Secret Hitler: Round 3 (Liberal victory!)

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oh

hey

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confirm

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confirm

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i am lib

i am going to 0 post for a little bit and decide who i want as my chanc

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i know i'm suppose to pick AF but i'm eh about that

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hectic if you nein i'm going to do my utmost to never give you a government

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because you don't just randomly nein the first government

i know i'm lib and i'm in the 1 slot

furthermore getting information mechanically on my alignment is disproporitionately more impactful than getting it on someone elses because reading me off of play isn't as easy and my reads are prett yvaluable coming from a townspewed slot.

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if you nein lib RC in the 1 slot there will never be any semblance of town unity in this game and you should realize that.

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you

always

ja the first mission because there's no reason not to and the 1 slot is the most valuable slot to have information on.

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ok

i'm going to do the mechanically optimal play

NOminate: Okapoka

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i'm already like

kinda put out by this start to the game.

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ok

Nominate: Aaronfrost

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I got 2 F 1 L

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I'm not going to hold anyone to this but strictly speaking optimal play is to pass to AF and have them pick a partner in the remainder of the game, since they've already been seen to pass a Lib policy.

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/in

Pinky promise to be less of a sour asshole than last time

pine literally promised to be town btw

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How does that make them lib?

It does not clear them

But unless I have an actual read on play that I think outweighs it they have more reason to be Lib read than the rest of the game + it allows skip to me playing another government with another other person for the third gov't

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Again I"m not holding anyone to it.

I am more interested in playing this game as a social deduction game than a mechancis game.

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There is more mechanical evidence for me being town than anyone else in the game and I'm not wolfy by posting either.

Are you just trying to dismantle the townblock before it gets established, Pine?

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If AF is hitler he ABSOLUTELY passes lib.

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I'm kind of ok with Ircher's posting

interested in seeing them play a gov't

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Pine/Hectic/Ausuka is kinda slim pickings

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literally there is more evidence for me being town than any other person in the game mechanically

my alignment shouldn't be your #1 concern right now

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so

next govt is 3/4 - 1

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basically the next decision is
do we townread hectic or aaronfrost more.

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4-7 deck btw assuming ircher is lib

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so what, is scum game plan just go after me and hope that you can paranoia town into ignoring me?

I've passed a lib policy, I'm in the next gov't period.

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THere are 2 slots in the game who haven't touched the deck in a game where 2 liberal policies have flipped and both of them are going after the 1 slot liberal who has already passed a liberal policy

that is something that people should be a lot more interested in and not saying moronic shit like "his play so far is meh"

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THere are 2 slots in the game who haven't touched the deck in a game where 2 liberal policies have flipped and both of them are going after the 1 slot liberal who has already passed a liberal policy

that is something that people should be a lot more interested in and not saying moronic shit like "his play so far is meh"

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why would i give you the gov't?

also, why is it an us?

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Fuck you hectic/pine if either of you are lib

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It's the start of the fucking game I have only been mechanically spewed liberal

none of you have any right to any sort of assertion that you can read me

and I've spent more time this game defending myself than actually trying to scumhunt

what a fucking joke.

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Fuck you hectic/pine if either of you are lib

And now getting hostile when called on it

Yeah, I'm getting hostile when you're making something I was looking forward to completely unpleasant.

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the fact that more of the discussion in this game has been on the alignment of the player who has more evidence for them being town than anyone else is inexcusable and it's disgusting and it flaunts any idea of playing to win and it flaunts any idea of playing to enjoy yourselves because this is clearly going to set me off when no one has shit to say besides oooooh RC big spooky deepwolf

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the fact that more of the discussion in this game has been on the alignment of the player who has more evidence for them being town than anyone else is inexcusable and it's disgusting and it flaunts any idea of playing to win and it flaunts any idea of playing to enjoy yourselves because this is clearly going to set me off when no one has shit to say besides oooooh RC big spooky deepwolf

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nein this if you're lib

correct play is aaron-RC

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i'm not making it all about myself

you all made it all about me when you decided i couldn't go a single fucking page without being called a deepwolf

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there is no reason pine or djstr touch the deck right now with 2 lib policies passed.

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there is no reason pine or djstr touch the deck right now with 2 lib policies passed.

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Well, you're making it all about yourself, RC

Which isn't something lib does

this is not something pine ever actually believes. this is a wolf claim.

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pine is 100% fascist.

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i'm fairly sure

that hectic/pine is fasc fasc and they felt they needed to pass an L to unseat town

particularly given that ircher is the second villageriest player given a pass on his presidency

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what did you pass forward

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stop

did you force or are you claiming to have 1f1l

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stop

did you force or are you claiming to have 1f1l

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kk

so 0 info on pine

that is a lot less hectic scumspewy than i expected but i still don't think pine is ever f and i still think ircher is lib

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don't think pine is ever lib*

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don't think pine is ever lib*

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af-rc seems correct here.

i wouldn't object to af-ircher either

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i'm willing to pass aaron-ircher

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regardless if aaron claims 3f he doesn't touch the deck again for a while. if avoidable.

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regardless if aaron claims 3f he doesn't touch the deck again for a while. if avoidable.

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ok

skip to RC

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we're not giving the deck to anyone who hasn't touched it yet when 1-2-3 all have passed liberal policies for the same reason that you don't lynch a gunsmith inno in a game with at most 1 scumdoc until later game

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we're not giving the deck to anyone who hasn't touched it yet when 1-2-3 all have passed liberal policies for the same reason that you don't lynch a gunsmith inno in a game with at most 1 scumdoc until later game

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no he's not speaking sense, thanks. you're fully aware if you're lib that AF passing Fasc as Pres and RC passing Lib with AF chanc is a big deal.

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it's obviously the player who has already passed a liberal policy???

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this isn't, like, a question???

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because i have passed a lib policy as gov and neither of you have

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because i have passed a lib policy as gov and neither of you have

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Ircher is TL

Pine is obviously fasc

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it shouldn't feel wrong to scumread pine.

i think that it's probably that 3 f in 456

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we're not letting Pine pres so if you're lib you really should nein this

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we're not letting Pine pres so if you're lib you really should nein this

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if you pass this as lib you are turning this game from a near mechanical autowin to a game we lose about 30% of the time.

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wow

that's not along lines or anything

nein to whatever gets played

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NOM: RC

clarify this for me

why would you ja something i was pushing really hard against

then nom me

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i actually wanted to pick aaronfrost but i'm fine with you.

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I want to test you

i've already been tested.

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i have no stds

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i have no stds

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i'm not mech clear

i'm still significantly townier than you.

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nah

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because i don't want you to be president and be able to discard a card without me knowing.

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because i don't want you to be president and be able to discard a card without me knowing.

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Nominate: Hectic

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first game

pine got outed because of his play not because of mechanics

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if this flips 3f i'm going to die a lot inside.

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you can't kill anyone on a no.

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3/3 topdecks the policy

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1l2f

does anyone know how to do the math regarding the cards in policy deck thing? do we know if any cards were buried

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hoooooooold your horses

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still

hold your horses

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ja

just that

like idk how ircher would be f but if he is that would really suck if he gets to bury but i think we're good

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i like to, uh, be thorough. but i'm not exactly

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claim next 3 policies.

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there's something to be said for slowing down and not rushing this just in case it's not exactly pine djstr

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ggwp

sorry if i was too salty about the push on me.

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remember when i said aaron shouldn't touch the deck again if he passed a 3f and you said i was being silly

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af what you should have done is passed an F oplicy and claimed i passed you 2f and conflicted me.

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i actually wanted to pick aaronfrost but i'm fine with you.

also

this was specifically because they were my hitler read

and i wanted to force them to play L or out themselves and kill the late game plan

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i actually wanted to pick aaronfrost but i'm fine with you.

also

this was specifically because they were my hitler read

and i wanted to force them to play L or out themselves and kill the late game plan

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remember when i said aaron shouldn't touch the deck again if he passed a 3f and you said i was being silly

I mean I wasn't actually lying. I really did get three F

it was really more of a

you shouldn't touch the deck at all

but if you pass an L i'm ok with it

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like

that's not the point

the point is that there was a point where i was the ONLY person in the game who had passed a lib policy as gov

and i was still the person the plurality of people were talking about as scum

that's a really problematic gamestate.

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like

that's not the point

the point is that there was a point where i was the ONLY person in the game who had passed a lib policy as gov

and i was still the person the plurality of people were talking about as scum

that's a really problematic gamestate.

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it's not a very slight % increase

my chance of being scum is literally halved because i would have cut the L policy and claimed 3f as normal fascist 100% of the time

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The problem for me here was that I never had a single chance to do anything mechanically pro-Liberal, while RC was given opportunity after opportunity. I felt like Sisyphus

I agree, even as a lib there was just no way to prove my role.

it's because in SH you don't need all the town to find each other, you just need a working townblock

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I have to agree with RC here. He was mechanically more likely town, even if it was a very slight % increase.

If he was Hitler which there was a small possibility he was, we would have lost

you don't worry about RC Hitler outside of hitler zone

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like

that's not the point

the point is that there was a point where i was the ONLY person in the game who had passed a lib policy as gov

and i was still the person the plurality of people were talking about as scum

that's a really problematic gamestate.

Passing a liberal policy round 1 is a complete null tell and you somehow convinced yourself that it wasn't because it was you. If anyone else had tried that shit, you'd have never let them be elected for anything ever again

bruh

i would 100% have passed F as fascist if i had the opportunity to. it's not even in question?

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like its your JOB to pass fascist policies as f

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you were the reason i was telling everyone to slow the fuck down @dsjstr

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Mmmkay, apparently I just shouldn't play this game anymore.

I recommend you read the Round 2 with myself and NSG scum if you want to get a better feel for how playing F is

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this game is not mafia, normal styles of trying to be under the radar and look vaguely towny don't work and your job as f isn't to fool everyone

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i spent literally the entire game being called variants of fucking fascist, obviously fascist, clearly fascist, outed fascist, etc.

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Ok.

I question how you would like it if I talked negatively about you behind your back despite us barely knowing each other and popped into postgames to say negative things about you.