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That's where MS is voting and I trust him undoubtedly.In post 1483, Venus and Mars wrote:
I think he is too, what does that have to do with BTE?In post 1479, RCEnigma wrote:Howdy partners. I've arbitrarily decide Michael Scott is town VOTE: BTE- RCEnigma
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I suggest he doesn't answer that and he should absolutely be considered townie for not answering it.In post 1495, GeorgeBailey wrote:In post 964, sore feet wrote:vecna you need to claim the pro town power you alluded to
game is stalled and i dont think significant wagons are gonna be possible until we answer "is vecna the d1 play"In post 1124, Conspire wrote:Vecna, I'd like to hear exactly what gives you the impression that Boon is suggesting there's more to how the role functions. Paraphrase please.
VOTE: GeorgeBailey
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Vecna and I weren't on the same page. Such is lifeIn post 1510, GeorgeBailey wrote:
How is this blatant?In post 1499, RCEnigma wrote:I suggest he doesn't answer that and he should absolutely be considered townie for not answering it.
VOTE: GeorgeBailey
Jesus that's blatant.
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If this was to me I don't get what you mean?In post 1500, Krazy Katz wrote:Whats with the repitition of ur auro read- RCEnigma
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Why would this be relevant?In post 1509, davesaz wrote:Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?- RCEnigma
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I have similar wording in my role pm that ambiguously suggests maybe hoods are a thing. But that could also be bs and just making the role encompass all scenarios. Even if they aren't possible in the setup.In post 1507, Vecna wrote:
I like this way of thinking (townpoints really) but I dont think its asking for what you think it is.In post 1502, RCEnigma wrote:I'm mostly talking about the conspire question. I think conspire is just trying to confirm a piece of information and George reiterating there seems like he has no idea what it is.
Vecna even bringing it up suggests he knows. And I know what he knows. All town should get what I'm getting at.
I have no idea what the mod was insinuating. He probably was just fucking with me. Why hint to me theres some other role interacting with my shit if there actually is? That seems like a no-no in a closed setup?- RCEnigma
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YesIn post 1518, Krazy Katz wrote:In post 1479, RCEnigma wrote:I've arbitrarily decide Michael Scott is town V
weird and randomIn post 1498, RCEnigma wrote:That's where MS is voting and I trust him undoubtedly.- RCEnigma
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NoIn post 1519, Krazy Katz wrote:r u scumbutt nigma?- RCEnigma
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I can only go off my role pm but only one of those is true in my selection and that's because the role is exactly word for word on of the upicks submitted.In post 1517, davesaz wrote:
As I've said (but you may not have read) it seems obvious that the mod chose role and alignment based on the picks.In post 1516, RCEnigma wrote:
Why would this be relevant?In post 1509, davesaz wrote:Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?- RCEnigma
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For claiming negative utility? You're a miller claim.In post 1525, Krazy Katz wrote:
huh this is a pretty good summary of why I supported lynching youIn post 1521, Vecna wrote:Yes, gen two wont know who it came from. but if scum infects town, theyll only get to do it once.- RCEnigma
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This is all fair tbh.In post 1531, Krazy Katz wrote:So yeah, dumping a VIRUS on day 1 seems like a totally viable strategic choice because I have 0 faith in town to play around the bullshit your role can cause- RCEnigma
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Mmm I think that's an overreaction.In post 1537, Krazy Katz wrote:effectively you should be saying "someone is so obvtown that I don't want them ever mech checked and I am confident that they will stay alive until the end of the game and not get nightkilled"
because every time scum kills your target, that means town has to millerize someone else
which is why nipping this whole shit in the bud right now is a totally legitimate strategic choice
You're assuming worst case: town invests are ungated and having the virus spread disables all checks. Or, invests are day gated and slots that need to be invested will be immune.
The suggestions here are that invests do exist. Vecna prevents follow the cop by neutering the cop. Scum lack Ascetic, jk is still possible I think?
Calling the virus shots makes things easier.
It puts town on a clock somewhat though.
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Why isn't one of those slots Krazy?In post 1556, Vecna wrote:As it stands right now im thinking of infecting JJH and George Bailey- RCEnigma
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MS had the first post I saw as vaguely townie. Then I saw chk post and thought "this oughta get him going."In post 1596, Venus and Mars wrote:It’s just too strong a read this early but it’s the blind sheeping that concerns me more.
For clarity I don't have a read on MS or BTE since I haven't read anything besides the page I repped in and beyond, and the first page.
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We did it boys!In post 698, Xtoxm wrote:
aww but if i get it right can you? :3In post 692, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Well, let me know what you think. It's intriguing.
Just stating right now that I will not confirm/deny and guesses.
my guess was rcenigma
are there actually more than one head in your slot btw?- RCEnigma
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No lol.In post 1637, Michael Scott wrote:RCEnigma do you know who the heads of Michael Scott are?- RCEnigma
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Nancy said you were the WOAT whatever that means.In post 1642, Michael Scott wrote:What did you hear about the infamous Michael Scott hydra?
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Blatantly yes.In post 1690, Krazy Katz wrote:
Rce would you make the exact same play as scum two games in a row?In post 1635, RCEnigma wrote:Bte is bef? Tell me you're town with a straight face and I'll unvote.- RCEnigma
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What if I told you I'm already out of my scumrange?In post 1709, Venus and Mars wrote:
I wasn’t thrilled with your entrance and you practically having Auro as essentially your spirit animal, seemed kind of over the top. You pretty much sheeped him on BTE without giving an independent read, which I found scummy. I did like you telling Vecna to infect Krazy and sort of null on your Vecna take. After last game where you fooled me, I would think you should expect me to be paranoid of your slot and Krazy was as well or are you conveniently forgetting that? I also wasn’t tr your predecessor, as I’ve already stated.In post 1636, RCEnigma wrote:Also Nancy still taking my initial posts at face value is ehhh. Then putting me in her scum pile and immediately voting bte is double ehhhh.- RCEnigma
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I never said I sheeped auro. MS said a vaguely townie thing. MS was voting BTE in the votecount. Then I did.In post 1710, Venus and Mars wrote:In post 1639, RCEnigma wrote:
No lol.In post 1637, Michael Scott wrote:RCEnigma do you know who the heads of Michael Scott are?
R U serious?In post 1640, RCEnigma wrote:I've heard the Michael Scott Hydra referenced. Never played with you guys
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No wait, how could you have sheeped Auro then? He voted BTE under that account.
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I'm not unfortunately. I'm trying to convince myself to go back from the top and read the game so I can actually get into it but.In post 1718, Krazy Katz wrote:RCE are you already out of your scumrange?
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I was going to say that his posting since I repped in has been uninspired and I disagree with the alignment tied to role stuff.
But he specifically town-told in his iso.- RCEnigma
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I was meaning this but I might have read it wrong.In post 1517, davesaz wrote:
As I've said (but you may not have read) it seems obvious that the mod chose role and alignment based on the picks.In post 1516, RCEnigma wrote:
Why would this be relevant?In post 1509, davesaz wrote:Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?- RCEnigma
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I definitely would and I am. I called this bullshit "oh I don't know RCE's meta" out in PFUP both days your Hydra was alive.In post 1747, Venus and Mars wrote:
That bs OMGUS isn’t helping your case any. I didn’t tr your predecessor and your recent posts don’t sound townie to me. I also don’t believe town!you would call me scum here. My vote is staying.In post 1746, RCEnigma wrote:Ooooo Nancy is so scum here lol.
I said it was an arbitrary read in the first place. It held no weight. I hadn't even read the game yet. I don't understand how you take any of that seriously much less flip it into a scumread.
Give me a townie explanation for both this MS waffling + you’re bizarre scumrange comments and I’ll consider unvoting you. Go.
I don't want you to consider unvoting me because the chronology AND reasoning on my MS was and is very clear. There was none and I said as much in my opening post. Stick to your hollow vote.- RCEnigma
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You don't have to. Scum doesn't know yet either.In post 1757, Titus wrote:
I don't see why RCE thinks scum would kill him.In post 1754, Venus and Mars wrote:
Do you think I’m jumping the gun on RCE? I don’t understand why he doesn’t view all of his waffling as scummy? Now he’s saying scum may be “forced” to kill him? Wtf?In post 1751, Krazy Katz wrote:Thinking out loud, I don't think vecna is groupscum still, but off roleclaim I'd still not commit to him being town. I'd say he's either town or traitor. I mention this because the last symbiote I remember in one of these games was a traitor. The hardclaim does also guarantee he is never targeted by a scum nightkill I think- RCEnigma
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Because you're doing the exact same thing.In post 1768, Venus and Mars wrote:
That’s exactly my point. How can you possibly think I’m scum here after that game?In post 1762, RCEnigma wrote:YOU WERE SCUM IN THAT GAME.- RCEnigma
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I'm being the aggressor, it's a vague comparison. Not literal.In post 1772, Venus and Mars wrote:
How are you “the A50 of this game”? When did I ever vote him in that?In post 1760, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Nancy
If she's town here then I'm the A50 of this game and that's unfortunate but no other lynch measures up to this one.- RCEnigma
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VOTE: NancyIn post 1773, Titus wrote:
If you push this, I'll vote you. I'm that confident in Nancy town.In post 1760, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Nancy
If she's town here then I'm the A50 of this game and that's unfortunate but no other lynch measures up to this one.
For the record I think you're town and wrong here.- RCEnigma
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How am I lying about your play? Link it I'll wait. Link both isos.In post 1777, Venus and Mars wrote:
You lying about my play in that game, isn’t exactly convincing me I’m wrong here. Do you want to link my ISO in that game or should I? Krazy was in my hydra and he can confirm, you are our of your goddamned tree if you think my play in THIS game is even in the same ballpark as PFUPS.In post 1769, RCEnigma wrote:
Because you're doing the exact same thing.In post 1768, Venus and Mars wrote:
That’s exactly my point. How can you possibly think I’m scum here after that game?In post 1762, RCEnigma wrote:YOU WERE SCUM IN THAT GAME.- RCEnigma
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There's always a possibility. But town you doesn't blatantly ignore my meta or the explanations I gave on my entrance in favor of pushing a weightless read.In post 1800, Venus and Mars wrote:@RCE, in a world where you’re actually town here, why do you not think it’s even possible I’m town and wrong about your alignment?
The fact that you auto-jumped, Nancy has to be scum, is extremely difficult to believe, especially because of PFUPS.
There's also no way I believe that my 5 or so posts you found scummy on page, whatever 65 or something. Outweighs every read you've had in the 65 pages prior.
I don't know what any of those reads are, I know vecna claimed a thing, Titus claimed a thing, and Krazy claimed a thing that makes it so I can't really properly sort them. They're in limbo.- RCEnigma
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If I crossed the line I apologize. Chk summed it up though. Nothing malicious meant by it.In post 1852, Venus and Mars wrote:
Yeah but if he was being sensitive to what happened, he still should have never invoked him but yeah, I obviously don’t think RCE thinks or would ever say those horrible things to anyone, which is why I said, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. Like he could have brought up Billy Pilgrim for example. I was sparring with him for a good part of that game and it wouldn’t have upset me in the slightest.In post 1847, Michael Scott wrote:
I have read parts of that. A50 was undoubtedly toxic.In post 1844, Venus and Mars wrote:Have you even read that game, Auro? A50 never pushed me - not in the sense of sr me. He “pushed” me by insinuating I was dumb, insane and he threatened my dead parents, then called my late mom an “asshole”. It was at the very least, extremely insensitive for RCE to have invoked him in that context. I strongly advise you to do an ISO check of exactly what A50 said to me and honestly tell me, I’m over reacting to this.
But I can guarantee you that RCE wasn't referring to any of that.
I'm only saying you're over-reacting to what you feel is RCE's implications here, when there are none really. Get what I mean?- RCEnigma
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I've read little to none of the game before my rep in but I've kept up since.In post 1864, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: unvote
i dont think rce believes he wins this duel so picking it is maybe towy
rce, is just nancys reaction and doubling down on your entrance that you sr, or is there more to it?
how of of the game have you read so hard?
Do you think Nancy is so confused on her scumreads up to page 65 that my rep in is the scummiest take she has in the game?
Additionally Nancy knows that my first posts are never serious posts and there is a switch on period to my game before I even approach solving. It was like that in LNT, it was like that in PFUP, it was like that in OK2(fair I was 3p), it was like that in TBONTB where she thought I was emulating my town game decently.
What I'll concede on the PFUP meta is that my scumread on her slot didn't come from her initially. It was Skitter mostly or whoever was captaining the ship in that Hydra day 1. But the nail in the coffin was Nancy and Skitter both refusing to acknowledge my established meta, how it fit within the co text of the game, and how it influenced my read and the pushback.
Much in the same way that Nancy is refusing to acknowledge my meta in the context of my entrance and using nai statements as scum motivation. Even though they were clarified from the start and reclarified after the fact.
There is another factor that I think would be in poor taste now since it's crossing back into sensitive territory indirectly. Which is unfortunate because it reinforces ideas I have about her scum game in general.
The only concession I would give in terms of Nancy grossly misjudging my meta is that this might(?) Be the first rep in I've had in a game Nancy was in. But I don't think it heavily impacts my overall read.- RCEnigma
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I just acknowledged it. It also took a fair bit of effort to get to that townread. It didn't solidify until the day you bombed.
I backed vecna up and will continue to do so.
I responded to Krazys questioning on Dave and that's a town slot I feel pretty good about.
So claiming I'm only focuses on you is absolutely false.
A lot of people aren't talking about anything particularly interesting. Sorry boring people, no offense.
If you claimed between pages 75-79 I haven't read it. If you claimed prior to my rep in I also haven't read it.- RCEnigma
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Why is that a townclaim if literally nothing has happened yet and there was no reason to out your role? If not to sway the shifting consensus back in your favor?In post 1954, Venus and Mars wrote:
@RCE read this and if you’re still pushing me after this, tell me why I shouldn’t view that as a scumclaim?In post 1908, Venus and Mars wrote:
And don’t ask me to reveal my selections either because I don’t want to put targets on their backs and get them NK’d.In post 1907, Venus and Mars wrote:
So, if any of the players I selected were targeted, then I need to pm Boon before day’s end and change those selections.In post 1906, Venus and Mars wrote:Actually, for those who sent the barbs, can you tell me who you targetted? Because - hard claim - I have a role where I get to reward my tr but I can only do that during the day and the players I selected need to live until at least the following day or my actions would all be for naught. - RCEnigma
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