BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[BooneyToonzExpert]

INTROUDUCING:

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does this post mean anything?

-K

I'm sure it does. And it will drive me crazy.

P.S.

Hello Everyone.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

No real scumpings from the active posters other than Nomo. I thought JJH's explanation was a little overdone too but apparently that's NAI.

I'd like to see chkflip show off this legendary posture of his.

VOTE: chkflip

VOTE: Chkflip

VOTE: Chkflip

The customary vote a naked vote with a naked vote.

VOTE: Auro

[BooneyToonzExpert]

No real scumpings from the active posters other than Nomo. I thought JJH's explanation was a little overdone too but apparently that's NAI.

I'd like to see chkflip show off this legendary posture of his.

VOTE: chkflip

VOTE: Chkflip

VOTE: Chkflip

The customary vote a naked vote with a naked vote.

VOTE: Auro

[BooneyToonzExpert]

well, unless you decide to lynch me d1 ofcourse. Which might prevent like, a global pandemic.

But itll make the game a lot more boring.

Yep.

Yep

Shouldn't we want to prevent a "global pandemic"?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

is there anything in your role description that suggests it may be desired for you to infect specific roles/players, or is it just an indiscriminate compulsive millerizer?

I also think it might be a spin on the sticky fruit vendor BT role with the "pass it along" aspect. Also, does the effect last for the entire game or just the night they catch the virus.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I dno Booney, would you prefer to have a guaranteed mislynch over just handling it smartly?

Having two extra millers on designated persons aint that big of a deal most likely.

Regardless, this topic is already starting to bore me. If you wanna lynch me, convince people im scum

I don't wish to lynch you, Vecna. I just want to make sure I understand your role.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

What's interesting it that nobody has ever given a shit about me explaining things in detail before. Because it's kinda dumb to think town!me isn't gonna give a full explanation for something when there os one and there's someone asking for an explanation, and there's no downside to me explaining it. I'd like those who think that post I made was weird to read it with context and explain why they think it's weird outside of this idea that I can explain my thought process.

Dave has played with me before. He doesn't get a free pass.
VOTE: davesaz

Interesting you vote me for something I noticed during catchup, but didn't refer to anyone else who made the same observation about it being a lot of explanation. It's also interesting to note that I specifically said that I didn't remember the context (and still don't). So you'd like to have it looked at in context -- fine, that's part of the plan anyway.

This is not likely S v S. Gut says S v T but not certain.

If JJ is scum and Dave is town, then I agree.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Shallow work, no intricate hunting, and to go to such great extents to actually post it without a remote spark in her head going “this is too easy, is it really true?” + her making it sound confident is coming from scum more often than town.

A town wouldn’t have even bothered to post such nonsense. Let alone appearing as if they actually believed what they were saying.

Can you rephrase this? I read it three times and don't get it.

I’m saying you team building this early and selling it like you actually believe it is inherently scummy.

You shouldn’t have that level of confidence. The simple fact you actually posted it is baffling. Do you honestly believe in that pairing?

I post theories for feedback if I see a weird pattern develop. It's not a 100% lock theory. I rarely have a lock theory day 1. I hate day 1s overall. No hard data to see agendas. I read people in relation to each other.

Titus is town. No way this is a scum post.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'm just going to comment on posts I find interesting as I catch up.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Then he tries to deflect attention back to the other people who discussed the long explanation, and it looks like he also tries to diffuse the situation by backing off. However, I quite clearly stated that the reason I've singled him out is because he's played with me before and doesn't get the free pass to misunderstand my play that people who haven't played with me get.

I think jjh is town now.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Articulate a read on me

I just saw this is pop up after my last post. Let's see how it goes from here on with my catchup and your slot

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Venus and Mars

Venus and Mars are conftowned as well.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Why are you deflecting? You realised what asinine point you’ve made?

In the morning I’ll wake up and have a timeline of events and a slip case because certain people aren’t seeing it which is just mind boggling.

On the fence with Chronos. Probably town but I'm not familiar with Chronos but seems a little to aggressive this early in the game to be scum.

I'm going to townlean this slot and if it bites me in the ass later on, then chomp chomp baby.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: Xtoxm

Bad reasons for votes, excessive reliance on mech talk and doesn’t really appear to be solving.

~M

by which you mean vote singular since i only made one real vote
we have enough history that you should know excessive mech is my M.O., so scumreading me for it isnt a good look for you

is there anything in your role description that suggests it may be desired for you to infect specific roles/players, or is it just an indiscriminate compulsive millerizer?

I also think it might be a spin on the sticky fruit vendor BT role with the "pass it along" aspect. Also, does the effect last for the entire game or just the night they catch the virus.

i have a first guess for who you are :3
low confidence low, need more content

Well, let me know what you think. It's intriguing.

Just stating right now that I will not confirm/deny and guesses.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

any*

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

Does anyone else pronounce chkflip as Chick-Flip?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Fyi, @chk, my best friend is dead, so you can stop behaving like an asshole to me. thanks.

My condolences.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: Booneytoonz Expert

I'd still lynch Fonz but I didn't totally hate exactly one of his posts so this is now better

-K

I'm here I'm here.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

do you have an identity read on BTE yet?
if im right then he's in line with scum meta but im not nearly confident enough to out that read yet

I doubt you're right about my identity if you think you can SR due to meta after 4-5 meaningless posts.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: BooneyTunzNoob

If you are voting me on inactivity, well you can unvote. I'm here now baby. Let's do this! Together.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

did you know who jesus L was btw i always wondered that

Nero?

What if I said I am Jesus, would that help you?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

You locktowned KK yet?

No, I'm afraid of that slot.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

You locktowned KK yet?

far too early for locktowning anyone

When I say lock town, that basically translate to SOLID TOWN READ. And is meant as a personal read without any hard evidence.

Bascially I can just null everyone but that doesn't help me sort players personally.

I want to sheep Venus and Mars because they are solid town imo. But Nancy's early game reads do not always pan out. But if they can stay alive long enough they will give us good info.

KK looks like a lynch option. But there are lots of slots that I haven't really dove into yet.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

When I say lock town, that basically translate to SOLID TOWN READ. And is meant as a personal read without any hard evidence.

okay.
for me its an extreme high confidence read and i'll be personally upset post game if i give one and it turns out wrong

I get that. But I like to TR people first as I feel its easier. Then the SRs start to get easier for me once the pool of non-TR players gets smaller.

My mind doesn't work well when its scattered. I need to filter quick and focus on people to read them. If I leave everyone as a possibility I can't sore any slots.

I don't know of any player that has consistent 100% correct Day 1 reads.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Well, let me know what you think. It's intriguing.

Just stating right now that I will not confirm/deny and guesses.

aww but if i get it right can you? :3
my guess was rcenigma

are there actually more than one head in your slot btw?

I'm not a hydra.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Expert, have we ever played together?

Maybe.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

One more then I'll stop and won't say shit.

Have I ever sent you a non-game-related PM?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Welcome back.

Uh, ok. Thanks.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

snip...
But if they can stay alive long enough they will give us good info.
...snip

Imagine I don't have the vaguest clue about Nancy and explain why the above is true please.

In short, I think the Nancy head has better mid-late game reads and solves than her early reads.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I sr any slot that votes me for what I think is bad reasoning.

This is an example of why Nancy's early game is not reliable. Nancy always gets lots of attention because of her number of posts and some people get paranoid and think they are being played. Later in the game those feelings subside on both sides and we get some objective solving from them and people will either SR or TR this slot based on the game alone.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: George Bailey

2 unexplained lazy votes back to back.

I know I just said Nancy's early game is unreliable, but its ok to push this slot for now to see how it pans out.

VOTE: George Bailey

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also,

I'm not trying to ignore Shiro. Honestly, I don't know who is assigned to V or M. I just assume Nancy always posts.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: Titus

I think the way Xtoxm and Venus engaged was townie.

I can't really see why Venus and Booneytunez were town reading that Titus post and I still sustain my belief that this is most likely a scum slot.

I just suck at reading Titus so if someone makes a compelling case on that slot that makes sense to me then I may go. But I have trouble convincing myself that Titus is scum, especially on D1.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Sheeping fits me well at this early stage and Vecna seemingly wants to be lynched, or is at least daring us to lynch him. So back to:

VOTE: Vecna

[BooneyToonzExpert]

With a bunch of nulls, probably. I TR like 4 people right now.

Who are these lucky 4?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Unrelated but last game I played I actually re-checked my role PM because I felt everyone else was town, at one point

@x: Slightly +town from your activity.

Have you rechecked your Role PM this game? Because how you answer this may decide your alignment.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Town

Jjh927, Venus and Mars
Krazy Katz, Auro

Null:

Vecna, Titus, Sore feet, Mechanic, The Fonz, Conspire, BooneyToonzExpert, Davesaz, Chronos
Chkflip, Kakeguri Addicts
nomnomnom

Scum

The lucky 4 gets a "nice" from me in a consecutive post

I'm particularly interested in this

Townreads are 4 of the 5 top posters

Who of the Top 5 posters is not in the Lucky 4?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Town

Jjh927, Venus and Mars
Krazy Katz, Auro

Null:

Vecna, Titus, Sore feet, Mechanic, The Fonz, Conspire, BooneyToonzExpert, Davesaz, Chronos
Chkflip, Kakeguri Addicts
nomnomnom

Scum

The lucky 4 gets a "nice" from me in a consecutive post

I'm particularly interested in this

Townreads are 4 of the 5 top posters

Who of the Top 5 posters is not in the Lucky 4?

I can find answers myself. The answer is XT/Stinking Feet.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Sore Feet,

Let's discuss this possible scenario. You are on the scum team with Vecna and Vecna's claimed role is truthful.

Would you have advised Vecna to out his role the way he did? Or would scum!you advise another strategic route?

Best Regards,
B. T. Expert III

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Have you rechecked your Role PM this game?

Yes.
If this weren't a Booney U-Pick I would've scumread your ass for role-fishing btw

I wasn't role fishing. I was alignment fishing.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I fail to see how asking him or ANYONE else for that matter this kind of question, is a valid attempt to sort?

Maybe not for you, but having a direct exchange with someone helps me gauge them. Regardless of how "vaild" the question is.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I also didn’t care for you calling sore feet, “stinking” feet. It looked like an attempt to shade without explanation.

In due time my friend.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Sore Feet,

Let's discuss this possible scenario. You are on the scum team with Vecna and Vecna's claimed role is truthful.

Would you have advised Vecna to out his role the way he did? Or would scum!you advise another strategic route?

Best Regards,
B. T. Expert III

i would have strongly advised against. as claimed, the recipients of the virus don't know what it does, only that they must pass it on. town figuring out that it millerizes is not a logical step, and a mislynch would almost certainly occur before town came to that conclusion. i would definitely want to keep it hidden on d1, perhaps have vecna claim something like - "i have a power but the mod wont tell me what it does" at most (if we wanted to go the route of claiming the role, as opposed to keeping it hidden entirely). on n1 we would probably want to infect 2 town that arent townread to ensure they remain mislynchable for the rest of the game, and maximize chances of a false guilty occuring. infecting a scum here is a possible choice, but seems low value, since a mislynch is required to occur before town realises whats going on. it may still be worth, something to think about as day progresses and into n1. on d2 i expect the infected would claim it, and that they must pass on it, at this point. perhaps they would be leashed to each other by town, or perhaps not - town doesnt know yet about the millering. correct deductions seem unlikely, chance of further spread is high. the decision would now need to be made whether to have vecna claim that he is the source of the virus, and either that he doesnt know what it does, or that it does nothing itself, but relates to him. perhaps he could try a benign 3p gambit, or perhaps he could claim that he unlocks abilities based on the number of people infected. staying hidden would confirm the source as a scum power, and be vulnerable rolecop-type invests, but still seems better than claiming it the way he has.

if he and i were scum together he has either not sought my advice, or sought and disregarded it, and i imagine that i'd be busing him on principle somewhere in the front half of the wagon since i dont like teammates that make dumb decisions and wont work with me.

-x

I read this multiple times and I just have to TR this slot.. It feels like it has copy and paste potential like that Scummies post award.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

So you're 100% okay with the game millerizing if he's being honest and losing to some strange cult-like 3rd party bullshit we won't be able to get ahead of if he's lying?

I'm just curious where your line is, Fonz.

I'm OK with the game millerizing. I suspect the game is balanced such that it will ultimately not matter too much, and that a single mislynch is more costly.

I agree with this, but I'm ok with lynching Vecna too.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

So your stance is that lynching Vecna is suboptimal but you're happy to do it anyway?

No, what I mean is I think you are right about any millerizing and its effect on that balance of the game. But I also don't think vecna would be a mislynch.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: BooneyTunzExpert

-Vecna said he'd not be posting till Monday/Tuesday so his "not answering" in the last 1 day is not scummy

It's Wednesday.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Im leading wagon. I probably shouldnt have signed up for this. I dont even feel a desire to fight this stuff

You people should listen to JJH and actually find some scum to lynch.

ill continue to slack actually. Playing PoE is a lot more fun atm

Mr. Scott,

Can you still defend this?

Always,

B. T. Expert III

[BooneyToonzExpert]

BEF you're BooneyTunzExpert? lol

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[BooneyToonzExpert]

1610 should have been an:

UNVOTE:

[BooneyToonzExpert]

t BTE seems slightly scummier with the way he was pushing you, so eh?

When did I push MS? I just asked him a question?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Well, let me know what you think. It's intriguing.

Just stating right now that I will not confirm/deny and guesses.

aww but if i get it right can you? :3
my guess was rcenigma

are there actually more than one head in your slot btw?

We did it boys!

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Bte is bef? Tell me you're town with a straight face and I'll unvote.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Something happened and a SECRET ROLE POWER was activated and I had to

immediately

send out 3 poisonous barbs to 3 players.

I was not told what they do and I was not allowed to talk about it until I chose the targets.

I thought about sending one to Titus but the word poisonous made me stop it as it could have a negative effect, again I have no idea what they do or if they can be passed along. I also do not know if it has a connection to Mod's mid-game announcement.

So I picked Vecna solely because of his claim and the other 2 were randomly chosen. So it's wait and see what happens with the barbs I guess.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@BTE what is your current read on RCE? If you think he’s actually town, I’ll unvote him.

RCE is a slowburn with me. I think I would have a hard time changing reads on RCE once I commit, so I'd like to keep RCE null for now.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I am not sure if what to think of BTE. My gut instinct is anti-town play, lynch. Yet he claimed it when he could have coasted on it as it was a day event. Just an odd move overall that doesn't help his alignment, whatever it is.

I didn’t choose yo send the barbs, I was obligated to do so immediately without being able to discuss it with anyone.

And if you are sour that I didn't send you something that is poisonous, then I don't know what to tell you.

We should wait to see what the barbs actually do before you pass judgement.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I also received the same item. Not sure if that means it was given to me to use, or used on me.

Fonz claimed too I think

So Vecna, GB and Fonz. When will we get to find out what it actually does?

I confirm these 3 as my targets. I don't know when we will know what they do or if they actually do anything at all.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Oh speaking of. Bef what were your selections that weren't chosen or involved in your role? This may or may not impact my read.

The barb picks have nothing to do with my role pm. I received a mid-day PM with the Secret Role Activation.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

They all received them before bte claimed he was the one that sent them. You're missing the point.

Apparently I am, so please explain it to me like I’m 5.

They all claimed to get the item around the same time then the boon post happened = less likely to be a scum play initiated by bte

As opposed to

George softing preemptively, then vecna and Fonz claim around the boon post = more likely a scum play initiated by bte.

Again, I received the PM and had to

immediately

send the items and I was banned from talking in the thread about them. It was at the same time as the mod announcement, but I don't know if they were related or perhaps if it was just a timing thing since mod happened to be online. All I know is that this secret power was activated.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I think there a case to be made that a floating turd is a rare, beautiful creature and it usually gifts you the infamous one-wipe wonder.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

TIL floating turds are called Steatorrhea.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'm trying a different style of questionining here, so bear with me.

BooneyToonzExpert

, if you were looking for a loved one within {Michael Scott, sore feet, JJH}, and a mortal enemy within {GeorgeBailey, RCEnigma, Titus} - who would you pick from either category and why?

-Cosmic

Love: sore feet (I want to be loved by SF. MS and JJH need to wine and dine a little more)

Mortal Enemy: RCE (Afraid to fight Titus and don't really know George)

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Willing to also reconsider my townread on BTE if george ends up flipping town

Why is it impossible that we are TvT in your eyes?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'm trying a different style of questionining here, so bear with me.

BooneyToonzExpert

, if you were looking for a loved one within {Michael Scott, sore feet, JJH}, and a mortal enemy within {GeorgeBailey, RCEnigma, Titus} - who would you pick from either category and why?

-Cosmic

I honestly have no clue what any of this means?

I think it was a toned down version of FMK.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

What information do I get from lynching George?

nomnom will conftown or confscum me or something like that.


VOTE: George Bailey

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: George Bailey
Seeing what this will do.

Also, this doesn't feel like the real Dave.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'm just disappointed bef didn't pick me to marry

You weren't an option to marry.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'm not interested in lynching lurker slots on d1

You haven't completely come out of lurker status yourself from where I'm sitting.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'm not interested in lynching lurker slots on d1

You haven't completely come out of lurker status yourself from where I'm sitting.

Don't see how that's relevant to what I said.

You aren't allowed to talk about lurkers.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

The fact they've disappeared after the hammer bodes well, doesn't it?

-Cosmic

That's because you suck at hammering. I learned how to hammer from the best,

Boonskies & Co.

. That's why I get the honor to bear this name.

VOTE: Kakeguri Addicts

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was this your doing again fishy

You know it just occurred to me that BEF was fruit vendor in that last game and vended to the scum kill target, and was tracked doing so

like what is with that guy's luck and fruit vendor roles

-K

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@Titus

Did you get a fruit?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

she never really said if she's scum or not?

Do you ever think scum!Titus or town!Titus would say she is scum?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I had to compulsively send sticky fruit to everyone on N1. On the night received, the SF rolestop all actions except for any killing actions. I still don't know what the barbs do.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

If only town received it, then some people might be lying about having received it.

err body in da club gettin' fruit.

I don't discriminate based on alignments.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Then what was the point of the n1 cops ?

To make Boon chuckle.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Then what was the point of the n1 cops ?

To make Boon chuckle.

Imagine if sopmeone roleblocked you, It would have been chaos thought . It sounds so weird.

~Venus

I did think about that. I also wouldn't have been surprised if there was a N1 lightning rod of sorts.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Did anyone besides Titus not get a sticky fruit?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: Titus

I got my hammering out of the way on D1. This is L-1, no fakies this time.

Any questions related to the fruit hat I failed to answer?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

fruit that

not fruit hat

[BooneyToonzExpert]

lolcatting a lolcatter brings even more bad luck nommynoms.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

What I wanna know is; is there scum on that Titus wagon?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

l'information

On the KA wagon but not Titus:

JJH927
Conspire

On the Titus wagon but not KA:

Chronos
Krazy Katz
GeorgeBailey

On Neither wagon:

The Fonz
RCEnigma
sore feet

On Both Wagons:

Nomnomnom

Michael Scott
Chkflip
Venus and Mars
BooneyToonzExpert

[BooneyToonzExpert]

l'information EBWOP

(added davesaz)

On the KA wagon but not Titus:

JJH927
Conspire
davesaz

On the Titus wagon but not KA:

Chronos
Krazy Katz
GeorgeBailey

On Neither wagon:

The Fonz
RCEnigma
sore feet

On Both Wagons:

Nomnomnom

Michael Scott
Chkflip
Venus and Mars
BooneyToonzExpert

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Is it time that we vote the fonz?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Do you still want BTE specifically to claim?

i wanted the sticky ability claimed, which he has done
my suspicion was he was a global sticky vendor, but not everyone claimed a sticky so i wanted the exact nature of the ability made explicit
if there is more to his role then no, he need not claim

Everyone should have got some fruit. After reading both Titus' and Nomnom's PMs I don't see what could have stopped Titus from getting the fruit but there must be something out there.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@BTE, were you aware you had to send out sticky fruit to everyone N1? If so why would you stay silent on it?

I was aware but I was also banned from talking about it until after N1.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I don't think any SF should be given. Giving a SF makes the recipient ascetic for that night, and if there are roles that can get useful results we really need there to be no interference.

Well couldn't the SF interfere with the interferers? That would make them the most precious thing to have. Pair that with a loyal oh baby, does it taste good.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also venus do you two know what the rooms do before you set them up?

Well Nancy sets them up but I think we do not.

~Venus

I wonder if Nancy will ever give me a present?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I don't think any SF should be given. Giving a SF makes the recipient ascetic for that night, and if there are roles that can get useful results we really need there to be no interference.

Well couldn't the SF interfere with the interferers? That would make them the most precious thing to have. Pair that with a loyal oh baby, does it taste good.

we already have two instances of interactions we can't explain involving the fruit so it seems to not be reliable
(beyond "people are lying" which is unsatisfying)

You will learn to love the fruit.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

JJH927
Conspire
davesaz
The Fonz
RCEnigma
sore feet

Is the pool of lynches today based on the D1 and D2 wagons. RCE is in this list but JJ, dave or fonzie should be considered before voting RCE.

VOTE: JJH927

I have spoken.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

The fruits were such a negative utility it would've been better to lynch you D1 in retrospect :/ did you ever think about that?


~Esper

Me being lynched on D1 would not have stopped the fruit, I'll leave it at that for now.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Even me being Nked on N1 would not have stopped it.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I mean he's taking the classic fencesitty position of scum that don't want to bus but don't want to hard defend their buddies

How is it wrong to think this? Is it never true, sometimes true or hardly true?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Is the pool of lynches today based on the D1 and D2 wagons. RCE is in this list but JJ, dave or fonzie should be considered before voting RCE.

"Yes I would consider lynching RCE but not before we lynch one or more of these 3 town players."

I have already stated my personal precautions with RCE.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

JJH927
Conspire
davesaz
The Fonz
RCEnigma
sore feet

Is the pool of lynches today based on the D1 and D2 wagons. RCE is in this list but JJ, dave or fonzie should be considered before voting RCE.

VOTE: JJH927

I have spoken.

this list of names appears to be exactly the alive players who weren't on the titus wagon
am i right that this is what you've taken, or is there more depth to your thinking?
if yes, do you really believe in that?

This is people not on the Titus, also are included those not on Titus

or

KA wagons.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

INTROUDUCING:

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Uhhh

What is the significance of this?

Something to do with Nom's role according to the pm but its vague. Might be a Ratio to Fruits:barbs:Virus or something like that. But I haven't compared the numbers because I don't want to get all tunneled into something like what happened to me irt my wonderful BOONus Room theory from LNT.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'd say there is probably scum both on and off the wagon. Titus tried to self hammer which makes me think there is also scum off the wagon.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

JJH927
Conspire
davesaz
The Fonz
RCEnigma
sore feet

Is the pool of lynches today based on the D1 and D2 wagons. RCE is in this list but JJ, dave or fonzie should be considered before voting RCE.

VOTE: JJH927

I have spoken.

this list of names appears to be exactly the alive players who weren't on the titus wagon
am i right that this is what you've taken, or is there more depth to your thinking?
if yes, do you really believe in that?

This is people not on the Titus, also are included those not on Titus

or

KA wagons.

This is lazy AF given Titus had a guilty on her so "Off the wagon" basically translates to "Not online when she really started flailing."

What would you do if Titus was your partner and you were online after the guilty?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'd say there is probably scum both on and off the wagon. Titus tried to self hammer which makes me think there is also scum off the wagon.

what if titus knew she was hammered?

That doesn't change my stance that there are scum likely both on and off the wagon. I think POEing those off of the wagon is a more effective place to start. That's why I started with just people off both wagons. I get VCA has it flaws and can be fueled with WIFOM. Buttrying to sort this game on mech right now is just way too much for me right now and doubly so when considering who set this game up

That's why I keep coming back.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@Fonzie

3878

To help you find it.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@Fonzie

3878

To help you find it.

I’m definitely not interested in lynching Dave or Conspire today. I strongly tl both slots.

What about Fonzie?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I'm actually struggling to believe people are voting me here but I'm thinking I have 4 votes on me

Can you provide a list of 3-4 people who you wouldn't mind lynching today?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

After searching through Titus' ISO and running the programs here is what I came up with irt associations:

chkflip x62

Vecna x53

Chronos x44
Venus x41 (nancy x39 mars x38)
Auro x37
krazy x36

nom x32

scott x26
fonz x12
georgebailey x11

[BooneyToonzExpert]

No one from my Wagon list is significantly mentioned.

Is this a good or bad sign wrt my list?

I think gooooodddddddddddddddddddddddddddd goooood

[BooneyToonzExpert]

After searching through Titus' ISO and running the programs here is what I came up with irt associations:

chkflip x62

Vecna x53

Chronos x44
Venus x41 (nancy x39 mars x38)
Auro x37
krazy x36

nom x32

scott x26
conspire x23
jjh x21
fonz x12
georgebailey x11

EDIT: Added jjh and conspire association.... hmmm weird. Might be time to narrow down the list:

Conspire x23
JJH927 x21
The Fonz x12

RCEnigma x10
davesaz x7
sore feet x3

I vibe TR sore.

dave isn't the dave I know.

RCE is RCE is RCE is RCE.

Is it time to vote dave or sore feet?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I TR your slot if that's what your asking... at least I think Auro is one of you. I am not paying attention to who signs or doesn't sign the post

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Ok cool. Lol you listed Scott and Auro as different names in your list so I was curious

Oh yeah. I guess I didn't pay much attention as the amount of associations was on the higher half and I am ignoring those slots right now as a means of sorting within this data.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I go with the data baby.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I kinda think bte has to be town for that because otherwise if scum figured it out its maaaaybe super broken?

At the very least they would decide whether town only gets the chance of townclears with no chance of guilties

@bte can you remind us your reasoning on why you gave who the barbs?

-K

I think it was a mixture of people who were voting me at the time and my SRs. I was TRing Titus and that's why I didn't give her any because of the Barbs being poisonous.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Ok. Whoever gives me a list of people who claimed and what they claimed gets a present tonight.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Thanks.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Trying to mech solve a uPick that was generated in a matter of, what, a day or so, is an exercise in futility and I applaud you for trying to think outside of the box. I just wouldn't think too hard. It'd likely be more worthwhile to try to calculate other things like activity or vote polarity or something but you do you.

I would have trouble mech solving an open setup.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Not exactly, no.

Bailey lynch isn't fucking happening.

Move your votes.

I take this to mean that you would refuse?

Like I said before, I'm down for either RCE or GB.

He also suspected sore feet yesterday.

If we look at his reads from D1 to D2 I bet we'd find the clear though.

His N1 action would have been stopped by the sticky fruit right?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

The action will succeed so long as you aren’t blocked in some way.

I think it should, given the phrasing in this role PM? If Dave isn't blocked, the action succeeds. SF asceticizes someone but doesn't "block Dave"... no?

But it would have asceticized his target

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Yes, but the action succeeds as long as Dave isn't blocked. So if the target's ascetic, it still goes through. @Mod, is this correct?

My pm says the fruit role blocks all actions except killings. I know there was some fuckery with the fruit on Titus and that got us that guilty but I don't think dave would have got a result on anyone N1 that he could have confirmed.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Yes, but the action succeeds as long as Dave isn't blocked. So if the target's ascetic, it still goes through. @Mod, is this correct?

My pm says the fruit role blocks all actions except killings. I know there was some fuckery with the fruit on Titus and that got us that guilty but I don't think dave would have got a result on anyone N1 that he could have confirmed.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Update

On the KA wagon but not Titus:

JJH927

Conspire

davesaz

On the Titus wagon but not KA:

Chronos
Krazy Katz
GeorgeBailey

On the Titus wagon but not George:

Michael Scott
BooneyToonzExpert

On the KA and George Wagon:

Jjh927
Chkflip
Venus and Mars

Conspire

On the KA and George Wagon

BUT NOT

Titus wagon:

Jjh927

On None of the 3 wagons:

RCEnigma
sore feet

On All Wagons Wagons:

Nomnomnom

Chkflip
Venus and Mars

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VCA's best result chance for hitting scum points to jjh.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

If we aren't lynching sore feet then I hope they get their ducky.

HMMMMM

Nice find.

VOTE: sore feet

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Don't end the day early though.

I won't

On None of the 3 wagons:
RCEnigma
sore feet

SF skated away from all 3 wagons, does scum!RCE also do this with SF as scum buddy?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

i mean he could have targeted anyone right
we'll never know

Yes we will.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

there's something not related to my role that I should probably claim because there is a reasonable chance I have been bamboozled but I'm still kinda unsure about claiming it

Are you saying this something would affect the VCA case on you?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

LMAO HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE.

Did we just win? SF, JJH, RCE team?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

But like
that seems unlikely because I got a stuffed elephant last night and I'm guessing that was from RCE

So that's all you got last night?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

That is indeed all I got last night yes

Then I must have been rolestopped or something like that.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

wtf Elsa is here...

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I going to go hide now.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Why didn't GB claim this private alternate game when he was already getting lynched if it was real?

Could it be in reference to a BOONus round?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

If it is then RCE won that one, eh? He's the only one left.

Hey Chk, did you receive anything last night?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

...maybe.

Was it sticky???

[BooneyToonzExpert]

WAS IT SUPPOSED TO BE!?

(Why would that be my prize, mayne? I don't need that sweat.)

Maybe. Maybe not.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

chk, an inventor and a psychiatrist walk into a bar. The inventor says "I don't want to sound alarmist."

Get it?

Did you get this, chk?

-Cosmic

Mhm. Virus gimp though.

WAS IT SUPPOSED TO BE!?

(Why would that be my prize, mayne? I don't need that sweat.)

Maybe. Maybe not.

I just double-checked, guy. It's not sticky.

Now, I'm wondering why you got it and not jjh?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Although if that were the case someone else would claim ducky, since it's an item, so yeah

We got fruit, barbs, elephant, ducky and other stuff.

What item isbthis special item?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: Elsa Jay

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Anything to say, BTE?

VOTE: Elsa Jay

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Boon, can we get to know what "Pure Water" does?

Thanks.

-BTE

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Poor Conspire.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Scum are royally fucked rn

Anyway I thought Nancy was gonna put me in a boonus round with conspire so I could coordinate some shit

Can you remind me of how you are conftown again?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Hmm well I just docced Conspire if that helps

Trying to halt the SF wagon was weird. And now you are avoiding the Elsa wagon.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Pretty sure if we hammer elsa the hydrogen bomb goes off though

Pure water is also within the wagon. It disables any bomb sequences.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

GG. Wincon achieved!

[BooneyToonzExpert]

[BooneyToonzExpert]

[BooneyToonzExpert]

BTE are you sticking with 3p claim or what's up?

I'm not 3p. But I won in my heart after the Elsa wagon.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Name: BTE
Picks: n/a
Starting role: Super-Duper Fruit Vendor
Any changes to role: n/a
Current inventory: No.

N1: Err'body in da club gettin' fruit.
N2: nada, compromise game, I win. Prize is secret.
N3: Fruit sent to JJH, chk, Fonz (chk is the only one who received it)
N4: nada

[BooneyToonzExpert]

To Boon or Not To Boon

Vote Count 5.02

RCEnigma [1]:

Michael Scott

Not Voting [8]:

Venus and Mars, Chkflip, RCEnigma, Conspire, Krazy Katz, Jjh927, BooneyToonzExpert, Chronos

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to execute.

Day 5

ends in (expired on 2020-04-25 21:00:00) on

April 25th

.

Mod Notes:

Don’t be outta pocket.

Chronos will be replaced if they don’t show up by tomorrow.

Elsa Jay is not a vote option.

VOTE: Bambi Jay?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

EBWOP ( I had the compromise game on N3 not N2)

Name: BTE
Picks: n/a
Starting role: Super-Duper Fruit Vendor
Any changes to role: n/a
Current inventory: No.

N1: Err'body in da club gettin' fruit.
N2: nada
N3: Fruit sent to JJH, chk, Fonz (chk is the only one who received it)
compromise game, I win. Prize is secret.

N4: nada

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Why is the n3 prize secret?

"Sticky fruit" is not in your role name at all?

I don't know what the N3 prize does so I don't want to give information that isn't needed.

Sticky fruit is not in my role name, but on N1 I sent sticky fruit to eeveryone.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Why did only chk get fruit n3?

jjh said he didn't receive anything. Fonz didn't survive that night so no way to see if jjh or I was affected by another mechanic. But I assume jjh was.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

It would be funny if my secret item made me loyal on N3.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

so you did not self-vend sticky fruit n1? so it was "everyone else" not everyone?

The role pm says that every single player should get fruit N1. I did not self-vend. Or to be more exact, I did not receive any fruit N1.

If multiple sticky fruit are received by the SAME person on the SAME night, they count as multiple fruit but will combine into 1.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

It would be funny if my secret item made me loyal on N3.

That would imply jjh scum scenario?

EX-ACT-LY

Anyone know of any items that loyal someone up. That'd be nice to know.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

It's funny because I was playing with a scenario where you are scum and had disloyal

Did jjh confirm sticky fruit reception n1?

Yep

I got a sticky fruit and a different thing that nobody has said yet

[BooneyToonzExpert]

It's funny because I was playing with a scenario where you are scum and had disloyal

I mean I could have disloyal but that would implicate chk. That's possible too I guess.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Why not?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Nah if you were town disloyal then everyone is scum lololol

It seems like titus probably just froze on the barb destroying the fruit during the guilty

I got the item N3 so I wouldn't have been loyal/disloyal on N1.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Nah if you were town disloyal then everyone is scum lololol

It seems like titus probably just froze on the barb destroying the fruit during the guilty

Can you please explain this?

We both are confirmed as having gotten fruit n1

so bte town with disloyal would make both of us scum nancy

Not If I got the disloyal on N3 with the prize.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

If SF got an item and jjh did not, that likely confirms SF and jjh to be different allignments. This holds true whether or not BTE is town with a disloyal fruit or scum with a loyal.

No it doesn't. For the 35th time, If I am loyal or disloyal that would not have been in effect for N1. jjh didn't receive the fruit on N3 the same night as I received another item.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

If SF got an item and jjh did not, that likely confirms SF and jjh to be different allignments. This holds true whether or not BTE is town with a disloyal fruit or scum with a loyal.

Also, I think it means chk and jjh are different alignments.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Yeah, it'd seem that way, wouldn't it?

What could possibly have made that happen?

HMMMMMMMMMM
HMMMMMMM
MMMMMMMMMMMMM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Don't start acting like an idiot now, bud. It's unbecoming.

At least you know I'm town now.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

There are a fuckton of other modifiers and it's concerning that bte is limiting the options to a hypothetical guilty.

I'm just trying to get all of my info out there.


BTW, happy cake day.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Tbh I feel like BTE has been consistently coming up with awful reasons to scumread me rather than updating his read on me in light of new info

I took you out of my lynch pile yesterday. There is some questionable stuff around your role but I'm not voting you if that says anything.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Tbh I feel like BTE has been consistently coming up with awful reasons to scumread me rather than updating his read on me in light of new info

I took you out of my lynch pile yesterday. There is some questionable stuff around your role but I'm not voting you if that says anything.

... When?

4104

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also 4104 is two days ago

Well then it was 2 days again. The SF lynch day went quick that's probably why I got confused.

VCA did lead to you, but then I added in associations and you were eliminated.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also I'm a better fruit vendor than you

But I'm super-duper vendor.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Sure except since then I feel like you've been taking trash tier potshots to see what might stick

Do you think I'm scum?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Quite possibly yes

Then why would you care about my "trash talk"?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Trash tier potshots, not trash talk. Like, saying I might be scum because there's a chance that you may have got the loyal modifier somehow for all of your actions that night.

I care about it because it indicates that you're scum trying to grasp at straws to lynch a slot you thought was lynchable before

Do you think that me as the "alleged" last scum would push for a lynch even though I'm practically TR by everyone?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

What do the fruits you gave out on n3 do?

Nothing. N3 I was a split 3-shot "normal" fruit vendor.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also I had no idea there was only one scum left thanks

VOTE: BTE

Now you are grasping. I said "alleged" because someone recently said there is probably 3 scum since there is a 3p in this game.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Here.

Subject: BTDT: Confessionals

At least 1 person in this game has an alternative wincon.

3P?

Subject: BTDT: Confessionals

There is a single slot who's alignment can physically change.

So Chk, are you actually a vt or a survivor or a now?

So, based on reading this, it points to 3 scum and at least one 3P in this game.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I assumed you said alleged because I was alleging you were scum tbh

PEdit: I don't pay any attention to Nancy's mechanical posts because they're usually misunderstandings

How many scum do you assume are remaining?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

If SF got an item and jjh did not, that likely confirms SF and jjh to be different allignments. This holds true whether or not BTE is town with a disloyal fruit or scum with a loyal.

His theory is that the item he got n3 might habe temporarily given him loyal/disloyal

@bte im still a little confused; you can't send regular fruit each night?

Not every night.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: RCEnigma

needs lynching not wagoning, with the jjh lead

You mean the JJH lead from Elsa?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@RCE your feather of the devil is fake af.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

if I am silenced, I'll find a way to communicate any of my targets. So please announce if you receive fruit ASAP tomorrow.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

VOTE: Gamma

If you guys are playing some fake hammer stuff and I screw it up, I'm sorry. I have no idea what the actual VC on gamma is.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Titus and Xtoxm both didn't claim to receive Sticky Fruit, right?

I don’t remember about Xtoxm. Oh btw, just checked my inbox and I received a feather of a devil and fruit.

I confirm the fruit send.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I also sent it to jjh and 1 other person.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

RCE, confirm that you sent it? And wanna tell us why you sent it to Nancy?

Pretty sure Nancy wants to post and wouldn't risk calling it fake for the post restriction.

Only other choice was bte but I didn't want him to try and Gambit calling it fake to get out of discussion between me/him being the last lynch options.

-I can also send an item that I forgot why I wasn't sending until I reread my role. But it's a feather of the devil. If anyone denies it's existence or calls it out as not real then they will receive a feather from the last player to get one and will be unable to post, aside from voting.

Technically, if I am reading your description right, couldn't I (or anyone else) just deny it right now and I would get it from V&M?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I still maintain bef wouldn't lie to me but this is his last chance to tell me the truth so.

What did I lie about?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@BTE, can you just concede and end this game?

Et tu, Brute?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

BTE want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and chk is a better lynch than you?

chk want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and BTE is a better lynch than you?

Did you get any fruit last night?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

@BTE, can you just concede and end this game?

Et tu, Brute?

Sorry but you know, PoE. <3

Then PoE is worthless.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

BTE want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and chk is a better lynch than you?

chk want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and BTE is a better lynch than you?

Did you get any fruit last night?

Can you send it out to more than one player at a time?

I sent to 3 people last night

V&M
jjh
Krazy Katz

[BooneyToonzExpert]

BTE you said something about neighborising people?

Not I, said the fish

[BooneyToonzExpert]

BTE want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and chk is a better lynch than you?

chk want to:
-towncase yourself
-explain why one out of RCE and BTE is a better lynch than you?

Did you get any fruit last night?

Can you send it out to more than one player at a time?

I sent to 3 people last night

V&M
jjh
Krazy Katz

Well since multitasking is an option, nothing about that confirms you town.

Because you KNOW I'm town.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also, I guess at this stage I can announce I have the antique bullet.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Would the feather even work given what Boon said about last scum scenario removing voting shenanigans?

Even with feather restriction, votes are allowed IIRc

But it would look like I trying to withdrawl from "casing" myself. If people didn't have me in their "PoE" I would test it out

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Because you KNOW I'm town.

or are you accusing Nancy of being scum lol

No, Nancy

knew

I was town the moment my main got outed.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also, my main being outed was the reason the secret ability was activated and I had to send the barbs.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Also, I guess at this stage I can announce I have the antique bullet.

What is the “antique bullet”?

I don't know. I won the Bonus round and I chose to keep it for myself instead of sending it to someone else.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I think it might have something to do with Nom's role but I have no other info on it.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I hve been VCAing all game with no one really taking it serious so I stopped. Mr. Katz jumps in with VCA and it's all WOW! We have solved the game!

[BooneyToonzExpert]

I hve been VCAing all game with no one really taking it serious so I stopped. Mr. Katz jumps in with VCA and it's all WOW! We have solved the game!

Yeah last game you had the isssue of only looking at EoD VCA which is not how VCA works

I also took into account associations from flipped scum this game. But it''s all skwed now.

If I took VCA into accoutn for my vote it wouild most likely point to RCE. If RCE didn't rep into this game I would hardTR in that slot for some reason. The fact that he repped in makes my read on RCE too gray.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Nom's flip says antique bullets create neighborhoods when 2 players are have them so I wonder why that didn't happen.

me too.

You may target someone at night with an Antique Gun from the Boon Wars, and your target will receive “You got a Boonie looking bullet.” Once 2 players have received this, you will create a Boon Wars Museum neighborhood thread. This item can not be blocked by any means.

Maybe antique bullet is different from the "Boonie looking bullet"

[BooneyToonzExpert]

MAybe because nom was dead at the time I got my bullet?

[BooneyToonzExpert]

That's why I was wondering if the item made me loyal/disloyal.