Open 776: Korina is a Cultist

[insomnia]

I'm using the ancient technique that's been passed on to me for centuries, first post scum hunting. I honestly think that's the highest chance I have at catching a scum today.

Slaxx has a typical first scum post. Doesn't look to gauge out reactions to help him infer anything, it's done with the mindset of "I gotta start strong, charismatic so I don't get lynched"

First

non treestump checking in

@treestump so who did you recruit?

Pedit: gdi

Gauges a reaction.

lol really?

you culted me n0?

Gauges a reaction.

My role PM says I'm the Antichrist, what does that mean?

Gauges a reaction.

My role PM says I'm the Antichrist, what does that mean?

It means if you combine with Christ you make water and a pillar of salt

I look so good.

[Farkran]

VOTE: Conspire i'm fine trying this. There's too little content coming from a hydra.

I've massively overgamed myself as always. I'll catchup and give thoughts tomorrow.

-Cosmic

Still waiting for this, i'd like some hard stances

So far the content is scarce, all we have is this

So, I don't think Korina's gonna be looking to recruit someone who doesn't enjoy scum; especially on night 0. I know of a few players in this list that have said they don't enjoy scum as much as town before, but the question is whether Korina is also aware of those preferences.

I think he's incentiviced to pick overall strong players that we are likely to keep around for at least a day or two even if we scumread them, since their reads would be useful if town.

-Cosmic

I do agree Korina's choices are probably not random though. Korina needs someone who will stick around and random!culting could affect that. Insisting on random culting sends us on a wild goose chase.

~Esper

It's definitely not random though. That's just boring.

-Cosmic

Which i agree with, but the conclusion is this:

I'm also not that familiar with the playlist; out of the ones I know though, I probably TR Slaxx a bit

Current thoughts: based on fun-value, I still think Korina's gonna chose someone he likes working with/is a strong player and in my mind, that's gotta be Alyssa/Farkran. Kind of changed my mind and I can see it going either way now. Either Alyssa's joke was scum indicative, or scum!Farkran made an easy push on the first thing he saw.
VOTE: Alyssa the Lamb

~Esper

Feels like the easy side of the push, trying to consolidate the counterwagon

[Auro]

You don't feel like Homura/Conspire are easy pushes?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

what

[insomnia]

You don't feel like Homura/Conspire are easy pushes?

I know this isn't directed towards me, but I'll just say this is a bad angle to argue on because of Day 1 and only one person is scum, and they don't want the attention.

One person doesn't have the pull to setup these lynches, and your argument is based on the premise that "they're really easy pushes so they must be town" in a game where town are directing the narrative, at least for now.

Just because someone looks like a lynchbait here doesn't mean they're town.

[Farkran]

You don't feel like Homura/Conspire are easy pushes?

No, Alyssa has always been the longest wagon when the others formed. She has been the easy push for the whole game so far, doesn't mean it isn't correct. My point is that several people tried probing the ground elsewhere while conspire did not.

pedit: insomnia, it's true that there are no associatives to make, but scum is there and has a scum agenda to push a mislynch, the easy push argument isn't completely moot. Still, i don't think anyone has been an easy push besides Alyssa so far

[Auro]

My question does not carry that premise. I interpreted Farkran's last point as Conspire picking the "easy side of the push" and scumreading them for it; if that was true then he should also scumread people pushing other easy (in the sense of a lot of people pushing them) slots such as Homura/Conspire.

I'm not implying that easy push == town.

[insomnia]

UNVOTE:

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Who were the slots voting me throughout the game?

I want to check something

[Farkran]

mod iso

should be comprehensive iirc

[insomnia]

Meh fuck it, Slaxx looks good in his other posts.

[Auro]

Things will Klick into place soon, Insomnia :3

[insomnia]

VOTE: Conspire

Should be L-2.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Ehhhhh

Remind me to look at the farkran votes too

I have an idea but I need time to get to it since I'm at work atm

[Auro]

One more angle: Don't you guys think cult would be having, ya know, more fun this game?

@Alyssa: Please read Conspire's ISO again - I don't think he's cult.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Bleh

I don't think I can accurately judge conspire under this lens without knowing their identities

So this might just be a dead end

[Alyssa The Lamb]

One more angle: Don't you guys think cult would be having, ya know, more fun this game?

@Alyssa: Please read Conspire's ISO again - I don't think he's cult.

I think the farkran wagon is more suspicious than mine in a vacuum but it also depends a lot on how each vote happened and roughly each spot's experience with both of us

[Auro]

But whoever they are, it's more likely than not that as cult their tone would be different from what it is, no?
And do you not think the argument that they're a bad pick by virtue of being an unknown hydra holds any merit?

[Auro]

I'm not being a contrarian on purpose btw.

[Farkran]

lol really?

you culted me n0?

Ok then, if korina answered me truthfully then this also must be the truth, otherwise i could have no idea about who was recruited

VOTE: Alyssa

VOTE: Alyssa The Lamb

VOTE: Farkran

VOTE: Farkran

Dude is making a big-brained play and was actually recruited N1

Calling it

VOTE: Farkran
Has like +++ cultist equity which is as much as we can hope for D1 in this setup.

lol really?

you culted me n0?

Oh shit yeah

VOTE: Alyssa The Lamb

VOTE: Alyssa

VOTE: Alyssa The Lamb
Sorry for hammering so early, were you cult

doublevote -ndr

VOTE: Farkran

To be more clear i am not RVSing, i think the joke is not actually a joke.

The same thing happened in the previous cult game where blatant scum claimed CL d1

I want alyssa lynched

Do you still believe this is true?

Blatant Scum's whole shtick is claiming scum/cult regardless of alignment. So, why use that as an example to cultread Alyssa for doing it?

-Cosmic

Hello.

VOTE: Alyssa The Lamb

VOTE: Farkran

VOTE: Alyssa The Lamb
Suji, do consider sheeping me here.

I'm also not that familiar with the playlist; out of the ones I know though, I probably TR Slaxx a bit

Current thoughts: based on fun-value, I still think Korina's gonna chose someone he likes working with/is a strong player and in my mind, that's gotta be Alyssa/Farkran. Kind of changed my mind and I can see it going either way now. Either Alyssa's joke was scum indicative, or scum!Farkran made an easy push on the first thing he saw.
VOTE: Alyssa the Lamb

~Esper

Up to date, sorted chronologically

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm thinking in different terms than that atm Auro

[insomnia]

I think they have fun early game and the way we make them out themselves is if we, ourselves, the towns, don't have fun at all.

[Farkran]

I don't think Chemist and Klick are cult, Auro is currently one of my highest townreads

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Yuuuuup conspire has the worst votes of the bunch

[Alyssa The Lamb]

If the heads aren't notable for syncing together easily, those two posts can very easily be scum indicative too