Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Alisae]

What does WIM mean?

oh this is an MU term referring to wanting the win more.
Its stands for Wants It More.

[Alisae]

I literally told Bitmap how to play scum and even wrote him a book
Still doesn’t wanna do it.

[Alisae]

“BUT ALI, YOU’RE OVERESTIMATING TOWNS AND HOW THEY SELF IMPLODED”
NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT THAT IS NOT HOW SCUMPLAY WORKS
SCUMPLAY IS NOT WAITING FOR THE TOWN TO IMPLODE
SCUMPLAY IS NOT ABOUT IMITATING YOUR TOWN GAME
SCUMPLAY IS ABOUT SETTING THE AGENDA AND CONTROLLING THE NARATIVE
SCUMPLAY IS ABOUT USING TEAMWORK TO DOMINATE AND WIN THE GAME BECAUSE YOU ARE THE INFORMED MINORITY SO MAKE USE OF THAT FUCKING POWER YOU FUCKING FUCKING TROLL.

[Alisae]

I mean
Killing FL has its pros
For one it shuts him up.

[Alisae]

“BUT ALI, YOU’RE OVERESTIMATING TOWNS AND HOW THEY SELF IMPLODED”
NO YOU FUCKING IDIOT THAT IS NOT HOW SCUMPLAY WORKS
SCUMPLAY IS NOT WAITING FOR THE TOWN TO IMPLODE
SCUMPLAY IS NOT ABOUT IMITATING YOUR TOWN GAME
SCUMPLAY IS ABOUT SETTING THE AGENDA AND CONTROLLING THE NARATIVE
SCUMPLAY IS ABOUT USING TEAMWORK TO DOMINATE AND WIN THE GAME BECAUSE YOU ARE THE INFORMED MINORITY SO MAKE USE OF THAT FUCKING POWER YOU FUCKING FUCKING TROLL.

I agree with Bitmap although forcing implosions is good. I want to beat you as scum now.

what Bitmap did was NOT forcing implosions what?

[Alisae]

What Bitmap did was openwolf and not know how to play scum.

Its missing that one thing that makes good fucking food, good fucking food: It was made with passion.
His play has no passion
He doesn’t even want to be scum you can see it in his fucking play.
No one that flipped, was excited to play scum.

[Alisae]

That’s just the facts
If Maki and Kaito were excited to play scum, they post
If Bitmap was excited to play scum, he listens to me when trying to adopt a mindset because his was wrong, and he got lynched for it.
Aaron tried and I hope he got something out of this game, but he still has a lot to go and his first reaction was “I wish I randed town”

Thats the fucking problem with this playerlist
Everyone wishes they randed town, so when they rand scum, they lose because they don’t know how to play the fucking alignment.

[Alisae]

Playing scum is bad juju Ali

You should have drafted FL

Can’t build a team around him.
All of his buddies get lynched early and he can’t win F3 so...

[Alisae]

I wanted to because I knew it would be fun, but FL needs competent teammates in a playerlist that has no competent team mates.
And I can only do so so much

[Alisae]

Please tell me who I draft Gobble
Its really fucking cute

[Alisae]

You should've drafted me Alisae

I would've loved the challenge

for some reason, my instincts tell me this would not end well

Please tell me who I draft Gobble
Its really fucking cute

Well you draft all the hydra you can first of all

Draft Ank

Draft FL

Then draft Hectic

this would definitely not go well.

[Alisae]

thats not even realistic you fuckin turkey

[Alisae]

all im saying is if we had two more masons left including gobble this game would've been a guaranteed win! so that means titus has a better plan than a guaranteed win by lylo

Gobble was the last mason. Alisae solved that, despite my attempts to hide that.

Rest in peace Gobble.

obv mason is obv

[Alisae]

it was very obvious

[Alisae]

leafywashere kek

[Alisae]

NEXT

[Alisae]

Titus

[Alisae]

you don't believe me?
just lynch her

[Alisae]

nah
im not sayin a word
its late game
its time to get serious

[Alisae]

if you want hints
just read my iso
I'm sure its not that bad

[Alisae]

there is no more tracker shots

[Alisae]

HAHAHA KRAZY ALT SLIPPED

[Alisae]

YOU WERE DOING SO GOOD WITH THAT TOO

[Alisae]

also I'm not sure I am going to outpost Krazy this game
this makes me feel really sad.

[Alisae]

FL how do you like the banner?

[Alisae]

FL how do you like the banner?

Looks great. I love it so much. They’re brighter this year, aren’t they?

Boon’s got his own banner too, and it has hearts on it.

I told Datisi to make some parts of the brush lighter and some parts of the brush darker to give off the illusion of light.
They did a really good job with the banners this year and I'm proud of them.

[Alisae]

Why would the mods make a BP scum when the only town killing is a vengeful anyway? That makes no sense balance wise.

KEKW

[Alisae]

Don't forget RR is ascetic!

[Alisae]

Ankamius doesn’t have a single action confirmed on them thus far, and with a Disloyal Friendly Neighbor, it makes sense to have scum who has an Ascetic.

Or else you just never claim the disloyal part of the role, which could technically mean Espeonage is scum, because they’re also unconfirmable.

The last scum is part of the Ascetic puzzle

Seems much more likely that Alisae put ascetic enabler on Pine town to balance no scum ascetics but Alisae required them

OH
YOU'RE SAYING I PUT PINE'S ROLE IN BUT NOT EPSE'S

wow

[Alisae]

now tell me

WHY DOES NOBODY DIE ON THE NIGHT THAT GOBBLE WAS SUPPOSEDLY PROTECTED BY RR?

RR wifomed it and protected FL instead.

Either scum shot FL and TSE no venged OR scum no killed.

Scum RR doesn't likely no kill unless he's certain TSE dies in the near future.

You know what, TSE probably didn’t mean to no venge, they were probably just MIA the entire time, and straight up missed the timer.

THEY HAD 24 HOURS

[Alisae]

woops caps

[Alisae]

SHE WATCHES PINE KEKW

[Alisae]

@SW, @FL @OkaPoka

Are you guys fine locking Pine as town?

I am!

[Alisae]

@SW, @FL @OkaPoka

Are you guys fine locking Pine as town?

I am!

You should say no because you lose then.

not if he's scum!

[Alisae]

@SW, @FL @OkaPoka

Are you guys fine locking Pine as town?

I am!

You should say no because you lose then.

not if he's scum!

*pats*

Good luck Alisae.

I'm ready to move this along. Please start voting anyone but conftown or Pine.

If you don't wanna take me seriously, don't complain when you lose!

[Alisae]

Or it could just be RR...who I caught 3 days ago....

Or Ank...who i caught today...

Which one of my days is correct....that’s neat real neat

you look like you need some help
here, let me help you
you lynch one of them

[Alisae]

OkaPoka is in fact
not a time traveller

[Alisae]

TrueSoulEnergy - why would I ever draft someone who isn’t a team player
Pine - in theory ok to draft, in practice, well you see how that played out
Flavor Leaf - can’t solo carry and needs a team. If he has to solo carry then he can’t win.
Hectic - Not enough data, assumed he doesn’t want to play scum
OkaPoka - probably would die right away, doesn’t want to play scum
Espeonage - doesn’t want to play scum as indicated in the sign up thread
Bitmap - thought wanted to play scum, turns out, just having him on my team is an eye opening experience
Maki and Kaito (hydra of Maki Harukawa & Kaito Momota) - in theory ok, in practice doesn’t post
Sherlock and Watson (hydra of PenguinPower & Krazy) - both of these heads don’t want to play scum, and even then, they’re not good enough.
Frozen Angel - not reliable
Chemist1422 - not good enough
AaronFrost - in theory thought would like playing scum, turns out, doesn’t like playing scum
Spiffeh - just started playing again, too unreliable to draft, also probably doesn’t want to play scum
gobbledygook - not good enough
Ankamius - not good enough
Reasonably Rational (hydra of Cerberus v666 and Drixx) - in theory ok, in practice doesn’t post enough
Amrun - not enough data

[Alisae]

Thats my thoughts on the draft
Obviously I lost even before draft because I don’t think I can draft a team that actually wins this :/

[Alisae]

Obviously when drafting I thought “hey, Maria is amazing and Dunn and Bitmap have synergy to make something work”
So I built around that

[Alisae]

I was a plant from the start. However clever of me to not target a scum ever, lol.

we were hoping you would atleast check AF. That would be pretty much the only way we won this

[Alisae]

Like actually, the biggest problem I face here before the game even starts is I have a bunch of players who don’t want to play scum :/

[Alisae]

Also there are some people like Krazy or Alyssa, but in this playerlist, I feel like they get figured out.
Also there’s FL but I need to build a team around him. He cannot win games by himself in F3.

[Alisae]

Alisae I love playing as scum lol

Really, I thought you MUCH preferred playing town and disliked scum :/
Dam, unlucky ig

[Alisae]

Alisae I love playing as scum lol

Really, I thought you MUCH preferred playing town and disliked scum :/
Dam, unlucky ig

I prefer scum too.

Ok but in sign-ups you said you wanted to be town lol

[Alisae]

tbh I am honestly surprised you didn't draft to a game plan Ali. Like there are a number of routes you could have taken that would have created different teams.

There's strong mechanical players, strong social players, and strong theatre players. You couldn't have them all, but you defs could have had a clear route to victory then tried to dictate how things would look. I think you lost it in your roles though, not your draft.

I did draft a gameplan!
I would have bitmap hood M&K and use that hood to control the game, and then once someone flips in that hood, use hood wifom to gain control of the game

[Alisae]

Btw my rules were
Espe’s role obv
And nothing except anything Titus that can stop a kill or cause a kill to fail, I forgot the exact wording.

Not sure how I lost when I designed the scumteam, I have a bit of everything :/

[Alisae]

Ali can you link the scum discord?

when I get on a computer maybe

[Alisae]

I think picking at least one of Boon/Oka would have given you significantly more control of the thread though imo

-S

I wanted Oka a lot actually but he got picked up as soon as I picked up M&K
reflecting on the draft and what I remember of Oka, it wouldn’t seem like he would want to play scum

[Alisae]

Ig I’m delusional then!

[Alisae]

Btw my rules were
Espe’s role obv
And nothing except anything Titus that can stop a kill or cause a kill to fail, I forgot the exact wording.

Not sure how I lost when I designed the scumteam, I have a bit of everything :/

Like I don't mean to be critical. But your role choices were terrible.

They gave me everything I wanted hello?

[Alisae]

I just think you needed a spanner in the works. Like there was no usable bait for you other than my role which was super unreliable. I just think you needed something to waste days of time for time.

I don’t exactly think in this way.
I thought “What do I need” and gave myself what I needed

[Alisae]

I woulda picked 4 goons and said mods don't u fukk me

-S

I like designing things

[Alisae]

Pick 4 traitors and tell the mods make it mountainous you cowards

Pedit: what hectic said

You realize that’s not actually fun to play, right?

[Alisae]

You're playing to win, not to have fun.

Yeaaaaaah, this is where I disagree with u my guy

[Alisae]

https://discord.gg/6ZpAXKR

[Alisae]

Alisae, theoretically can’t you design like 80% of the game total?

Make a rule that there has to be 4 watchers in the game and then another rule there has to be 4 vigilantes.

I mean I could
I probably wouldn't but I could

gobbledygook - not good enough

:oooo

Beat u as scum, and town

not good enough

:ooo

when did you beat me as scum again?

[Alisae]

Alisae, theoretically can’t you design like 80% of the game total?

Make a rule that there has to be 4 watchers in the game and then another rule there has to be 4 vigilantes.

I mean I could
I probably wouldn't but I could

gobbledygook - not good enough

:oooo

Beat u as scum, and town

not good enough

:ooo

when did you beat me as scum again?

The game you nommed for a scummy foooool

I wasn't alive when you rep'd in that doesn't count

[Alisae]

not good enough

my definition of "not good enough" was "not good enough to win F3"

[Alisae]

Titus
I don't know why you keep on justifying Bitmap as a good draft, he's awful
he doesn't actually know how to play scum

he's a terrible draft

[Alisae]

Titus
I don't know why you keep on justifying Bitmap as a good draft, he's awful
he doesn't actually know how to play scum

he's a terrible draft

Bitmap would be used to monitor my emotional state. Seeing me face to face, he can definitely know when I'm bluffing or not. Sure he might need protection but if you control the emotional tenor of the thread, he'd have it.

I tried teaching him how to play scum that didn't exactly work

[Alisae]

Alisae, theoretically can’t you design like 80% of the game total?

Make a rule that there has to be 4 watchers in the game and then another rule there has to be 4 vigilantes.

I mean I could
I probably wouldn't but I could

gobbledygook - not good enough

:oooo

Beat u as scum, and town

not good enough

:ooo

when did you beat me as scum again?

The game you nommed for a scummy foooool

I wasn't alive when you rep'd in that doesn't count

Shhhhh

Also didn't my team beat yours in white flag?

[Alisae]

I dunno, who were your teammates

Cheeky and Pops

[Alisae]

@Drixx,

I did have the one shot vig left. It was a strongman too. Technically, I made myself novice so I could not use my vig night one. This game was about avoiding disaster.

wait a minute, thats not normal!

[Alisae]

CHET
CHET

[Alisae]

@Drixx,

I did have the one shot vig left. It was a strongman too. Technically, I made myself novice so I could not use my vig night one. This game was about avoiding disaster.

wait a minute, thats not normal!

It is normal just not explicitly so.

Strongman isn't something that can be attached to a town role in normal games
CHET
CHET

[Alisae]

Strongman isn't something that can be attached to a town role in normal games

Good thing the rules were worded so that players had fully Normal roles, and Titus could have

any

combination of Normal roles and modifiers

CHET
CHET

[Alisae]

also really liking the azelf representation something_smart!

[Alisae]

Azelf is definitely my favorite out of the lake trio

[Alisae]

AF tired and Drixx + Cerb did well
M&K could have done better
and bitmap idunno :/

[Alisae]

I don't think I ever want to be a treestump again tbh

[Alisae]

I would rather just be scum and play normally

[Alisae]

I can get pretty toxic in the scum PT sometimes.

[Alisae]

I had my fill of treestump games after AvP, or atleast being the treestump.
tbh I really didn't want to do this challenge but I didn't want to pussy out of a duel.

[Alisae]

SS u should rotate ur azelf so that it faces the post

[Alisae]

ooh now if there are going to be more vs games happening count me in to play in those, I just don't wanna be a treestump

[Alisae]

im still gonna be eating a lot of turkey 2nite

[Alisae]

don't pre-in me.
Unless the dam thing fills w/in 12 hours, I'll see it (probably)

[Alisae]

also allow hydras!