obvious by now.

[TrueSoulHustler]

More jester stuff:

Spoiler:

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

I think TSE knows how mafia works to not make these posts as non-jester. It's such a stupid issue to focus on that draws attention to yourself.

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

Hot Take: Planned Via Scum Chat?

Planned via scum chat to say that exact same thing, in what way does this help scum? Another ridiculous take which is more jestery than anything.

Let's do something

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Starting with the guy who could have moved his vote already but didn't

Well technically I could have too.
But I get your vote there.

Pointing out something he did could be scummy. This is a pretty good one.

okay

VOTE: TSH

choo choo more TSH votes

Not attempting to really defend himself. He doesn't really care about being lynched.

So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it

fool i scumread clidd and id push them if tse agreed with me and im just as much at odds with rb as you cmon
-mm

Specifically refutes a point that suggests they're the Black Flag.

No one hammer me before AF comes on.
I don’t want to be miss lynched without AF answering my questions.
I need AF to answer my question.

-TSE

Seems he's resigned himself to being lynched with the "No one hammer me before AF comes on." Has no fight in him, doesn't want to actually survive.

Also, I have new flag for jester hunting, do you guys like it?

I disagree.
Not all of that was Jester stuff SMH.

VOTE: TSH

This is

L-1.

Oh shit.
Didn’t see that vote.

You're scumclaiming with these posts. Correct?

No.