Open 776: Korina is a Cultist

[Slaxx]

Oh god sifting through Korinas spam is going to test my ADD

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Auro is firmly in his town mindset
Farkran's mindset is transparently town
Slaxx's mindset looks town
Klick's mindset looks town
Sujimichi's thought processes look town

out of everybody else, my read on Korina matches most closely with Homura being the cultist.

plus I think that lynching her is the highest raw value of any townflip if I'm wrong

[Slaxx]

Is like more from Horuma before day end

[Alyssa The Lamb]

namely

there's two players that are this hard-lurk type player in this game, and those players are perfect to hide a cultist in since it's harder to accurately decipher which one is cult and which one isn't later on in the game.

We're likely to use our only mislynch today based on setup anyways, so using it to also remove that particular option from Korina's options is helpful to every non-cult alignment since NOW, with only one such person in the game, it's not a guessing game if the game suddenly only makes sense if one cult is having a notably weak showing in this game.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Is like more from Horuma before day end

gesundheit

[Slaxx]

To the people voting Alyssa: she is narrowin her options down pretty far. Granted they are a lot of consensus reads, but even before that she was saying the cultist hadn’t posted when only a few people hadn’t.

Do you really think the cultist, who doesn’t care who gets lynched (mostly), is committing to that? I’m not as sure.

I think Conspire has played the most conservatively in considering keeping options open for lynches.

[Slaxx]

VOTE: Conspire

[Farkran]

Ok, if i can buy that i'm probably wrong on suji, i actually agree on everything that Alyssa said in the last 5-6 posts.

Why RCE is not green in your list, Alyssa? Him and Suji might be the our "biggest" clashes so far

UNVOTE:

[RCEnigma]

namely

there's two players that are this hard-lurk type player in this game, and those players are perfect to hide a cultist in since it's harder to accurately decipher which one is cult and which one isn't later on in the game.

We're likely to use our only mislynch today based on setup anyways, so using it to also remove that particular option from Korina's options is helpful to every non-cult alignment since NOW, with only one such person in the game, it's not a guessing game if the game suddenly only makes sense if one cult is having a notably weak showing in this game.

I kinda didn't want to talk about this in detail because I wanted to see how it plays out but I guess we can force it one way or the other.

So I was thinking about how viable it would be for cult recruits to be MORE likely lynch prospects since from a town perspective they are objectively bad recruit targets and therefore less cult equity.

But that is dependent on how the game is flowing and ultimately who ends up being the day 1 Lynch.

With that in mind im confident that the n0 was not in the upper bracket players [Auro, Ank] or the lower bracket players [idk who Korina would consider here] also it feels like pandering to put myself there but for posterity it would be me and a lurker.

N0 is likely middle of the pack that aren't high priority lynches but also aren't going to lead town of their own volition.

[RCEnigma]

Oh I'd probably add chemist to the upper bracket part but I forgot he was in the game.

[Slaxx]

namely

there's two players that are this hard-lurk type player in this game, and those players are perfect to hide a cultist in since it's harder to accurately decipher which one is cult and which one isn't later on in the game.

We're likely to use our only mislynch today based on setup anyways, so using it to also remove that particular option from Korina's options is helpful to every non-cult alignment since NOW, with only one such person in the game, it's not a guessing game if the game suddenly only makes sense if one cult is having a notably weak showing in this game.

I kinda didn't want to talk about this in detail because I wanted to see how it plays out but I guess we can force it one way or the other.

So I was thinking about how viable it would be for cult recruits to be MORE likely lynch prospects since from a town perspective they are objectively bad recruit targets and therefore less cult equity.

But that is dependent on how the game is flowing and ultimately who ends up being the day 1 Lynch.

With that in mind im confident that the n0 was not in the upper bracket players [Auro, Ank] or the lower bracket players [idk who Korina would consider here] also it feels like pandering to put myself there but for posterity it would be me and a lurker.

N0 is likely middle of the pack that aren't high priority lynches but also aren't going to lead town of their own volition.

I don’t see the use in trying to outguess Korina. Each player can be analyzed from the perspective of survival vs hunting. To me, that’s leaving options open, not making definitive statements, and not inserting themselves in controversy. Out of the active players, that’s Conspire.

[Farkran]

I always assume players I'm unfamiliar with have strong town/scum games. I'm interested in the meta-townread if you want to expand on that.

I played several times with suji and i read his scumgame (the game that made him a nomination). This suji looks more like the town!suji i know than the scum!suji in that other game. His attitude is more like... asking himself questions rather than giving other people answers, if you know what i mean?

The sample size is small though, and suji is not an easy read under normal circumstances.

[RCEnigma]

Which is, scum indicative but I dunno if that is the same as cult??

[Slaxx]

Which is, scum indicative but I dunno if that is the same as cult??

Not the same, but same enough.

Look at the language in conspires iso. Lots of “I thinks”, “probably” etc.

The only thing they seem confident on is that korina didn’t randomize, actually.

[Slaxx]

I feel pretty good about the vote. I’d like more from the lurkers, but out of active players Conspire is clearly (in my mind) highest equity for cult.

[RCEnigma]

I always assume players I'm unfamiliar with have strong town/scum games. I'm interested in the meta-townread if you want to expand on that.

I played several times with suji and i read his scumgame (the game that made him a nomination). This suji looks more like the town!suji i know than the scum!suji in that other game. His attitude is more like... asking himself questions rather than giving other people answers, if you know what i mean?

The sample size is small though, and suji is not an easy read under normal circumstances.

I get what you mean, the pool to sort from fmpov is :
Farkran
Suji
Conspire
Klick
Homura
Slaxxx


Of those I'm highest on farkran/suji as town
Slaxxx right behind


Klick by virtue of just having content.

Conspire/homura

Conspire has posted but I dont know what about. Nothing has stuck so far.

[RCEnigma]

Which is, scum indicative but I dunno if that is the same as cult??

Not the same, but same enough.

Look at the language in conspires iso. Lots of “I thinks”, “probably” etc.

The only thing they seem confident on is that korina didn’t randomize, actually.

I didn't like the assumption either.

This feels a lot like a Varsoon inspired read and one that I've seen work so I wouldn't mind a conspire lynch. But homura needs posts and so does chemist before that.

[Farkran]

VOTE: Conspire i'm fine trying this. There's too little content coming from a hydra.

[Slaxx]

Conspire has posted but I dont know what about. Nothing has stuck so far.

Ding ding ding!

You don’t want to leave an impression if you’re trying to squeak through Day 1.



I agree that we need more from the lurkers. But in terms of active people in this moment, this is the way to go.

[Conspire]

This game is moving a bit fast for me tbh and Korina's spam didn't help.

~Esper

[Conspire]

I'm also not that familiar with the playlist; out of the ones I know though, I probably TR Slaxx a bit

Current thoughts: based on fun-value, I still think Korina's gonna chose someone he likes working with/is a strong player and in my mind, that's gotta be Alyssa/Farkran. Kind of changed my mind and I can see it going either way now. Either Alyssa's joke was scum indicative, or scum!Farkran made an easy push on the first thing he saw.
VOTE: Alyssa the Lamb

~Esper

[Korina]

This game is moving a bit fast for me tbh and Korina's spam didn't help.

~Esper

Well, get used to it. Spamming the game is proactive to my wincon.

[Conspire]

Which is, scum indicative but I dunno if that is the same as cult??

Not the same, but same enough.

Look at the language in conspires iso. Lots of “I thinks”, “probably” etc.

The only thing they seem confident on is that korina didn’t randomize, actually.

probably probably i think probably i think probably

~Esper

[Conspire]

I don't think I like the idea of lurker lynches either. Yes, what Alyssa said had some reason to it, but I think scum benefit of a mislynch>lurker lynch from town POV.

~Esper

[Auro]

Only prob I have with a Conspire lynch is: if I was Korina I'd be very wary of making an unknown hydra cult, because of the potential for awkward hydra dynamics.