BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[Titus]

Hey, I'm claiming post one since my role can be negative utility. I'm a handsy renegade. I can assign modifiers to items, not people. I request to keep the modifiers hidden at this time because that would help scum.

[Titus]

Conspire is so cute and adorable. I want to say Malakittens.

VOTE: Auro

Can I adopt a cute cat into my pocket? This is how conspiracies work right?

[Titus]

Mala is still playing? I thought she retired.

Well yeah she has but the kittens are too cute in this game not to think of her...between Conspire and Krazy Katz.

[Titus]

Not feeling well. Will try to post substantively tmo.

[Titus]

Not feeling well. Will try to post substantively tmo.

Get well soon, Titus!

Thanks. Just really need to get better by my birthday.

[Titus]

everyone is Multitasking.

clutch edit

so this is multiball?

-K

Isnt multitasking simply that people can submit multiple actions per night?

It is.

[Titus]

I’m not responding to pressure, I just pointed out a mindset leak. Not agreeing with the reasons two people have for scum reading each other and concluding they’re both town for it is quite the TMI.

You’re deflecting. Me accusing you for TMI doesn’t revoke the fact you slipped up just because you had a vote on me.

I like this as town.

[Titus]

hmmm im actually only now noticing that post voted krazy and not nomnom

wtf brain

Vecna probably town but fluish mind having trouble following him.

[Titus]

@JJH odds of everyone posting on page5 being town?

Actually pretty reasonable

I'm town
You're town
Auro is looking nice and towny
Chronos could go either way considering this is a regular reaction that people have when they play with me for the first time
And then Nom posted after you said it, and Nom is town too even if they are wrong

Not sure on Auro. Can you explain that?

[Titus]

Oh we're being serious? Aight my bad.

UNVOTE: Kakeguri Addicts
VOTE: Titus

Titus is scum.

Is this the reason you started posting more today rather than tommorow, Titus? Also, I wish you a speedy recovery.

-Cosmic

I forgot the word by in my post. Also, I'm not 100% standing behind what I post so some could rightfully quibble with substantive.

[Titus]

Conspire, you think JJH has too many townreads? I find it more likely he's being pocketed but I am a little suspect too though. Can you explain why scum over naive?

[Titus]

Conspire, you think JJH has too many townreads? I find it more likely he's being pocketed but I am a little suspect too though. Can you explain why scum over naive?

I don't know regarding scum or naive; hopefully his response will be of help.

Why do you get the impression he's being pocketed? I haven't seen evidence of that.

-Cosmic

I'm used to scum fighting calling people town but shading everyone unless they want to pocket people and need to get in a town block fast.

[Titus]

Little hint: Cops, youre pretty much completely useless this game, so just chill and dont feel pressured to carry the weight of the world.

None of that atlas shit

would whatever you are also affect modifiers like loyal/disloyal/weak?

It might, but thats seperate from the town negative utility stuff

Huh? I am confused. I am the item renegade. If I get an item I can add that stuff.

[Titus]

loosely paraphrased, I target 2 people and they will appear scum alligned for most intents and purposes

Then.....those people will have to target two new people to give the same treatment.

I spread viruses, and the people that get infected will have to spread it further.

Im guessing the easy way around this is to just announce who ill target, and those people will be leashed to target eachother after that

Why not just refuse to target?

[Titus]

mandatory

Is this why you doubt the Miller claim? Are you a Miller too?

What would you submit to get that?

[Titus]

bit of a silly question, truely, titus

Maybe but I like to find protein loopholes. Plus my common sense might be off

[Titus]

permanently, and they have to spread it to new people the next night that will suffer the same fight.

So either looping it by leashing, lynching me d1, or just accept the chaos and let it reign free with all the likely not so good consequences

This sounds like a trap role like Pine had in T v A.

[Titus]

@Vecna/chkflip chkflip said he couldn't let Vecna's role live but then doesn't vote Vecna. Vecna doesn't comment on it. What the? It's an odd interaction.

[Titus]

I'm not comfortable with letting Vecna live. Who knows what that virus actually does, hm? "It makes you a miller" smells like bullshit to me. Boon doesn't throw millers all over the place for the lulz. There's a reason for it, which has been "hinted" to Vecna, but it seems like he knows more about it than he's letting on. But that's just a hunch. We'll see where it goes.

True or false is your vote on Vecna on or after this comment?

[Titus]

I'll let the words speak for themselves. If the collective says I am wrongfully interpreting not comfortable with Vecna living as Vecna can live, I'll live with the fallacy they present.

Chronos, why did you appoint yourself Flip's laywer?

[Titus]

I'm not comfortable with letting Vecna live. -snip-

But that's just a hunch. We'll see where it goes.

Context.
Also, do you actually expect people to constantly be voting their latest stated scumread?

There's a difference between latest scumread and I don't want it to live.

[Titus]

Who knows

So you're randomly advising people on how to defend themselves and don't know why you're doing it?

[Titus]

I gtg to work.

[Titus]

H...H-...Hello!

Oh I am so sorry for how I lashed out at jjh earlier, I’m such a naughty person~

I don’t want the others to feel like I’m so aggressive, I’m just here to make friends...

But Vecna talking about spreading Corona is scaring me

I...don’t know if my reaction there was justified...But I guess I don’t require some hefty punishment unless I’m wrong about my assumptions on jjh...

I kind of feel bad for going so aggressive, can’t help it OwO

As your appointed lawyer, I suggest you plead the fifth on that one Mr Flip.

@Titus: Does reading the earlier two posts from Chronos change how you interpret her lawyer one?

Why would those posts change my opinion? Chronos feels chkflip's post was just as bad and advised him anyway.

[Titus]

What's interesting it that nobody has ever given a shit about me explaining things in detail before. Because it's kinda dumb to think town!me isn't gonna give a full explanation for something when there os one and there's someone asking for an explanation, and there's no downside to me explaining it. I'd like those who think that post I made was weird to read it with context and explain why they think it's weird outside of this idea that I can explain my thought process.

Dave has played with me before. He doesn't get a free pass.
VOTE: davesaz

Interesting you vote me for something I noticed during catchup, but didn't refer to anyone else who made the same observation about it being a lot of explanation. It's also interesting to note that I specifically said that I didn't remember the context (and still don't). So you'd like to have it looked at in context -- fine, that's part of the plan anyway.

This is not likely S v S. Gut says S v T but not certain.

[Titus]

So far, I like KK, Auro and Nom.

~M

I seriously do not get the Auro love. I think Auro Chronos and chkflip has the foundations of being a strong team.

[Titus]

@chk, serious question, why did you decide to play despite Titus and myself playing? Are you no longer pissed off at us?

If memory serves, I think I was one of the last to sign up.

[Titus]

Yeah we understand Nancy, have you talked with Shiro to carry for a while?

-K

Yeah, he promised he would but that’s on Shiro time . . . so . . .

I will it is just day 1 are never my strong point.

Cookie please?

[Titus]

I seriously do not get the Auro love

deal with it

I will. I'll get on the same page as people, or die trying.

[Titus]

Why would those posts change my opinion? Chronos feels chkflip's post was just as bad and advised him anyway.

I thought it was fairly obvious that the post was simply roleplaying and not serious at all?
If you didn't see it that way, I thought you'd conclude that after looking at the other two posts I quoted.

Still disagree?

That does make a bit of sense actually. I hate asperger's sometimes.

[Titus]

Nancy can you explain why you like me so far?
Didn't I tell you that if I'm looking towny I'm scum?

@Titus: Do you have an individual scumread on me or is it just an association read?

Individual but I am reassessing. Asperger's syndrome causes me to take things very literal and this might be a personality clash.

[Titus]

Happy advance birthday!

Thanks. Guess you were reading my ISO.

I'll be out tomorrow a lot.

[Titus]

Shallow work, no intricate hunting, and to go to such great extents to actually post it without a remote spark in her head going “this is too easy, is it really true?” + her making it sound confident is coming from scum more often than town.

A town wouldn’t have even bothered to post such nonsense. Let alone appearing as if they actually believed what they were saying.

Can you rephrase this? I read it three times and don't get it.

[Titus]

Unless "Auro sucks at mafia and if he's paranoid of KK then KK is probably town" but then I would be sad

You know for obvious reasons, I don’t think you’re bad at mafia but for some reason, you’re not great at reading Krazy. Am I allowed to bring up TM here or no?

Last game just ended.

[Titus]

Shallow work, no intricate hunting, and to go to such great extents to actually post it without a remote spark in her head going “this is too easy, is it really true?” + her making it sound confident is coming from scum more often than town.

A town wouldn’t have even bothered to post such nonsense. Let alone appearing as if they actually believed what they were saying.

Can you rephrase this? I read it three times and don't get it.

I figure this is the answer to a question, but I don't know what the question was.
So please also refer back to what you're answering. Thanks! (@Chronos)

The question is answering why Chronos is voting me. I just don't get the response.

[Titus]

Shallow work, no intricate hunting, and to go to such great extents to actually post it without a remote spark in her head going “this is too easy, is it really true?” + her making it sound confident is coming from scum more often than town.

A town wouldn’t have even bothered to post such nonsense. Let alone appearing as if they actually believed what they were saying.

Can you rephrase this? I read it three times and don't get it.

I’m saying you team building this early and selling it like you actually believe it is inherently scummy.

You shouldn’t have that level of confidence. The simple fact you actually posted it is baffling. Do you honestly believe in that pairing?

I post theories for feedback if I see a weird pattern develop. It's not a 100% lock theory. I rarely have a lock theory day 1. I hate day 1s overall. No hard data to see agendas. I read people in relation to each other.

[Titus]

Lol hold on did VM just TMI all 3 of me / chk and auro town?

VOTE: Venus and Mars

...what? How?

UNVOTE: Auro

[Titus]

Lol hold on did VM just TMI all 3 of me / chk and auro town?

VOTE: Venus and Mars

???

I haven’t TMI’d anyone and the only one I’m tl is Auro, so I don’t even know how tf you’re even coming up with that.

So you had better explain exactly wtf you’re referring to here.

Wait you're not townreading me?

[Titus]

hi nomnom
from what ive seen i like your playstyle, im excited to play with you
VOTE: krazy

Cool

Krazy Katz is hard town already

While I think you might be right about KK, nothing specifically in that post exactly screams “hard town” to me. Why couldn’t scum have made that post?

~M

Wait, Xtoxm made that post NOT KK. Are you sr Xtoxm, is that the basis for your hardtown read on KK?

~M

Lmao it took like 300 posts but someone still did the thing even though I fully explained some shit later

I suggest you look at the post immediately after that where I vote xtoxm, and my later post where I explain that I quoted xtoxm by accident and voted because it made for rvs content due to the possibility of somebody questioning wtf was going on with my reasoning there

Where are you at currently?

[Titus]

Where am I at where

I'm voting Dave with some conviction

I meant general reads. I don't like the exchange you and Dave had but I don't know why or which one. So maybe your reads elsewhere will help?

[Titus]

I literally explained how she’s world building on faulty, early, nonsensical assumptions that are too easy for a town to have such confidence on.

Except I didn't have extreme confidence?

[Titus]

What if it's just Chronos and chkflip and Auro was pocketed?

[Titus]

Ok I'm just utterly confused. How is it defensive to get Chronos to clarify his position if her assumption is proven wrong (namely that I'm super confident)?

[Titus]

What if it's just Chronos and chkflip and Auro was pocketed?

How was Auro pocketed? I’m not following, is he even tr either of them? *confuzzled*

The defense of chkflip's scummy post struck me as really odd. Chkflip is all Vecna can't live but let's see what happens in the same post. If chkflip truly believed Vecna's role was such cancer, then why would he not vote Vecna?

Chronos and Auro both jumped to chkflip's defense, which I felt really odd about.

[Titus]

Spoiler: quotes

Who knows

So you're randomly advising people on how to defend themselves and don't know why you're doing it?

H...H-...Hello!

Oh I am so sorry for how I lashed out at jjh earlier, I’m such a naughty person~

I don’t want the others to feel like I’m so aggressive, I’m just here to make friends...

But Vecna talking about spreading Corona is scaring me

I...don’t know if my reaction there was justified...But I guess I don’t require some hefty punishment unless I’m wrong about my assumptions on jjh...

I kind of feel bad for going so aggressive, can’t help it OwO

As your appointed lawyer, I suggest you plead the fifth on that one Mr Flip.

@Titus: Does reading the earlier two posts from Chronos change how you interpret her lawyer one?

Why would those posts change my opinion? Chronos feels chkflip's post was just as bad and advised him anyway.

So far, I like KK, Auro and Nom.

~M

I seriously do not get the Auro love. I think Auro Chronos and chkflip has the foundations of being a strong team.

Zero confidence for sure.

I wouldn't postulate zero confidence teams. There's a middle ground between 0 and 100.

[Titus]

Ngl Chronos fighting with nancy looks town indicative

*Throws hands up*

Did this thread suddenly get written in Greek?

[Titus]

Chkflip, no reason to tell people to go fuck themselves.

VOTE: chkflip

[Titus]

I'm out today. Birthday stuff. Please consolidate. X post all games.

[Titus]

Catching up now.

[Titus]

Ok I need a VC to tell heads or tails of this game. I want to see if Bailey Conspire and the Fonz contains multiple scum or not. The wagon motion is bothering me.

VC please

[Titus]

See, get Shiro. Thread is in Greek.

@Auro, Nancy Shiro and I go way back. Like years.

@Shiro, I need a cookie.

[Titus]

@Titus: Do you think their townread of you for that post is legitimate, then?

I think so. I wouldn't lock town them but they're one of my strongest TRs. They tend to know how I think. The biggest concern is Shiro's lack of cookie posting. I hard town Nancy, lean town Shiro.

[Titus]

In b4 Titus is a scum legend and therefore...pigs fly.

[Titus]

@Titus: Do you think their townread of you for that post is legitimate, then?

I think so. I wouldn't lock town them but they're one of my strongest TRs. They tend to know how I think.

The biggest concern is Shiro's lack of cookie posting

. I hard town Nancy, lean town Shiro.

Is Shiro known to low post as scum or what does -bolded- mean?

Basically even when Shiro low posts, I expect a Cookie gif. It goes back to our cookie hydra.

[Titus]

my own role has a modifier whose in game effect is explicitly unknown, so I'm guessing there may be other unexplained modifiers out there, one of which might confer immunity.

Umm what? This feels like you claiming Godfather but Boon explicitly bars those in his games.

[Titus]

I am not sure on this Vecna policy lynch. If he makes people millers, I can ensure that items work by adding a disloyal or loyal modifier to them.

[Titus]

I am not sure on this Vecna policy lynch. If he makes people millers, I can ensure that items work by adding a disloyal or loyal modifier to them.

1- cant u do this anyway

2-weren't u not going to claim ur mods?
-K

I wasn't going to, and I haven't claimed all of them but I figured it's relevant to Vecna's lynch.

[Titus]

@Titus



~Venus

I feel ashamed

Pocket achieved.

[Titus]

Or do 6u think the plague will work as an item that you can apply the mod to?

Not sure. I am wanting to see if it is or not. If it's not, I'd vote with reservations.

[Titus]

Have we played before? :3

I remember you most from team mafia.

[Titus]

Are you subtly telling me I didn't do anything as part of our hydra in Krazy's Apocalypse game

I think it's best for all of we pretend that game doesn't exist. I felt like I couldn't get to play and stopped really trying. I don't consider that a win.

[Titus]

Well, i fucked up then sorry. I'm still trying to get the hang of the game. I still can barely fucking win newbie games so that should speak for itself.

Winning or losing a newbie game is not a sign of skill. The important thing is to understand. Comprehend or not, there is no try.

[Titus]

Let's hurry up and finish the BR lynch. The resistance right before claim spot screams not town. Don't you guys think scum would ensure we got that claim before backing off if BR was town?

[Titus]

Wrong game.

[Titus]

Drunk Titus might show tonight.

[Titus]

Drunk Titus might show tonight.

let me know when and I'll probably join you

VOTE: Mechanic

-K

Well I have started drinking.

[Titus]

Liquor stores are closed but I have this magical leaf stuff we grow in Canada. If that can count.

You poor thing.

[Titus]

I started drinking because getting basic food is a journey now. I feel sorry if you can't even drink. I hope people are more reasonable when it comes to food.

[Titus]

Who the crap is this? Is this another Elsa Jay/Bambi Jay situation?

[Titus]

VOTE: Vecna

Not 100% sure I agree with this policy lynch given who is pushing it but I can't refute the logic behind it either. Therefore, Drunk Titus will plug her nose and vote.

[Titus]

Drunk Titus, who do you dislike that's pushing vecna?

-K

Chkflip.

I know people say I'm crazy there but I find it odd the Vecna push happens just after that.

[Titus]

Chkflip.

I know people say I'm crazy there but I find it odd the Vecna push happens just after that.

if you don't like chkflip why not just push chkflip instead of saying "oh mang don't like the wagon in response to chkflip mangg"

-K

Tried it. Been trying it. Been told off repeatedly.

[Titus]

chk is like... idk, butt I don't think anyone wud call u krazy for pushing him yaaaa?

-K

Look at how many times people said I misrepped chkflip and try to tell me that again.

[Titus]

you didn't misrep chkflip titus he scummy

he scummy scummy scummy

I don'tknow if he flip scum but he is scummy

he's like way more political this game

now that coudl be because he got NANCYDDDDDDD

but hes deffos more political and that means it is wise to be wary

u feel me girrlllllll??>???

-K

I feel you definitely. But that doesn't leave drunk or sober me with a confident lynch choice. My gut says Auro isn't town but no one will tell me why he is. Chronos is an ass.

But then there's the wagon dispersal and threats which suggest one of the wagons is on scum.

So I'm just ahhhhh

[Titus]

Sorry I stopped being here. Real life is imploding with these court closures. It'll be done in a day or two.

[Titus]

@Conspire why are you voting Titus right now? I'm not really understanding your push

She throws out conclusions that don't make sense or look real to me. Like the 3 person scumteam she proposed, or the these two people might be pocketing this person thing. Basically, her solving feels unnatural to me.

-Cosmic

Most people feel my solving is unnatural. It picks up later. I read people in relation to each other. So my scumteam suggestions are rarely spot on day 1, but they usually have at least one scum. It's an odd dynamic between players.

[Titus]

I see. Do you mind answering the questions I asked you a while back?

-Cosmic

Can you quote them? I have been a space cadet at work, stressed.

[Titus]

Ok I need a VC to tell heads or tails of this game. I want to see if Bailey Conspire and the Fonz contains multiple scum or not. The wagon motion is bothering me.

VC please

Hey, Titus! What did you learn from the VC then?

Drunk Titus, who do you dislike that's pushing vecna?

-K

Chkflip.

I know people say I'm crazy there but I find it odd the Vecna push happens just after that.

What do you mean here? You dislike how many people started pushing Vecna after chkflip started the wagon?

-Cosmic

Tbh I need to go into more detail on the VCs. Planning to tonight if I do not crash. If I do, tmo morning.

I don't like how a chkflip led wagon took off. I also don't like the timing that it happened right after the accusations of misrepping him. I feel stuck though because without more from Vecna, it seems to be the right play. My role suggests to me lynching Vecna might be wrong. No matter what answer I pick it feels wrong.

[Titus]

I like to think God is watching upon his creation, me, and thinking "What an absolute moron for not voting Titus right now" and wants to smite me to the very depths of this earth.

I'm thinking God has me more along the lines of "Why is my creation is weak day 1? Scum always want to lynch it. Certain town players ego fight her. Why can't she just get along right now?"

[Titus]

I don't like how a chkflip led wagon took off. I also don't like the timing that it happened right after the accusations of misrepping him. I feel stuck though because without more from Vecna, it seems to be the right play. My role suggests to me lynching Vecna might be wrong. No matter what answer I pick it feels wrong.

So you think chkflip might be scum for other reasons, and since he started the wagon and it took off, it makes the wagon bad. I'd think the people joining in the wagon have a proportionaely increased chance of being town>scum but that's not really worth discussing, I think.
Do you have any other reason to dislike chkflip other than his lack of voting Vecna?

-Cosmic

You mean his lackadaisical attitude towards sorting me despite it being his priority? He's starting from RVS saying he could and he wanted to but his attempts at sorting me have been nothing more than jabs. I know I'm town so I wonder why he hasn't seen it.

[Titus]

Girl bye you were way more of a front in the last Boon game and in this one you're riding on "I'm TrAsH dAy OnE" and doing fuck all. I don't have the time or energy to sort 16 people D1. Your slot, being a renegade of all things, will likely figure itself out. But if you want to do more than fucking shade me all day then square up.

Just because you don't like my conclusion doesn't make it "fuck all". You claim you don't have the energy to sort 16 people. Great. Neither do I. However, you should sort the one person you've been saying you would and sort me with integrity and respect. You've done neither.

I have come to conclusions and postulated theories. These theories were just as decried as bad in the last Boon game. Lesser discussed theory was there was something off in RCE/BEF.

Someday, I'll convince people to join me but your push on me is far from genuine. Whether its hold over from the boon game or your red role pm, you decided you'd shade me rather than sort me from go. Otherwise, you'd have a read by now and either agree with Nancy or fight her.

Yet, you don't want to fight Nancy or call me the town I am. So you dicker with your head between your legs coasting and stalling. Nancy is hard to go to to toe with bc the AtE. Calling me town means you'd have to work with me, admit you wasted time, and eat humble pie. The latter risks derailing Vecna.

So yeah, I don't trust you. Pick a read on me.

[Titus]

Ok yeah Vecna's scum. I didn't read that fight in detail but accusing Nancy of lying and saying I should know better is enough for a scumread combined with his role.

I also don't trust the infect back comment. Infect back only works if we never lynch the slots he targets but he refuses to townread Nancy and Auro (I think this is what Vecna meant by pops hydra) who I feel are the most likely obvtown slots.

[Titus]

Titus, come back in here and tell me if you seriously think im scum here.

I need to catch up with the thread. I'm still working (one of the few) and Wednesday is Godaughter night.

Based on the skim of chkflip's reaction to your targets, I'm leaning town on you. I have always been conflicted on your slot. Basically, I feel chkflip is scum but I couldn't refute his arguments, which means the optimal play is to plug my nose and help bus.

I need to see how your additions (which I am inferring there are based on Venus's reaction) change the analysis.

Do you think chkflip is scum flailing and most of the wagons that took (3+ people) were on scum and we just can't agree?

[Titus]

UNVOTE: Vecna

[Titus]

Wait a second.... earlier you said it's possible this could be multi-ball....right? Is it possible there's a jester?

Disregard this...... I think I need more sleep.

While jester isn't a possible alignment, jester fake play tends to come from town.

[Titus]

3 i'm pretty sure.

1 Vecna Infectious Millerizer
1 KrazyKat Miller
1 Titus Item/thing (idk what she exactly does tbh)

I attach abilities to items. Such as fruit. If Vecna's ability spreads, it works counter to some of my abilities but not others. In other words, I can get positive utility out of my role, but some functions get nerfed.

[Titus]

And yes, youre usually pretty good at catching me as scum and not that quick to jump to wrong conclusions when im town.

Pretty sure we had epic fights before Civ mafia. The game eludes me. Now that I am doing an in depth read, rather than skimming, you feel townier.

[Titus]

Howdy partners. I've arbitrarily decide Michael Scott is town VOTE: BTE

I think he is too, what does that have to do with BTE?

That's where MS is voting and I trust him undoubtedly.

I still have never gotten an answer as to why MS is so trusted.

[Titus]

I'm mostly talking about the conspire question. I think conspire is just trying to confirm a piece of information and George reiterating there seems like he has no idea what it is.

Vecna even bringing it up suggests he knows. And I know what he knows. All town should get what I'm getting at.

My logic comes from the moon, so no.

[Titus]

Is it obvious to you what pick you submitted to yield this as a role?

Why would this be relevant?

As I've said (but you may not have read) it seems obvious that the mod chose role and alignment based on the picks.

Yeah, I wanted Renegade to make scum compulsive loyal strongmen. The mod instead gave me something cool but not what I could do.

[Titus]

My role pm doesnt state anywhere that I cannot, so I assume so.

Also, the symbiote thing has additional interactions with the loyal disloyal modifiers that are not in that spoiler (if I symbiotize or we the verb is a scum, disloyal actions on me will suddnely succeed since theyre affected by the guy im symbiotic with)

This is correct. Boon added a modifier called split in the last game to where a person had to target different people.

[Titus]

VOTE: BTE

I'm working off my chkflip panicking theory here. I don't have a solid TR on BTE, so I'm ok voting here for now. Let's see what happens.

[Titus]

Vecna, send it over and I can add but not replace a modifier. It doesn't change the existing ones.

[Titus]

I think the barb sender is probably scum but I can neuter that probably.

[Titus]

Scum that activated a written in-game scene? Doubtful.

You mean someone who didn't put me to the test on my role?

Activated in scene is irrelevant.

[Titus]

3 i'm pretty sure.

1 Vecna Infectious Millerizer
1 KrazyKat Miller
1 Titus Item/thing (idk what she exactly does tbh)

I attach abilities to items. Such as fruit. If Vecna's ability spreads, it works counter to some of my abilities but not others. In other words, I can get positive utility out of my role, but some functions get nerfed.

so do you have any such items?
or do you need to receive the eg fruit, before you can do anything with your role?

Vecna, send it over and I can add but not replace a modifier. It doesn't change the existing ones.

so i take it thats a yes? you havent conveyed it very well
i'd appreciate it if you didnt make us have to read between the lines and guess how your claimed role works

I need to receive the items. I figured that's clear and common sense.

[Titus]

Do you also give the items?

I can give the items I receive.

[Titus]

Their entrance to the game and then their ISO 3 post calling everyone morons. The roleplay feels like it's coming from a place of fun instead of a place of "I need a bullshit filter so I'm not scumread".

I agree with this. Their play in Alisae vs Pine felt more like they were fake frustrated/annoyed, and Dunn was very whiney (for lack of a better word). He seems different here.

-Cosmic

Too many pronouns. Can you repeat this post replacing he and their with the actual names? I am not sure who Dunn is.

[Titus]

So assuming 1 from Beau and 1 from Theb.

Any thoughts on whether this might be a day ability instead of coming from the mod?

Titus, are you limited in terms of number of items?

My role PM has explicitly no limitation on the number of items, but adding must be done at night

[Titus]

I don't think it's a coincidence that Vecna is claiming to have got an item at the halfway mark in the day

What's your implication?

The item existing is mod confirmed. This shade from jjh is bad.

[Titus]

Exactly. I'm surprised no one's pushed to policy lynch us out of fear yet.

This suggests documenting your reads. If no one pushes you, likely scum are using you/unafraid or you just really are hard to push.

[Titus]

who has not played with nancy titus or jjh hmmmmm

Can confirm that this is the case.

-Cosmic

*blink* Welcome to the newbie. It's a rare person that hasn't seen my brand of moonlogic. Throw in Nancy, Shiro and jjh and damn

[Titus]

Gut feeling one of you is scum here.

If you honestly think it could be me, you need to consult a gastroenterologist STAT.

Yeah, don't think I am ever lynching Nancy here.

[Titus]

Thinking out loud, I don't think vecna is groupscum still, but off roleclaim I'd still not commit to him being town. I'd say he's either town or traitor. I mention this because the last symbiote I remember in one of these games was a traitor. The hardclaim does also guarantee he is never targeted by a scum nightkill I think

Do you think I’m jumping the gun on RCE? I don’t understand why he doesn’t view all of his waffling as scummy? Now he’s saying scum may be “forced” to kill him? Wtf?

I don't see why RCE thinks scum would kill him.

[Titus]

VOTE: Nancy

If she's town here then I'm the A50 of this game and that's unfortunate but no other lynch measures up to this one.

If you push this, I'll vote you. I'm that confident in Nancy town.

[Titus]

If you were obviously town, I wouldn't be voting you.

Please I feel flip is much more likely to be scum than RCE.

[Titus]

If you were obviously town, I wouldn't be voting you.

Please I feel flip is much more likely to be scum than RCE.

I don’t understand why you’re so convinced chk is scum here? He’s being obtuse and dense, just like he was in the last game.

It feels faked here.

[Titus]

These conversations are why I hate meta. Can we agree that regardless of who scumreads whom that we're all good peopke?

[Titus]

I am not sure if what to think of BTE. My gut instinct is anti-town play, lynch. Yet he claimed it when he could have coasted on it as it was a day event. Just an odd move overall that doesn't help his alignment, whatever it is.

[Titus]

I need to take a day. I may pop in although I shouldn't. The shelter in place is triggering my PTSD badly. I am particularly concerned I will take it out on aggressive males.

[Titus]

I need to take a day. I may pop in although I shouldn't. The shelter in place is triggering my PTSD badly. I am particularly concerned I will take it out on aggressive males.

You’re currently living in a shelter? That’s rough, please stay safe. <3

No. Chkflip is correct. I put more in the speakeasy if you are still confused.

[Titus]

Is there anything urgent I need to read in the explosion of posts last night? I just want to play with poisonous inactivated barbs. What could go wrong?

[Titus]

@Titus, would you strongly object to being passed a barb? I clarified with Boon that me being passed it wasn't it being used on me, and me passing it isn't me using it either. I feel there's some town utility in testing your role, and you may (do not comment here on whether you can or not) be able to make it loyal, disloyal or desperate in a way that helps confirm alignment down the road. I don't want you not to receive anything, and I don't want Nancy to have to declare where she's sending.

I would love a barb. I would love all the barbs. This is an excellent idea.

[Titus]

Nancy, let the thread breathe. Let scum make a move. Either a) the scum are using you, b) you're helping them, or c) they're coasting. You may learn more by listening.

[Titus]

Nancy, let the thread breathe. Let scum make a move. Either a) the scum are using you, b) you're helping them, or c) they're coasting. You may learn more by listening.

How are you so sure they’re not pushing me? because I’m not but you may have a point. I just can’t recall any game ever where I hardclaimed tpr and STILL continued to get sr for it. That has literally never happened to me before and I honestly don’t know how to wrap my brain around it.

I include scum pushing you as categories a b and c.

[Titus]

@Nom: JJH has many strong townreads, yet no "true" scumreads - is there something wrong with JJH?
Krazy Kat has sorta just been sheeping me around and stated multiple times there's no great lynch - and finally voted you without much explanation. Is there something wrong with Krazy Kat?
Why are they not more controversial than GeorgeBailey?

A lot of slots don't quite have strong/"true" scumreads. Attacking him over his reads list is meh.

You don't only produce reactions from the slot you're voting for - you produce reactions from the rest of the game towards the wagon.

I agree with the reactions thing wholeheartedly.

I agree with nom on JJH.

[Titus]

And I don't know how anyone can feel chk is faking here. His frustration with Nancy feels SUPER genuine.

Sure. It's genuine but it's NAI.

[Titus]

His casing and conviction on Nancy!scum also comes off as very genuine. As does RCE's to me.

Yes. It's genuine frustration. But is it frustration because Nancy's right, Nancy's unlynchable and they're too lazy/incapable of pushing elsewhere/want the gamestate to remain static, or because they feel her posting in a threat to town? All of these would generate genuine frustration with Nancy, which is why I advised Nancy to slow down posting.

[Titus]

But I'm talking about their conviction that Nancy is scum - that would have to be faked. If they were advocating a lynch on Nancy for being *anti-town* then yes, but Chk actually believes Nancy is scum imitating her town meta.

Yeah I can't go that far because my eyes glaze over reading it. Luckily, my roomate makes cookies.

[Titus]

This seems like a really easy mislynch on newb!town to me, guys.

Exactly. GB's tone is pretty fine.

Chk, can you stash the whole Nancy thing for the day? I think Nancy's town and while I see your case, a large part of it is just how Nancy plays.

What really blows my mind is that I’ve been pretty much mindmelding with him on his reads and he seems to view that as scum indicative for some reason, that no one has been able to figure out yet.

Perspective slip? Otherwise, he'd be big on you agency capturing him.

[Titus]

A large part of my case was about how Nancy is well aware of her town meta and is using that to her advantage in this game, but sure. I've no qualms with ignoring that for a while. Expect it to keep coming up though seeing as now the insults have now succumbed to not only I'm "bad at mafia," but now I'm "never going to make it on mafiascum" which is fucking laughably insulting.

Pedit: my anger is "faked." That's all they've said.

That's my secret, Cap. I'm always angry.

Nice misrep there champ. That was Titus who said that but hey keep up the misrep.

I said that if you have shitty sr like you do so far in THIS game, no one will take your sr seriously in future games. I would think that even you would realize that to be self-evident but maybe I’m giving you way too much credit?

Wait, what did I say?

[Titus]

This seems like a really easy mislynch on newb!town to me, guys.

Exactly. GB's tone is pretty fine.

Chk, can you stash the whole Nancy thing for the day? I think Nancy's town and while I see your case, a large part of it is just how Nancy plays.

What really blows my mind is that I’ve been pretty much mindmelding with him on his reads and he seems to view that as scum indicative for some reason, that no one has been able to figure out yet.

Perspective slip? Otherwise, he'd be big on you agency capturing him.

I’ve heard you use that term before - agency capturing. What does that mean again?

Scum tricking town into working for them. In this case, thinking someone is scum who agrees with all your reads should show major dissonance somewhere. Either a) the scumread is wrong or b) one of the pair is agency captured.

[Titus]

[Titus]

Nancy, may I be blunt with the both of you?

[Titus]

Nancy, may I be blunt with the both of you?

Hey wait a minute why aren't you asking me?

*cough*

Because you aren't prone to flying off the handle like this usually.

*sits you both down*

Let me be frank with you. Regardless of your alignment, no one cares about your bitchfight. You're clogging up the thread. Town like me can't get reads on anyone else because there's pages of you two going back and forth about how you're unrequited and therefore right. Fact is, no one cares. You know what will make people care? Shutting the fuck up about each other and finding scum or other scum. Let the thread breathe.

Although I doubt you're town chkflip and I doubt even further you're right on Nancy, use her reads on other slots to find other scum. Lord knows she'll comment on everything. In doing so, maybe you'll convince me you're not just spamming but have a worthwhile read.

[Titus]

VOTE: nomnom

Not townreading nom, and I'll put my money where my mouth is on sorting.

[Titus]

Titus - are you still team-speccing right now? What association solves do you have right now?

I still feel something was off in the you, chkflip, Chronos interactions. I doubt you are the precise team although no one will help me get on the same pages.

I also wouldn't be surprised with a lot of lurker scum right now, given the public blow ups atm.

[Titus]

I still feel something was off in the you, chkflip, Chronos interactions.

That teamsolve is terribly outdated and there have been many interactions since then, it's weird you didn't form any associative reads since then, no?

Read the next sentence and paragraph. Something is off =/= you are the exact team.

[Titus]

Read the next sentence and paragraph. Something is off =/= you are the exact team.

I wasn't attacking you over the {Chk/Auro/Chronos} teamsolve, I'm saying it's weird that you were quick to jump on that particular team based on interactions and ignore the many interactions between other slots that happened later in game, even if people are lurking.

I haven't deliberately ignored anything. Seeing through the fights and the spam makes it hard to read anyone on a good day. I also was fighting epic stress and a migraine.

[Titus]

VOTE: nomnom

Not townreading nom, and I'll put my money where my mouth is on sorting.

I might totally OMGUS this because my bullshit meters are going strong
VOTE: Titus

I think you’re both town.

Why isn’t anyone answering my Chronus question? Why are they obvtown?

They aren't.

[Titus]

VOTE: nomnom

Not townreading nom, and I'll put my money where my mouth is on sorting.

I might totally OMGUS this because my bullshit meters are going strong
VOTE: Titus

I still think Titus is scummy too, but she's claimed a role that can give loyal/disloyal modifiers to people - which would be crazy useful. So she shouldn't be a day 1 lynch.

-Cosmic

I think Conspire is town.

I concur. I agree that I haven't done my best due to life and illness so a consistent SR but saying I am not a day one lynch is reasonable.

[Titus]

Why Kakeguri Addicts? Haven't been scumpinged by them at all this game.

-Cosmic

+1, nom made 1 AtE and wham wagon moved.

[Titus]

Also, though I do like chronos following the Titus vote. There is still the possibility Titus is calling the scumteam (mostly or completely) correctly and chronos frustration is coming from that. When they feel the pairing shouldn't be that obvious.

Did not read why Titus had that grouping in the first place and I'm also not sure I've seen Titus doing day 1 associations ever?

I actually did Day 1 associations with you and BEF in the last BooneyTunes game. I said that interaction never felt right. I kept getting brushed off there too.

[Titus]

Fun fact: Thor665 was my first IC in my first newbie game. Good times. What I really mean is relying on meta isn't a great idea. Anyway. Booooooyyyyyy you know who I want to say. But I'm fairly content with nomnomnom with an outside reach for a few others. I'd be okay with Kakeguri over George as far as my townreads go if we have to suffice to a low info lynch. I'm just getting aggravated that there's so much koombaya chill with very little agreement on where we should go.

Thor was my first IC too. Miss him. I agree with the meta lesson.

I don't like the chill either but I lack the energy and wherewithal to lead on. Plus, my reads my reads are less accurate on Day 1.

[Titus]

I'm also frustrated because I feel this is a personal attack on my VCA driven not by scum but by pride. Day 1 is the most useful day but no strong wagons.

[Titus]

Also, though I do like chronos following the Titus vote. There is still the possibility Titus is calling the scumteam (mostly or completely) correctly and chronos frustration is coming from that. When they feel the pairing shouldn't be that obvious.

Did not read why Titus had that grouping in the first place and I'm also not sure I've seen Titus doing day 1 associations ever?

I actually did Day 1 associations with you and BEF in the last BooneyTunes game. I said that interaction never felt right. I kept getting brushed off there too.

Oh that was because of the flavor and an assumed traitor crumb.

I didn't know it at the time. All I knew was there was something off in the interactions. That's how I feel about the interactions earlier. It's not a scum team call out, just I think scum is in there.

[Titus]

VOTE: No Lynch

Da faq?

[Titus]

chronos frustration is coming from that

I think "scum caught for the wrong reasons" is a very annoying stance to take. What differentiates that from town being frustrated at bad reasoning?

The only thing I took issue with is the whole weird TMI thing, based off of all I asked was why she would auto jump to Titus!scum < over Titus being wrong. I still don’t get how anyone reads TMI off of that.

I need this broken down. I've lost the thread.

[Titus]

Shoot your Goddamn shot already, Titus.

I'm not a day vig and I've already claimed?

[Titus]

Shoot your Goddamn shot already, Titus.

I'm not a day vig and I've already claimed?

You know for a fact that's not what I'm talking about.

Say it directly. You know how literal I am.

[Titus]

You've been meandering and pitter-pattering around your read on me all day, Titus. Shoot your shot already. Not just vibes. Not one strange interaction. It's pretty clear what your read is on me. I just want to see you stop fence sitting on it until you feel like people will listen to you. Shoot your shot.

Or at the very least interact with me, ffs.

It's pretty clear I scumread you. It's pretty clear that it's not based just on the one interaction. I've attempted to get you lynched. That ship has sailed. All of my scumreads or strong information lynches got vetoed.

Instead, we can't even decide which lurker to put in threat range. I can't get the useful data to reassess because no one is working as a team.

I feel your bitchfight with obvtown Nancy is a huge part of why no one could interact with anyone else this game. You know exactly how volatile she is, and you copushed a nonsense fight with her.

I am trying to get more solid reads but until there's some solid fucking teamwork somewhere it's like draining the sea with a teaspoon.

[Titus]

You've made no actual attempt to get me lynched, Titus, what are you even on about.

I have along with Auro and Chronos. I got laughed and ridiculed at. So I gave up. I don't have the energy to fight a town that doesn't want to be lead.

So, I'll just vote for the least bad option at this point.

[Titus]

Welp, it's my bed time. Tomorrow's my last day of work. Then house preparations.

I'll largely be here Tuesday and Wednesday (with a brief excursion likely a couple hours before deadline).

Please try to work together with others if you're town. Give me something to analyze and lynch please.

[Titus]

Welp, it's my bed time. Tomorrow's my last day of work. Then house preparations.

I'll largely be here Tuesday and Wednesday (with a brief excursion likely a couple hours before deadline).

Please try to work together with others if you're town. Give me something to analyze and lynch please.

Ebwop, Town should lynch. Town does not need to give me suspects. I got those already. Poor word choice.

[Titus]

I think so. I would have hammered because of their lurking and claim. They had zero solving towards their own wagon.

[Titus]

The Nintendo Switch is indeed a gaming console.

[Titus]

I don't know what happened there or why Nom would fake a guilty but to block me using my abilities. I got one poisonous barb and one from the prize. I legit got items. Let me prove myself and show Nom's lying or someone made me a Miller that shouldn't have.

[Titus]

Could Barb be a millerizer item?

That would be an interesting theory. It would be poisonous to cop results but why aren't you just coasting on my mislynch?

[Titus]

Cause I'm not scum? What sort of answer do yiu expect

It was more thinking out loud.

[Titus]

we aren't living in a world where poisonous barbs turns someone into a miller, I refuse to believe that
We already have someone that millerizes other people and there are sticky fruits going around.
My cop shot can only be used night 1, I refuse to believe that barbs would make 50%+ of my shots give me a false results. That's not happening.

Well the barbs can be distributed and my bet is scum know they do.

With my ability, your ability, KA's ability, etc town would be stacked without some sort of hidden ability.

[Titus]

If the barb turns someone into a miller we'll know it with a Titus lynch
in all cases the only correct play is to lynch titus

Wrong, as I can attach and pass modifiers on the barbs. I'll literally be giving out cop shots on them which gets to the bottom of this.

The worst thing to do is lynch me.

[Titus]

Nom, if you're saying there's no world where town is smart, I'll live with that. Framing me is exactly the move I'd do as scum. It eliminates cop checks and frames whoever gets a guilty on me. Thus snowballing.

I also never make it to Lylo in this player list even if my reads are batshit wrong.

[Titus]

By the way titus:
the only reason you are hiding your modifiers is because you already know your modifiers are scummy and meant to fuck with investigations, or outright kill people by making them weak for example.
That's why you argued to get a barb

Weak is not one of the modifiers. Loyal and Disloyal are the big ones. There's also a healing one too.

[Titus]

I got one poisonous barb and one from the prize

That's the prize?
O.o

I could have picked a stuffed elephant. Boon gave a choice.

[Titus]

Why pick "poisonous barb" over an elephant?

Less uncertainty. Poisonous barb is or will be a known entity.

Loyal, Disloyal, Ascetic, Macho, or Healing (protection)

Those are the modifiers. I had no intention of using ascetic or macho but having them suggested a bulletproof scum.

[Titus]

Poisonous Barb sounds pretty -town though.
Modifiers apply to the use of items and not passing them around, yes?

Yes. The modifiers attach to the item, not the player.

So if I attached disloyal to them, they become bullets that only hit scum. That's my theory anyway.

[Titus]

So scum would really want me dead today. Whether that's nom or someone else I don't know. I'm just as likely a frame target as I am a suicide on target.

[Titus]

Oh by the way titus, why do you keep talking about barbs like it's something you can send to someone?
After all nothing was mentioned about being able to send barbs to people, so why do you make it sound like it's something you can do?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Because that's been known since yesterday. The Fonz offered to send me his.

You know aside from my claim in my first post since I didn't start with any items.

[Titus]

OK. I'm giving Titus a bard. Y'all others can decide where you want to go, but if you send there be aware you're duplicating.

@Nom

[Titus]

Good reminder though, I guess.
I ain't moving though.

Well it's a good thing that I can still scumhunt around you.

What do you think of George unvoting me?

[Titus]

I ain't answering.
I'm going to keep my cards to myself, the rest of them anyway.

So you scumhunting is cards to hold now? It's not like I asked you about you claim?

Do you find it more likely town or scum motivated to unvote me here? Why?

[Titus]

Titus, how come you're not considering that she's scum guiltying you?

I have been considering both conclusions simultaneously. I can bold and quote where if needed.

[Titus]

It makes absolute sense.

Having two leashed bullets every night effectively creates two resolved slots each night phase until scum are hit.

I make the barbs disloyal. People shoot them at players. Game gets solved with no room for error. Scary place for scum.

It's just not worth lynching nom today because if she lives, she's confscum. If she dies, we'll have more data to solve with.

[Titus]

Titus just has an extremely game winning

scum

town role and does not want to get lynched through any way possible.

If you believed my role to be as I claimed without your professed guilty, would you lynch it?

[Titus]

Could Barb be a millerizer item?

we have no evidence supporting that, no
unless you have some to offer yourself
this is wild and unhelpful speculation

It's not wild and unhelpful when giving me one day is autowin for town.

[Titus]

I have no reason to do this as scum.
If I wanted town!titus to have no effect as scum!nom, there's this wonderful tool called

the scum factional nightkill

.
If Titus' role was that much of a threat to scum, they probably would have realized that by now and committed the nightkill on her seeing that barbs could potentially mechlock this game, but it didn't happen and we lost Vecna instead, who can make a scum ascetic.
I have no reason to gambit here. None.

Yes, kill a mislynchable slot when you can fake a claim on it instead.

Or

You were setup.

Either way, lynching me is game throwing.

[Titus]

There is absolutely nothing in this game, no mechanic, that protects you from this guilty.
A gambit here from scum!me makes no sense and you already know it.
It's over, Titus.

You can keep repeating that, and I know I'll never convince you.

Yet, for a slot that's set to die, you sure aren't interested in scumhunting. You're more interested in rhetorical gotcha games which fail because I am town.

The simplest explanation is that either a) you're lying or b) you're being setup because the barb is a scum tool.

The more you resist basic questions, the more it looks like you're lying. If you survive, town can just lynch you tomorrow. So it really just makes sense to try and pump you full of reads questions regardless of if you're lying or honest.

[Titus]

Engage me. I'll be free tmo. It's bed time here. Let's discuss reads.

After all, you think I am confscum. Wouldn't you want those nice juicy associatives?

Let's start with George.

[Titus]

You're saying that after she already implied BP N2

Then she's not suicidal. Either she dies or she doesn't. She's schrodinger's cop.

If she dies, we get proof the barbs are Millers and clearing tools.

[Titus]

Oh great, so now I am simultaneously ascetic and guilty?

How much do people really take me for?

[Titus]

When did I say you were ascetic? I said I got no result.

~Amrun

Then the logical conclusion is roleblocked not guilty, particularly when someone else already has a fake guilty on me. Yet, you jumped to the scum conclusion implying I was ascetic.

[Titus]

Slow down on the wagon. Let people speak.

What do you think of George's unvote?

[Titus]

When did I say you were ascetic? I said I got no result.

~Amrun

Then the logical conclusion is roleblocked not guilty, particularly when someone else already has a fake guilty on me. Yet, you jumped to the scum conclusion implying I was ascetic.

What?

Why would me being roleblocked mean you were not guilty? How are those related?

I got some strange virus thing that totally mutated my role. I have no idea how that interacts with my results. It is the logical conclusion that my results are unreliable vs nomnom.

~Amrun

Then why are you voting as if your results matter rather than just blocked.

Why aren't you suspecting the guy who claimed the same role as you?

[Titus]

Slow down on the wagon. Let people speak.

What do you think of George's unvote?

Oh, I'm sorry.

Are we friends now, Titus?

We're always friends IRL.

In game, we still see but there's no harm in working with you to figure out. Now can you answer my question or does this just get tossed in the circular file with me trying to understand this game?

[Titus]

But damn 3 night 1 cops, I am kinda lost in what is going on here.

~Venus

The one cop that got a result is fucked with.

Krazy should claim their prize btw.

[Titus]

Therefore my conclusion is that she gave the Virus a disloyal modifier, making K/K and potentially Chkflip unable to target any scum with their items.
Is that checkmate?

Impossible. I have to have items in my possession to give them modifiers.

[Titus]

In game, we still see but there's no harm in working with you to figure out. Now can you answer my question or does this just get tossed in the circular file with me trying to understand this game?

Didn't really seem that way D1. What changed?

Well, aside from the obvious.

I've been trying to work with you. That's why I told you your pointless fight with obvtown Nancy was clogging the game and making it hard to read you. That's why I'd keep asking the same questions hoping to get a fucking answer.

[Titus]

Therefore my conclusion is that she gave the Virus a disloyal modifier, making K/K and potentially Chkflip unable to target any scum with their items.

The virus isnt an item, the sticky fruits are.

Boon confirmed to me in PM just now that the virus is an item

what didnt someone just say tha tit didnt count for them in the item coutner ?

~Venus

Sush, just ignore nom and let's scumhunt.

Talk to me about George.

[Titus]

I am not sure on this Vecna policy lynch. If he makes people millers, I can ensure that items work by adding a disloyal or loyal modifier to them.

Caught you in a lie.
Nice try. You might have doomed your own scumteam. That's fairly sad.

Right. They still have to come to me first.

Otherwise, I have no mod confirmation they exist.

You're arguing for the mafia equivalent of "I attack the darkness".

[Titus]

We did get a choice between a barb and an elephant and Krazy chose elephant.

~Amrun

I can vouch for these being the choices.

@Nancy,

Why did you only answer the scum rationale? I'm town and you know it.

[Titus]

But you didn't claim ascetic and the other modifier then, why?

Who is this question directed to?

Titus. She said loyal/disloyal modifier but didn't mention tbe ones which seem +scum whereas she did today.

I hinted at it post 1.

[Titus]

Hey, I'm claiming post one

since my role can be negative utility

. I'm a handsy renegade. I can assign modifiers to items, not people. I request to keep the modifiers hidden at this time because that would help scum.

Bold added for Auro.

[Titus]

So keeping scummy modifiers hidden helps town but outing the towny modifiers is OK? c'mon

Yes. The loyal and disloyal were required to optimize actions.

The ascetic and macho modifiers just tell scum I know they likely have powerful protection against KPN.

That's why I want to give the barbs disloyal tonight.

[Titus]

The ascetic and macho modifiers just tell scum I know they likely have powerful protection against KPN.

Why would they care that you know that again?

They could make a slip or otherwise try to confirm themselves and I'd have proof they were lying. Plus, with the advent of the virus, getting ascetic on the right item might be an immunity.

[Titus]

I'm going to bed. If I'm here tomorrow, I'd like to talk and get some reads out. If not, well you know what to do.

[Titus]

Titus can attach modifiers to them, so maybe let's pass them to her!

It's still autowin if we do that.

[Titus]

For which faction titus?

Town duh. My role is claimed post 1. If town lunches me, we flat out deserve to lose. It's kinda apathy inducing to have a scum game so lauded that I can't even preserve an autowin as town.

[Titus]

Titus, can you not see why nothing about your role is autowin if you're actually town?

Give people disloyal vig shots. Two clears per night.

Items keep funneling. Loyal fruits.

I am legit scum's problem only.

[Titus]

so titus, when you give out a mod to an item, all copies of that item also get the mod?

Did you give the elephant any mods?

No.

No, as I never had an elephant in my posession.

[Titus]

For which faction titus?

Town duh. My role is claimed post 1. If town lunches me, we flat out deserve to lose. It's kinda apathy inducing to have a scum game so lauded that I can't even preserve an autowin as town.

So how do you explain the red peek? Is nom faking it?

Items millerize or nom faking to survive.

[Titus]

Titus hasn't claimed to have got a sticky fruit though

I did not.

[Titus]

What happened to you last night wrt items, Titus? Walk us all through every item related thing that has happened to you

1) Received a barb from someone. Assumption: The Fonz. Formatting similar to George's dust description.

2) Got a choice of barb or elephant from the Boonus Round. I picked the barb again.

That's all I have direct knowledge of.

[Titus]

For which faction titus?

Town duh. My role is claimed post 1. If town lunches me, we flat out deserve to lose. It's kinda apathy inducing to have a scum game so lauded that I can't even preserve an autowin as town.

So how do you explain the red peek? Is nom faking it?

Items millerize or

nom faking to survive

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Why would nom do this though? I don't think it'll work out well in the grand scheme of things

~Esper

Sacrificing one to ensure the scum team survives makes sense fmpov.

[Titus]

Why do you think you are important and scary enough to 1:1 though?

My role.

[Titus]

@Nancy I have outed everything about my role.

I picked renegade because I wanted to show the protown uses of the role. If I made people compulsive loyal strongmen, eventually scum could only kill themselves.

I am a handsy renegade. I add modifiers to items. My choices are loyal, disloyal, ascetic, macho and healing (protection).

I didn't townread RCE either. Chkflip still had the weird Auro Chronos interactions at the start that RCE did not. I don't think chkflip is obvtown at all. We both know you can get temperamental when suspected. Yet chkflip pushed there anyway. What protown purpose is there when you're obvtown? So people may think he's town but I am not sure. I was hoping to engage him today but that ship has sailed I think.

[Titus]

1. Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)
   No. -

I will say that when I got to the Creating Sign Up thread phase, I should have retroactively changed this.

However, everything I feel is in the Boonskiies level of analyzing, and a mechanical puzzle that can always be figured out, like the majority of my games.

@Titus, you didn’t claim sticky fruit, correct? So you couldn’t have been rolestopped.

Correct. That's why I made the logical deduction. Nom is lying. I can't be certain why but with every other invest failing and me being town, it's the only logical conclusion.

[Titus]

Virus is what we speculated
there must be an explanation somewhere anyway

VOTE: Nom

I was not an eligible target for the Virus. Vecna has no reason to lie on his infect targets. Even if he did, that would explain the guilty on me. I didn't get such a notice.

[Titus]

she never really said if she's scum or not?

Do you ever think scum!Titus or town!Titus would say she is scum?

Only a jester would say that obviously.

I am not scum. Such a question is a waste of time.

[Titus]

?
k/k got hit by a virus and it's plausible it had something to do with the fact he got no result

No.

Night 1, you must target 2 players with a Virus, and your target will receive “You received a Virus.” They will be informed to pass the virus along the next night. All players affected by the Virus will come off as BooneyToon aligned aka scum-aligned. They will not be aware of this, only that they received the virus, and that it must be passed on the next night.

[Titus]

You are grasping at straws and any sort of explanation that gets you out of this.
But the truth of the matter is:
I have a guilty on you, and you die today.

No. It's been proven you're lying.