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VOTE: Team STRQ
PS plz dont vote me mastina, I would'nt be able to defend myself against you!Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Team STRQ, is it public knowledge who any or all of you are?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Maybe the bottom left, but It could easily be just another anime avatar. Seriously, why are there so many anime avatars on Mafiascum?
pedit: ohhhh okay hey boi hows it going?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I'm pretty sure flavour isn't public. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Why are you including the hydra in this?In post 18, mastina wrote:
Realtalk tho;In post 17, eyestott wrote:I'm facepalming so hard right now
You, me, and hydra with Taly/Krazy.
Convince me now not to have an instant three-man strong solid locktown bloc.
Because legit just gonna instantly put that in.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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SorryIn post 19, EspressoPatronum wrote:VOTE: bsg
Hoping we get some flavour for the game itself in addition to roles. The MM2 night flavour was my fave.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Reasons?In post 22, Team STRQ wrote:Why wouldn't mastina include the hydra in this?
VOTE: EspressoPatronum
Why did you choose BSG?
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Would you say I’m confirmed town, Mastina?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Wut
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Team STRQ, how fitting is it that, out of the first three posters, it was our two slots that actually know the rules?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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In post 39, Chronos wrote:
VOTE: EspressoPatronumIn post 24, EspressoPatronum wrote:I was actually going to vote for the hydra, but I saw Ank's profile pic in there + didn't want her to think I have a vendetta against her from TM20.
I picked BSG bcz I don't know what it stands for.
Not a fan of that entrance. VOTE: ChronosIn post 40, Chronos wrote:No way a civilian thinks that much about his entrance and an rvs vote yada yada yeeeeeeGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Moreso the intense confidence you brought to it.In post 43, Chronos wrote:Just for the record, you’re not fine with the entrance itself or with the vote?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Nah, I'm Majiffy
lol jk
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I thought it was a good enough reason for an RVS vote, but your response is more tellingIn post 50, Chronos wrote:
You don't think it's bad?In post 47, eyestott wrote:
Moreso the intense confidence you brought to it.In post 43, Chronos wrote:Just for the record, you’re not fine with the entrance itself or with the vote?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Did you find the avatar then choose the username, or vice versa, Schnauzer?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Titus! Long time no play! Looking forward to playing with you!Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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In post 113, mastina wrote:
I am entirely to blame for that--In post 111, Team STRQ wrote:mastina should I be alarmed that your first list looks more sane than usual ?
I forgot to make one yesterday.
By having accidentally forgotten to make a first list yesterday, and delaying it by a day, I accidentally made it far, far saner than I would otherwise, because I accidentally got too much information.
Speaking of,
VOTE: Adorable.
I'm pretty sure that 112 is just scum.
Wouldn't surprise me if I'm on the right track elsewhere, but legit have Adorable as strongest scumread by FAR right now.Townbloc, activate!
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Don’t mind if I do! UNVOTE:In post 123, alimdia wrote:
As an aside, much prefer this to 20 pages in 1 day but half of them are fluff, makes it really difficult to read.In post 65, EspressoPatronum wrote:And 3 pages isn't even bad for a mini. ~50 posts in about 10 hours.
I assume Tai is part of the hydra since I see no such player? I see a lot of references to Tai later. This kinda just makes things confusing. Could we put (STRQ) after one of the hydra heads when referencing them individually?In post 84, Team STRQ wrote:
VOTE: ChronosIn post 78, Chronos wrote:UNVOTE:
Also not sure how to even handle Tai’s question. They obviously had no thought about it, why should I? And how does that help them read me? The fact that I haven’t reacted to a post about how someone ended in a game? It wasn’t even their very first post if I remember correctly.
Do you guys know if mastina prefers playing town or scum?In post 85, Egix96 wrote:
I did get town feels from this:In post 76, Team STRQ wrote:Egixx's vote feels the most sound out of all of them but I want to know if he's townreading any opener so far.
Although that is with the presumption that the alignment of the role would have had any relevance in her decision.In post 12, mastina wrote:Not gonna lie--I never signed up for this game. I was assigned this game due to listmod error so was quite baffled when I received a role PM for a game that I never signed up for to play. But when I took a look at the game, I went, "...yaknow what, sure, why not?" and decided to stay in it.
What does agency captured means?In post 99, Titus wrote:I have a random theory already, and I'm pretty sure Chronos is town. I just need to filter down to see which one is agency captured because I have four suspects.
I agree on this. See this:In post 115, Adorable wrote:I'm scum hunting and you're going to have to elaborate on the scum read.
Since my vote is already on Adorable, does that mean..... Townbloc, join!In post 121, eyestott wrote:In post 113, mastina wrote:
I am entirely to blame for that--In post 111, Team STRQ wrote:mastina should I be alarmed that your first list looks more sane than usual ?
I forgot to make one yesterday.
By having accidentally forgotten to make a first list yesterday, and delaying it by a day, I accidentally made it far, far saner than I would otherwise, because I accidentally got too much information.
Speaking of,
VOTE: Adorable.
I'm pretty sure that 112 is just scum.
Wouldn't surprise me if I'm on the right track elsewhere, but legit have Adorable as strongest scumread by FAR right now.Townbloc, activate!
VOTE: Adorable
Wait a second... UNVOTE:Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Alimdia. What is your strongest read right now?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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VOTE: Adorable
The response to mastina’s most recent post seems off. Like, a scum flailing in the headlightsGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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It looks like you’re panicking because Mastina is onto something. I don’t see a townie responding to that post with a septuple post.In post 184, Adorable wrote:
Quote them and what does flailing mean?In post 183, eyestott wrote:VOTE: Adorable
The response to mastina’s most recent post seems off. Like, a scum flailing in the headlightsGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I’ve chosen my fluff very carefully and seriously. A full commitment to this game is what I’m thinking of.In post 207, alimdia wrote:
Ok have a quick look at Eyestott's ISO.In post 136, Egix96 wrote:In post 126, eyestott wrote:Alimdia. What is your strongest read right now?
This sequence feels... odd.In post 128, alimdia wrote: prob Chronos.
Now that I ISO'ed you, you're pinging me as scum. VOTE: eyestott
Alim, would you be willing to say what it was that pinged you about Eyes?
A bunch of fluff. Only really serious posts are
post 20 - Says not put hydra in 'townbloc' ... at post 20.....
Btw I hate people saying townblocks because its such a shit way to have random town reads without justification and I would vote anyone that brings that up D1
post 23 - 36 banter or fluff?
post 41 - 47 goes on chronos
tl:dr a lot of fluff, content doesn't lead anywhere.
says 'townblock activate' on adorable
unvotes adorable after I unvote adorable
--- this is where I ISO'ed him up to last night after he asked me ---
I don’t think fluff is really AI is it? I’m not a very skilled player, but I do know exactly what I’m doing at the moment. The fact that you don’t has me a bit suspicious.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Hey Egix, who is your favourite Avenger? Mine’s Captain America.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I promise, all will be answered before the end of the day, so do please bear with me. I have a plan. Do you think you have any idea what I'm trying to do, Tai (or anyone in STRQ, or really anyone in general)? This is a very important question to me. If you do, don't actually say, please. Just need some confirmation.In post 259, Team STRQ wrote:Eyestott, I agree with the assessment that you've been present but not doing much at all. Why isn't this suspicious of you?
In the meantime, here is my favourite vine
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Because I'm asking you nicely? And giving the assurance that I'll reveal all soon enough. Though yes, there's a good chance that you'll have some idea what it is that I'm doing.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Okay, it looks like a proper wagon is developing on me before I could finish doing what I wanted to do. This is my fault; I was so focused on my strategy that I forgot to actually contribute to the game in the mean time.
Full outline coming soon as I’m about to go to the tip, but the tldr is that I am the Role Flavorer (well, Flavourer) and I’ve been seeding this information to specific people to see how they reacted. I didn’t think about how this plan would actually make me me come across scummy and that he information is skewed because of it.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Hey guys, sorry for the inactivity. Life has had a big upheaval thanks to lockdown procedures in Victoria moving to stage 3. Big post incoming!Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Okay, firstly. I'm going to acknowledge that my play thus far has definitely warranted the scumreads. The plan I had was definitely not carried out very well. Nevertheless, I assure you that I am, in fact, town. Here was my thought process:
1:Hmm, what's this? Town Informed Role Flavorer? Oh great, I'm a glorified Vanilla Townie. (Pregame, I can pick each person's role flavour, has to be 50 characters or less.)
- I was quite disappointed at this stage as I was looking forward to a more mechanically interesting role when I signed up for a role madness game.
2: Oh wait, this is a bit of an opportunity!
- I realised two things. Firstly, in a role madness game such as this, a role as mechanically useless as 'role flavorer' is pretty much always going to be a protown role, and hopefully most of the playerbase will recognise this.
Secondly, I can actually use the role flavour for a bit of a plan If I play my cards right (I did not in fact, play my cards right.) The plan is that during early day one, I subtly tell certain players that I know their role flavour by referencing it. By now I've done this to about half of you. Then I see if/how they react.
3: Damnit, Team STRQ
My first post was a reference to mastina's flavour, which by a stroke of bad luck, was copied by Team STRQ. This caused mastina to publically almost-out me at the very start, because not only did it seem like both myself and STRQ knew her flavour, but also mastina hadn't properly read the rules. Hence why 17 happened. Pretty sure that Mastina now thinks that STRQ and I are both the role flavourers, which is why she offers to townbloc with us in 18. My response at 20 makes sense to mastina and myself, but not to STRQ who I haven't clued in at all yet, producing 22In post 12, mastina wrote:Is my flavor public.
Because I swear to god you two are making me think that the flavor the mod sent to me is public.
Fast forward to now, and what have I learned? I have no idea. I don't think this plan of mine actually achieved anything other than confusing everyone and distracting myself from actual scumhunting. So for that, I apologise. If anyone would like the data from my little experiment (as in when I leaked my role to who) because they think I may have been onto something, I'm more than willing to provide the information.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Weird fact about me before I get started: My inactivity on MS seems to coincide with when I'm being ghosted by cute boys. I'll be starting a thread in the Speakeasy so I have somewhere to vent other than an active mafia game
Spoiler: @ gobbledygook Post 367
Spoiler: @Churros Post 373
Spoiler: @Espresso Post 383
Spoiler: @mastina Post 400
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In post 514, alimdia wrote:Er lol I did not notice where you seeded my role to me, mainly cos I didn't understand my flavour reference to begin with.
I must admit, I also didn't read the first post where it said that there is a role flavourer in this game.
Does that mean the role flavourer only has role flavourer tho?
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I did promise I’d be completely honest. I am anIn post 520, alimdia wrote:aka is that the extent of your role.
Since you seem to be hinging on the reasoning that you must be town because your role is 'weak'informedrole flavourer. Im not sure whether the information is completely useless, or if revealing it may bring one of the anti town factions closer to victory somehow.
I would definitely prefer to not have to reveal it now, but if you ask me again, I will tell the truth.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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In post 523, EspressoPatronum wrote:
Thank you. I have some follow-up questions.In post 513, eyestott wrote:post 383, EspressoPatronum"]@eyestott -- what went into your decision for my flavour?Not a whole lot. I'm sorry your flavour is so bland, but I tried make sure that no two players flavour roles were more or less connected than any other pair.
1. Did you struggle with anyone else's flavour?yes, you’re not the only person with slightly lacklustre flavour. I’m not exactly the most creative guy.
2. Regarding my flavour, why did you choose this specific flavour? I understand that you wanted to avoid overlap, but that doesn't actually answer how/why you chose mine.I probably put about 20 minutes work into deciding on everyone’s flavour, and you were one of the last ones. I saw your name standing there, and probably thought something like “ “”if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
3. What hint would you have given to me if your plan wasn't foiled?who said I haven’t given you the hint already?In post 524, EspressoPatronum wrote:
Before you reveal the information itself, can you first reveal the type of information you know? Eg. If you know roles of specific people, say "I know people's roles" before you actually say their roles.In post 521, eyestott wrote:
I did promise I’d be completely honest. I am anIn post 520, alimdia wrote:aka is that the extent of your role.
Since you seem to be hinging on the reasoning that you must be town because your role is 'weak'informedrole flavourer. Im not sure whether the information is completely useless, or if revealing it may bring one of the anti town factions closer to victory somehow.
I would definitely prefer to not have to reveal it now, but if you ask me again, I will tell the truth.
I can do that, yes.
No need to do so yet, but consider doing that before a full information reveal.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Please don’t reveal your exact flavour role.In post 581, pisskop wrote:mine was that 'i just lost the game'
tho who 'i' is and what exactly 'thr game' is is up to some debate.
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Early Day 1 in Rabid’s previous completed town game. I think this is pretty telling. @mastina, do you concur?In post 67, Rabid Schnauzer wrote:
...he must be town, becauseIn post 63, Jake from State Farm wrote:none of his posts make any sense, he's trying too hard, suggested the idea of mass claiming, trying to earn town cred by claiming he ended rvs, and falsely accused me of something. I know it's page 3 but if he has done all that this early,it can only get worse.scum!Rabid (and scum in general) doesn't start the game balls out like that.
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@alimdia (and mono): I am the ROLE flavorer. My abilities are only to do with your role name. I have no idea what’s up with mastinas role.
With reference to Rabid, look at any of his recent town games, but especially that bit I just quoted, where he literally describes his scum playstyle being what he’s doing in this game. Look at his recent games and tell me he’s playing closer to his town game than what he describes as his scum game.
Also, eyesTott plz and thank you. Easy mistake to make.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I agree.In post 602, Egix96 wrote:All the more reason to suspect momo for his question number 2. I find it quite hard to believe that he missed your claim...
I’ve just realised. Keeping the knowledge I know to myself is likely to bring harm than revealing it right now. The informed part of my role tells me this: That someone in the game has a specific role. I will use a synonym of the exact role name to prevent fake claims. The role in question is called the flavour finder.
Now, here’s my theory. There’s a good chance it’s wrong, as now you all know as much as I do.
I reckon there’s a good chance this flavour finder is a mafia role, and that there’s may be some death note-esque shenanigans related to people’s flavour.
Otherwise, what the heck would the point be of a role that investigates someone to find out something that is completely NAI?
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Dude, ask literally anyone else and they’ll back me up.In post 619, momo wrote:
I don't know if this is because you forgot something or because of malicious intent, but this is a blatant lie. I know this because I didn't get flavor for my role name. I got a role PM as would be expected in any game. I received a flavor message the next day brought to my by the role flavorer. This could be mod error in waiting a day, or it could be that you are lying. Which is it?In post 600, eyestott wrote:@alimdia (and mono): I am the ROLE flavorer. My abilities are only to do with your role name.
Step one: pregame, everyone receives their role pm, minus flavour. (Including myself)
Step two: I choose everyone’s flavour.
Step three: just before day 1 starts, everyone’s including myself, receives a second pm telling them their assigned role flavour.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Eyestott*In post 702, alimdia wrote:I back eyescott up in that my role PM and flavour are separate PMs. But eyescott, you say theres a antitown flavour related person and you're spilling people's flavour hints evverywhere?
:p
I’m saying there’s definitely a role flavour investigative role in the game. I’m theorising that they’re antitown.
And note, I’ve never actually revealed what anyone’s flavour is.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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To prove my role: Be prepared for Ygritte.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Inb4 he’s actually a paranoid gun owner or reflexive rolestopper
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1: Yes, that is correct.In post 761, EspressoPatronum wrote:In post 756, TemporalLich wrote:Rabid Schnauzer has been lynched! He wasYou Know Nothing, John Sno-oh-oh-oh-oh, Town 1-Shot Neighborizer
Two questions forIn post 758, TemporalLich wrote:mastina has died during the night. She wasPlz Don't Scumread Me, I Swear I'm Town, Mastina!, Town Moonlight Dancer
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Titus has been flavor revealed! Her flavor is Look At All Those Chickens.eyestott
1. Am I correct that RS+mastina's flavour is the underlined portion of their flip?
2. What type of information do you know?
Thus far, I am struggling to see how any of your provided flavour is useful to us.
2: I mentioned it yesterday. I had prior knowledge of the existence of the role that revealed Titus' role last night. I only knew the name of the role, not how it worked.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Unless there's another layer to the role that outed Titus last night, I think It may be another role that's essentially Vanilla (like Mastina and myself). Not necessarily town or mafia.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I need to look through Egix' posts and the cases against him, which I seem to have missed! Merry Easter and a happy Quarantine to you all!Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Woah crap, had no idea D2 end was so close. I'm gonna reread this game tonight, post my thoughts.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I’m going to sleep in the next few hours, I haven’t yet looked at the pisskop case, but I doubt that he will have claimed before I go to sleep. Once I’ve looked at the case, if I decided that I’ll join, would someone be able to invite so I can put my vote on, so that they can hammer or leave it after he claims? I don’t know if that makes sense hahahaGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I’m where, Eve? The neighborhood? Has it been revealed who is in the neighborhood?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I don’t like the pisskop vote. I’d much rather be voting momoGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I’m not in a neighborhood...Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Gobble, Eve, is this a policy lynch on the grounds of inactivity?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Yeah, okay. He hasn’t committed to this game at all
But does that make it better to kill him than to no lunch?
I don’t really see the scummy toneGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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If we can’t come to a reasonable conclusion at the end of the day. It’s probably much more of a F2F mafia thing than the meta of this site, as I’m becoming aware of while I get back into mafia.In post 984, Churros wrote:
why would we ever no lynch?In post 980, eyestott wrote:But does that make it better to kill him than to no lunch?
Anyway, you said you would rather vote momo instead of pisskop, but you've voted no one yet? What's up?
That’s a very good question, and one I don’t have a logical answer for. Sorry! But I don’t want to make up a logical answer for your question. I’m struggling with mafia at the moment, I just can’t handle being on ANOTHER mislynch. So my mentality for today is to only vote for someone when I’m confident that they’re scum.
P-edit: I haven’t put enough time into today to really be able to make a case on momo.
And it’s 12:30am now. I should sleep.Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I suppose you’re right. I would be happy if somehow people moved over to momo in the next few hours and lynched them instead. VOTE: momo
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Woah, we’re actually doing this! SweeetGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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Don’t feel bad.
I spent most of every day since Wednesday a week and a bit ago, preparing to run a Pathfinder Campaign which started tonight. (And got so much interest from friends I have a second group starting the same campaign tomorrow night), so everyone has busy times. Let’s all 3 try to be more active during D3, eh?Get to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647- eyestott
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I’m sorry y’all
VOTE: PisskopGet to know a Me! http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=60647 - eyestott
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