Open 776: Korina is a Cultist


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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:53 pm

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What if Korina stopped posting because they thought they were spewing slots too hard?
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:12 am

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I reread again. I noticed a few things that could point to cult!Slaxx, but... i don't think he would flake when prodded if my theory was correct. It was about how Korina addressed slots to hunt the anarchist - he addressed several slots (Auro, me, klick, RCE) directly, but when he talked to Slaxx the post was about Alyssa instead ().

I still don't like Alyssa slot much, i think i want her over GIF. If we can agree that she's not as obvtown as she wants to sell herself as, i think that's the correct lynch for today.

VOTE: Alyssa

Let me know where i am horribly mistaken with this read, and don't let klick be the plurality lynch
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:17 am

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I'm disappointed
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:21 am

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Someone has to be cult. I think GIF is not the correct choice.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:33 am

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Alyssa is too scummy to be scum :P
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:38 am

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how does that even work
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:46 am

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do you want to know the funny part about this setup?

I think town has higher odds of winning by mislynching day 1 than hitting cult
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:47 am

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I went back to CoC because I remember defending Ank with meta there against shoshin and wanted to remember what my meta read was in the first place.

I feel like it still holds true here that Ank place as a gamestate manipulator. I think the fact Korina felt they had to push the game in a direction the wanted with the spam posting strongly suggest Ank isn't the cultist.

Or mostly that the cultist they recruited isn't a player that is going to warp the gamestate towards the cult agenda efficiently.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:47 am

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Probably accurate yeah.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:18 am

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Fark Alyssa can't be the lynch
She's in the townbloc!
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:21 am

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Ank makes more sense to be culted Night 1 if Korina has any meta with her. I think it’s a terrible N0 pick.
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:21 am

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In post 935, insomnia wrote:Ank makes more sense to be culted Night 1 if Korina has any meta with her. I think it’s a terrible N0 pick.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:25 am

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I think leaving you N0 in order to build a platform of trust among towns and wiggling into the town leader spot is better if it implies you getting culted afterwards.

If you were culted N0, that wouldn’t have happened, you wouldn’t be town and I think you’d struggle with actually hunting, you’d just be going through the motions, and thus you’d neither be followed or trusted.

This all implies you have a weak scum game which I have no evaluation of, or maybe not weak but just “not in the mood” to play scum, I guess, I kind of associate your scum play with mine for no reason, probably because you like playing town more and are good at it.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:28 am

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I actually prefer scum, it just has very real weaknesses that prevent it from being playable every game
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:28 am

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In post 931, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:do you want to know the funny part about this setup?

I think town has higher odds of winning by mislynching day 1 than hitting cult
Realistically town only wins if the antichrist is targeted at night.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:31 am

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that's the most likely possibility yes

but relying on that is meaningless, so I'm discounting that in my theory
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:35 am

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In post 934, Klick wrote:Fark Alyssa can't be the lynch
She's in the townbloc!
My townbloc core is {Fark, klick, Auro}, followed by insomnia, Slaxx, Homura, RCE, Suji. I never accepted Alyssa in my townbloc. I would be fine working with Auro and klick, but Auro is voting klick, and klick is voting homura.

At least two of us are wrong, possibly all three. I will not vote inside that townbloc though and i will do everything i can to prevent those people from being lynched
today
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Aside from that, i can accept being wrong through reasoning. I am not the most accurate reader in the town, generally speaking, i am more adept at following good reasoning coming from other people who see things between the lines better than me. So far i have seen none though, only overthinking, tinfoil theories and bets.

@Auro, who's scum if klick is town?
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:46 am

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I'd love to have Auro in the townbloc but he thinks I'm scum :(

I think your top five townreads are all solid. Why RCE/Suji below Homura?
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:20 am

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In post 942, Klick wrote:I'd love to have Auro in the townbloc but he thinks I'm scum :(

I think your top five townreads are all solid. Why RCE/Suji below Homura?
I think Homura cult equity is equal to rand if korina randed, less than rand if korina handpicked. It's just not a name i would consider for my n0 recruit, not even by wifom means
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:48 am

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you're relying too much on trying to outguess the cult leader rather than what actually happened
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:54 am

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I do think there's some credit to that like I said earlier, and he'd have to think about someone who he actually thinks will survive 2-3 days in this game and even considering WIFOM that's not a totally safe bet. Still not really a clear though, more of a flat towntell than a clear.
But why are RCE/Suji lower? Are they just mostly null for you?
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:02 am

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Farkran, can you summarize my reasoning for Klick cult and then demonstrate which parts of it are "bad"?
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:03 am

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In post 676, Auro wrote:
In post 609, Klick wrote:Auro, I'm willing to do gambits, but I'm not this silly
If I were cult this game would be ez win.
Meanwhile there's pretty clear town motivation in my play if you think about it
. I thought you were doing the same thing I was.
This appeal -- especially the bolded -- feels scummy.
So why did you think this Auro? Why did you think this was likely to come from cult-Klick instead of town-Klick?
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:04 am

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If I'd read your last post there Auro I probably would have waited for you to get an answer first lol.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:17 am

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