Yes, but lynching the pro-town people isn't the answer. Do you do that in regular games?Skruffs wrote:Interesting.
You are agreeing with the very first thing I Said - that scum are going to act pro-town, and that scum acting like a jester is risky, and yet you say I am not making sense "this whole game"?
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If the jester is lynched, everyone else loses. If the mafia make it seem like they're the jester, then their plan is busted when the real jester is NKed.Skruffs wrote:Why do you say this? What is your reasoning?
Why do you assume that's the Mafia's plan?Crazy wrote:If the jester is lynched, everyone else loses. If the mafia make it seem like they're the jester, then their plan is busted when the real jester is NKed.Skruffs wrote:Why do you say this? What is your reasoning?
This is hypothetical. I was answering Skruffs' question.Rishi wrote:Why do you assume that's the Mafia's plan?Crazy wrote:If the jester is lynched, everyone else loses. If the mafia make it seem like they're the jester, then their plan is busted when the real jester is NKed.Skruffs wrote:Why do you say this? What is your reasoning?
then bold it, ya cretin. DARE ya to vote me
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So what is your opinion on players acting jestery if the real jester ends up NK'd?Crazy wrote:This is hypothetical. I was answering Skruffs' question.Rishi wrote:Why do you assume that's the Mafia's plan?Crazy wrote:If the jester is lynched, everyone else loses. If the mafia make it seem like they're the jester, then their plan is busted when the real jester is NKed.Skruffs wrote:Why do you say this? What is your reasoning?
The mafia have two options. They can either:
a. Act like town, as they would in a normal game.
b. Act like a jester.
Now if two people are acting really jestery, and one is NKed andwasthe jester, then the other one is mighty scummy, no? Because town have no reason to act jestery.
Thus, I believe it is very risky for the mafia to act like the jester.
Skruffs was saying that the mafia want to claim jester, as it's their only fake claim. This is why I disagree.
I'm saying they would look genuinely scummy, as in being actual scum.Kmd4390 wrote:So what is your opinion on players acting jestery if the real jester ends up NK'd?Crazy wrote:This is hypothetical. I was answering Skruffs' question.Rishi wrote:Why do you assume that's the Mafia's plan?Crazy wrote:If the jester is lynched, everyone else loses. If the mafia make it seem like they're the jester, then their plan is busted when the real jester is NKed.Skruffs wrote:Why do you say this? What is your reasoning?
The mafia have two options. They can either:
a. Act like town, as they would in a normal game.
b. Act like a jester.
Now if two people are acting really jestery, and one is NKed andwasthe jester, then the other one is mighty scummy, no? Because town have no reason to act jestery.
Thus, I believe it is very risky for the mafia to act like the jester.
Skruffs was saying that the mafia want to claim jester, as it's their only fake claim. This is why I disagree.
Are you saying they look scummy for doing so or scum probably wouldn't do this?
I'm thinking the first is probably more likely.
Well, considering my vote is only worth "1", where to lynch someone you need ">1", no, I do not "do" that in regular games. In this game, though, it is a fitting thing to try and do, as the jester is not likely to act protown adn the mafia are, also the mafia know that there are no cops or SKs so the threat of being exposed by acting pro town is reduced to 0 unless they themselves are lynched - which - if they are acting pro town, won't happen.Crazy wrote:Yes, but lynching the pro-town people isn't the answer. Do you do that in regular games?Skruffs wrote:Interesting.
You are agreeing with the very first thing I Said - that scum are going to act pro-town, and that scum acting like a jester is risky, and yet you say I am not making sense "this whole game"?
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So why would they try to kill their only chance at having a safeclaim? You are contradicting yourself. Is it intentional?Crazy wrote:If the jester is lynched, everyone else loses. If the mafia make it seem like they're the jester, then their plan is busted when the real jester is NKed.Skruffs wrote:Why do you say this? What is your reasoning?
forbiddanlight wrote:Um...why? I was kinda joking around when I voted crazy.Unvote Crazy, vote raverblood
Seriously, reasoning?
So... I'm not looking too pro-town right now, does that mean I'm off the hook?Skruffs wrote:Well, considering my vote is only worth "1", where to lynch someone you need ">1", no, I do not "do" that in regular games. In this game, though, it is a fitting thing to try and do, as the jester is not likely to act protown adn the mafia are, also the mafia know that there are no cops or SKs so the threat of being exposed by acting pro town is reduced to 0 unless they themselves are lynched - which - if they are acting pro town, won't happen.
Fallacy. If the mafia are to win, they eventually have to NK the Jester. getting him lynched makes them lose. Basically, the best mafia play is to play like normal (i.e. protown), keep an eye out for the jester, and at worst, claim it if they screw up.
So why would they try to kill their only chance at having a safeclaim? You are contradicting yourself. Is it intentional?
Um...yeah...well, ya see, mafia generally try to act pro town in ANY game. Not just Jester mafia. It's really a matter of gauging what kind of scumtells are being dropped, intentional or unintentional.
Well, considering my vote is only worth "1", where to lynch someone you need ">1", no, I do not "do" that in regular games. In this game, though, it is a fitting thing to try and do, as the jester is not likely to act protown adn the mafia are, also the mafia know that there are no cops or SKs so the threat of being exposed by acting pro town is reduced to 0 unless they themselves are lynched - which - if they are acting pro town, won't happen.
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Does this mean that you think scum will act scummy and jester will act town, in a gane where those are the only two non-townie roles?Sun Tzu wrote:I changed my mind about cretin. I like him.
unvote cr3t1n; vote scruffs
"Who's acting the most protown?
Lynch them." is retarded.
If I were to choose, I'd prefer a Jester lynch day one over a Mafia lynch day 1. And Mafia lose if the Jester is lynched - if they 'let' someone who is not one of them get lynched when they are acting like the mafia would be (And that's usually what they do to get lynched), then they are allowing their own loss.Rishi wrote:Yeah, but there's been more than one game where the Jester has won on Day 1. We can't avoid the issue entirely.
This logic is horrible. a mafia lynch is ALWAYS better given the set up of this game. And mafia can't prevent lynches. They can use their voice to manipulate them, but they don't have enough numbers to prevent a lynch.
If I were to choose, I'd prefer a Jester lynch day one over a Mafia lynch day 1. And Mafia lose if the Jester is lynched - if they 'let' someone who is not one of them get lynched when they are acting like the mafia would be (And that's usually what they do to get lynched), then they are allowing their own loss.
Scum will of course attempt to act pro town, but they ALWAYS try to do that, and they get caught out by slipping on that. The jester is just a risk we all take when we try to lynch scum.
Does this mean that you think scum will act scummy and jester will act town, in a gane where those are the only two non-townie roles?
