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Post Post #1479 (isolation #0) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:45 am

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Howdy partners. I've arbitrarily decide Michael Scott is town VOTE: BTE
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Post Post #1480 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:46 am

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Uhhh how many claims are there so far?
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #2) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:30 am

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In post 1483, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1479, RCEnigma wrote:Howdy partners. I've arbitrarily decide Michael Scott is town VOTE: BTE
I think he is too, what does that have to do with BTE?
That's where MS is voting and I trust him undoubtedly.
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #3) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:32 am

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In post 1495, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 964, sore feet wrote:vecna you need to claim the pro town power you alluded to
game is stalled and i dont think significant wagons are gonna be possible until we answer "is vecna the d1 play"
In post 1124, Conspire wrote:Vecna, I'd like to hear exactly what gives you the impression that Boon is suggesting there's more to how the role functions. Paraphrase please.
I suggest he doesn't answer that and he should absolutely be considered townie for not answering it.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Jesus that's blatant.
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:34 am

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I'm mostly talking about the conspire question. I think conspire is just trying to confirm a piece of information and George reiterating there seems like he has no idea what it is.

Vecna even bringing it up suggests he knows. And I know what he knows. All town should get what I'm getting at.
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Post Post #1505 (isolation #5) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:34 am

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Well there goes that.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:41 am

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In post 1510, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 1499, RCEnigma wrote:I suggest he doesn't answer that and he should absolutely be considered townie for not answering it.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Jesus that's blatant.
How is this blatant?
Vecna and I weren't on the same page. Such is life

VOTE: BTE
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:42 am

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In post 1500, Krazy Katz wrote:Whats with the repitition of ur auro read
If this was to me I don't get what you mean?
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:44 am

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In post 1509, davesaz wrote:Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?
Why would this be relevant?
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Post Post #1520 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:46 am

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In post 1507, Vecna wrote:
In post 1502, RCEnigma wrote:I'm mostly talking about the conspire question. I think conspire is just trying to confirm a piece of information and George reiterating there seems like he has no idea what it is.

Vecna even bringing it up suggests he knows. And I know what he knows. All town should get what I'm getting at.
I like this way of thinking (townpoints really) but I dont think its asking for what you think it is.

I have no idea what the mod was insinuating. He probably was just fucking with me. Why hint to me theres some other role interacting with my shit if there actually is? That seems like a no-no in a closed setup?
I have similar wording in my role pm that ambiguously suggests maybe hoods are a thing. But that could also be bs and just making the role encompass all scenarios. Even if they aren't possible in the setup.
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:47 am

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In post 1518, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 1479, RCEnigma wrote:I've arbitrarily decide Michael Scott is town V
In post 1498, RCEnigma wrote:That's where MS is voting and I trust him undoubtedly.
weird and random
Yes
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:47 am

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In post 1519, Krazy Katz wrote:r u scumbutt nigma?
No
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Post Post #1524 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:49 am

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In post 1517, davesaz wrote:
In post 1516, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1509, davesaz wrote:Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?
Why would this be relevant?
As I've said (but you may not have read) it seems obvious that the mod chose role and alignment based on the picks.
I can only go off my role pm but only one of those is true in my selection and that's because the role is exactly word for word on of the upicks submitted.
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #13) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:51 am

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I think your role explanation is prob town and I don't have context for your claim. So there's that.
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #14) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:52 am

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In post 1525, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 1521, Vecna wrote:Yes, gen two wont know who it came from. but if scum infects town, theyll only get to do it once.
huh this is a pretty good summary of why I supported lynching you
For claiming negative utility? You're a miller claim.
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #15) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:56 am

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No I got that. Just establishing there is precedent for ambiguity surrounding roles.
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Post Post #1535 (isolation #16) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:57 am

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In post 1531, Krazy Katz wrote:So yeah, dumping a VIRUS on day 1 seems like a totally viable strategic choice because I have 0 faith in town to play around the bullshit your role can cause
This is all fair tbh.
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:58 am

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Guess I'll go read this claim stuff through.
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #18) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:10 am

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In post 1537, Krazy Katz wrote:effectively you should be saying "someone is so obvtown that I don't want them ever mech checked and I am confident that they will stay alive until the end of the game and not get nightkilled"

because every time scum kills your target, that means town has to millerize someone else

which is why nipping this whole shit in the bud right now is a totally legitimate strategic choice
Mmm I think that's an overreaction.

You're assuming worst case: town invests are ungated and having the virus spread disables all checks. Or, invests are day gated and slots that need to be invested will be immune.


The suggestions here are that invests do exist. Vecna prevents follow the cop by neutering the cop. Scum lack Ascetic, jk is still possible I think?

Calling the virus shots makes things easier.

It puts town on a clock somewhat though.

Kinda rough cuz I think vecnas townie but I can see where you're coming from.
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #19) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:54 pm

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In post 1556, Vecna wrote:As it stands right now im thinking of infecting JJH and George Bailey
Why isn't one of those slots Krazy?
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Post Post #1574 (isolation #20) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:47 pm

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This might have been talked about already but. Town can pass this virus to you correct?
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #21) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:50 pm

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In post 1596, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1590, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 1479, RCEnigma wrote:I've
arbitrarily
decide Michael Scott is town
Note the bolded
It’s just too strong a read this early but it’s the blind sheeping that concerns me more.
MS had the first post I saw as vaguely townie. Then I saw chk post and thought "this oughta get him going."

For clarity I don't have a read on MS or BTE since I haven't read anything besides the page I repped in and beyond, and the first page.

I feel like Vecna is town and Krazy is claimed miller, that's about it.
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Post Post #1635 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:51 pm

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Bte is bef? Tell me you're town with a straight face and I'll unvote.
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Post Post #1636 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:52 pm

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Also Nancy still taking my initial posts at face value is ehhh. Then putting me in her scum pile and immediately voting bte is double ehhhh.
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:57 pm

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In post 698, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 692, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:Well, let me know what you think. It's intriguing.

Just stating right now that I will not confirm/deny and guesses.
aww but if i get it right can you? :3
my guess was rcenigma

are there actually more than one head in your slot btw?
We did it boys!
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Post Post #1639 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:57 pm

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In post 1637, Michael Scott wrote:RCEnigma do you know who the heads of Michael Scott are? :P
No lol.
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Post Post #1640 (isolation #26) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:58 pm

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I've heard the Michael Scott Hydra referenced. Never played with you guys
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Post Post #1646 (isolation #27) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:13 pm

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That's enough for me UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1647 (isolation #28) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:15 pm

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In post 1642, Michael Scott wrote:What did you hear about the infamous Michael Scott hydra? :P
Nancy said you were the WOAT whatever that means.

I assume it's great.
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Post Post #1649 (isolation #29) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:23 pm

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I'm pretty sure that's it!
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #30) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:12 pm

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Boon there, done that.
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Post Post #1659 (isolation #31) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:54 pm

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Says it can't be given away till the night phase. So assuming 1 from Beau and 1 from Theb.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #32) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:46 am

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In post 1690, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 1635, RCEnigma wrote:Bte is bef? Tell me you're town with a straight face and I'll unvote.
Rce would you make the exact same play as scum two games in a row?
Blatantly yes.
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #33) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:39 am

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In post 1709, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1636, RCEnigma wrote:Also Nancy still taking my initial posts at face value is ehhh. Then putting me in her scum pile and immediately voting bte is double ehhhh.
I wasn’t thrilled with your entrance and you practically having Auro as essentially your spirit animal, seemed kind of over the top. You pretty much sheeped him on BTE without giving an independent read, which I found scummy. I did like you telling Vecna to infect Krazy and sort of null on your Vecna take. After last game where you fooled me, I would think you should expect me to be paranoid of your slot and Krazy was as well or are you conveniently forgetting that? I also wasn’t tr your predecessor, as I’ve already stated.
What if I told you I'm already out of my scumrange?
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #34) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:41 am

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In post 1710, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1639, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1637, Michael Scott wrote:RCEnigma do you know who the heads of Michael Scott are? :P
No lol.
In post 1640, RCEnigma wrote:I've heard the Michael Scott Hydra referenced. Never played with you guys
.
R U serious?

No wait, how could you have sheeped Auro then? He voted BTE under that account. :shifty:
I never said I sheeped auro. MS said a vaguely townie thing. MS was voting BTE in the votecount. Then I did.

In that order even.
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #35) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:42 am

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In post 1718, Krazy Katz wrote:RCE are you already out of your scumrange?
I'm not unfortunately. I'm trying to convince myself to go back from the top and read the game so I can actually get into it but.


I kind don't want to.
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:06 am

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In post 1722, Krazy Katz wrote:dont read whole game

read dave iso and tell me whatchu thunk
I was going to say that his posting since I repped in has been uninspired and I disagree with the alignment tied to role stuff.

But he specifically town-told in his iso.
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Post Post #1728 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:14 am

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In post 1517, davesaz wrote:
In post 1516, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1509, davesaz wrote:Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?
Why would this be relevant?
As I've said (but you may not have read) it seems obvious that the mod chose role and alignment based on the picks.
I was meaning this but I might have read it wrong.
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Post Post #1745 (isolation #38) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:00 am

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You can kill me tomorrow or scum is forced to kill me tonight.

I can't go into more detail than that. I'm already skirting a fine line.
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Post Post #1746 (isolation #39) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:01 am

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Ooooo Nancy is so scum here lol.

I said it was an arbitrary read in the first place. It held no weight. I hadn't even read the game yet. I don't understand how you take any of that seriously much less flip it into a scumread.
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Post Post #1755 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:31 am

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In post 1747, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1746, RCEnigma wrote:Ooooo Nancy is so scum here lol.

I said it was an arbitrary read in the first place. It held no weight. I hadn't even read the game yet. I don't understand how you take any of that seriously much less flip it into a scumread.
That bs OMGUS isn’t helping your case any. I didn’t tr your predecessor and your recent posts don’t sound townie to me. I also don’t believe town!you would call me scum here. My vote is staying.

Give me a townie explanation for both this MS waffling + you’re bizarre scumrange comments and I’ll consider unvoting you. Go.
I definitely would and I am. I called this bullshit "oh I don't know RCE's meta" out in PFUP both days your Hydra was alive.

I don't want you to consider unvoting me because the chronology AND reasoning on my MS was and is very clear. There was none and I said as much in my opening post. Stick to your hollow vote.
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Post Post #1758 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:33 am

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I was going to gut reaction vote chk off this but he's only seen me as scum and his vote did come first.

But I'll note here it was only after xtoxms Hydra and Nancy expressed negative feelings towards my slot.

Not super important now but we'll save it for later.
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Post Post #1759 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:34 am

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In post 1757, Titus wrote:
In post 1754, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1751, Krazy Katz wrote:Thinking out loud, I don't think vecna is groupscum still, but off roleclaim I'd still not commit to him being town. I'd say he's either town or traitor. I mention this because the last symbiote I remember in one of these games was a traitor. The hardclaim does also guarantee he is never targeted by a scum nightkill I think
Do you think I’m jumping the gun on RCE? I don’t understand why he doesn’t view all of his waffling as scummy? Now he’s saying scum may be “forced” to kill him? Wtf?
I don't see why RCE thinks scum would kill him.
You don't have to. Scum doesn't know yet either.
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Post Post #1760 (isolation #43) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:37 am

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VOTE: Nancy

If she's town here then I'm the A50 of this game and that's unfortunate but no other lynch measures up to this one.
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Post Post #1762 (isolation #44) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:37 am

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YOU WERE SCUM IN THAT GAME.
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Post Post #1765 (isolation #45) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:39 am

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You and Skitter both bluffed on not having an idea of what my meta is like to discredit my push on you. It worked for a day but Skitter couldn't pull it back.
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Post Post #1767 (isolation #46) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:41 am

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I've only ever flailed in Fogport and that was as a claimed vig. To my defense I had never been mislynched before that game.
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Post Post #1769 (isolation #47) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:42 am

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In post 1768, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1762, RCEnigma wrote:YOU WERE SCUM IN THAT GAME.
That’s exactly my point. How can you possibly think I’m scum here after that game?
Because you're doing the exact same thing.
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #48) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:43 am

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Well color me pink.
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Post Post #1774 (isolation #49) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:44 am

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In post 1772, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1760, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Nancy

If she's town here then I'm the A50 of this game and that's unfortunate but no other lynch measures up to this one.
How are you “the A50 of this game”? When did I ever vote him in that?
I'm being the aggressor, it's a vague comparison. Not literal.
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Post Post #1775 (isolation #50) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:45 am

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In post 1773, Titus wrote:
In post 1760, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Nancy

If she's town here then I'm the A50 of this game and that's unfortunate but no other lynch measures up to this one.
If you push this, I'll vote you. I'm that confident in Nancy town.
VOTE: Nancy

For the record I think you're town and wrong here.
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #51) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 am

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In post 1777, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1769, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1768, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1762, RCEnigma wrote:YOU WERE SCUM IN THAT GAME.
That’s exactly my point. How can you possibly think I’m scum here after that game?
Because you're doing the exact same thing.
You lying about my play in that game, isn’t exactly convincing me I’m wrong here. Do you want to link my ISO in that game or should I? Krazy was in my hydra and he can confirm, you are our of your goddamned tree if you think my play in THIS game is even in the same ballpark as PFUPS.
How am I lying about your play? Link it I'll wait. Link both isos.
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #52) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:25 am

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In post 1800, Venus and Mars wrote:@RCE, in a world where you’re actually town here, why do you not think it’s even possible I’m town and wrong about your alignment?

The fact that you auto-jumped, Nancy has to be scum, is extremely difficult to believe, especially because of PFUPS.
There's always a possibility. But town you doesn't blatantly ignore my meta or the explanations I gave on my entrance in favor of pushing a weightless read.

There's also no way I believe that my 5 or so posts you found scummy on page, whatever 65 or something. Outweighs every read you've had in the 65 pages prior.

I don't know what any of those reads are, I know vecna claimed a thing, Titus claimed a thing, and Krazy claimed a thing that makes it so I can't really properly sort them. They're in limbo.
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #53) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:26 pm

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In post 1852, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1847, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 1844, Venus and Mars wrote:Have you even read that game, Auro? A50 never pushed me - not in the sense of sr me. He “pushed” me by insinuating I was dumb, insane and he threatened my dead parents, then called my late mom an “asshole”. It was at the very least, extremely insensitive for RCE to have invoked him in that context. I strongly advise you to do an ISO check of exactly what A50 said to me and honestly tell me, I’m over reacting to this.
I have read parts of that. A50 was undoubtedly toxic.
But I can guarantee you that RCE wasn't referring to any of that.
I'm only saying you're over-reacting to what you feel is RCE's implications here, when there are none really. Get what I mean?
Yeah but if he was being sensitive to what happened, he still should have never invoked him but yeah, I obviously don’t think RCE thinks or would ever say those horrible things to anyone, which is why I said, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. Like he could have brought up Billy Pilgrim for example. I was sparring with him for a good part of that game and it wouldn’t have upset me in the slightest.
If I crossed the line I apologize. Chk summed it up though. Nothing malicious meant by it.
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #54) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:57 pm

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It's not and I'll explain why after I get cleaned up and eat and all.
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #55) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:44 pm

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In post 1864, Xtoxm wrote:VOTE: unvote
i dont think rce believes he wins this duel so picking it is maybe towy

rce, is just nancys reaction and doubling down on your entrance that you sr, or is there more to it?
how of of the game have you read so hard?
I've read little to none of the game before my rep in but I've kept up since.

Do you think Nancy is so confused on her scumreads up to page 65 that my rep in is the scummiest take she has in the game?

Additionally Nancy knows that my first posts are never serious posts and there is a switch on period to my game before I even approach solving. It was like that in LNT, it was like that in PFUP, it was like that in OK2(fair I was 3p), it was like that in TBONTB where she thought I was emulating my town game decently.

What I'll concede on the PFUP meta is that my scumread on her slot didn't come from her initially. It was Skitter mostly or whoever was captaining the ship in that Hydra day 1. But the nail in the coffin was Nancy and Skitter both refusing to acknowledge my established meta, how it fit within the co text of the game, and how it influenced my read and the pushback.

Much in the same way that Nancy is refusing to acknowledge my meta in the context of my entrance and using nai statements as scum motivation. Even though they were clarified from the start and reclarified after the fact.

There is another factor that I think would be in poor taste now since it's crossing back into sensitive territory indirectly. Which is unfortunate because it reinforces ideas I have about her scum game in general.

The only concession I would give in terms of Nancy grossly misjudging my meta is that this might(?) Be the first rep in I've had in a game Nancy was in. But I don't think it heavily impacts my overall read.
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #56) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:56 pm

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I just acknowledged it. It also took a fair bit of effort to get to that townread. It didn't solidify until the day you bombed.

I backed vecna up and will continue to do so.
I responded to Krazys questioning on Dave and that's a town slot I feel pretty good about.

So claiming I'm only focuses on you is absolutely false.

A lot of people aren't talking about anything particularly interesting. Sorry boring people, no offense.

If you claimed between pages 75-79 I haven't read it. If you claimed prior to my rep in I also haven't read it.
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Post Post #1959 (isolation #57) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:01 pm

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In post 1954, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1908, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1907, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1906, Venus and Mars wrote:Actually, for those who sent the barbs, can you tell me who you targetted? Because - hard claim - I have a role where I get to reward my tr but I can only do that during the day and the players I selected need to live until at least the following day or my actions would all be for naught.
So, if any of the players I selected were targeted, then I need to pm Boon before day’s end and change those selections.
And don’t ask me to reveal my selections either because I don’t want to put targets on their backs and get them NK’d.
@RCE read this and if you’re still pushing me after this, tell me why I shouldn’t view that as a scumclaim?
Why is that a townclaim if literally nothing has happened yet and there was no reason to out your role? If not to sway the shifting consensus back in your favor?
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #58) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:02 pm

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I do but that you chose grifter as one of your selections fwiw.
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #59) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:02 pm

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Buy*
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Post Post #1962 (isolation #60) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:04 pm

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Oh speaking of. Bef what were your selections that weren't chosen or involved in your role? This may or may not impact my read.
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Post Post #1964 (isolation #61) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:05 pm

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In post 1957, Venus and Mars wrote:My point obviously being, why would town!you bury your head in the sand and ignore all of the evidence pointing to you being dead wrong - including my recent hardclaim. You want to ask Boon if I’m lying here, go tf ahead.
You haven't proved that I'm dead wrong by any metric.
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #62) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:09 pm

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That's fine. Your claim doesn't do it for me because there is nothing stopping you from asking who the Barb recipients are without revealing you can give town super cool stuff and that's why I'm asking.
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Post Post #1969 (isolation #63) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:10 pm

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I'll give minor points since two people had already claimed to receive Barb's and you didn't read them at all. Which town!Nancy would do and I'm not sure if scum!Nancy would or wouldn't miss that information.
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #64) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:11 pm

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In post 1968, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1966, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1964, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1957, Venus and Mars wrote:My point obviously being, why would town!you bury your head in the sand and ignore all of the evidence pointing to you being dead wrong - including my recent hardclaim. You want to ask Boon if I’m lying here, go tf ahead.
You haven't proved that I'm dead wrong by any metric.
Okay fine, I was thinking of changing my vote but you still sr me AFTER my hardclaim isn’t townie, so I guess I won’t move my vote then. Also BTE still null reads you.
If you’re actually town here, ask Boon if I’m lying. If you think I’d make up any of this, you’re either scum or blind.
You can give things to players as either alignment - yours truly, former scum renegade.
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #65) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:19 pm

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In post 1972, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1967, RCEnigma wrote:That's fine. Your claim doesn't do it for me because there is nothing stopping you from asking who the Barb recipients are without revealing you can give town super cool stuff and that's why I'm asking.
If I reveal my selections, I likely put targets on their backs and risk them possibly getting NK’d and I can’t actually give out rewards per say, what I can do, if help put them in a position to win them.
Ok. Revealing you can give gifts or whatever it is, to townreads, doesn't put a target on their back?
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Post Post #1978 (isolation #66) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:20 pm

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In post 1975, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1969, RCEnigma wrote:I'll give minor points since two people had already claimed to receive Barb's and you didn't read them at all. Which town!Nancy would do and I'm not sure if scum!Nancy would or wouldn't miss that information.
That’s pretty much the silliest reason I’ve ever heard for being sr. Derping is always 100% NAI for me and why do you think scum!me wouldn’t know these things? I’m actually starting to wonder if this is some kind of troll.
That wasn't a part of any scumread.
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #67) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:22 pm

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In post 1971, davesaz wrote:
In post 1951, RCEnigma wrote:my first posts are never serious posts and there is a switch on period to my game before I even approach solving
This could be why I have trouble reading you, fwiw.
Fair. I'm terrible with mechanics and such but I like playing the social aspect. So RVs, townreads, etc are more my thing.
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #68) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:22 pm

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In post 1979, jjh927 wrote:Imagine playing mafia today

I woke up, continued playing that new stellaris dlc
and then animal crossing arrived
and now it's bedtime
What a time to be alive.
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #69) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:26 pm

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You didn't need to make any of it public. At all.
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #70) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 1984, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1977, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1972, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1967, RCEnigma wrote:That's fine. Your claim doesn't do it for me because there is nothing stopping you from asking who the Barb recipients are without revealing you can give town super cool stuff and that's why I'm asking.
If I reveal my selections, I likely put targets on their backs and risk them possibly getting NK’d and I can’t actually give out rewards per say, what I can do, if help put them in a position to win them.
Ok. Revealing you can give gifts or whatever it is, to townreads, doesn't put a target on their back?
I’m not revealing my picks and this time I don’t have to, because I, unlike LNT either have to pm Boon or post them in our hydra thread. I don’t need to make my selections public.
What I'm getting at is:

Asking who got Barbs and not outing - scum don't know who they have in their nk pool.

Asking who got barbs and outing your townreads can get a gift/ability/power but if they have a Barb you're changing it - scum nk pool is Nancy trs minus slots with poisonous barb.

Do you see how if you're town it is a bad claim?
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #71) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:32 pm

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In post 1645, GeorgeBailey wrote:I got a present
Was this the poisonous barb?
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Post Post #1994 (isolation #72) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:33 pm

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In post 1991, Venus and Mars wrote:Shiro wanted us to hardclaim right out of the gate, to see who would try to pocket us. I was opposed, because I wanted to see how we were read pre and post claim by various slots.
You yelled at me that your claim was super town and I should be townreading it.
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Post Post #1996 (isolation #73) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:34 pm

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VOTE: George Bailey BTE is also a good vote and I'm aware I'm moving away from bte but they're both scum and it doesn't really matter.
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #74) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:34 pm

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No I'm lying I was voting Nancy.
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #75) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:35 pm

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Err wait let me confirm a timeline thing first.
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Post Post #1999 (isolation #76) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:36 pm

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Disregard, that was all a bunch of bullshit and it lines up with vecna claiming and the daybreak post that I thought was.... A lot farther away. VOTE: Nancy
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Post Post #2000 (isolation #77) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:37 pm

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In post 1995, chkflip wrote:Anybody else want to claim some shit and give scum more info?

:lol:
Don't mind if I do.
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #78) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:49 pm

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In post 2007, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1996, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: George Bailey BTE is also a good vote and I'm aware I'm moving away from bte but they're both scum and it doesn't really matter.
Why is BTE a good vote? And I don’t like your degree of confidence on these reads.
I thought George was softing a barb before any of that information came out. Which would mean the Barb's were an activateable ability making it a pre-planned claim.

I thought vecna claiming the barb and the post from boon came a lot later after George's post than it did so it's still feasible he received it in the same manner Fonz and vecna did.
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #79) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:51 pm

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In post 2010, Venus and Mars wrote:RCE’s vote on our slot is particularly bad, considering he was in LNT and he knows I was town in that and how this mechanic should work. I don’t feel his read on our slot is genuine.
I get how the role works. Outing it served no purpose and is antitown is what I'm saying. You limit the nk pool to people you townread. Then you further limit it to people you townread that don't have a Barb.

Nancy read the words I am saying. Because right now it seems like you are reading every third word.
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Post Post #2013 (isolation #80) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:53 pm

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I also don't buy that hardclaiming was a reaction test if you're actively trying to force one type of result.
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Post Post #2015 (isolation #81) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:53 pm

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They all received them before bte claimed he was the one that sent them. You're missing the point.
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #82) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:04 pm

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In post 2021, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2018, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2013, RCEnigma wrote:I also don't buy that hardclaiming was a reaction test if you're actively trying to force one type of result.
No, it’s just the truth.
What “one type of result”?
By making people townread you for it you nullify that whole bit about wanting to see if people tr you postclaim to get their hands on whatever you send.
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Post Post #2025 (isolation #83) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:05 pm

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In post 2017, chkflip wrote:He's stating the opposite, actually.
Chk gets me.
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Post Post #2026 (isolation #84) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:09 pm

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In post 2019, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2015, RCEnigma wrote:They all received them before bte claimed he was the one that sent them. You're missing the point.
Apparently I am, so please explain it to me like I’m 5.
They all claimed to get the item around the same time then the boon post happened = less likely to be a scum play initiated by bte

As opposed to

George softing preemptively, then vecna and Fonz claim around the boon post = more likely a scum play initiated by bte.
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #85) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:58 pm

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In post 2040, davesaz wrote:I'm not sure why hardclaiming it was necessary. The barb recipients were all identified if you were paying attention.
The concern about claiming endangering your TRs is valid but short-sighted/shallow. I doubt it will have much effect, other than to have painted a target on yourself.

The role by itself doesn't conftown you. There is no reason the role must be restricted to town. I think the role is town more likely than not. It's not inconceivable that someone could doubt.
The endangerment was more so to establish the claim wasn't a pro town move. It also assumes all trs are town so, fair.
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Post Post #2052 (isolation #86) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:19 pm

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I also hardclaim town.
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Post Post #2132 (isolation #87) » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:39 pm

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In post 2055, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2052, RCEnigma wrote:I also hardclaim town.
I didn’t just hardclaim town, I hardclaimed town pr. If you’re town, you wouldn’t be voting me because unlike chk, you know I’m not bsing here and my claim is legit and I don’t believe how anyone who played in LNT could possibly believe orherwise,
How can you call me scum when I hardclaimed town?
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #88) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:06 am

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In post 2152, Vecna wrote:
In post 2099, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 2096, Venus and Mars wrote:Woats is NOT an attack on anyone’s character
I fully understand how you mean it when you use the term, but I don't think people on the receiving end perceive it that way.
Also Michael scot might be one of those people sliding by with only safe statements
I'm glad someone else thought this as well. I can definitely see Auro playing scum mediator. I'll have to go through the iso because I also remember thinking there were townposts intermingled and I might be biased by the Dave push.
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #89) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:17 am

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In post 1236, Chronos wrote:Just read Mechanic's ISO and I'm fine placing a vote there for now while I consolidate my position on Titus / jjh. A lot of their points (Mechanic's) have already been made and it seems like LHF credit reaching at this point - in particular, the Titus post.

VOTE: Mechanic
Saw chronos vote lingering from my predecessor.

Why haven't you made any attempts at consolidating your position on Titus/jjh?

Or interacted with either one?

Asking why anyone is townreading Titus is the closest to sorting one of them but it reads more like shade than actually looking for reasons. It's also hard not to see that statement as cheeky tmi, so that's a possibility.

For someone that would totally railroad that slot, I would expect a vote there at the very least.
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #90) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:19 am

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In post 2160, Michael Scott wrote:And I wouldn't mediate as town?
Name a slot that isn't taking a position that Chk/VM are TvT.
Me.

You might as town but the strategy went over really well for Skitter in TM and that's a fresh wound. Just considering all angles at this point. I'll look into it further when I have the energy.
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Post Post #2164 (isolation #91) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:23 am

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Also I've only seen slots with positive reads on chronos and enough trs on Nancy that I'm going to ask everyone generally, why exactly?

General reasons are fine but directly quotable examples are preferred.

Specifically auro you've said there are plenty of reasons to tr Nancy but haven't given anything specific. So talk to me about that a bit.
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Post Post #2167 (isolation #92) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:48 am

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Coached? That's interesting actually, talk about that.
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #93) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:51 am

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In post 2184, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 1962, RCEnigma wrote:Oh speaking of. Bef what were your selections that weren't chosen or involved in your role? This may or may not impact my read.
The barb picks have nothing to do with my role pm. I received a mid-day PM with the Secret Role Activation.
This wasnt about the Barb's. There was a reason I made this post.
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Post Post #2263 (isolation #94) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:56 am

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In post 2202, Conspire wrote:RCEnigma, do you scumread BooneyToonzExpert solely for sending out the barbs, or do you have other reasons? Why do you think BooneyToonzExpert admits to sending the barbs out in the first place if he's scum?

-Cosmic
There is no bte scumread. I flipped it because it didn't make sense for the angle I came from.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #95) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:06 am

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In post 2269, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2132, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2055, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2052, RCEnigma wrote:I also hardclaim town.
I didn’t just hardclaim town, I hardclaimed town pr. If you’re town, you wouldn’t be voting me because unlike chk, you know I’m not bsing here and my claim is legit and I don’t believe how anyone who played in LNT could possibly believe orherwise,
How can you call me scum when I hardclaimed town?
I was doubting my read until you persisted in in essentially ignoring all of the evidence debunking your read on me and refused to entertain that I might be wrong about you, rather than scum. I also thought your barb theory reminded me a bit of MG but you have also known to be moonlogicky as town as well. Re: fake role pm gate in LNT, so I dunno. What I do know is that town!RC wouldn’t be deathtunelling me here and ignoring all of the vast evidence pointing to me being bleeding obvtown here - especially since you were in LNT and have 0 reason to assume that I’m lying about my role.
I've asked what you have done that is so insanely townie and people just shrugged and went idk, town stuff. That does not cut it for me.
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Post Post #2335 (isolation #96) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 2328, Michael Scott wrote:@Fonzie: She picked literally the same role as in a previous game and got it, and it's also a +town role if she gets her picks right. It's totally plausible she sees this as obvious town.
It being a town role in LNT does NOT make it a town role here.

"How could that ever be a scum role?" Nancy pertinently asks.

Easily, grifter only sends (I presume) 3 slots to a boonus round and can be gated within the realm of:

- must select X number of town per night. So 1 or 2.
- rewards for winning the boonus round could be antitown in nature
- in LNT grifter didn't even have to choose 3 just up to 3 players.
- in LNT it had to be publically activated and seems like that's not the case here so it isn't immediately verifiable in the same way

Then even in the event the role is town. I would argue this isn't really an essential town role. It gives agency to one players reads and the consequence is a potential detriment to town.

Meaning if Nancy is town with bad reads it increases scum chances of A.) Being picked and 2.) Winning additional abilities or modifiers.

Those are bad things. Not good. Bad. Malo. Unfortunate.
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Post Post #2346 (isolation #97) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:34 pm

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In post 2341, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2335, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2328, Michael Scott wrote:@Fonzie: She picked literally the same role as in a previous game and got it, and it's also a +town role if she gets her picks right. It's totally plausible she sees this as obvious town.
It being a town role in LNT does NOT make it a town role here.

"How could that ever be a scum role?" Nancy pertinently asks.

Easily, grifter only sends (I presume) 3 slots to a boonus round and can be gated within the realm of:

- must select X number of town per night. So 1 or 2.
- rewards for winning the boonus round could be antitown in nature
- in LNT grifter didn't even have to choose 3 just up to 3 players.
- in LNT it had to be publically activated and seems like that's not the case here so it isn't immediately verifiable in the same way

Then even in the event the role is town. I would argue this isn't really an essential town role. It gives agency to one players reads and the consequence is a potential detriment to town.

Meaning if Nancy is town with bad reads it increases scum chances of A.) Being picked and 2.) Winning additional abilities or modifiers.

Those are bad things. Not good. Bad. Malo. Unfortunate.
Not trusting I can have decent reads is a horrible reason to mislynch me. You are also conveniently forgetting that there’s a town advantage to not having to make those reads public. For example: I wanted to enter AC in the Boous round in LNT but we didn’t because Krazy told me that they already have a big enough target on them already, so I was not always able to make the selections I wanted because of that. By not outting my selections, I don’t have to think about those things and as such, I would argue that makes my role even townier because of that. Have you seen my role pm? I’m not even sure if I HAVE to submit 3 or up to 3. You acting like you know my role better than me and seeing it as scummy and a negative utility because you’re trying to discredit my ability to make good reads, is concerning.
You're reading the things I'm saying. But you are t reading them and that's unfortunate.
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Post Post #2348 (isolation #98) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:15 pm

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I know.
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Post Post #2362 (isolation #99) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:12 pm

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I'm just disappointed bef didn't pick me to marry :(
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #100) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:44 pm

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In post 2376, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 2374, nomnomnom wrote: I'm not interested in lynching lurker slots on d1
You haven't completely come out of lurker status yourself from where I'm sitting.
Everyone below me in postcount should be on the hotseat. I've been here for 30 pages.
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Post Post #2398 (isolation #101) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:48 pm

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In post 2394, nomnomnom wrote:I think GB's going with the flow of the game and not really having any strong opinion of his own.
His entire townpool has been people who have been talking, and his scumlean pool has been people that scumread him.
Clearly there's something wrong when a player can decisively say a lot of people are town yet doesn't have any true scumread.

I think going for a lurker right now distracts from the interactions that are happening right now and I think it's lowkey anti-town to distract from them for some random lurker lynch.
What's the purpose of voting for a slot that produces nothing on d1 when you have far more controversial slots who need sorting?

pedit:
chkflip's AtE regarding V/M felt fake and it felt like the type of AtE scum comes up with.
It could also be SvS considering I recognize what I did back in Cats with Vorkuta as my scum partner. Fake AtE bullshit at start of day 1 is the easiest way to seem genuine as scums, so maybe that's what it is but it's hard to say considering that I felt nancy's rage really genuine here.
I'm going to assume you don't have an opinion on Chk's case since AtE was the only thing you took away from the conflict with Nancy.
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Post Post #2399 (isolation #102) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:49 pm

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In post 2397, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2391, Michael Scott wrote:{jjh, nomnomnom, Davesaz} seem like a bloc of people conveniently just townreading each other without any solid reasons.
I've given my reasons to townread Dave and I've talked about jjh, so you are wrong.

pedit: George has been far more active and I find their interactions problematic in this game, far more controversial of a slot than people like KA who haven't produced much content imo.
Dunnstral is one of the heads of KA right?
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Post Post #2413 (isolation #103) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:00 pm

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Well. What interactions specifically?
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Post Post #2417 (isolation #104) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:02 pm

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Can we make "it comes back to eat my ass" a quotable?
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Post Post #2418 (isolation #105) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:03 pm

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In post 2416, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2411, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 2406, nomnomnom wrote:I have Mike as scumlean so far.
Ok, and why is that? You've been pretty vague on your scumread on him.

In post 2234, nomnomnom wrote:I think Auro's slot in this gamestate is scummy considering his character and the fact that it's beneficial for scums to let things go when you have someone like Vecna claiming a massive neg utility role
Could you expand on this?
I haven't been vague at all.
The post where I vote Auro was because I saw him trying to initiate a wagon on BTE without rhyme or reason then completely giving it up, which feels really awkward for a townie to do, and there's nothing that struck me as town ever since.
What about chronos who's done pretty much the same thing?
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Post Post #2421 (isolation #106) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:04 pm

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In post 2419, chkflip wrote:You're already misquoting it RCE.
That's my favorite part.
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Post Post #2425 (isolation #107) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:07 pm

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In post 2420, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2415, chkflip wrote:Oh nice speaking of AtE that's cute.

You literally posted in game, more than once, about how few fucks were given with how behind you were getting. And how you read but retained nothing. I see you also magically read like 20 pages in six minutes (spoiler alert: you skipped ahead). None of these things make me think you care about this game whatsoever.

Side note FUCK CANCER, I feel for you, and I'm sorry you're going through that.

But your ISO reads like you didn't care for a while.
I did not skip any page, I just skimmed and noted what jumped on my eyes.
There were a lot of 1v1 pages and those I happily skipped. These only become relevant at the later stages of the game imo.

pedit: feel free lol
ppedit: Chronos has had strong stances and made a few cases which shows there's a solving agenda to him, so I'm inclined to think Chronos is town.
Auro doesn't have the same conviction going on, which I found scummy.
Chronos hasn't attempted to pursue any of his scumreads. I wouldn't really call that conviction.

Like it literally looks like he's waiting for someone else to push one of his scumreads so he can tag on to a wagon.
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Post Post #2430 (isolation #108) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:12 pm

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Ughhhh homework. Lol I'll read through them in the morning if you give me a starting point.
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #109) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:19 pm

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Yeah no I haven't been in school for quite a while lol.
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #110) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:22 am

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In post 2454, chkflip wrote:What's funny is you're still not scum hunting, just insulting me to the point that it's making me uncomfortable as fuck even though I've countlessly asked you to fucking stop insulting me but hey who the fuck am I but some cock goblin who dared to scum read you right? Are you fucking twelve? Do you find entertainment in incessantly treating people like fucking dogshit you found under your boot?

hey jjh what specifically has made you continue to townread nom? Has that changed after their uptick over the past 24 hours?
Continuing to engage this way is going to eat your ass every time.
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Post Post #2643 (isolation #111) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:17 pm

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In post 2636, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2634, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2633, Venus and Mars wrote:Also what takes of mine did you disagree with? Titus? Like Cosmic, I tr her off of meta.
I would also very gratefully request that if anyone is still seriously doubting I’m town here, please link RCE’s case and not the guy who wants to punish me for bombing him in another game. Please and thank you.
It’s not that I agree with what RCE said but at least it doesn’t make me want to scream.
Well you've agreed Ms could be deepwolfing (vecna + my take) and are pursuing chronos now that I've pushed there.

I think you would be more wary if you really thought I had scum potential?
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Post Post #2644 (isolation #112) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:17 pm

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Chronos is a fine wagon though and IDC who's on it.
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Post Post #2646 (isolation #113) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:20 pm

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If that was you in that downtown train thing. If that was Ari then no I don't think so.
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Post Post #2650 (isolation #114) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:23 pm

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Yeah lolllll.

Fwiw you pinged me really early that game. It's milder here. Was there a point you wanted to make?
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Post Post #2651 (isolation #115) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:24 pm

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I did not, I played pso2 for the first time.
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Post Post #2661 (isolation #116) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:33 pm

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In post 2652, Michael Scott wrote:I was curious when you said I could be deepwolfing
Oh, just a thought. Downtown train you were blatant lol.
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Post Post #2662 (isolation #117) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:34 pm

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So I'm possibly going to retract my chronos read cuz chronos is the hero I need and the hero chk deserves.

Flip Nancy!
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Post Post #2665 (isolation #118) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:35 pm

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Awww c'mon.
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #119) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:37 pm

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Also, though I do like chronos following the Titus vote. There is still the possibility Titus is calling the scumteam (mostly or completely) correctly and chronos frustration is coming from that. When they feel the pairing shouldn't be that obvious.

Did not read why Titus had that grouping in the first place and I'm also not sure I've seen Titus doing day 1 associations ever?
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Post Post #2673 (isolation #120) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:40 pm

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Initially thought Dunn would totally strategic lurk as scum. But the wagon didn't Beetlejuice him and that's null enough for me from a meta aspect.

Convince me it's not just a lurker Lynch because they haven't been impactful.
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Post Post #2674 (isolation #121) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:41 pm

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In post 2672, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 2669, RCEnigma wrote:chronos frustration is coming from that
I think "scum caught for the wrong reasons" is a very annoying stance to take. What differentiates that from town being frustrated at bad reasoning?
I think town would have focused more on the personal scumread instead of pushing Titus on the angle that the team was too easy and thus didn't make sense. Not that they weren't scum.
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Post Post #2686 (isolation #122) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:49 pm

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In post 2670, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2643, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2636, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2634, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2633, Venus and Mars wrote:Also what takes of mine did you disagree with? Titus? Like Cosmic, I tr her off of meta.
I would also very gratefully request that if anyone is still seriously doubting I’m town here, please link RCE’s case and not the guy who wants to punish me for bombing him in another game. Please and thank you.
It’s not that I agree with what RCE said but at least it doesn’t make me want to scream.
Well you've agreed Ms could be deepwolfing (vecna + my take) and are pursuing chronos now that I've pushed there.

I think you would be more wary if you really thought I had scum potential?
I am null reading you because you fooled me last game. I don’t understand why you would think I would have any confidence in reading you after that. If you were recently completely fooled by scum!me in a game, are you seriously telling me that you would be confident you could parse me correctly?

I still lean town on MS but true, my confidence on that is less than it was initially. Re: Chronus, I am not sheeping you. Afaik, your vote is still on me, yes? So how is that in your mind a “sheep”?

Ironically for similar reasons that chk gave for GB, I don’t think the KA wagon really gives us much info and I think their chances of being a possible mislynch are imo greater than their chances of flipping scum, so I don’t think it’s the best wagon. From my experience playing with both of them - especially Maria, they tend to be a lot more active as scum. I know most of the playerlist hard tr Chronus but I haven’t been able to share that conviction.
I'd take the approach of letting others sort you. So for example here you have 2 players that caught me as scum when you didn't (chk and Krazy) but you aren't really valuing their opinion.

Not because you think they are scum and could be spewing false reads, afaik you townread both. But because you aren't actively gauging my alignment outside of interactions with you.

Regarding chronos, no I don't have a vote there but I was
A.) Engaging with them directly.
B.) Engaging with other slots about their read on chronos and what got them there
And C.) Expressed my issues with the slot .

It wasn't until that bit of pressure that chronos was even being brought up and now it's your wagon of choice. Which is questionable to me because of your stance towards my slot.
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #123) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:49 pm

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In post 2678, Titus wrote:
In post 2669, RCEnigma wrote:Also, though I do like chronos following the Titus vote. There is still the possibility Titus is calling the scumteam (mostly or completely) correctly and chronos frustration is coming from that. When they feel the pairing shouldn't be that obvious.

Did not read why Titus had that grouping in the first place and I'm also not sure I've seen Titus doing day 1 associations ever?
I actually did Day 1 associations with you and BEF in the last BooneyTunes game. I said that interaction never felt right. I kept getting brushed off there too.
Oh that was because of the flavor and an assumed traitor crumb.
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Post Post #2693 (isolation #124) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:51 pm

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In post 2677, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 2674, RCEnigma wrote:I think town would have focused more on the personal scumread instead of pushing Titus on the angle that the team was too easy and thus didn't make sense. Not that they weren't scum.
But it is true, no? It's stretched to guess an entire scumteam off a few interactions (some of which were misrepped even)
Pointing that out seems reasonable.
Sure, that's not what I have issue with. The assumed town reaction is that they can't be scum with those players because they themselves are not scum.

That's not the line chronos took.

Is that reasonable?
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Post Post #2695 (isolation #125) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:52 pm

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In post 2684, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2662, RCEnigma wrote:So I'm possibly going to retract my chronos read cuz chronos is the hero I need and the hero chk deserves.

Flip Nancy!

VOTE: RCE

No, I’m not tr you for this. This is scummy.
Let's tango.
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Post Post #2699 (isolation #126) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:54 pm

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In post 2698, Michael Scott wrote:I mean, that is sort of implied anyway, right? Like I see what you're saying but I wouldn't point it out myself first because it's a bit redundant.
I would. I'm town dammit.
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Post Post #2700 (isolation #127) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:54 pm

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And don't you forget it.
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Post Post #2712 (isolation #128) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:15 pm

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In post 2708, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2670, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2643, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2636, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2634, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 2633, Venus and Mars wrote:Also what takes of mine did you disagree with? Titus? Like Cosmic, I tr her off of meta.
I would also very gratefully request that if anyone is still seriously doubting I’m town here, please link RCE’s case and not the guy who wants to punish me for bombing him in another game. Please and thank you.
It’s not that I agree with what RCE said but at least it doesn’t make me want to scream.
Well you've agreed Ms could be deepwolfing (vecna + my take) and are pursuing chronos now that I've pushed there.

I think you would be more wary if you really thought I had scum potential?
I am null reading you because you fooled me last game. I don’t understand why you would think I would have any confidence in reading you after that. If you were recently completely fooled by scum!me in a game, are you seriously telling me that you would be confident you could parse me correctly?

I still lean town on MS but true, my confidence on that is less than it was initially. Re: Chronus, I am not sheeping you. Afaik, your vote is still on me, yes? So how is that in your mind a “sheep”?

Ironically for similar reasons that chk gave for GB, I don’t think the KA wagon really gives us much info and I think their chances of being a possible mislynch are imo greater than their chances of flipping scum, so I don’t think it’s the best wagon. From my experience playing with both of them - especially Maria, they tend to be a lot more active as scum. I know most of the playerlist hard tr Chronus but I haven’t been able to share that conviction.
I think it’s incredibly scummy for you to call for my mislynch right after this post.
I think it's incredibly scummy you think it's scummy.
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Post Post #2714 (isolation #129) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:16 pm

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Figuring out where I stand on slots is antitown I agree.
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Post Post #2739 (isolation #130) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:44 pm

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In post 2733, chkflip wrote:My expressed opinion on nomnomnom is that their pushes are weak. Easy. Latching onto George, for example, and the interactions there are scummy. The wagon reaction is meh at best. There's no conviction or town-motivation there for me. The player isn't new so I can't associate it away like I can with George. You lot are saying it's town-indicatice and I just can't agree with that mentality.
Chk is the mandalorian and I am his baby Yoda just nodding along.
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Post Post #2849 (isolation #131) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:42 am

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In post 2808, sore feet wrote:kept quiet for the rxn test, but im happy with this lynch

plan for tonight:
vecna to virus chkflip and krazy
vecna to symbiote outside chkflip/krazy at psuedo-random
fonz passes barb to titus
vecna passes barb to ??
GB passes barb to ??

my feeling is that a 2nd barb should also be going to titus so we can get both a loyal and disloyal modded item flowing through the game ASAP.
this relies on assumptions, but i think they're fair assumptions and its the best we got atm.
if barb holders have reason to believe another course of action is productive, by all means do so.
Two barbs only go to Titus if she can modify both in the same night. If not there's a risk that she can only modify/send 1 a night and the remaining Barb has negative impact or just causes death.
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Post Post #3067 (isolation #132) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:12 pm

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In post 2917, nomnomnom wrote:Nice try.
I have a secret suicidal one cop shot. Night 1 I am forced to investigate someone.
But I couldn't bring that I had a cop shot before night 1 otherwise I would have been executed. That's why I was scared of getting lynched yesterday, moreso than usual.
There's no reason for me to fake a guilty and you know this Titus, game over :]
And the good part is that I can't even get night killed next night. Life is great.
Are you a basic boon?
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Post Post #3068 (isolation #133) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:13 pm

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Oh. Yeah with some of the info that has emerged I figured my role is bastard. I suspected it day 1 as well.
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Post Post #3069 (isolation #134) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:17 pm

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In post 3039, nomnomnom wrote:We might have to wait for RCE to know if he received any item, perhaps it's related to this
In any case this turn of events makes me glad I did not out all my items :)
Got a sticky fruit. Also have a suicidal secret n1 cop shot. Targeted nom with no result. I don't think any of this is relevant but it makes my possible post restriction make sense. Well one of them anyway.
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Post Post #3070 (isolation #135) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:17 pm

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But besides that I assumed I was VT and the secret cop shot was just a ruse.
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Post Post #3071 (isolation #136) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:18 pm

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Chk I didn't forget about you. I'm gonna get to some dnd.
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Post Post #3084 (isolation #137) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:50 pm

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I'm assuming just from the volume of SF claims everyone received one? Or is it literally just the suicidal cops?
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Post Post #3086 (isolation #138) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:21 pm

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In post 3080, davesaz wrote:Depending on how many stickies there are, we might be stuck with them.
If the answer to my question is yes, sticky fruit holders are immune to being given an item.
Oh God that's an action resolution nightmare. Maybe it does resolve to mountainous. :(

chkflip, I join these games because I hate vanilla/mountainous with a passion. Afraid isn't exactly right, just don't like.
As long as at least 1 person is not holding a sticky fruit then we can force the nk each night. Or it results in a soft guilty.
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Post Post #3087 (isolation #139) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:22 pm

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Oh we also need an investigative with more than 1 shot.
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Post Post #3094 (isolation #140) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:27 pm

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In post 3089, sore feet wrote:
In post 3086, RCEnigma wrote:As long as at least 1 person is not holding a sticky fruit then we can force the nk each night. Or it results in a soft guilty.
how?
May not work because I'm bad at mechanics but let's get at least all the sticky claims first.
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Post Post #3182 (isolation #141) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:35 am

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In post 3102, The Fonz wrote:I'm a Basic Boon btw. That's the modifier I was talking about D1. I didn't expand further because I didn't want to open the 'talking about my role' can of worms given the suicidal cop thing.
This is what I was townbinning Dave for day 1. I figured this would be a town specific thing.
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Post Post #3193 (isolation #142) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:44 am

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Who was infected? If 1 of the infected is not today's lynch then you're just cross infecting.
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Post Post #3268 (isolation #143) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 3262, Conspire wrote:I don’t think massclaim is a good idea. Also I’m for voting Titus since I don’t see why we shouldn’t trust our only result for the night.

I’ll wait for a VC though

~Esper
Don't like this. BTE compulsive sticky fruiting everyone night 1 means the result on Titus is unlikely. If someone has an idea how nom got said result or was directly involved in making that happen for sure needs to bring that info forward.
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Post Post #3474 (isolation #144) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:40 pm

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I don't remember anything mechanics wise from yesterday.

I got a stuffed elephant, dunno what it does or if I can send it to someone else.
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Post Post #3481 (isolation #145) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:55 pm

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I had a reason to treat chronos as strong town but I don't remember what. Might be vote related.
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Post Post #3497 (isolation #146) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:39 am

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In post 3482, jjh927 wrote:What do you think of GeorgeBailey
No strong opinion. Wouldn't fight off a GB Lynch.

Chronos/Nancy/chk/prob jjh/bte all town

Sore feet is in a weird dead zone where nothing they've said is ai to me either way.

MS I still suspect and Krazy is claimed miller but still a suspicious slot that has to be dealt with at some point. Probably not today.

Everyone else I'm indifferent to.
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Post Post #3499 (isolation #147) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:42 am

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Oh Dave fringe town as well. Day 1 he dropped the basic boon info that has no real scum motivation unless he suspects complex investigatives.

But that's a stretch and a weird Gambit for the kind of player Dave is (to do as scum). So likely just town.
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Post Post #3880 (isolation #148) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:33 pm

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I'm here, dunno what day it is. If I'm up to be lynched, fair. Jjh voting me to start the day after the Titus lynch was townie. I assume it was based on me questioning nom's guilty and the conflicting results around it. But I don't remember who it was that conflicted with nom's result.

That's where I would be looking. But I also don't know what's going on.

Chk if you're still clashing with Nancy, she is likely town from the way Titus handled her day 1. Doubt Titus fake pockets Nancy during the pressure there as partners. Trying to talk Nancy down is more of a scum play around town!Nancy since she's such a loud voice regardless and agreeing with her indirectly or directly gets townpoints with her.

Greater probability that scum were using Nancy as a shield.
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Post Post #3881 (isolation #149) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:34 pm

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In post 3878, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 3877, The Fonz wrote:
In post 3870, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
In post 3724, sore feet wrote:
In post 3682, BooneyToonzExpert wrote:
JJH927
Conspire
davesaz
The Fonz
RCEnigma
sore feet


Is the pool of lynches today based on the D1 and D2 wagons. RCE is in this list but JJ, dave or fonzie should be considered before voting RCE.

VOTE: JJH927

I have spoken.
this list of names appears to be exactly the alive players who weren't on the titus wagon
am i right that this is what you've taken, or is there more depth to your thinking?
if yes, do you really believe in that?
This is people not on the Titus, also are included those not on Titus
or
KA wagons.
This is lazy AF given Titus had a guilty on her so "Off the wagon" basically translates to "Not online when she really started flailing."
What would you do if Titus was your partner and you were online after the guilty?
Hammer.
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Post Post #3882 (isolation #150) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:39 pm

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In post 3691, Conspire wrote:Aren't cops a town only role? And I think it's townie because if you were fakeclaiming, it's not likely you'd fakeclaim a double imo

~Esper
This is after a vote on me (dunno where they initially voted but it's in the VC) on another claimed n1 secret suicide cop. So calling bs.

There were like 4 claimed. Or 5 maybe.
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Post Post #3896 (isolation #151) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:17 am

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She was bullshitting and I called her on it but yeah, that's what I was getting at with the Nancy read.
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Post Post #3898 (isolation #152) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:30 pm

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Well what's the difference between those off both wagons and slots on one off the other.
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Post Post #3907 (isolation #153) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:53 pm

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VOTE: Michael Scott
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Post Post #4051 (isolation #154) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:19 pm

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In post 4025, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 4007, GeorgeBailey wrote:
In post 3849, Michael Scott wrote:What's your read of him?
Scumlean, his past posts with Titus didn't really age well. The resistance against his wagon is also kind of clear. So that could be the scum team right now.
Titus, RCE and who else?
Probably bte.
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Post Post #4052 (isolation #155) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:21 pm

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In post 4045, jjh927 wrote:How does Titus flipping scum make someone think you're town?
In post 4048, jjh927 wrote:Because you don't flip all of your reads when one read turns out to be wrong
Titus interactions with Nancy.

Titus interactions with chronos.

The angle chronos pushed against Titus with.

The same way you are using Titus interaction with me to form a read on me, correct or incorrect.
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Post Post #4058 (isolation #156) » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:12 pm

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Lmao. I needed that.
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Post Post #4120 (isolation #157) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:58 am

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In post 4067, The Fonz wrote:JJH feels like the classic "Is trying to figure stuff out, makes a few mistakes in the process that people jump on" kind of wagon.
Agree with this. If I'm flipped today my dying wish is jjh doesn't take the fall for just being wrong.
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Post Post #4121 (isolation #158) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:02 am

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In post 4066, Michael Scott wrote:@Fonz: Exactly what I'm saying - arguing with Nancy is just easy busywork.

@Chkflip: You already have The Fonz as a townread, no? Who else do you think is strongly town?
Don't you think "wtf is Michael Scott doing" applies to RCE as well?
I'm just busy with other things. Full disclosure I didn't intend to stay in this game either but I can at least post every so often and avoid FL the PL wait for replacements that are hard enough to come by right now. So I don't mind being the lynch.

That being said I do think the wagon on me has scum.
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Post Post #4122 (isolation #159) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:03 am

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In post 4072, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3660, Boonskiies wrote:
The Sorcerer’s ABoontice!
Vote Count 3.02

Image


GeorgeBailey [3]:
Jjh927, Chronos, davesaz
Chronos [2]:
Michael Scott, Chkflip
Jjh927 [1]:
GeorgeBailey
RCEnigma [1]:
Conspire
sore feet [1]:
The Fonz

Not Voting [5]:
Venus and Mars, sore feet, RCEnigma, Krazy Katz, BooneyToonzExpert,


With
13
alive, it takes
7
to execute.

Day 3
ends in (expired on 2020-04-09 21:00:00) on
April 9th
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Mod Notes:
Don’t be outta pocket.
Wow, I really thought we had more time. :/
I thought I had more votes. So maybe my last post is bullshit.
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Post Post #4124 (isolation #160) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:12 am

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Which I still want to hop into at a later time.

I'd murder any of MS, conspire, George, Krazy in any order. If that doesn't fix it, it's Dave... It's always Dave.
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Post Post #4249 (isolation #161) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:57 pm

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I don't know if I can send anything. I was just told I received an elephant. No more no less.
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Post Post #4250 (isolation #162) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:57 pm

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I also hardclaim town again in case you guys missed that earlier.
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Post Post #4251 (isolation #163) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:00 pm

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In post 4246, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 4245, chkflip wrote::lol: all good.

I guess we're going jjh? I'm the last to allow a "sElF-rEsOlViNg" slot to live but are we sure about that?
I do have a bit of doubt. The post RCE made about not lynching jjh for being wrong. Scum!eth0s made a very similar post in Penguin wrt to a townie who was sr him.
I've never been compared to ethos in any other way but k.

Idk why the way he plays scum would have any bearing on how I play scum or in this case town.
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Post Post #4252 (isolation #164) » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:07 pm

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In post 4193, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1143, Titus wrote:
In post 1130, Krazy Katz wrote:you didn't misrep chkflip titus he scummy

he scummy scummy scummy

I don'tknow if he flip scum but he is scummy

he's like way more political this game

now that coudl be because he got NANCYDDDDDDD

but hes deffos more political and that means it is wise to be wary

u feel me girrlllllll??>???

-K
I feel you definitely. But that doesn't leave drunk or sober me with a confident lynch choice. My gut says Auro isn't town but no one will tell me why he is. Chronos is an ass.

But then there's the wagon dispersal and threats which suggest one of the wagons is on scum.

So I'm just ahhhhh
In post 1580, Titus wrote:
In post 1498, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1483, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1479, RCEnigma wrote:Howdy partners. I've arbitrarily decide Michael Scott is town VOTE: BTE
I think he is too, what does that have to do with BTE?
That's where MS is voting and I trust him undoubtedly.
I still have never gotten an answer as to why MS is so trusted.
In post 1492, Titus wrote:Ok yeah Vecna's scum. I didn't read that fight in detail but accusing Nancy of lying and saying I should know better is enough for a scumread combined with his role.

I also don't trust the infect back comment. Infect back only works if we never lynch the slots he targets but he refuses to townread Nancy and Auro (I think this is what Vecna meant by pops hydra) who I feel are the most likely obvtown slots.
Lolol, Titus must have forgotten she was pushing Auro and tmi towned him.
Interesting actually. Maybe I'm wrong on auro.
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Post Post #4294 (isolation #165) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 4268, Venus and Mars wrote:And KK because I think if either were scum here, Nom probably wouldn’t have been last night’s NK, due to being rendered voteless today from the Boonus round.
I'm less interested in this. Nom was pretty much confirmed after guiltying Titus. The boonus room and who won doesn't matter in the context of nom being the night kill.
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Post Post #4295 (isolation #166) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:26 am

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In post 4280, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 4265, Conspire wrote:I could join
The Fonz
on
Sore Feet
actually. After ISOing, I see a lot of commenting on things for the sake of commenting on things rather than genuine solving. My other head currently has a better grip on this game though, so gonna discuss with her before changing vote.

I don't agree with the logic that Dave being the second N1 suicidal cop claim makes him town. With 9 of those in the game, scum are definitely going to have at least 1, and there's no harm in claiming it after someone else does I don't think.


P.S: I have no grasp on the mechanical side of things. How concerned should I be about potential rogue elephants?
In post 2644, RCEnigma wrote:Chronos is a fine wagon though and IDC who's on it.
In post 3497, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 3482, jjh927 wrote:What do you think of GeorgeBailey
No strong opinion. Wouldn't fight off a GB Lynch.

Chronos/Nancy/chk/prob jjh/bte all town

Sore feet is in a weird dead zone where nothing they've said is ai to me either way.

MS I still suspect and Krazy is claimed miller but still a suspicious slot that has to be dealt with at some point. Probably not today.

Everyone else I'm indifferent to.
What changed your mind on
Chronos
?

-Cosmic
Interesting. @Conspire, which head made this post?

I tend to agree, no one’s sc claim is town indicative because Nom claimed it first.
Again I don't care about the order of claims. Nom had the only result. Everyone else got wrecked by sticky fruit therefore no result, no info, no reason to out. Plus I don't doubt all the suicidal cops legit have that role. But basing alignment on who checked the thread first is whack.
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Post Post #4296 (isolation #167) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:27 am

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In post 4286, Conspire wrote:The Cosmic head, Mars. I didn't realise Esper was of the reverse opinion. Will discuss with her later.

-Cosmic
Press x to doubt.
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Post Post #4312 (isolation #168) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:04 pm

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In post 4300, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 4294, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4268, Venus and Mars wrote:And KK because I think if either were scum here, Nom probably wouldn’t have been last night’s NK, due to being rendered voteless today from the Boonus round.
I'm less interested in this. Nom was pretty much confirmed after guiltying Titus. The boonus room and who won doesn't matter in the context of nom being the night kill.
You’re missing my point, she was voteless. I would think that would be significant enough for scum to possibly rethink having Nom as last night’s NK
I would think not. I literally would not care.
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Post Post #4317 (isolation #169) » Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:07 pm

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In post 4301, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 4295, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4280, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 4265, Conspire wrote:I could join
The Fonz
on
Sore Feet
actually. After ISOing, I see a lot of commenting on things for the sake of commenting on things rather than genuine solving. My other head currently has a better grip on this game though, so gonna discuss with her before changing vote.

I don't agree with the logic that Dave being the second N1 suicidal cop claim makes him town. With 9 of those in the game, scum are definitely going to have at least 1, and there's no harm in claiming it after someone else does I don't think.


P.S: I have no grasp on the mechanical side of things. How concerned should I be about potential rogue elephants?
In post 2644, RCEnigma wrote:Chronos is a fine wagon though and IDC who's on it.
In post 3497, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 3482, jjh927 wrote:What do you think of GeorgeBailey
No strong opinion. Wouldn't fight off a GB Lynch.

Chronos/Nancy/chk/prob jjh/bte all town

Sore feet is in a weird dead zone where nothing they've said is ai to me either way.

MS I still suspect and Krazy is claimed miller but still a suspicious slot that has to be dealt with at some point. Probably not today.

Everyone else I'm indifferent to.
What changed your mind on
Chronos
?

-Cosmic
Interesting. @Conspire, which head made this post?

I tend to agree, no one’s sc claim is town indicative because Nom claimed it first.
Again I don't care about the order of claims. Nom had the only result. Everyone else got wrecked by sticky fruit therefore no result, no info, no reason to out. Plus I don't doubt all the suicidal cops legit have that role. But basing alignment on who checked the thread first is whack.
I agreee, I think who crumbed D1 is more telling: you, me. I’m assuming that was your reasoning behind you thinking scum would kill you, right? For me, it was why I totally expected to be confitown on D2, once I claimed my result.
Yeah, couldn't mention it but at the time I thought it was a strong enough 1 shot.

So A.) I needed to know what vecna was doing in regards to millerizing. And
2.) If being a basic boon meant my role was simple. I nearly made Dave my check but felt that would be a wasted shot.
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Post Post #4904 (isolation #170) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:16 pm

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Jjh I sent you a thing. I could have sent one n2 but didn't know it counted as an item, which is dumb on my part.
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Post Post #4906 (isolation #171) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:18 pm

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In post 4890, chkflip wrote:Oh okay cool. Because I lied.

Conspire is conf-town, that's nice.

VOTE: RCEnigma

No reason not to believe dave didn't target someone he was scum reading at the end of yesterday.
I acknowledge this. Don't have the energy to argue the fact he targeted someone else so I think I'll just ignore it till it goes away.
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Post Post #4911 (isolation #172) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:21 pm

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I was sad about rolling scum all the time.

It's a flavor thing for another game.
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Post Post #4916 (isolation #173) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:24 pm

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Full disclosure MS. I 100% intended on faking a guilty on you in some capacity. But there isn't really a reason to argue SF was possibly targeted over me unless sf is town as well so may be for the best that Dave threw a wrench in that plan.
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Post Post #4917 (isolation #174) » Sat Apr 11, 2020 10:26 pm

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In post 4916, RCEnigma wrote:Full disclosure MS. I 100% intended on faking a guilty on you in some capacity. But there isn't really a reason to argue SF was possibly targeted over me unless sf is town as well so may be for the best that Dave threw a wrench in that plan.
That's worded weird. You're probably town here so RCE plan bad.
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Post Post #5018 (isolation #175) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:14 am

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In post 5016, Conspire wrote:We could quickhammer here if
someone
decided to come online.

P.S: Krazy, why do you wanna lynch Sore Feet before RCEnigma has a chance to respond to the Elsa Jay thing?

-Cosmic
I don't have anything to respond to. Idk what partners in another game or whatever means. I've never played with GB. Also have questions like when was this message received?
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Post Post #5019 (isolation #176) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:17 am

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In post 4939, jjh927 wrote:Okay so

N2
I got a message supposedly from Elsa Jay
that Nom, RCE, and GeorgeBailey contained scum because they were partners in some private alternate game
and I was told not to say anything about it because it would compromise "us", which tbh could be referring to like, anyone
N2 gotchya. Idk, that's the night I got the stuffed elephant, maybe it's related, maybe it's not.

Haven't been involved in any alternate rounds, Nancy can confirm I haven't been picked.
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Post Post #5025 (isolation #177) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:37 am

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In post 5021, jjh927 wrote:You haven't denied the allogations and instead denied speculation about them
What can I say? Nah man Elsa's a liar I'm totally not scum.

GB could have cleared this up yesterday if he'd been asked about it. But I'm the only person left from that list and I don't know anything about it so.
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Post Post #5028 (isolation #178) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:40 am

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In post 5020, jjh927 wrote:What about alternate GAMES related to this game though
I was in most of the boon games but afaik this is the first one either nom or GB have been in. Also I repped into TSE's slot here and idk what games he's played.
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Post Post #5030 (isolation #179) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:41 am

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In post 5026, Krazy Katz wrote:It's okay, we'll activate our tag team power to strongman kill him tonight jjh

Just make sure you submit up down up up down down left right left right B A to Boon and we'll go full Turbo
<-- LOOK at my face you monster q.q
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Post Post #5032 (isolation #180) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:43 am

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In post 5029, jjh927 wrote:
In post 5025, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 5021, jjh927 wrote:You haven't denied the allogations and instead denied speculation about them
What can I say? Nah man Elsa's a liar I'm totally not scum.

GB could have cleared this up yesterday if he'd been asked about it. But I'm the only person left from that list and I don't know anything about it so.
Interesting that you say Elsa is a liar, and not
A. Me
Or B. Someone pretending to be Elsa

I want to hear explicit denial
I think you're town. I think you played D3 with whatever message you got in mind.

It sounds super bastard and that fits so yeah, Elsa's the liar here. Could possibly be a scum ability but honestly don't know.

I'm not scum but meh.
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Post Post #5033 (isolation #181) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 5031, jjh927 wrote:And I'm suspicious you can't explicitly confirm or deny that
Well, what about when I explicitly denied it?
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Post Post #5034 (isolation #182) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:45 am

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You tell me the exact words you want typed out dude I don't read minds.
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Post Post #5042 (isolation #183) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:09 am

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In post 5037, Krazy Katz wrote:although the way this game has gone, participants could just be post restricted from talking about it

I wonder if we're allowed to ask if people have any remaining post restrictions

RCE if you might have another post restriction, blink twice! don't let boon hold you hostage mang
I have two post restrictions but the conditions haven't been met.
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Post Post #5044 (isolation #184) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:10 am

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I was in a private game with Elsa Jay, nomnomnom, and George Bailey.
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Post Post #5045 (isolation #185) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:11 am

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In post 5044, RCEnigma wrote:I was in a private game with Elsa Jay, nomnomnom, and George Bailey.
I did not have private game relations with those people.
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Post Post #5047 (isolation #186) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:13 am

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In post 5038, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 5037, Krazy Katz wrote:might have another post restriction
it's only "might" so this can't be breaking a PR to not talk about it, righhhht?

lol this game :P
Only thing I couldn't talk about is the cop shot.
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Post Post #5050 (isolation #187) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 5046, Krazy Katz wrote:what

why would you not have private relations with those people?

are you trying to smacktalk the hunkiness of george?

for shame, RCE, for shame
Never said I didn't want to.

Should have took my shot. Sorry George.
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Post Post #5131 (isolation #188) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:54 pm

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In post 5092, Xtoxm wrote:Claiming scum is within my townrange, so use with caution.
Half of me doesn't want to vote because this is a good post lol

VOTE: Sore feet
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Post Post #5134 (isolation #189) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:59 pm

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Nancy. You ok?
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Post Post #5136 (isolation #190) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:45 pm

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He's claiming scum. What are you making a fuss about?
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Post Post #5142 (isolation #191) » Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:26 pm

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In post 5138, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 5136, RCEnigma wrote:He's claiming scum. What are you making a fuss about?
Maybe I’m pissed that I’ve been pocketed by two scum and I especially feel stupid for tr that blatantly manipulative AtE.
As an emotion driven player you're able to be manipulated. Scum just got around to it first this game, it happens.
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Post Post #5232 (isolation #192) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:52 am

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Dinkleburg....
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Post Post #5233 (isolation #193) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:52 am

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In post 5231, Krazy Katz wrote:Conspire don't answer the following question please

@rce are you in a hood with conspire?
Nope.
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Post Post #5234 (isolation #194) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:58 am

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I am the Jersey Devil.

- if anyone in the thread say "[redacted statement]" I will be unable to post in game aside from voting. I may meme in any neighborhoods I'm in.

-I can also send an item that I forgot why I wasn't sending until I reread my role. But it's a feather of the devil. If anyone denies it's existence or calls it out as not real then they will receive a feather from the last player to get one and will be unable to post, aside from voting.

I have yet to send a feather.
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Post Post #5238 (isolation #195) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:06 am

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That's a lot of work, I have to cross reference PM's now zzz.

Jersey devil was from the BT cryptid game. Day 4 flavor.
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Post Post #5240 (isolation #196) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:10 am

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Night 1 cop result: no result, sticky fruit received
Night 2: stuffed elephant received
Night 3: stuffed elephant sent to jjh
Night 4: none
Day 4: received fruit

Idk if day 4 was just a mod style thing or if it matters resolution wise.

TSE's picks were:
-“probably help washing down the tide pods”
-“Why FF?” Boon edit Yeah, NEVER SURRENDER, has this been answered?
-Jersey Devil
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Post Post #5241 (isolation #197) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:13 am

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In post 5239, Krazy Katz wrote:I mean it's a lot of work for you now vs. a pain in the butt for me going through your iso later :P

Also just for good measure, @RCE are you in a hood with me?

Can you reveal your second post restriction? You said you had more than one
I was wrong, I figured it was negative utility and not worth using when I read it initially, forgot about the feather thing and got it in my head it was a separate post restriction for me.

I'm not in a good with you no.
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Post Post #5243 (isolation #198) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:23 am

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In post 5242, Krazy Katz wrote:
In post 5044, RCEnigma wrote:I was in a private game with Elsa Jay, nomnomnom, and George Bailey.
Is this still true?

Were you in a private game with Elsa Jay, nomnomnom, and George Bailey?
It wasn't true when I wrote it. Jjh thought I was post restricted from mentioning another game or something.
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Post Post #5244 (isolation #199) » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:24 am

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That makes it sound like it's true now but wasn't then lol. No I wasn't in a private game at any point.
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