Open 776: Korina is a Cultist

[GuyInFreezer]

RCE never voted anyone else than klick, and he never unvoted either since 197. That post you quoted does not seem a reconsideration of the klick slot, so i don't get how your push is based on RCE's "return" to klick when he never changed his mind about his highest scumread.

Doesn't that make it worse? Considering there was barely any development between 515 and 617.

[Auro]

Weren't they lurking then anyway?
I was pushing Klick, that could've knocked Klick to the bottom to him, no?
He could've thought a Klick vote was better than lurkers, etc

He didn't townread Klick, Klick was nullscum tier
etc

[GuyInFreezer]

But nothing in his posts between 515 and 617 show that, hence me claiming that there are barely any development.

[Auro]

[GuyInFreezer]

Like I would randomly develop a read out of nowhere with confidence that nobody expects, but that's because it's me.
And I already know that I'm usually the oddball of a player so I should definitely not put my standard onto others.

[GuyInFreezer]

He could've thought a Klick vote was better than lurkers, etc

I was commenting on this to be specific.

[Auro]

I began to push Klick between 515 and 617, voted Klick, RCE was townreading me I think, so I don't see why you'd call it a "read out of nowhere"

[Sujimichi]

Perhaps I misread the intention behind his list; however, he did still have Conspire and Homura below Klick in his list of players to sort and I am not seeing where he made an attempt to do so.

[Auro]

Homura do you think Alyssa is cult?

His cultist meaning? Korina?

Homura do you think Alyssa is cult?

Largely diminished how exactly

A slot that's hard to differentiate doesn't suddenly become less valuable to cult when town is aware of the value within it. It's only true when there's only one such slot in the game, which there isn't.

I feel like we're on two different pages here. You said I'm hard to differentiate because I'm a lurker, which means Korina gains more value from culting me. But now that I've been wagoned and I'm in several players' lynchpools, Korina recruiting me later in the game is high risk, because I'm under scrutiny. My slot has already lost its value by engaging in this 1v1 with you.

Homura do you think Alyssa is cult?

Yes, I think she has higher cult equity and is pushing me to take the pressure off of her.

How does cult gain from clearing you as a cult target in that case?

What does Alyssa gain by pushing you against conspire who is a stronger wagon with more weight behind it?

Or what you think about conspire's equity. In as many words as you want.

This doesn't count? What would you expect otherwise?
(keep in mind Conspire was lurking then)

[Auro]

Like if he had stated "Oh, I scumread Klick more now" or "Oh, I guess I'll sheep Auro then" you wouldn't scumread him for it?
I thought it was pretty obviously the latter

[Sujimichi]

He dropped his questioning of Homura without receiving a full response, so I would at a minimum expectation for him to continue to press there if the question he asked was genuine. He did not give his reason for his "return" vote on Klick, but it would have been better if he stated it explicitly rather than leaving us to assume a reason, yes.

[Farkran]

It really doesn't seem to me that RCE ever wanted to remove klick from his scumreads, at the very least. He might have been trying to reevaluate, but klick never got any higher than third highest scumread, best case scenario. Conbfias isn't inherently scummy.

I don't see a solid case against RCE, but i still get the impression that suji is not paying enough attention to the game ever since his very first posts. Perhaps this is a consequence of the new setup, scum!suji doesn't seem to be the distracted type.

I still think RCE isn't any >rand scum though

[Auro]

When you're hunting for one cult out of 9, that (transparency to that level) would be a very misleading metric

[Auro]

I think I could vote GIF actually, I don't buy that he believes there was "no lack of development".

[Auro]

VOTE: Klick
Sigh.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I need to double check my reads I think

[Klick]

VOTE: Klick
Sigh.

Fwiw I'd have totally switched over to GIF as scum when you switched to RCE for the plurality advantage.

[insomnia]

Hammer?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

UNVOTE:

[Klick]

No one's at L-1, and Alyssa was already voting no one

[Alyssa The Lamb]

holy shit have I really voted nobody all game?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

that's incredible

page 44 and I've voted nobody

[insomnia]

VOTE: RCEnigma

[Alyssa The Lamb]

did I ever say why I was townreading slaxx?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

nah slaxx is town

VOTE: RCEnigma