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Post Post #14  (isolation #0)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:46 pm

lol really?

you culted me n0?
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Post Post #15  (isolation #1)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:46 pm

why
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Post Post #29  (isolation #2)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:54 pm

damn did I say that out loud

oops
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Post Post #36  (isolation #3)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:57 pm

oh no am I being punished?
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Post Post #38  (isolation #4)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:59 pm

sounds like a good plan to me tbh
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Post Post #70  (isolation #5)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:11 pm

I cry
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Post Post #81  (isolation #6)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:14 pm

Korina you're not doing a very good job of hiding your cultist atm
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Post Post #99  (isolation #7)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:22 pm

I think the cultist hasn't posted yet.
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Post Post #112  (isolation #8)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:35 pm

what?

Farkran looks a lot more likely to be town to me than scum
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Post Post #116  (isolation #9)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:37 pm

oh so you meant me then?
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Post Post #130  (isolation #10)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:49 pm

In post 119, Conspire wrote:I agree Farkran looks a little townie though

P-edit; oh yeah I’ve seen that happen too wrt to Alyssa

~Esper


what does this even mean
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Post Post #137  (isolation #11)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:51 pm

In post 134, Auro wrote:VOTE: Alyssa The Lamb
Sorry for hammering so early, were you cult


damn how did I get caught so fast :(((
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Post Post #139  (isolation #12)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:51 pm

: ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
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Post Post #140  (isolation #13)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:51 pm

drixx???
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Post Post #147  (isolation #14)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:55 pm

why does randomizing recruits discourage townhunting exactly?
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Post Post #149  (isolation #15)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:55 pm

add me to townblock pls
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Post Post #167  (isolation #16)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:08 pm

Obviously you hunt based on the mechanics of the game...
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Post Post #168  (isolation #17)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:08 pm

Its disadvantageous for me to go into the methods I plan on using regardless of alignment so I won't
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Post Post #179  (isolation #18)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:14 pm

In post 171, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 168, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Its disadvantageous for me to go into the methods I plan on using regardless of alignment so I won't


I do not believe you were asked to. The question from Farkran was directed toward me.


It was preemptive
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Post Post #182  (isolation #19)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:17 pm

In post 180, Auro wrote:
In post 168, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Its disadvantageous for me to go into the methods I plan on using regardless of alignment so I won't

Can you say why they're disadvantageous without actually spelling out the methods themselves?


Because as town I'll be telling the cult how to play around me, and as cult I'll be telling town how to catch me
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Post Post #189  (isolation #20)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:37 pm

Who used the randomization as a defense?
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Post Post #192  (isolation #21)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:39 pm

Ofc you would
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Post Post #196  (isolation #22)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:41 pm

In post 195, RCEnigma wrote:Slaxxx soft defending you with the randomization angle.


What?

I don't understand the relevance of this
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Post Post #202  (isolation #23)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:44 pm

I still think cult hasn't posted yet
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Post Post #211  (isolation #24)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:46 pm

In post 206, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 82, Slaxx wrote:
In post 80, Farkran wrote:
In post 63, Slaxx wrote:
In post 60, Farkran wrote:
In post 49, Korina wrote:
In post 47, Farkran wrote:To be more clear i am not RVSing, i think the joke is not actually a joke.

The same thing happened in the previous cult game where blatant scum claimed CL d1

I want alyssa lynched


Will all the perks of joining my cult change your mind?

You should have known better and recruit me n0 if you wanted me in. You made the choice, i think alyssa makes sense as a n0 target.


I would have randomized it if I were the leader

Can't outguess dice

Why? As a CL your true enemy are your own guesses, and anarchist's guesses. Why wouldn't you recruit a player with a solid reputation in order to avoid him being the anarchist?


Because this exact thing would happen where people automatically push the strongest player

This. I didn't like that slax seemed to be implying if CL randed them you (Alyssa) probably wouldn't be the N0 cult.


That indicates cult trying to outmaneuver town by being harder to predict, not defending specific players
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Post Post #213  (isolation #25)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:47 pm

In post 207, Auro wrote:So you think Homura is cult, Ank?


I counted 2 slots

Plus add Chemist too for good measure
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Post Post #219  (isolation #26)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:50 pm

In post 215, Slaxx wrote:I honestly have no clue how you got me implying that out of that text but I've always said you know my motivations better than I do so guess I'll take you word for it.


who?
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Post Post #226  (isolation #27)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:52 pm

In post 223, Auro wrote:
In post 216, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 211, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 206, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 82, Slaxx wrote:
In post 80, Farkran wrote:
In post 63, Slaxx wrote:
In post 60, Farkran wrote:
In post 49, Korina wrote:
In post 47, Farkran wrote:To be more clear i am not RVSing, i think the joke is not actually a joke.

The same thing happened in the previous cult game where blatant scum claimed CL d1

I want alyssa lynched


Will all the perks of joining my cult change your mind?

You should have known better and recruit me n0 if you wanted me in. You made the choice, i think alyssa makes sense as a n0 target.


I would have randomized it if I were the leader

Can't outguess dice

Why? As a CL your true enemy are your own guesses, and anarchist's guesses. Why wouldn't you recruit a player with a solid reputation in order to avoid him being the anarchist?


Because this exact thing would happen where people automatically push the strongest player

This. I didn't like that slax seemed to be implying if CL randed them you (Alyssa) probably wouldn't be the N0 cult.


That indicates cult trying to outmaneuver town by being harder to predict, not defending specific players

I agreed with the thought itself. But not the implication you were town as a result.

This kind of quote replying only clogs up the thread!


gotta admit it's pretty though
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Post Post #231  (isolation #28)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:55 pm

probably
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Post Post #232  (isolation #29)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:55 pm

tbf the TM large that just ended had korina in it for a day

but I'm not counting that
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Post Post #236  (isolation #30)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:58 pm

In post 233, Slaxx wrote:Starting to think Alyssa might be right on the cult still hasn't posted thing


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Post Post #238  (isolation #31)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:59 pm

I don't care about the anarchist

let korina worry about it
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Post Post #242  (isolation #32)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:24 pm

In post 241, Farkran wrote:I don't think korina is randing, he has everything to lose by randing. If we don't want to enter the realm of korinaspec though i still think that Alyssa joke was more AI than it was supposed to be.

I meta-townread sujimichi too for now


what do you think was korina's strategy?
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Post Post #243  (isolation #33)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:24 pm

there's one very interesting point that nobody seems to have considered yet, but I want to see if somebody can come up with it first
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Post Post #247  (isolation #34)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:33 pm

just based on how the day has gone, I strongly doubt that he thought along those lines n0
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Post Post #256  (isolation #35)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:03 pm

hello to you too my dear
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Post Post #264  (isolation #36)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:44 pm

In post 116, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:oh so you meant me then?
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Post Post #280  (isolation #37)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:27 pm

In post 271, Farkran wrote:Alyssa do you have any reads so far?


I have plenty of reads
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Post Post #283  (isolation #38)  » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:28 pm

what are you willing to do for me for my reads?
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Post Post #289  (isolation #39)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:19 am

inb4 Suji votes Suji
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Post Post #294  (isolation #40)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:40 am

You don't know me very well then
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Post Post #296  (isolation #41)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:47 am

Me obviously
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Post Post #297  (isolation #42)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:48 am

Nah probably homura
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Post Post #299  (isolation #43)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:29 am

Most likely cult + highest value town flip
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Post Post #300  (isolation #44)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:30 am

In post 243, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:there's one very interesting point that nobody seems to have considered yet, but I want to see if somebody can come up with it first

In post 247, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:just based on how the day has gone, I strongly doubt that he thought along those lines n0
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Post Post #301  (isolation #45)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:34 am

I can reveal my thoughts later, I feel nobody caught it
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Post Post #309  (isolation #46)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:04 am

I understand Auro's vote but not suji's
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Post Post #313  (isolation #47)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:29 am

That timing was interesting suji
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Post Post #314  (isolation #48)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:32 am

In post 311, Auro wrote:
In post 299, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Most likely cult + highest value town flip

So the 'interesting thing' in game makes you actually believe Korina RNG'd?
I dunno if Korina would actually engage with me the way he had about RNG if he actually RNG'd - it's as if he was trying to throw us off predicting him, no?


I don't think the RNG aspect is anything other than a distraction.

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Post Post #372  (isolation #49)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:17 pm

huh.

I got home and suddenly all my interest in mafia for the day vanished

interesting.
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Post Post #419  (isolation #50)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:36 pm

ok let me know when korina stops posting
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Post Post #477  (isolation #51)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:24 pm

A+ vote
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Post Post #483  (isolation #52)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:27 pm

why am I being wagoned again?
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Post Post #484  (isolation #53)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:33 pm

this feels a lot like people being lazy rather than people actually scumreading me
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Post Post #487  (isolation #54)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:41 pm

I hope they're good reasons
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Post Post #489  (isolation #55)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:47 pm

Jingle those aren't good reasons

cmon step up your game
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Post Post #498  (isolation #56)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:35 pm

Chemist1422
Farkran
Korina
Sujimichi
Auro

Homura
Conspire
Alyssa the Lamb
Slaxx, replacing The Allfather

RCEnigma
Klick
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Post Post #501  (isolation #57)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:39 pm

Auro is firmly in his town mindset
Farkran's mindset is transparently town
Slaxx's mindset looks town
Klick's mindset looks town
Sujimichi's thought processes look town

out of everybody else, my read on Korina matches most closely with Homura being the cultist.

plus I think that lynching her is the highest raw value of any townflip if I'm wrong
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Post Post #503  (isolation #58)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:41 pm

namely

there's two players that are this hard-lurk type player in this game, and those players are perfect to hide a cultist in since it's harder to accurately decipher which one is cult and which one isn't later on in the game.

We're likely to use our only mislynch today based on setup anyways, so using it to also remove that particular option from Korina's options is helpful to every non-cult alignment since NOW, with only one such person in the game, it's not a guessing game if the game suddenly only makes sense if one cult is having a notably weak showing in this game.
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Post Post #504  (isolation #59)  » Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:42 pm

In post 502, Slaxx wrote:Is like more from Horuma before day end


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Post Post #534  (isolation #60)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 am

In post 527, Homura wrote:
In post 503, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:namely

there's two players that are this hard-lurk type player in this game, and those players are perfect to hide a cultist in since it's harder to accurately decipher which one is cult and which one isn't later on in the game.

We're likely to use our only mislynch today based on setup anyways, so using it to also remove that particular option from Korina's options is helpful to every non-cult alignment since NOW, with only one such person in the game, it's not a guessing game if the game suddenly only makes sense if one cult is having a notably weak showing in this game.

You make the assumption that Korina picked me on the basis of knowing I am a hard-lurk player before the start of the game. As an unknown, the only way Korina would know that would be if they analyzed my games, where I demonstrated a fair amount of activity as a player. Furthermore, now that you pointed it out and started my wagon, the chances of Korina picking me after D1 are microscopic.

This bleeds survivalist.


this is patently untrue.

I've mentioned before that the method of what Korina picks on n0 doesn't matter, only the result. The point I made about culting a hard-lurk player mostly extends to later days after the game has had a chance to form itself.
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Post Post #537  (isolation #61)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:07 am

the benefits don't magically go away now that it's known
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Post Post #541  (isolation #62)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:55 am

In post 540, Ankamius wrote:Largely diminished how exactly

A slot that's hard to differentiate doesn't suddenly become less valuable to cult when town is aware of the value within it. It's only true when there's only one such slot in the game, which there isn't.
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Post Post #542  (isolation #63)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:56 am

He's being interestingly precise for how much shit he's pushing out. This is more consistent with him trying to show discord among the more active members and giving his cultist more room to hide by reducing the relative activity of everybody.
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Post Post #545  (isolation #64)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:17 am

Korina's cultist
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Post Post #549  (isolation #65)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:23 am

didn't you have a scumcase on me auro
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Post Post #550  (isolation #66)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:24 am

Image
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Post Post #551  (isolation #67)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:24 am

haha pagetopped that

even better
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Post Post #556  (isolation #68)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:26 am

lol

did you just hardspew me town
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Post Post #576  (isolation #69)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:43 am

In post 573, Klick wrote:Auro is kicked from the townbloc
Who wants to replace him?


Oooooh pick me pick me!!!
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Post Post #578  (isolation #70)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:00 am

Strong enough to require a lot to budge on them
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Post Post #580  (isolation #71)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:28 am

Wish granted.
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Post Post #582  (isolation #72)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:29 am

Who's my new member?
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Post Post #584  (isolation #73)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:16 am

Spoiler:
I'm spicy
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Post Post #585  (isolation #74)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:18 am

Damn I think I need to get Korina to coach me harder

We aren't theatreing hard enough I think
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Post Post #586  (isolation #75)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 am

Any advice auro? I remember this being your biggest strength as scum.
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Post Post #589  (isolation #76)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:37 am

Oh

I remember something about him being weird, nothing particularly noteworthy
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Post Post #596  (isolation #77)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:02 pm

well today should be easy then
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Post Post #600  (isolation #78)  » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:06 pm

damn who do I mislynch now?
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Post Post #607  (isolation #79)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:22 am

Weren't you going to wall stuff?
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Post Post #618  (isolation #80)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:03 am

In post 614, insomnia wrote:
In post 525, Homura wrote:^

I'm even more of a non-entity than Conspire. Korina never picks me N0.

In post 527, Homura wrote:
In post 503, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:namely

there's two players that are this hard-lurk type player in this game, and those players are perfect to hide a cultist in since it's harder to accurately decipher which one is cult and which one isn't later on in the game.

We're likely to use our only mislynch today based on setup anyways, so using it to also remove that particular option from Korina's options is helpful to every non-cult alignment since NOW, with only one such person in the game, it's not a guessing game if the game suddenly only makes sense if one cult is having a notably weak showing in this game.

You make the assumption that Korina picked me on the basis of knowing I am a hard-lurk player before the start of the game. As an unknown, the only way Korina would know that would be if they analyzed my games, where I demonstrated a fair amount of activity as a player. Furthermore, now that you pointed it out and started my wagon, the chances of Korina picking me after D1 are microscopic.

This bleeds survivalist.


>says Korina doesn't pick them and assumes he (Korina) knows them which is why they didn't pick them
>says Korina doesn't pick them and says that there's no way they knew them

in consecutive fucking posts. how did this get missed.


I think that's a bit of a stretched interpretation of the first quote
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Post Post #624  (isolation #81)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:13 am

It really can just be conspire huh
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Post Post #628  (isolation #82)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:26 am

what
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Post Post #633  (isolation #83)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:33 am

Who were the slots voting me throughout the game?

I want to check something
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Post Post #638  (isolation #84)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:37 am

Ehhhhh

Remind me to look at the farkran votes too

I have an idea but I need time to get to it since I'm at work atm
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Post Post #640  (isolation #85)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:39 am

Bleh

I don't think I can accurately judge conspire under this lens without knowing their identities

So this might just be a dead end
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Post Post #641  (isolation #86)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:41 am

In post 639, Auro wrote:One more angle: Don't you guys think cult would be having, ya know, more fun this game? :P

@Alyssa: Please read Conspire's ISO again - I don't think he's cult.


I think the farkran wagon is more suspicious than mine in a vacuum but it also depends a lot on how each vote happened and roughly each spot's experience with both of us
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Post Post #645  (isolation #87)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:47 am

I'm thinking in different terms than that atm Auro
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Post Post #648  (isolation #88)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:49 am

Yuuuuup conspire has the worst votes of the bunch
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Post Post #649  (isolation #89)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:51 am

If the heads aren't notable for syncing together easily, those two posts can very easily be scum indicative too
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Post Post #652  (isolation #90)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:54 am

I'm thinking along the lines of how do cult maneuver around a gamestate where two hard to lynch town are the top wagons and town blocks are forming quickly
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Post Post #653  (isolation #91)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:55 am

What really strikes me is that they seem to put an emphasis on looking not dissonant despite how much they're posting separately, the second vote on me referenced the reason for the first vote for no apparent reason... despite the heads being different

It's not an entirely natural process
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Post Post #658  (isolation #92)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:02 am

In post 656, Auro wrote:I mean Esper did say he changed his mind when he referenced the first reason.
Also, they have a cult PT. I don't think they'd really be posting separately at all unless they wanted to, and if that was the case you'd not see the "emphasis to not look dissonant".


It really depends on who is in the hydra, but I'd estimate that more people would be afraid of appearing too dissonant as scum than otherwise
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Post Post #659  (isolation #93)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:03 am

That's just as much by how we handled pressure than anything else

It doesn't necessarily translate to other games
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Post Post #662  (isolation #94)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:16 am

In post 661, Auro wrote:@Alyssa: If they're afraid of appearing dissonant, they'd plan their trajectories in the cult PT first.


That's what I think happened
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Post Post #663  (isolation #95)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:16 am

Unnatural emphasis on not appearing dissonant :P
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Post Post #667  (isolation #96)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:26 am

I'd actually argue that people familiar with me would be less likely to try to fake a trajectory on me while I'm an easy push since it can actually be pretty difficult to make pivoting away look natural

But shrug
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Post Post #669  (isolation #97)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:28 am

In post 665, Auro wrote:I mean we wouldn't see so much of the early "posting separately" dissonance (like post ) then and they'd be consistently non-dissonant from the beginning :P


That's the problem though

They're posting like they're separate heads, but their dissonance is weirdly low for that

And it's not like there's a dominant head either, both have been posting with roughly the same tone
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Post Post #673  (isolation #98)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:18 am

Just fyi farkran

I tend to play stereotypically town as scum and stereotypically scum as town

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Post Post #679  (isolation #99)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:37 am

This depends way too much on who's in the hydra
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Post Post #706  (isolation #100)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:43 am

In post 705, Farkran wrote:One of the peculiarity of cult games - in my experience - has been that being lamisty has much lower scum equity than in other setups


I'm curious why you think this is

I have never thought about it so I'm interested in it on a theory level
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Post Post #710  (isolation #101)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:50 am

In post 707, Farkran wrote:My only reservation wrt Alyssa is that she had undergone a significant tonal change from her introduction, which might be a consequence of her being scumread regardless of alignment - i think that she might have tried to push Homura as a coast-like strategy, but as i said nobody picked up, so now she's trying to push her counterwagon Conspire with a weird trajectory based on hydra dissonance.


My entrance to the game was meant to get me a read on the game.

My push on Homura is roughly when I exited the info gathering phase and entered solve mode
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Post Post #715  (isolation #102)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:19 am

In post 712, insomnia wrote:How do you get a read on the game on page 1?

In post 714, insomnia wrote:Calmez-vous Sherlock. Ank is speaking on a macro lens, my page 1 analysis is not about that. It’s micro.

I assumed she’s talking about the state of the game and all cuz that’s what she always talks about.


By seeing how people react

Obviously I have a rough idea of how I expect the game to go, so I go about trying to confirm or deny that and/or narrow down the possibilities that come to mind

A lot of my earlier posts were specifically for this type of deduction

Lol I almost let it keep seduction
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Post Post #726  (isolation #103)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:39 am

Rawr?
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Post Post #733  (isolation #104)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:45 pm

I want to hear Suji's thoughts before risking ending the day
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Post Post #735  (isolation #105)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:51 pm

Well if he's a cookie then I'd rather just eat him
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Post Post #738  (isolation #106)  » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:18 pm

insomnia does that statement keep you up at night
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Post Post #774  (isolation #107)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:43 am

I'm too tired
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Post Post #806  (isolation #108)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:14 am

I'm inclined to agree tbh
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Post Post #828  (isolation #109)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:00 pm

didn't I point out something like that earlier
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Post Post #830  (isolation #110)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:01 pm

oh, I didn't

but I have noticed that his 'theatre' in thread has been largely only with me.

go check if you haven't noticed it yourself.
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Post Post #831  (isolation #111)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:02 pm

In post 829, insomnia wrote:I only remember your sexual advances towards the smart cookie


what?

I have a sweet tooth
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Post Post #834  (isolation #112)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:03 pm

In post 833, Klick wrote:I had the same feeling about myself early on, he kept quoting a lot of my posts


he responded to a lot of posts
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Post Post #836  (isolation #113)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:04 pm

In post 542, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:He's being interestingly precise for how much shit he's pushing out. This is more consistent with him trying to show discord among the more active members and giving his cultist more room to hide by reducing the relative activity of everybody.


this is the closest I got

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Post Post #847  (isolation #114)  » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:48 pm

lmao of all people to replace into the cult slot
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Post Post #894  (isolation #115)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:40 am

In post 869, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 865, Farkran wrote:
In post 862, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh also not lynching Alyssa until Day 2.

Let me know about this when you are fully caught up, we only have 3 lynches and if we lynch non-cult twice town is pretty much toast, unless Korina recruits the anarchist

This has nothing to do with my read on her (In fact, I didn't established my read on her yet). Just don't want her dead too early, is all.

GIF saying he's not wanting to lynch me until day 2 at the earliest (with no read nonetheless) despite knowing immediately that lynch accuracy is important in this game is

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Post Post #895  (isolation #116)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:41 am

I feel like his entire ISO is one big perspective slip
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Post Post #896  (isolation #117)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:45 am

I wasn't aware that Q+ got automatically posted from quick reply

interesting
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Post Post #902  (isolation #118)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:27 pm

He's talking like hes hyper aware of how the game works

But he spends most of his posting time arguing things that don't matter, going into specific townreads for no apparent reason while others only get a mention, and no indication of who he thinks is the cultist, who he thinks the cultist is between (considering he apparently has at least 4 people he thinks aren't cult), or that he even cares about finding the cultist.
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Post Post #905  (isolation #119)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:57 pm

put it this way, Farkran

who do you think GIF would need to try to push as a counterwagon to himself?
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Post Post #906  (isolation #120)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:58 pm

and just to make it certain

I think GIF as scum would be well aware that pushing me in this situation is suicide.
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Post Post #908  (isolation #121)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:06 pm

yeah but

there isn't a single wagon that everybody can agree with, every slot except for his has somebody thinking they're obvtown.

which does he try to override?
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Post Post #909  (isolation #122)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:08 pm

In post 764, Klick wrote:I really struggle to see people replacing out of positions that are practically autowins tbh.

In post 765, Klick wrote:VOTE: Homura

In post 770, Klick wrote:It's a progression that a townie would have in this circumstance.

Also there are like 6 townreads and limiting your options isn't good for cult, especially when you're one of the hot topic slots of discussion
Meanwhile, town would do it because they believe it and want to solve

In post 839, Klick wrote:
In post 832, Auro wrote:
In post 825, Klick wrote:
In post 814, Klick wrote:It was decent enough reasoning for the initial townbloc.

This doesn't square with "pretty solid N0 recruit" to me.
That factor should hold independent of the game since it was done N0.
If it had enough weight to townbloc someone then, it should have some weight now too - if you genuinely believed it I don't think you'd be dismissive of it to that extent.

It does have some weight
It doesn't make someone flat-out town
I can think its a towntell without thinking it clears Homura (or Chemist) as town
And Homura is scum via PoE


and relook at this progression too please
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Post Post #911  (isolation #123)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:20 pm

1. towncred grab by targeting his counterwagon
2. it can't look too obvious
3. RCE is easier to push than Auro
4. nonzero chance of being able to get momentum onto RCE for a possible lynch

there's so much pressure on his slot that he has to do something drastic in order to derail the lynch off of himself. I don't think it's a coincidence that his four townreads are the top 4 post count players in the game, especially since he went out of his way to put more emphasis on defending his counterwagon and tried to push me as town in a way that really strikes me as trying not to look like a pocket
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Post Post #912  (isolation #124)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:22 pm

it's entirely possible he's doing what I do when I replace into bad scumgames by just trying to look like motivated town solving and throwing out whatever he can come up with that sounds remotely believable

it's like

the stuff he comments on is so asinine and meaningless a lot of the time, he goes through the motions of getting townreads but doesn't PLAY like he's getting townreads

he's just not acting naturally
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Post Post #913  (isolation #125)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:22 pm

I'm kinda struggling to articulate why his posting bugs me too

I don't think that really gets the point across
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Post Post #914  (isolation #126)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:25 pm

I think I psyched myself into believing he just pulled his posts out of his ass rather than planning it
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Post Post #916  (isolation #127)  » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:45 pm

tm large was a very different GIF than how he usually plays
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Post Post #927  (isolation #128)  » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:17 am

I'm disappointed
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Post Post #930  (isolation #129)  » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:38 am

how does that even work
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Post Post #931  (isolation #130)  » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:46 am

do you want to know the funny part about this setup?

I think town has higher odds of winning by mislynching day 1 than hitting cult
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Post Post #936  (isolation #131)  » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:21 am

In post 935, insomnia wrote:Ank makes more sense to be culted Night 1 if Korina has any meta with her. I think it’s a terrible N0 pick.


why specifically
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Post Post #938  (isolation #132)  » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:28 am

I actually prefer scum, it just has very real weaknesses that prevent it from being playable every game
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Post Post #940  (isolation #133)  » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:31 am

that's the most likely possibility yes

but relying on that is meaningless, so I'm discounting that in my theory
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Post Post #944  (isolation #134)  » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:48 pm

you're relying too much on trying to outguess the cult leader rather than what actually happened
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Post Post #985  (isolation #135)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:19 am

My stance this game is that it's getting boring
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Post Post #1090  (isolation #136)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:24 am

I need to double check my reads I think
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Post Post #1093  (isolation #137)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:37 am

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1095  (isolation #138)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:43 am

holy shit have I really voted nobody all game?
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Post Post #1096  (isolation #139)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:45 am

that's incredible

page 44 and I've voted nobody
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Post Post #1098  (isolation #140)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:52 am

did I ever say why I was townreading slaxx?
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Post Post #1099  (isolation #141)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:54 am

nah slaxx is town

VOTE: RCEnigma
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Post Post #1107  (isolation #142)  » Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:08 pm

In post 1101, Auro wrote:Alyssa do you *actually* believe RCE is the best lynch, or did you think you're quickhammering?


I think every other slot is town
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Post Post #1147  (isolation #143)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:21 am

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

Cult is going to get naysayed so fuck it whatever
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Post Post #1148  (isolation #144)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:21 am

I kinda wish you guys consolidated on me because idk if I have the patience to deal with this a second time
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Post Post #1150  (isolation #145)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:24 am

(hint: I pick hard targets as scum)
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Post Post #1152  (isolation #146)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:26 am

GIF towned up though
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Post Post #1153  (isolation #147)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:26 am

I'm dead serious, RCE is literally THE ONLY slot I don't have strong reasons to townread
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Post Post #1155  (isolation #148)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:30 am

because I'm kind of done with this day phase and I'm not interested in arguing about it with you for like 20 pages or however many it would take
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Post Post #1157  (isolation #149)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:31 am

considering that you'd do your best to block it, yes
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Post Post #1159  (isolation #150)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:33 am

I've seen Homura's scumgame before

that's not it.
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Post Post #1161  (isolation #151)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:34 am

you shouldn't have pushed him to L-1 then
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Post Post #1164  (isolation #152)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:37 am

idk why you think I'm going to be willing to ISO 4-5 people to explain to you why you're wrong when I know you're stubborn enough that I'd have to overpower you

but ok if you want to throw the game off a hammer vote, then you do you
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Post Post #1166  (isolation #153)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:40 am

In post 1157, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:considering that you'd do your best to block it, yes
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Post Post #1167  (isolation #154)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:40 am

In post 1165, Auro wrote:Who said you needed to put in that effort? You could've just lurked off and done nothing, how will that be any worse than a GIF lynch if you're sure GIF is town?


this sounds like you understand that scumreading me for this play is ridiculous?
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Post Post #1168  (isolation #155)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:42 am

holy fuck auro might actually be the cult
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Post Post #1169  (isolation #156)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:44 am

I'll have to read overnight, but I've never seen town!Auro this messy about his posting

and I know I've seen scum!Auro posture like this before
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Post Post #1172  (isolation #157)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:45 am

there's no danger of the lynch moving to me if I don't say anything and let it play out.
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Post Post #1173  (isolation #158)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:46 am

In post 1171, Auro wrote:Scum!Auro is never messy about his posting :P


by your terms, maybe not.

by my terms, yes.
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Post Post #1175  (isolation #159)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:47 am

GIF also said that he wasn't willing to lynch me today

so I have nothing to fear from him as cult
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Post Post #1176  (isolation #160)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:48 am

literally the only way you lynch me is by a lazy momentum lynch if I just stay quiet

there's no reason for me to just lolhammer when I can easily just do nothing and wait for the inevitable hammer
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Post Post #1180  (isolation #161)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:53 am

In post 1177, Auro wrote:Auro+Farkran vote.
Suji would probably join.
RCEnigma would very likely join.

Then it's just a matter of convincing Insomnia and then you have Ame vote too, there's 6


In post 1176, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:literally the only way you lynch me is by a lazy momentum lynch if I just stay quiet
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Post Post #1181  (isolation #162)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:55 am

In post 1179, Auro wrote:Conversely, what's the point of all this posturing and hemming and hawwing if I'm cult when I'll have to town up from scratch D2? It's just a lot of effort for nothing.


because what town is going to be looking for is people changing, not whoever was cult d1?
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Post Post #1183  (isolation #163)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:57 am

I hope you're cult
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Post Post #1190  (isolation #164)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:05 pm

:thonk:
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Post Post #1196  (isolation #165)  » Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:11 pm

In post 1185, Jingle wrote:GuyInFreezer has been hammered. He was aligned with the TOWN. Night 1 deadline is in 1 day, 22 hours, 22 minutes.
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Post Post #1264  (isolation #166)  » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:05 am

Heh
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Post Post #1267  (isolation #167)  » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:25 am

and here I'm wondering whether farkran really thought I was cult or if it was some sort of ploy
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