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kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:26 am

In post 6446, Ankamius wrote:Can maria and kuribo confirm the neighborhood being empty of posts the last day and night?

literally, LITERALLY the very last post in the PT is me ME on Feb 9

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:28 am

How the fuck you gonna throw some stuff about to defend yourself with real life stuff and just gloss over the fact that I was fucking VLA when the game went to night phase dude, what the fuck is that?

I spent that fucking weekend moving and then my cat went missing, and you're gonna fucking shade me for not posting during the night phase?

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:30 am

In post 6442, panthaleon wrote:kuribo - my town read on kuribo had severely degraded. Similar to Maria, he wasn't around in the neighborhood last night and hasn't really been there at all today. I don't really buy the rage since I haven't seen him try to push anyone with it. I feel like some point in the list few weeks he would try to flex 12 years of prowess to actually wagon someone, and I don't understand why that hasn't happened.

and not only that but in what fucking world am I not wagoning Ank?

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:36 am

You wanna know where I was when the game went to fucking night

HERE YOU FUCKING GO

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:38 am

IM FUCKING SORRY IF LOOKING FOR MY FUCKING CAT AND TRYING TK CONSIME
MY GOD DAMN FIANCÉE WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOME SHITTY PT

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:40 am

In post 6457, panthaleon wrote:Tbf I woke up like half an hour ago and figured I should participate instead of not. I also vibe bad with the attacks on you. Like I guess you could be scum, but I really feel like scum would be more comfortable just letting the town aimlessly drift.

PEDIT
Mr the kuribo I know that your cat was missing and I'm sorry that happened. That doesn't really change how the game has felt

Man I fucking posted in the thread here that my mood was shit since my cat had gone missing

It's disingenuous to Fucking act like I never mentioned it

And doubly Fucking so to pretend I wasn't VLA

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:40 am

Fuck this game and fuck each and every person in it

I hope to fucking god none of y'all ever lose a pet. You fucks.

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:44 am

Lie no let's walk this shit back, that fucking kitten meant a lot to me and my fiancée

She picked that cat out after my fucking companion cat of fourteen Fucking years died

This poor Fucking kitten has abandonment issues because she was found at four Fucking weeks literally living motherless in a pile of trash

So then we move to a bigger apartment and the VERY NEXT FUCKING DAY she disappears and hasn't been seen since! Without a Fucking trace!

You think I'm emotional about it? My fucking fiancée brings it up every god damn day, and she knows I'm not ready to get yet another kitten after losing TWO cats in less than a fucking year.

But nooooo its scummy that I didn't take the time out of my day during this crisis to pontificate with you and Maria about some shit that didn't even fucking matter to begin with.

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:47 am

In post 6461, panthaleon wrote:My dude can we maybe take a breather. This isn't intended to be a personal slight or anything, and your rage send disproportionate to the claim at hand

YOURE FUCKING THROWING SHADE AT ME FOR PERSONAL ISSUES RHAT I FUCKING CLEARLY SPOKE OF IN THE FUCKING THREAD

AND YOU CALL THAT DISPROPORTIONATE?

the only reason I'm not WORSE is because I've already been warned by admins for name calling!

Im legit pacing in my fucking kitchen shaking furious at your disingenuous ass

We ain't taking a breather for shit, we going to fuckin war cuz you opened up a stupidass can of dogshit

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:48 am

In post 6463, panthaleon wrote:See what feels like is happening here is you're taking authentic frustration from a shitty real life situation, and pointing it into the game. I do not doubt that the cat meant a lot to you, but that's not really the bulk of what I was commenting on

YOU FUCKING BROUGHT THAT PERSONAL SHIT INTO THE GAME

YOU FUCKING QUESTIONED WHY I DIENT TALK IN THE PT WHEN EVERYONE IN THIS GOD DAMN THREAD KNEW I WAS VLA

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:55 am

It's not fucking contrived you greasy little thing, you're literally shading me for the most bullshjt of reasons and you don't understand why I'd be pissed off?

I can't read maria worth a damn, never could, just figured it'd be easier to figure her out later

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:55 am

How the Fuck would you feel if some dumbfuck was shading you for not posting when you've been looking for your god damn cat and trying to get your house moved

You're full of shit if you don't think you'd be mad

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:57 am

What kind of asshole shades someone for not posting while they're VLA?

Honestly panth, the part that pisses me off most is that I always thought you were a decent person, I like most of your posts outside of mafia, we share similar viewpoints about life, etc

So EXFUCKINGCUSE ME if it surprises me that you'd try to toss some soft accusations about me when you KNEW the game wasn't my priority

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:00 am

The. You shouldn't have fucking taking a shot at my personal character

That's what happens when you fucking take shots at people for not posting during a mod-acknowledged VLA

that's some pretty personal bullshit too dude

kuribo · Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:03 am

You know what, for you Gamma I'll chill. I haven't slept in two days, I just worked my fourth double shift in a week, I'm stressed I'm exhausted and the only reason I haven't quit this shitshow is because I made a promise to Pine

@mod VLA until February 14

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:17 pm

In post 6559, panthaleon wrote:My dudes I'm not scum. But like w/e this game hasn't been fun, the last time I posted I got screamed down by kuribo, and I'm coming off of frustrating real life nonsense.

VOTE: kuribo

This game had been a shameful display of incomprehensibly poor and anti town play. Whoever you town folks are, I am disappointed.

Oh but real life stuff can't possibly be the reason for you not posting or being "off" since that's why you claim to scumread me

Xtoxm pointed out how scummy as fuck it is to try and claim a scumread on someone for not posting during VLA

you god damn right you got yelled at because you pulled a bullshit move that runs counter to fucking years of mafiascum etiquette

Now this is the last I'm gonna say in the subject, since you're going through some shit and unlike you I have some Fucking decency.

Ank/DEB/panth

I'll vote any of those three and that's it.

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:35 pm

In post 6525, Ankamius wrote:Ok so fake rage and endless discrediting doesn't work

Even if the rage was fake, and it's not, but no one expects better of you, that doesn't make me scum. It'd be kayfabe. But if you can't tell the difference between my playful rage and my hateful rage you got some learning to do. It's not a fucking scumtell, you can read a hundred of my fucking town games and see the same shit you're calling scummy. Been there done that and still standing.

Discrediting? How the fuck you think someone responds when you attack them nonstop for NAI shit, the same NAI shit I've had to defend myself for for twelve fuckin years? Am I suppose to say OHO YOYRE PUSHING ME FOR BULLSHIT GUESS ILL TAKE MY ROPE WELL PLAYED SCUM? Eh-eh, not never. You're "scumreading" me for posting like myself and daring to defend your bullshit attacks. And I know god damn well Town doesn't play that way. I might not be the best at parrying against bullshit attacks, but I damn sure don't have to watch them happen.

Next time go for the head and put one in my skull at night.

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:49 pm

Well it's a good thing you're not town cause if you were your tunnel would be railroading the game off a cliff

But keep bragging about how Town is fucked

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:51 pm

If you were town you wouldn't be posting bullshjt theories about me defending my own buddies, you'd be voting with me knowing how hard I bus

That's where you fucked up this game

You tried pushing me using my fucking town game as an excuse to claim a scum read

And you can try to cry about discrediting but I ain't never in any world letting that shit slide

When you get to hell, tell them Kuribo sent you.

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:55 pm

In post 6569, Ankamius wrote:kuribo

you've been fucking useless all game

don't even give me shit

Better useless than a scumfuck

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:55 pm

Ank cant even pretend to scum read me long enough to not admit that I'm "useless" instead of scum

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:56 pm

In post 6568, Ankamius wrote:you're bitching about me tunneling when:

1. you've been up my ass endlessly for 2 full days now
2. almost50 fucking fell apart at the seams at the slightest hint that I wasn't townreading him
3. nomnomnom fell apart at the pressure on her and has done nothing since
4. panth and gamma spent a lot of the last two days up nom's ass endlessly

you can fuck off with that argument

At least we agree panth can go fuck himself

kuribo · Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:57 pm

In post 6573, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Lol @rage
Still spouting that nom should die.

This isn't even rage you shit stirring scumfuck

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:31 am

In post 6607, nomnomnom wrote:can I have a list of people who said they would vote DEB these last days I'm actually curious

UNVOTE:

I'll gladly start that ball rolling.

Unvote

Vote: Dr. Easy Bake

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:29 pm

In post 6611, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 6609, kuribo wrote:
In post 6607, nomnomnom wrote:can I have a list of people who said they would vote DEB these last days I'm actually curious

UNVOTE:
I'll gladly start that ball rolling.

Unvote

Vote: Dr. Easy Bake

I'm not talking about voting I'm asking for a list of people that said they would vote DEB
it's for analysis

I'm townreading you.

I'm scumreading DEB

if I can get a scumread lynched instead of you, I'll be all the happier

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:51 pm

In post 6632, Flavor Leaf wrote:Highly highly scum controlled wagons.

A50 is town

Nom is town

I'm town

Does not compute

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:53 pm

In post 6630, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 6603, Almost50 wrote:
In post 6583, EspressoPatronum wrote:A guy I used to play with often took a list of everyone's reads to see who floated to the top.

If everyone could humour me for a bit, can you please fill in your top 3 scumreads? It doesn't necessarily have to be a 3-team solve... just 3 ppl who you scumread independently.

Ankamius -
Dr Easy Bake -
Flavor Leaf -
davesaz -
panthaleon -
MariaR -
Gammagooey -
kuribo -
Firebringer -
EspressoPatronum - nom/Ank/MariaR
Almost50 -
nomnomnom -
DEB/Ank/Panth

Today's tinfoil: EP is Scum collecting reads to decide on the NK.

Join us next week in a new tinfoil fresh out of the monkey's ass.
I have literally been pushing Panth the majority of this day phase, whilst arguing with Ankamius.

I'm willing to lynch either of those scumfucks too

But re: Ank, I'm like Sisyphus pushing a bolder in hell trying to get her scummy ass rope

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:03 pm

In post 6637, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 6635, kuribo wrote:
In post 6632, Flavor Leaf wrote:Highly highly scum controlled wagons.

A50 is town

Nom is town

I'm town

Does not compute
Why is A50 town?

Also, you and Nomnom are 100% not in control of these wagons.

A50 is town because I like his play, I empathize with the mindset shown, I can see where the reads come from a town place, I don't see scum proxying their vote to me, nor do I see scum in A50's outing of their group.

I get a good townie vibe from A50

Which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for DEB

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:04 pm

In post 6642, Flavor Leaf wrote:You know what, i don’t care about the team.

Now you're on the trolley

I don't need a solve
I need one scum at a time

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:15 pm

I'd still rather lynch scum

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:21 pm

I'll compromise this once because you're probably town and panth is scum anyway

Xtoxm has also told me panth has more scum equity than DEB. Said not to get caught up in hating the playstyle. I asked if me scumreading panth is just me being pissed off, but Xtoxm doesn't think so.

unvote

Vote: panth

Pedit: ooooo that's an interesting shot

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:44 pm

Whether she's scum or not i want you to know you've basically set panth up to spend the night being verbally abused

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:45 pm

Also nom I may not forgive you for not shooting me and ending my misery here

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:50 pm

Actually I'm looking forward to spending 48 hours screaming at panth

ESP since he claims not talking in the PT at night is scummy so he best respond a lottttttttt

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:02 pm

In post 6678, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 6673, kuribo wrote:Whether she's scum or not i want you to know you've basically set panth up to spend the night being verbally abused
Panth is scum regardless.

oh, you god damn right on that, but one of the things i love most is taunting scum

getting to do it in private is like an early birthday

OH btw, if I die tonight, I just want everyone to know, my cat turned up safe and sound on Thursday.

She was in the building's heating ducts for two weeks and hadn't been able to find her way out. One of the neighbors' cats was pawing at the vent in their apartment and when they went to look at what was going on, my cat was behind their vent cover. So when my fiancee came home, the neighbor asked if that was our cat.

So right now, Pepper is trying to steal Doritos from me. Bless her tiny little heart.

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:28 pm

In post 6689, Ankamius wrote:so I was right, nom is town

You've literally called every player town or scum at this point.

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:29 pm

In post 6689, Ankamius wrote:so I was right, nom is town

I've been fucking telling you for over three days now that slot was town, and your scumass used it as an excuse to call me scum with me.

Y'all best merk me tonight.

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:29 pm

*call me scum with her

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:33 pm

In post 6689, Ankamius wrote:so I was right, nom is town

In post 6403, Ankamius wrote:nom+kuribo+dave*

In post 6689, Ankamius wrote:so I was right, nom is town

In post 6581, Ankamius wrote:EC is still telling me to vote nom

VOTE: nomnomnom

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:35 pm

Real freakin' easy to say "Oh, I was right, nom's town" when you were literally one of the MAIN PEOPLE pushing that gat dam wagon until suddenly you weren't. Two hundred posts between you naming nom my scumbuddy and then deciding you needed to distance yourself from the wagon, ONLY TO HOP BACK ON AND BLAME EDDIE

Her blood is on YOUR HANDS ANK.

I'mma avenge nom just like I promised I would if y'all lynched her, so do yourself a favor and finish me off tonight.

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:42 pm

Just because you don't like the fact I'm on to you doesn't mean it's not useful.

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:43 pm

You spent DAYS calling me scum with nom and then when she finally dies, you go "OH I WAS RIGHT"

Pointing out your hypocrisy is useful as hell, just not to you or your buddies.

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:45 pm

In post 6698, nomnomnom wrote:well I should have shot Ank

no

fucking

shit

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:48 pm

Ank has literally bragged repeatedly about how it's gonna be a perfect scum win under the guise of being depressed about it

Ank has repeatedly falsified scum reads on people and changed them with the wind.

Ank has tried to take credit for townreading nom after DAYS of pushing that wagon

Ank has tried to claim a scumread on me because I dare to defend myself against her weak-ass attacks

Ank has called every single person in this game some variation of scum--- except DEB and FB--- because she can't keep straight who she should be pushing and who she shouldn't.

Ank has called for the death of an uncounterclaimed investigative (dave)

As sure as she's a coward, she deserves rope whether I live through tonight or not. I fuckin refuse to sit back at the end of Team Mafia, watch scum get a win and go OH OHO AT LEAST ANK PLAYED WELL!

Because like hell she did. She's obvscum from the get-go.

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:49 pm

OH! Ank literally spent days calling nom scum, then called her town, AND VOTED TO LYNCH HER ANYWAY AND BLAMING EDDIE

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:50 pm

how the fuck is THAT for useful, Ank, you scumfuck?

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:54 pm

In post 6569, Ankamius wrote:kuribo

you've been fucking useless all game

don't even give me shit

OH

and one more thing

she KNOWS i'm town or she'd be calling me scum instead of useless

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:00 pm

I swear to god y'all if Ank kills me tonight and y'all ignore these posts, I'mma have my ghost haunt y'all for a thousand years

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:04 pm

In post 6706, Ankamius wrote:looooooool

ok kuribo

one two, kuri comin' for you
three four, get ready for war
five six, pull out all your tricks
seven eight, gonna seal your fate
nine ten, never come at him again

kuribo · Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:05 pm

In post 6707, Ankamius wrote:you're the single worst case of not reading my posts I've ever fucking seen on this site

I still maintain that I hope you're scum solely because I refuse to believe you're that bad

my problem is that I've been reading your posts because you just keep putting that shit out there for all the world to see

don't worry bb, i've caught better scum than you

you don't even get to have your head on my trophy case

kuribo · Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:19 pm

In post 6717, Flavor Leaf wrote:Panth, Dave, A50 is where I’m at.

I feel like this is where our reads are going to part ways

I feel a little better about panth now that Maria has flipped scum

But I could be biased because of the fact that panth and I had some unpleasantness and I've lost my hard-on for his death

kuribo · Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:21 pm

In post 6716, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 6712, Sir Elton Hercules John wrote:nomnomnom (7): Gammagooey, DEB, EspressoPatronum, Ankamius, Firebringer, Flavor Leaf, nomnomnom
I can actually see this being mostly if not all town.

Ank/Firebringer is where I’m thinking scum are, but I don’t think they both are.

I feel scum probably were staying off of Nomnom because fear of getting shot.

ank called nom scum for days, came off late the day of the lynch, and then voted her despite claiming to town read her.

Ank will try to "discredit" this as she says but the facts are still evident for anyone that cares to look

kuribo · Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:32 pm

In post 6732, Almost50 wrote:Impressive! *Slow clapping*

I'll wait for people to out their votes/actions last night though. We obviously didn't vote to silence anyone.

Wouldn't have mattered if you had, I again voted to block your ability (Ank's to be specific) and I told panth so. He agreed that he would be voting Ank as well.

I told y'all two days ago neither of you would be able to use that ability again and I meant it.

kuribo · Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:57 am

vote: Flavor Leaf

I'm bout to head into work, but on my break I'll share some stuff Xtoxm posted about FL this morning

kuribo · Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:58 am

unvote

Hold up no shenanigans till then

kuribo · Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:40 am

Okay, I promised Xtoxm's thoughts, and his case against Flavor Leaf, and here it is:

He said that FL made what looks like a scumslip in the wrong PT. He says this is supporting evidence that the scumsllip is real. The other player implicated in the scumslip, Maria, has flipped scum. This also supports the scumslip being real. Xtoxm says that although he believes that actual scumslips are rare, the fact that FL has done it before shows that history is on the side of it having happened again.

He also said that regarding no deaths last night, that FL has a history of dropping the no-kill gambit. He said that if FL is scum, this strongly points to Gamma being the buddy because FL was trying to use that to clear Gamma. He also questions why the doc hood seems to have never been targeted at night, though he calls that only weak evidence that the doc hood contains scum. He also pointed out that I myself have a well-documented history of allowing scum to buddy me and townreading them as a result. This leads to me spinning my wheels and screaming at people left and right while scum either does nothing or pockets me. He said this is what he feels FL has done here.

Xtoxm's reads are as follows:

{Almost50, EP}
{Davesaz}
{panth, deb}
{FB, Ank}
{FL, Gamma}

Xtoxm moved Ank down from the middle because she's in a hood that has flipped only town so far and is far less townie than A50.

My own reads differ from Xtoxm's slightly in that I'd move DEB down at least one notch, if not two. I read Gamma mostly town by play, but if FL is scum, I'm going to have to re-evaluate this.

kuribo · Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:42 am

Vote: Flavor Leaf

This is where this goes.

kuribo · Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:40 am

you know

that actually makes a lot of sense

kuribo · Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:05 am

Real quick before I go back to work, I thought I'd summarize our neighborhood:

Spoiler:

This is taking longer than I thought, if I can't finish before I leave for work, I'll finish tonight.

kuribo · Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:28 am

Spoiler:

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:24 am

Let's see what happened while I was at work

oh good lord

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:29 am

In post 6929, Flavor Leaf wrote:This game proves it.

People are just afraid of ScumFL because “can’t let FL get away with it! Worth losing the game over to make sure.”

That doesn't seem to be why you're getting lynched at all. I don't think I've seen a single person say "Oh, we need to lynch him because he's good as scum."

It's more like what Xtoxm said: You have a history of fucking up in PTs, and it very strongly looks like you fucked up in this game too.

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:40 am

In post 6959, Gammagooey wrote:FL has been spamposting enormously in what I think is just him trying to draw the conversation to literally anything except the slip to EP because I genuinely don't think it's convincingly defendable as making more sense coming from town than scum by him

I don't think that's what he's doing at all. I think he feels like he's caught for the wrong reasons and he's trying to throw as much out there and see what can stick while defending himself. I do believe his frustration here is genuine, but I think he's a player that takes pride in his scum game-- look how many times he references his infamy as a scum player-- and is pissed with himself for fucking up what was a good scum game up until that point.

In post 6959, Gammagooey wrote:kuribo's kinda the same - he's BELIEVED in his town read on nom imo and his anger is not fake regardless of his alignment and he's been passionate and invested in the game and how it's been going.

god knows I wish i wasn't invested in this, but at this point I've put too much time and energy into this to not see it through.

In post 6962, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also?!?!? I HAVENT DUMPED A LOT OF EFFORT AND EMOTION INTO THIS GAME?!?!

I'll agree with FL on this. I think that's why the emotion now-- he's put a LOT of work into this game and now it's falling apart. And Team Mafia is the biggest stage on the site.

In post 6971, panthaleon wrote:I'm having a difficult time understanding the scum read on FL. Take with a grain of salt that I usually town read people that scum read me, but the severe arrogance and demanding the spotlight don't read to me like scum trying to close out the game. It reads as town upset no one is listening to him.

I mean, it's not rocket science:

He apparently addressed Maria in his neighborhood PT.
He did not deny the wording as expressed by EP, only the meaning.
Maria flipped scum.
Flavor Leaf has gotten PTs mixed up before and won because he talked his way out of it.
It's extremely likely he slipped again.
He's not trying to close the game, he's trying to flail his way out of being caught for a mistake on his part.

Frankly, I think Maria's death wasn't expected by FL, and now he's trying to fix the house of cards that's fallen around it.

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:29 am

In post 7011, EspressoPatronum wrote:@Ank
@A50
@DEB
@Gamma
@kuribo
@panth

Assuming FL is lynched today, do you accept 7001 and 7009, in that you should abstain from your action tonight?

I want everyone to be fully aware so there's no potential "oh I didn't know" tomorrow.

I'm fine with abstaining because it'll become immediately apparent if Ank or A50 doesn't

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:43 am

How quickly they betray you when you climb out of their pockets

You're better than that FL

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:50 am

That's the aforementioned climbing out of your pocket

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:53 am

It's also cute that you claim I was somehow fueling the fire between you and ank

I coulda gave a shit about you and ank, I had my own fires going on over there

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:54 am

In post 7028, Flavor Leaf wrote:Y’all, I’m gonna flip town, and you go into tomorrow with the doctor hood dead, something we all already knew didn’t have scum in them.

The other doctor in your group is literally calling you scum.

Is EP scum or just mistaken?

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:58 am

So from the looks of things, your "solve" right now is me, panth, Maria were all scum in the same hood and that A50 is scum, and DEB might be scum with the four of us? You seem to discount A50 being scum in the same group but you're fine calling me, panth, and Maria all scum from the same group.

And this is why I feel like you're just trying to flail away the votes.

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:59 am

Let me clarify, you discount Ank as scum, calling A50 the scum in that group.

But three scum in my group is something you'll entertain?

kuribo · Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:03 am

In post 7036, Flavor Leaf wrote:Kuribo/Panth arent S/S, someone’s pocketing the other.

So am I pocketing him by verbally abusing him to the point of him threatening to report me? Or is he pocketing me by calling me scum in a way that personally angered me?

kuribo · Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:26 am

Man, I feel like I have questions for Dave but it's been a rough weekend and I'm trying to catch up on sleep for once, so I'm not quite sure how to ask him what I want to ask him.

kuribo · Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:29 am

In post 7149, Gammagooey wrote:ok

if you are so concerned with how scary you look to scum that trying to play it optimally is more worth it than laying everything on the table to make sure people can actually read you and make sure you don't get mislynched

why in the fuck did you post this instead of just shutting the hell up and making scum wonder whether or not you still had a watcher shot and hopefully get the scum to no-kill to avoid getting caught last night?
In post 7005, davesaz wrote:Hey EP,

Hypothetically, what if I already watched the doctor I'm more townreading (the one not named FL) a couple nights ago? Advice for that case needs to be covered too. Hypothetically...

actually, that's a good start, and I'll live vicariously through Gamma right now

kuribo · Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:21 am

In post 7152, davesaz wrote:Because at that point in time there were almost as many people voting me as scum.
I tol you asshats to shut the fuck up and you kept picking...

You must have me fucked up with some other asshat cause I don't remember picking at you, nor asking you to vague post

I liked that you were playing close to the vest and I said so, repeatedly

Publicly stating what you're doing and hiding it under "hypotheticals" is not playing it close to the vest

kuribo · Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:22 am

Like the point is, there's no town reason to publicly say essentially "Hey I know there's likely to be a lightning rod tonight and wouldn't it be great if scum thinks I've still got my watch, but I totally don't! Whoops! Hypothetically."

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:17 am

In post 7200, Almost50 wrote:Amrun isn't as confident in Town!kuribo

Remind Amrun please that she's spent the better part of almost a decade telling people she can't read me well and it's just paranoia

Also Catch-22 Mafia was like seven years ago

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:22 am

DEB is the blatant lurkaderp scum (there's always one)

It annoys the piss out of me how many of you people defended him by saying "but he always plays like this." Ank, looking at you. That's what you said.

Like okay maybe he always plays like that but it don't damn well make him town for it. If I can't get a read on a slot because it's barely playing, what good is it?

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:23 am

In post 7199, Gammagooey wrote:Titus VCA you said she wanted to talk about after a scum flip happened

How many freakin times has DEB been asked for a titus VCA right here in this thread tho

Like literally it's one thing he can bring to the table and he hasn't even done that

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:24 am

In post 7205, davesaz wrote:General rules of how towns work are getting completely ignored.

Most towns don't have investigative abilities that can be any alignment and that are determined by who's still alive in a neighborhood

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:10 am

In post 7210, Dr Easy Bake wrote:I won’t respond well to your silly anger. Bring it down a few notches.

This is like a two, my post isn't anywhere near angry.

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:36 am

In post 7222, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: DEB

Time to finish the game who wants honors of hammer

Always me

I haven't gotten to give a hammer speech in months

Anyone else got anything to say to the condemned?

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:37 am

In post 7223, Gammagooey wrote:meh

I'd still rather see more from panth & DEB before lynching

it'd also be nice if dave could stop just talking past me and engage me about why he's thought what he has at various points in the game but if all of ya'll voting DEB+one more think that DEB is the most likely scum out of anyone in the game then I guess it's fine

I'm willing to wait until Gamma is ready

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:40 am

In post 7209, Almost50 wrote:@kuribo: Amrun says you & her are spirit animals and that she never wants to scumread you

Yup sounds like amrun to me <3

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:49 am

In post 7219, davesaz wrote:If scum win it will be because FL "conftowned" Gammagoey.
This is my postgame "told you so" post.

VOTE: DEB

If you think Gamma is scum, why are you lynching DEB and making Gamma bulletproof?

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:54 am

In post 7228, Gammagooey wrote:DEB said he was energized by the FL lynch, let's give him one day to actually give any last thoughts that he has or that his team wants to pass along (and I won't be a cheeky fuck and steal your hammer)

I leave for work at 2pm EST tomorrow, so that's just around 22 hours. At that time, if the hammer is still in my hand, I

will

send DEB to hell.

Let the countdown to murder begin!

Clock's ticking for the condemned.

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:55 am

I do want to know what Dave is trying to accomplish calling DEB scum and Gamma scum with him though

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:57 am

Oh and btw everyone else

The usual rules apply in this game: stealing my hammer and ending the day early is tantamount to a scum claim.

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:05 am

In post 7232, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: DEB

You almost had me with that one

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:06 am

In post 7233, Gammagooey wrote:mmm

tasty murder clocks

It's like a Murdercock with a timer

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:07 am

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:10 pm

In post 7239, davesaz wrote:
In post 7230, kuribo wrote:I do want to know what Dave is trying to accomplish calling DEB scum and Gamma scum with him though
Don't hurt yourself too much making assumptions.
Where does "with" come from?

.... because if you're trying to lynch scum

And voting DEB

and also calling Gamma scum

And it isn't multiball that we know of

Wouldn't that imply them being scum together?

kuribo · Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:10 pm

In post 7238, davesaz wrote:
In post 7227, kuribo wrote:If you think Gamma is scum, why are you lynching DEB and making Gamma bulletproof?
Is there the slightest chance what I think matters in this case?

If it didn't, I wouldn't ask

kuribo · Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:57 am

In post 7246, davesaz wrote:
In post 7244, kuribo wrote:
In post 7239, davesaz wrote:
In post 7230, kuribo wrote:I do want to know what Dave is trying to accomplish calling DEB scum and Gamma scum with him though
Don't hurt yourself too much making assumptions.
Where does "with" come from?

.... because if you're trying to lynch scum

And voting DEB

and also calling Gamma scum

And it isn't multiball that we know of

Wouldn't that imply them being scum together?
You do realize it's possible to have more scumreads than there are scum?
Two independent things. You're the one saying that two scumreads implies they're scum together, not me.

Maybe I misinterpreted your statements then, my bad

It just felt like you were shading Gamma in a situation where there's very little likelihood of them both being scum.

kuribo · Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:57 am

In post 7247, Dr Easy Bake wrote:From MathBlade to Ank and A50:
Win/Lose I've got a rule that each person plays their slot. So far you’re both coming around to the other person being town. I am shitty on scumreads but good on town. Can you like just town hunt then nuke in PoE?

Tick tock, Clarice.

kuribo · Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:25 am

If the condemned has any last words, or anyone else for that matter, he has about 35 minutes.

kuribo · Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:24 am

Doctor Easy Bake, this town has found you GUILTY of murder, conspiracy to commit murder, perjury under the oath of citizenship, and evasion of justice.

For these crimes against the good people of Gay Mafia IV, I hereby sentence you to sudden, instant, and even immediate... DEATH. With the power vested in me by the aforementioned people, as well as the Devil Himself, i hereby carry out your sentence.

Furthermore, in the name of our infernal father, I hereby remove you from the sight of god and condemn your soul to the everlasting torment of the Dead PT. When you get to hell, tell them Kuribo sent you.

vote: Dr. Easy Bake

kuribo · Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:25 am

In post 7253, Gammagooey wrote:

yeah DEB hammer is all yours

maybe I'll be wrong about there being 4 mafia and we'll just win, that'd be nice

god I hope so

kuribo · Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:20 am

Not gonna lie the hammer speeches are more fun when the mod closes the thread for the flip right after

kuribo · Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:40 pm

In post 7258, Dr Easy Bake wrote:Lol fuck you kuribo, I might be loved.
Also, use vote tags you nerd.
Eh, someone will probably just hammer me anyway.
I don’t think there is anything I could have said to change this outcome.
Whatever, I’m over it. Good luck people.

Until the mod gets here or the actual hammer happens:

You've robbed me of my glory and I will never forgive this

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:39 pm

In post 7272, Firebringer wrote:ive been told that last scum is kuribo, but idk if no death changes that or anything.

rc thought we would be dead.

RC is an idiot.

You're putting your faith in an idiot with whom I have personal animosity that goes both ways

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:42 pm

Like there's a reason I intentionally avoid playing with RC, and it's because we don't like each other

So by all means keep making yourself a proxy for his toxic ass bullshit

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 4:59 pm

In post 7291, Firebringer wrote:@kuribo
u know rc never mentions any hatred of u. I am sure he isn't a fan but like everytime he comes up you go on to keep saying u hate him and its mutual and that he is a toxic, but he never says anything about how ur being toxic or constantly talk about how much he dislikes you.

nothing.

maybe you should get over ur hate of him because he clearly doesn't care that you hate him. In fact you don't even phase him. If you want to piss him off you should be insulting his skills. That's what he cares about.

I don't know what you think you accomplish with your anger at him. Because it doesn't bug RC, it doesn't change my opinion, and I don't think anyone else cares that you don't like him.

if its just to vent i guess go for it but ehh i think u could find a better outlet for it.

Then maybe I'm wrong and it's one sided

But we can also point to activities in this very game:

Who's idea was it to, by your own admission, intentionally antagonize me and then call me scum for getting pissed off about it?

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:36 pm

In post 7299, davesaz wrote:RC being surprised your slot is alive is just hilarious.

It's even funnier when you consider that everyone who's tried to push me as scum is still alive

FB been calling me scum for days but nope guess I'm still scum who doesn't know enough to kill him or ank hurpdiddyderp

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:38 pm

News flash FB, if you're town you're alive because your play is spamtastic, your reads are garbage, and scum has you pocketed because you've got exactly one scumread that you've held for days

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:40 pm

In post 7317, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7315, kuribo wrote:
In post 7299, davesaz wrote:RC being surprised your slot is alive is just hilarious.

It's even funnier when you consider that everyone who's tried to push me as scum is still alive

FB been calling me scum for days but nope guess I'm still scum who doesn't know enough to kill him or ank hurpdiddyderp
i mean...we have 2 no kills also?

Ah, so your theory is that in order to set up an endgame for myself, I no killed a bunch of times instead of murdering people who think I'm scum

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:40 pm

In post 7319, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7318, kuribo wrote:News flash FB, if you're town you're alive because your play is spamtastic, your reads are garbage, and scum has you pocketed because you've got exactly one scumread that you've held for days
but scum hasn't been killing anyone.....

Which if you knew anything about me, you'd know I eliminate threats to myself first and foremost

I literally even made a flow chart about it

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:47 pm

In post 7323, panthaleon wrote:I mean firebringer is the weakest scum vibe I could have for the whole getting removed from the neighborhood with nom thing.

kuribo you had thought dave was scummy for awhile. Is that still something you feel?

I go back and forth on him, he's not my strongest scum read by far but he's not nearly my biggest townread either

Some of his stuff the last couple days makes me worry and I believe I've addressed that. Correct me please if I'm wrong.

His stuff today so far looks mostly fine though

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:06 pm

In post 7327, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7321, kuribo wrote:
In post 7319, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7318, kuribo wrote:News flash FB, if you're town you're alive because your play is spamtastic, your reads are garbage, and scum has you pocketed because you've got exactly one scumread that you've held for days
but scum hasn't been killing anyone.....

Which if you knew anything about me, you'd know I eliminate threats to myself first and foremost

I literally even made a flow chart about it
RC wants to know why you would kill us if he sucks, and I suck. How would we be a threat to you?

That question makes absolutely no sense

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:08 pm

Like I don't have to explain to you FB that a town player calling scum scum is a threat to that scum

Likewise I don't have to explain that if you're town, you suck because you're scum reading me

kuribo · Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:09 pm

Like not even just sucking because of scumreading me

But because your entire play has been asstacular garbage

Like from the word go

And I'm still salty about that bullshit where you said you baited me just so you could be all lol fake rage

You know what's manipulative as hell? Baiting people's emotions. Now where's the town motivation in that dude

kuribo · Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:37 am

In post 7344, Almost50 wrote:@kuribo: One more time, please. Can you tell us how your hood ended up blocking the Inventors twice in a row? Oorc, No Maria proposed it and you agreed. Then on N2 Maria proposed it and... I don't remember which of you/panth supported it. Please be patient with me and gibe us your statement once more.

@pathL You can do the same if you like.

Maria proposed it N1, Vex and I both agreed since we were both scumreading Dave anyway.

N2, I was still scumreading Dave, and no harm had been reported after blocking him N1, (literally my reasoning being: "well we did it last night and whatever we blocked didn't seem to have hurt anything") and the rest of the hood agreed.

Day 3 Dave outted what his group was doing and you outted your own group, giving us a much better place to roleblock. I specifically told the group that we would not be roleblocking anywhere else for the remainder of the game. I've stuck to that, and to the best of my knowledge so has panth.

kuribo · Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:42 am

In post 7351, Almost50 wrote:OK.. one more "not directly related to panth": FL's slip was about him wanting Maria to vote Ank. Who still thinks Ank is Scum here?

I don't like a lot of Ank's play in this game, but the last day or two (since the maria flip) have been fine

My biggest townreads right now are you and Gamma.

kuribo · Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:59 am

In post 7357, davesaz wrote:
In post 7353, kuribo wrote:
In post 7344, Almost50 wrote:@kuribo: One more time, please. Can you tell us how your hood ended up blocking the Inventors twice in a row? Oorc, No Maria proposed it and you agreed. Then on N2 Maria proposed it and... I don't remember which of you/panth supported it. Please be patient with me and gibe us your statement once more.

@pathL You can do the same if you like.
Maria proposed it N1, Vex and I both agreed since we were both scumreading Dave anyway.

N2, I was still scumreading Dave, and no harm had been reported after blocking him N1, (literally my reasoning being: "well we did it last night and whatever we blocked didn't seem to have hurt anything") and the rest of the hood agreed.

Day 3 Dave outted what his group was doing and you outted your own group, giving us a much better place to roleblock. I specifically told the group that we would not be roleblocking anywhere else for the remainder of the game. I've stuck to that, and to the best of my knowledge so has panth.
If you target an individual who isn’t part of a group now does that block the individual actions?
How is abstain / vote resolved in your group? Could one of you act alone? Are you saying you have been blocking the vote steal?

We can't block individual actions or last man standing abilities; the mod stated that LMS has won the group and no longer has a group ability.

Abstain is handled the same way, to my knowledge, as it is for all other groups as stated in the mod's opening post. Ie, abstain is treated as a vote not to act and ties are randomized.

It's entirely possible that one of the other members voted differently but I have no way of knowing.

Yes, I've been blocking the vote steal just as I said I would do starting day 3 and just like I said I would continue to do as long as it's in the game.

kuribo · Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:00 am

In post 7358, Ankamius wrote:
In post 7356, kuribo wrote:
In post 7351, Almost50 wrote:OK.. one more "not directly related to panth": FL's slip was about him wanting Maria to vote Ank. Who still thinks Ank is Scum here?

I don't like a lot of Ank's play in this game, but the last day or two (since the maria flip) have been fine

My biggest townreads right now are you and Gamma.
I own up to my bad reads, but the last scum being in your hood still means that I played enough of a critical part in town's victory just by getting too close to the truth that scum were forced into a really awkward position of needing me dead without being able to go full force into it

In this scenario, I'm satisfied enough with my play.

I'm mostly referring to your pre-Maria "this is the solve no this is the solve or wait is it this" but I've also come to attribute that to frustration and just wanting a scum lynch no matter where it lands

kuribo · Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:36 am

I've never been good at wall posts or making long cases or anything like that, and frankly I don't think anyone in their right minds would expect me to anyways.

I do want to say that A50 is by far my strongest town read, and I'm very heavily townreading Gamma as well.

I'm still unsure about panth being scum, but Xtoxm thinks that's just reluctance on my part because of our personal blowout. ie, he thinks I feel guilty for being pissed off at panth before and it's tainting my read on him.

Dave's play has been one or two shining moments of towniness with a lot of bad stuff that looks worse and worse in hindsight. I'd lynch this at this point.

I still don't like a lot of FB's play and interaction towards me. Whether it's scum indicative or just bias, I don't know. I do like that he clarified things with me regarding RC today. I don't think FB-scum tries to bring me to his pocket by saying "oh, RC doesn't hate you." I think in his case it's easier for him to simply continue fueling that and drag me into another pissfight.

kuribo · Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:22 am

In post 7404, Gammagooey wrote:Why not? Both of them not being in your QT that night is provably true and gives you something to go off of for a bit, and either of you/kuribo getting lynched probably makes it less likely Maria gets lynched long-term

I wanna point out that he and Maria were both posting in the neighbor PT that night, his accusation was that I was scum because I was not posting there. This was during my VLA as I've talked about many times.

kuribo · Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:55 am

I don't think Dave has done himself any favors with his posts in the time since his reveal though. Or his posts before.

BUT, my problem with the Maria/Dave roleblock collaboration is that Dave was scummy enough on his own day one to warrant roleblocking anyway. There's plenty of reasons he could be town with Maria steering the block to him, and they all go back to his scummy day one play.

And then you can get into just as many reasons it makes them scum together and now I'm chasing my tail and getting a headache. Lol

kuribo · Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:21 am

In post 7432, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2076, Vex Vience wrote:
Spoiler: notes

OK. And I guess I misunderstood jjh. He was asking if these note were posted in your HOOD. You know, the one you share with Kuribo (and -previously- Maria). Were they?

The notes were shared with the PT. Maria particularly liked his handwriting.

kuribo · Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:32 pm

In post 7435, Almost50 wrote:2things (from jjh):

1- How long before daystart were the notes posted in the hood? Did vex use them to inform his decision to roleblock dave? Like, did he post them and say he was voting dave (or going to vote him) based on them?

2- I also retract the "big secret" remark in my case on panth, as it appears he was quoting Volpe on that post (265) having a big secret tier in his reads and calling that weird.

I'd have to go back and match up the time stamps but my memory says it was nearer the end of the night or at least the second half of it

kuribo · Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:36 pm

It was about two hours before day started, so long after the vote deadline

The next post he made after the notes was him saying he wasn't sure about me but he was completely sure maria was town

kuribo · Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:38 pm

But if anything, his notes being posted so late just reinforces his assertion that he hadn't read the game and had deferred to Maria in the earlier part of the night when he voted. A situation I can empathize with.

kuribo · Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:14 pm

The problem is that there's a lot that doesn't make sense as town

And mafia was always dick-swinging, it just used to be more subtle

kuribo · Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:15 pm

Believe me, if I was more sure you were scum, I would

kuribo · Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:23 pm

I don't like that Dave has a similar void of townie looking stuff. I think he had one or two days of good play where outting his ability bought him time, and that enveloped around that time period is some evasive looking behavior.
I think there could be merit in the idea that he didn't want to have to clear someone and so he didn't kill anyone.
I think his vote on you is defensive.
I think Dave's entire play has been defensive.

kuribo · Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:25 pm

Welp that's it bake him away toys

kuribo · Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:14 pm

In post 7502, panthaleon wrote:Oka wants a proper massclaim of roles and actions throughout the game

Oka's about three or four days late on that, every single action and role has been claimed days ago. Anything not claimed by now is obviously not going to be claimed.

kuribo · Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:15 pm

In post 7515, kuribo wrote:
In post 7502, panthaleon wrote:Oka wants a proper massclaim of roles and actions throughout the game
Oka's about three or four days late on that, every single action and role has been claimed days ago. Anything not claimed by now is obviously not going to be claimed.

Let me rephrase. We do have actions that seem to have been undertaken, but they are unaccounted for and I can't imagine anyone says "Oh yeah that thing that happened on N1 that was totally me"

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:22 am

In post 7520, Ankamius wrote:
In post 7500, panthaleon wrote:Oka wants to know why ank is still alive

Oka also wants a few days to continue speaking through me
because I was a mislynch target and because after that stopped being viable, it would just give a50 a vig shot

I'm looking at votecounts and it looks like you were counterwagon to nom on exactly one day. The most votes you had was four, two of which are flipped town, one is me, and one is flipped scum.

It doesn't look like you were ever a viable lynch, least of all to nom.

That doesn't make you a mislynch Target.

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:28 am

Like I've softened on you being scum quite a bit but I do have to challenge the idea that scum was pushing you as a counter to the town with the venue shot when they clearly weren't. Scum seemed more than happy to let Nom be the Mislynch

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:29 am

In post 7522, Ankamius wrote:with how long you/a50/ep were up my ass all game, that makes me a pretty obvious mislynch target

Well since all three of us are town, you'd think scum would have taken advantage of that

I'm not saying you're scum, I'm just saying don't get caught up in the trap of thinking you were an easy mislynch

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:31 am

In post 7522, Ankamius wrote:with how long you/a50/ep were up my ass all game, that makes me a pretty obvious mislynch target

And you got no room to talk about being up anyone's ass when you posited a hundred solves, each with me being scum with literally every player in the game for no reason other than I was townreading nom and getting pissy with people for antagonizing me. Or for defending myself against nonsensical attacks.

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:41 am

I mean again by who?

Maybe you're alive because they don't wanna give A50 a vig

Maybe you're alive because scum thinks your reads are worse than the dead's

Maybe you're alive because they think you'll help them mislynch

Maybe you're alive because they've had bigger fish to fry

Like, one could speculate endlessly but I don't see you as mislynch bait in this and it's very surface level to assume that's the reason. I'll give you an example: lynching me is like pulling teeth. Whether I'm town, or scum, or third party, I'm not an easy lynch. And part of my style is designed so that it won't ever be easy to lynch me. You yourself can attest to that because you tried to lynch me and here we both are. I don't think for two seconds that I'm alive because I'm easy lynchbait. I don't exactly know why I'm alive, but I sure as rain know it isn't that.

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:42 am

You can't really call yourself a mislynch target when you were a counterwagon to town and when 3/4 of the people voting you were also town

That implies lazy targeting.

Which I guess is possible but isn't likely.

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:44 am

And yes I'm mostly having this discussion because activity has dropped way off and I don't want people to get apathetic again

We're so close to a win here, so let's at least find something to talk about etc

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:47 am

I want more from Dave besides a naked vote to save himself

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 9:55 am

I mean maybe

I'll be honest I only looked at the official vote counts

I was trying to choke you to death so hard at the time that I didn't really know or care who else was scum reading you

kuribo · Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:05 pm

In post 7546, Firebringer wrote:guys hold up and let rc read and give thoughts.

I don't see anyone getting powerlynched, life continues while RC's reading. Like, it's been 24 hours, were we supposed to completely clam up and wait?

Is there any harm in continuing to talk while we wait on his reads?

kuribo · Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:40 am

I've said it for years and I'll say it until the day comes that I'm finally permbanned for telling someone to crawl up their own ass and suffocate on feces

Nobody is confirmed town until they're dead or mod cleared.

And I'm not even trying to shade ank as scum, I just hate the site meta where people run around calling themselves confirmed town.

kuribo · Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:46 am

And besides if that clears you then it clears me too: A50 has been hard townreading me for days while you and I went at at each other's throats, yet I never made a move to toss a vig shot to someone who absolutely wouldn't have shot me.

Now I'm not saying that fact does make me cleared town, I'm just pointing out how that rabbit hole goes and why I hate how eager people on the site are to AHA IM CONFTOWN AND SO IS X.

Like that's how you get played; towns aren't nearly paranoid enough. Trust no one except the dead and the mod confirmed has always been my motto.

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:22 am

In post 7578, Gammagooey wrote:if they both want dave instead then as I said I'd prefer that

I prefer dave at this point, and I think that ends the game today.

I'm just holding my fire to see if FB ever comes up with the RC stuff he told us to be quiet for.

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:10 am

In post 7487, kuribo wrote:I don't like that Dave has a similar void of townie looking stuff. I think he had one or two days of good play where outting his ability bought him time, and that enveloped around that time period is some evasive looking behavior.
I think there could be merit in the idea that he didn't want to have to clear someone and so he didn't kill anyone.
I think his vote on you is defensive.
I think Dave's entire play has been defensive.

In post 7400, kuribo wrote:I've never been good at wall posts or making long cases or anything like that, and frankly I don't think anyone in their right minds would expect me to anyways.

I do want to say that A50 is by far my strongest town read, and I'm very heavily townreading Gamma as well.

I'm still unsure about panth being scum, but Xtoxm thinks that's just reluctance on my part because of our personal blowout. ie, he thinks I feel guilty for being pissed off at panth before and it's tainting my read on him.

Dave's play has been one or two shining moments of towniness with a lot of bad stuff that looks worse and worse in hindsight. I'd lynch this at this point.

I still don't like a lot of FB's play and interaction towards me. Whether it's scum indicative or just bias, I don't know. I do like that he clarified things with me regarding RC today. I don't think FB-scum tries to bring me to his pocket by saying "oh, RC doesn't hate you." I think in his case it's easier for him to simply continue fueling that and drag me into another pissfight.

In post 7530, kuribo wrote:I want more from Dave besides a naked vote to save himself

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:41 am

In post 7591, davesaz wrote:
In post 7530, kuribo wrote:I want more from Dave besides a naked vote to save himself
Asked and answered.
I have said who is scum and why.
That's it.
Either lynch me and lose, or lynch someone else and win.
I'm done talking about it.

I wasn't asking you to repeat yourself. I was answering Ank's question regarding my opinion of you and the gamestate. She wanted examples of me showing why you're my #1 choice.

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:46 am

In post 7591, davesaz wrote:I have said who is scum and why.

Okay let's say you're town.

Your assertion is that gamma is scum, right? But you also questioned FB's usefulness and compared it to DEB's. So is FB scum?

Lemme phrase this even simpler:

Suppose you get lynched and flip town. If I were to survive the night and wake up tomorrow, then channel your ghost into my hatred, who would you want the Murdercock to destroy?

Or pretend for a moment you're vengeful and you have the chance to end the game. Who would you shoot?

No explanation. No bullshit. Just tell me whose lynch you feel wins ya the game.

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:12 pm

If you had a track left I'd hope to god you'd have said so instead of letting yourself get run up the flagpole and then declaring that you were deleting your bookmark

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:14 pm

Like you've been on the table for daaaaaaays at this point and it's only now, on day 7 when you might be lynched that you're all "let me live another day I might have a track left!" Even though you've had investigative abilities for four days now and nothing to show for them.

This isn't some situation where you rolled investigative, it's a situation where scum can claim the role for itself.

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:17 pm

My thing is Dave wants to be left to LyLo (his words) but I don't like the risk of him claiming he sat on his track for two more nights and then magically coming up with a guilty on someone when it's just him and two others

And nevermind the fact that leaving him to LYLO implies that he thinks we won't lynch scum before then anyway

Maybe I'm just tired though, it's the weekend so y'all know what that means

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:33 pm

In post 7610, Firebringer wrote:random thought

what if we just skipped lynching and let scum do a kill. dave either gets a guilty, inno someone, or dies. Giving us more info.

And if scum no-kills again then Dave will mysteriously have not used it

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:38 pm

I mean it's the last team mafia game, we could just keep it going perpetually and never crown a winner

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:39 pm

Eventually they'd get bored or they'd at least start taking shots at the BP

kuribo · Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:40 pm

In post 7618, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7617, kuribo wrote:I mean it's the last team mafia game, we could just keep it going perpetually and never crown a winner
i find this ending extremely funny, and im in support of it.

Same even though all I need here is a town win and my team will be undefeated

I don't think Xtoxm and Pine would be too happy but they'll get over it when we're still playing this game next Christmas

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:24 am

In post 7681, Almost50 wrote:You don't bloody take a DOUBLEVOTER to a 3-player LyLo unless they've been mechanically cleared. Who the fuck taught you to play Mafia??

Except as we've BOTH confirmed, the ability does not work in LYLO

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:34 am

Why the hell do you think panth said this:

In post 7580, panthaleon wrote:The fact that I'm still alive indicates to me that the last scum is prob already on me. Like unless kuribo is going for that loooong con

If he was scum and I was town, tomorrow would be the last day for me to take advantage of the doublevote and yet I'm not even trying to string him up.

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:35 am

*if i was scum and he was town

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:36 am

Panth I see now what you were talking about earlier

"Let's lynch panth!"

"Okay sweet oh shit now Kuribo is a double voter"

"Oh shit can't let that live to LYLO let's kill it next"

"Okay cool now there's three of us and we've decided we're all three town how nice"

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:57 am

In post 7693, panthaleon wrote:I think it's very important that we set up all the next votes right now so that the scum player can ok the queue and we can lynch people in rapid succession

Oka wants to know if we have RC's reads yet. I don't think I've seen them

Ah yes the reads that fire asked us to wait for and to stop posting while we waited

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:27 am

In post 7704, Gammagooey wrote:Man i made a case on dave and it sure didn't seem like anyone else was moving

I'm still 98% sure we just lynch Dave tomorrow and win

I was 100% willing to vote on Dave and explained why but FB wanted time to post RC's reads so I naively assumed those would be worth waiting for

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:31 am

In post 7712, panthaleon wrote:Wow u get two votes tomorrow kuribo

Sorry to hear ur going to die for it

Nah because if it's one of Ank Or A50, they'll make me voteless tomorrow despite claiming to town read me

"Ooooops dunno how that happened"

Nevermind that I can call myself blatantly and obviously town just like everyone else has in the game

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:35 am

In post 7713, Firebringer wrote:look at kuribo over here.

so naïve.

what r u like 58.5? LOL

u r deported

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:36 am

In post 7720, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7718, kuribo wrote:
In post 7713, Firebringer wrote:look at kuribo over here.

so naïve.

what r u like 58.5? LOL

u r deported
omg i am dying

no ur canadian now

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:37 am

In post 7719, Gammagooey wrote:Ok
Have fun reporting being called such horrific things as 'naive' and 'condescending' in a mafia game
If it makes you feel better I won't hold it against you once you flip scum

The bar for reportable behavior sure has lowered in the eight years since I MSpainted myself naked and pissing fire on Llamarble while he defended himself with a giant turd

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:43 am

Man on the one hand I really wanna throw some jokes into this but on the other hand I've already been warned once for this game by the admins

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:44 am

In post 7728, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7721, kuribo wrote:no ur canadian now
this should get kuribo a permaban tbh.

Nothing worse than being called a canuck.

Would you like me to get you some Molson, eh?

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:45 am

In post 7731, Firebringer wrote:throw some jabs at me. I won't report them.

I don't believe in punching down

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:48 am

In post 7733, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7732, kuribo wrote:
In post 7731, Firebringer wrote:throw some jabs at me. I won't report them.

I don't believe in punching down
but ur like six foot whatever. when do u ever get the chance to punch up!?!?

Would some poutine make you feel better aboot it

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:52 am

I've said it before and I'll say it again

Maria's Cum Dot Net would be great if it weren't fall all the mafia games

kuribo · Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:52 am

In post 7741, kuribo wrote:Maria's Cum Dot Net would be great if it weren't fall all the mafia games

Mafia's Cum god dammit

Wow that's one horrifying autocorrect

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:53 am

Bullshit bitch

vote: dave

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:54 am

Y'all do what you want but make sure you neck this motherfucker tomorrow or vig him tonight

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:59 am

It's a one shot double vote that doesn't work in LYLO. My second vote can be split from my first vote and uses a different vote tag.

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:00 am

You and me both know god damn well no town player waits five days to use a track, uses it on a professed town read, then claims a guilty after begging to be left to LYLO

You've overplayed your fucking hand dude and A50 is gonna shoot you tonight

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:02 am

I have never fucking once let any piece of shit on this site get away with faking a guilty on me and I'm damn sure not starting today

This is a 1v1.

You and me.

They lynch me today, you had better damn sight get vigged tonight

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:04 am

Ooooooooh

You cheeky fucker you still have your commute don't you

You're counting on A50 shooting at you and missing so you can call Gamma scum at LYLO

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:08 am

In post 7763, Almost50 wrote:@kuribo: That makes no sense. dave claimed a guilty on you. Myself, FB & gooey are now confirmed town (I know you hate the term, but it's a fact). Either dave is legit - you are scum, or he is lying = he is scum.

Dave is scum. He fakes a guilty, commutes so you can't vig him and he's been casting shade on gamma for days now.

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:08 am

He wouldn't be the first motherfucker to fake a guilty and think he can talk his way out of the target flipping town

Hell, I've BEEN the motherfucker

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:14 am

Oh please, FL fuckin carried your ass if you get a win here

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:17 am

In post 7768, Gammagooey wrote:Like honestly I expected exactly this from dave-scum except that he'd fake a guilty on one of ank/almost instead

I also lost the last UT game I played in b/c of a completely unpredictable extra scum kill so I'm more than a bit hesitant to compromise on the order here

I literally said yesterday that I expected him to fake a guilty while y'all were lynching panth

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:40 am

In post 7789, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7785, Gammagooey wrote:I still want to lynch Dave over kuribo
Sorry, but I'm not lynching the Cop over the guilty.

He's not a fuckin cop, he's a role that killed off his neighbors to become a JOAT and then claimed not to use any of those for five days

Conveniently not even using his watch when there was a lightning rod

Huge difference between a cop and a scum that can take on a cop role

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:47 am

In post 7794, davesaz wrote:
In post 7791, kuribo wrote:Conveniently not even using his watch when there was a lightning rod
It had already been used the night before when I fully expected the doc to be killed.
I even picked the non-scum doc.

How convenient.

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:48 am

FL: "Hey Dave, if I go down for that slip, they're gonna expect you to watch"

Dave: "Shit you right Lemme just watch someone we aren't killing"

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:57 am

In post 7796, kuribo wrote:FL: "Hey Dave, if I go down for that slip, they're gonna expect you to watch"

Dave: "Shit you right Lemme just watch someone we aren't killing"

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:59 am

So FL scumslips

Maria gets venged and flips scum

Dave uses his watch on EP that night?

FL gets lynched

EP becomes lightning rod

Dave OOPS NO MORE WATCH

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:09 pm

Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you, scumfuck

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:20 pm

Shoot Dave tonight, that'll end the game

I can't fucking believe some shithead scum like Dave can hand me a mislynch

Imma get you for that one dude, I always repay blood

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:22 pm

Like damn

curiouskarmadog

GreyICE

and... davesaz

Lol one of these things is not like the other what the fuck is this world coming to when davesaz mislynches He Who Walks Behind the Nooses

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:35 pm

You damn well ought to be sorry gamma

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:38 pm

Get your heads outta your asses and kill Dave tonight

If A50's shot fails, neck Dave tomorrow.

Took eight years for scum to get a mislynch on me again and in team mafia, the biggest stage of them all.

Dave you cheeky little fuck.

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:40 pm

Doesn't much matter

Maybe town wins this and the Four Horsemen get more votes than A50's team for tiebreaker

Oh who am I kidding, those guys are a lock, Xtoxm predicted that already

kuribo · Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:42 pm

I helped tear apart Flavor Leaf, one of the site's premiere scum players

I was right about DEB from day one

I tried to save nom

I tried to save panth

And in the end a fakeclaim is gonna cost me team mafia.

Ain't that some shit

kuribo · Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:05 am

I'm gonna keep it civil, but I will say accusing someone of faking a VLA goes beyond "just a game."

I needed breathing room on a personal level, so I took time away from the thread and you used that to accuse me.

Yah I could have afforded to take a chill pill, and god knows I try. But between being scumread for reporting a cheater, being accused of VLA-faking, and having someone admit that they were trying to infuriate me... do you think this game was fun for me?

kuribo · Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:04 pm

In post 7829, panthaleon wrote:Ok my dude but you were scum though, and you and Maria both were largely absent from the PT and we both scum. Like there's a reasonable response to that and you elected to take it violently personally.

My alignment has nothing to do with you questioning my on-site integrity in abusing VLA

and further, as I said in game thread at the time, you were wrong about me being absent anyway because at the time you had made the accusation I was literally the last person who had posted. And you can't even say maria was absent either because you and her talked together all that night.

Maybe I shouldn't have been as pissed as I was but if you can't see how accusing someone of faking a VLA is going to be taken personally, then I don't know what to tell you. My response to you was personal because your attack on me WAS personal--- VLA is not something I take lightly especially when I was doing VLAs on weekends anyway due to my work schedule and when I had already been asked to step away from the game for a bit to calm down.

How is that not a personal attack; "hey this guy asked for some time away from the thread to calm down and stopped posting so lemme use that against him." I stepped away from the the thread and took VLA precisely to AVOID an explosive argument and you used that against me.

I couldn't take that any way other than personally.