Micro 930: Neon Mafia (Game over!)

[Looker]

Alduskkel, Luca Blight, Heaven

VOTE: Alduskkel

[Looker]

VOTE: Luca Blight

@skitter30: I have no idea.

[Looker]

We need more votes on Luca Blight; maybe then we can get him involved.

[Looker]

why luca in particular
scared of him?

Are you trying to insult me?

VOTE: Luca Blight

@skitter30: I have no idea.

ok so why'd you list those players in that post then?

Multiple games, wanna make sure no one slips through the cracks. They hadn't posted or voted.

Oh no, people voting me whatever shall I do

Vote Luca

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• @Luca: Your vote. Where is your vote?

[Looker]

Here it is.

VOTE: Looker

How original

Payback's a VOTE: nomnomnom

But, seriously, though
S{Quag | Heaven/Nom | Aldus/Skitter/Menal | Captain/Luca}T

[Looker]

You were literally scum both times and you played just like this. All that's left is for you to get pissed and replace out. Then I'll know for sure you're scum.

[Looker]

I replaced out of that game because you insulted me personally and I am not dealing with personal insults in mafia games
my tone is NAI and anyone that has played with me for a significant amount of time knows this
you townread me in our last micro so clearly you do not have a correct grasp of my town and scumgame

• I didn't insult you: I said you come off as scum because of your tone. You're deflecting.
  
• But I lynched you the first time, so shouldn't that cancel out?

I feel insulted that you'd imply that I would replace out as scum just because I am scumread because I have plenty of examples of the contrary
you are not hot shit, every single game you've played with me you've placed your vote on me early on d1 because of stuff that isn't even game related and you have the nerve to say you know how I am and what kind of game I play
educate yourself and read some of my past games, thank you

• You have a track record with sarcasm
  
• "Every single game" is exaggerative. I voted you one game at start and you were scum in it. I didn't even vote you this game.
  
• Researching you isn't "educational", nom

like the worst in all this is that you're probably town considering this is what you do every single game and you seem to have a massive ego that seems attached to your towngame

Again, exaggerative. Also, ego?

I have a little theory you're ultra mad from that micro still and this is why you're voting me here lmao

I assume these spam posts are because you stewed over this? I have to conclude that this is theater because this is a game. You weaving this inauthentic narrative is a strategy. We both know you're nowhere near important enough to be mad over. Especially "ultra" mad, whatever that is.

spilling mad truth sorry

Hilarious. Especially considering you're literally mad.

i'm sorry i'll try really hard to catch up before i go to sleep but i'm not sure i'll be able to

BoP incoming

Payback's a VOTE: nomnomnom

S {Quag | Heaven/Nom | Aldus/Skitter/Menal | Captain/Luca}T

you have me as your strongest scum read yet you vote for noms? explain that for me

No one is scum alone. Besides, with D1's track record, it'd probably stay a vanity wagon.

looker's vote on noms feels more like it's driven by personal shit instead of actual reasons why they think noms is scum.

Are you purposely feeding into her narrative? It's expected for Nom to insult me, but not really you.

Lynch Nom -> Quags.

I like this. Would prefer Quag first, but they're my two best bets.

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• @Menalque: His wagons make it to L-1/L-2

Where is VOTE: Heaven?

[Looker]

Furret explain to me how I am pocketing you in our hood when you were the one that initiated the conversation there

There's a hood?

hi i think i will have some time this afternoon

Recently I've started to realize that a lot of my null reads in mafia games ended up being scum and that I should start scumhunting the same way I play cop or vig
if I was cop or vig I would either check Quag or Ald here, so maybe I should vote there

Def Quag

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Oh, am I in this game?

[Looker]

Well, your vote didn’t last very long...

[Looker]

I find it virtually impossible to believe anything. With the end result, scum could just as easily be Luca and nom. Besides, until we have a flip, most of this is fluff and bullshit anyway. You feed into your own paranoia while the actual scum just sit and watch. It's mildly irritating.

[Looker]

Maybe I'm giving Luca too much credit, but, you said yourself I should be afraid of him

why luca in particular
scared of him?

[Looker]

That was sarcasm again. Don't get pissed.

[Looker]

okay but you're not even trying to push me or question my stances. like it's not really a vanity when we still have time for other wagons to form. so if you think i'm scum, then you should be pushing me or trying to start a wagon on me, especially when others have expressed concerns about me.

i wasn't insulting you but okay. my point on your noms vote still stands.

Your suggestions are suggestions. I'm not going to fake some fabricated conviction to get others to vote you. This is a gambling game and I'm gambling.

VOTE: Luca Blight

[Looker]

wait where did the quag scumread come from?
why are you scumreading heaven, i think the slot is townie for him

and new post now

I felt like people were ignoring him but the wagons he jumped on always made it to L-1/L-2 (Heaven, Luca). I don't remember Heaven; you've been gone for a while. I probably thought he was lurking on purpose.

okay but you're not even trying to push me or question my stances. like it's not really a vanity when we still have time for other wagons to form. so if you think i'm scum, then you should be pushing me or trying to start a wagon on me, especially when others have expressed concerns about me.

i wasn't insulting you but okay. my point on your noms vote still stands.

Your suggestions are suggestions. I'm not going to fake some fabricated conviction to get others to vote you. This is a gambling game and I'm gambling.

VOTE: Luca Blight

what? why would you have to fabricate convictions when i'm supposedly your

top scumread

? like surely you must have reasons for that. i feel like you'd be trying a little harder to lynch me if you actually believed that i was scum.

VOTE: looker

Just because you bold something doesn't mean it's important, and I could care less how you feel when it comes to my playstyle. I play with my flip in mind, so make sure this little pseudo-OMGUS is worth it. This is either unfounded confidence (like most of D1), or scum strategy.

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• @Alduskkel: How offensive. Just what does being "disgusting" entail?

[Looker]

TIME TO UNLEASH THE ULTIMATE WEAPON

THE GUN THAT FIRES FURRETS

FOR SKITTER

Obviously I’m gonna focus more on explaining my scumread than my townreads.

Why would not voting you give you pings when some players have barely posted? I mean yeah, I could have voted you, but Is it not also reasonable to wait until I have a read on everyone?

My townlean on Luca that I forgot to mention is gone

hey chemist

i know you're still getting caught up but

luca claimed macho neapolitan. also noms and furret are in a hood

.

FOR GEORGEBAILEY

I’m definitely leaning town on Looker based on forthright nature of her posting.

It could be ballsy scum, but it’s completely at odds with the scum meta I have on her.

What’s the scum meta you have on her?

My pronoun is "Pfffttttttt"

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• @GeorgeBailey: Any questions? Do you feel Luca Blight is scum?
  
• ALSO: My last game with Chemist, he claimed Doctor. He was a doctor - a scum doctor. Mods get to be the 10th player in these micros and like to fuck with you.
  
• @Chem: It's because I quoted Quag's picture, wasn't it?

[Looker]

• @GB: I don't trust it or the way people treat it. "Disingenuous" is subjective, though.
  
• @Luca: It was moreso that I townread Mena
  
• @Furret: Give them time and they flesh out/solidify like concrete

VOTE: Alduskkel

[Looker]

Oh Jesus, clerical error

VOTE: Quagsire

[Looker]

Yeah, I don't townread nom enough for that play

[Looker]

Because there's a world where what quag is posting comes from town
I can't say the same for Ald, it's all vague minimal posting, way more chances this comes from scum than town

This is NAI, but it's posts like these that make it hard for me to get into D1. It's all subjective. What's that supposed to mean, "there's a world where..."? Has he avoided answering pointed questions you've asked him or do you just not like the way he plays/his posting style?

this is why i feel distrustful of the quags wagon in the first place
this whole thing makes me feel there's scum involvement in there and if there's one person in this whole thing that does that, it's skitt
do you get what I'm saying here? I feel like I'm getting played

Would you find it ironic or suspicious that the Quagsire wagon dissolved so rapidly in favor of your own?

I remember the time when I used to have quotes of what people said about me in their sigs

Me, too, but I had to remove the profanity and racial slurs, so it just ended up blank.

looker's play still sucks

I beg your pardon? Can you explain why objectively and without bias?

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• Are nom and quag partners?

[Looker]

looker's play still sucks

I beg your pardon? Can you explain why objectively and without bias?

i have explained this, you're not pushing your scumreads, you're making a bunch of random votes that don't actually reflect how you feel (or claim to feel)

like it's not even about the fact that you scumread me, it's about how you play around your scumreads that's concerning.

• I don't get it. I placed my vote. What sense would it make to silence everyone else's opinions by trying to dominate them with my own? What do you expect from "push"?
  
• Subjective, but in which post did I vote randomly?
  • Also, in which post did I vote contrarily to how I feel? (Or how I have "claimed" to feel?)
• It sounds like you're targeting me for not tunneling. Also, please define "play around" - are you saying that I don't talk to the people I find suspicious?

How did this happen lol

Numbers, but I thought I townread Nom more than I did

the fact that the majority of players have said that they think quag/me are partners on d1 without any kind of flip is extremely concerning

Having scumreads is concerning, not having scumreads is concerning - I just keep getting called concerning. So many opinions about how other people should be playing this game.

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• If Aldus is talking to others to reconcile his scumread of me, why isn't Quag calling him out for "playing around his scumread"?

VOTE: nomnomnom

[Looker]

Where is Chemist

[Looker]

Looker this wagon on me is literally because I refuse to vote quags
Literally 3 people on my wagon have stated they would rather get Quags yet I am at L-1 what the fuck is this shit!!!!!!!!!!
I am literally mindfucked by this gamestate what the hell guys

Do you take it as an affront to your competence as a player? Because you shouldn't. I probably think you're more manipulative than you are, but we'll see.

Mister Mechtalk

Is this Alisae/Furret?

Where is Chemist

E-"learning"

That's adorable.

nom's posting since being put at L-1 is super towny and it's basically locked in my prior townread

After her rant in our first mini, nom is the reason my signature currently is what it is. She's like if AtE had a profile.

You can’t lynch me noms
You don’t have the votes

Wow, so heartless

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• I think the bad guy is still Quag

[Looker]

I
Claim
Bodyguard

No CC from me

VOTE: Aldus

Gonna park that there overnight and reevaluate in the morning

Chemist vote noms then

Maybe tomorrow morning I’m gonna sleep

VOTE: Alduskkel

Am I being hypocritical? Maybe. But I give myself a pass because I know I'm town.

I don't.

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• The Furret is so aggressive. Is this how you guys relieve your stress?

[Looker]

• I spared Chem because Heaven voted Nom earlier on. However, it does look like Chem stalled/delayed Nom's lynch.
  • ALSO! Didn't I tell you that Nom was the frickin' QUEEN of AtE?!? I was getting heart palpitations! Anyway...

VOTE: Quagsire

I have some other suspects, but we'll see what they produce beforehand.

[Looker]

Are Amrun and skitter30 the same person?

Also: Just because you don't understand someone, does that make them scum? Can I lynch someone solely because they don't play the way I like?

[Looker]

So he unvoted when the wagon got too hot? Sounds good to me.

VOTE: Looker

It depends on who was on it. If someone I suspect hops on a wagon I'm on, I leave it. My lynches are typically a compromise of townreads.

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• @Furretlisae
  • How is a townread TMI? At what point does it just become paranoia on your part? Or theater?
• Also, again: My reads are a summation of everyone's actions - the entire gamestate; not just some scumtells you picked up from the wiki.
  • I sometimes vote less vocal players so that they have to be readable in subsequent days. Heaven was probably lurking. Also, I think Luca claimed somewhere in there. Something happened to change my view of that wagon.

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

[Looker]

I find it hard to believe you can come to the conclusion that I am a top tier townread that early

Don't get ahead of yourself, Furret - there's nothing top tier about you (in that regard). Consider my readlists more POE lists. At that point in the game, flipping you or Luca wasn't worth the likelihood of either of you being town.

[Looker]

Interesting tactic, though, if you're scum - say my townread of you is TMI when you're actually scum. That would be impressive.

[Looker]

@Quag: Because she was boring and only wanted to lynch the people I wanted to lynch

[Looker]

hi

VOTE: looker

Hello

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• @GB: I checked the wiki to see if PoE meant something beyond what I thought it was - your answer is no. Also, why does anything mean anything? From my experience, this behavior had the highest probability of being town.

VOTE: Alduskkel

[Looker]

can someone please explain what looker is doing this game

Playing. Having fun. Finding scum. Pick one.

Ugh, why did Looker and George both have to go and start acting scummy to make things complicated?

Weren't you already scum reading Looker?

the scumread lessened after nom flipped scum

right now I'm just super confused by looker's alien thought processes

I wasn't voting nom, though; I was voting you.

The Chemist vote worries me the most I guess.

@Chemist why Looker?

sheeping captain basically

Huh.

Interesting tactic, though, if you're scum - say my townread of you is TMI when you're actually scum. That would be impressive.

you know that tmi implies that the person who's tmi'ing is scum right? because only scum knows everyone's alignments? uninformed majority vs. informed minority etc. etc.

What are you saying?

@Quag: Because she was boring and only wanted to lynch the people I wanted to lynch

why is this a reason to townread someone?

Because town minds think alike?

i agree, but i'm kind of wondering if that vote is ~too~ blatantly opportunistic to come from scum.

That sounds like a bad precedent to set.

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• @Skitter30: I'm sure you and Furret can "figure it out"
  
• @GB: Who said that either Furret or I sheeped? Also, does that mean you scumread Chemist?

VOTE: Quagsire L-1
S{Quag/Aldu | Chem | Skitter | GB | Furret}T

[Looker]

I trust captain's read on the two more than my own

The Captain sure is important

why do you care more about what I think than I do

It's because it's suspicious.

i think at this point i trust furret's and skitter's reads more than i trust my own.

I'm seeing a trend here.

is this where I self-hammer to deny you the satisfaction

Too late.

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• @GB:
  • You "insinuated" incorrectly.
  • I need a more packaged way to express my willingness-to-lynch list

VOTE: Chemist1422

[Looker]

Either Looker or Quag made that kill, since Furret said this EOD:

skitter30
Alduskkel
GeorgeBailey
Quagsire
Looker
VOTE: Chemist1422

WIFOM

VOTE: Alduskkel

[Looker]

WIFOM isn't the cause; it's the side effect. Furret was killed because she claimed bodyguard. Aldus said he dropped a SR of me when nom flipped scum, but I wasn't voting nom; I was voting Aldus. I would think that would make him more suspicious of me since I wasn't on her wagon. I don't trust any of you to be honest.

[Looker]

probably need to reread at some point

wow dead game

guess i'll get started on that reread

We were really just waiting for you.

sighhh

i know skitter is vla but still she's the only one i can confidently say is town right now so i need to know where her head is at

doing this in the meantime

VOTE: alduskkel

• Why is skitter town?
  
• Why would skitter's thoughts override your own?
  
• If you don't think Alduskkel is scum, why would you vote him?

I'm not understanding the pro-townness of this "Follow the Skitter" approach

ehh, I wouldn't say Ald is scum, sorry Quag.

VOTE: Quagsire

Why is Skitter town?

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VOTE: Quagsire

[Looker]

which is the second time that quag has casually put someone at L-1

the first time being luca

I vote with the intention to lynch, so that's not really a scumtell for me. I don't really stall.

and putting me at L-1 when you also want to hear from skitter is absurd because if someone hammers me then skitter is basically guaranteed to get nightkilled

By saying "guaranteed", are you confirming that skitter is town?

I'm sharing sentiments on Ald, where it's literally just sorting between the two. I'm leaning on Quag right now. But yeah, I want Skitters opinion on the game plan before moving forward.

Do you think that both you and skitter make it to lylo?

I feel worse about Quag's, but Looker's is also kinda scummy because I don't see why they'd swap from a vote on me to a vote on Quag so quickly.

It's because skitter's alignment wins regardless. If she's scum, she wins lylo; if she's town, she wins lylo or gets NK'd and whoever's left will be easily sorted (courtesy of yours truly).

Also, Looker assumes Quag thinks I'm town, but I have no idea where Looker got that impression.

I got it from the "sighhh" and usage of "meantime". It lacks conviction and expresses resignation in a way that relinquishes accountability.

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VOTE: Alduskkel

[Looker]

By saying "guaranteed", are you confirming that skitter is town?

I'm saying I'll eat my hat if skitter is scum.

Why do you keep changing your vote?

• I'll hold you to that if she is.
  
• Either you or Quag die today and the other one dies tomorrow - this game's actually over. Also, I want the changes shown in my voting history just in case there's any analysis done on my reads after the fact.

anyway, looker, who's

scummier

to you, me or quag?

You are. These are my confidence levels:

• 42% confident Alduskkel is scum
  
• 30% confident Quagsire is scum
  
• 17% confident GeorgeBailey is scum
  
• 11% confident Skitter30 is scum

Yeah, I a lot of people have been saying they noticed it, but others say it's been around of ages. So idk.

And you know what, I think you're right about Quag

VOTE: Quagsire

The only way I'll vote GeorgeBailey is if skitter votes him.

Or are you looking for a scumslip

I'm not accustomed to universal townreads, so I assumed someone was just going with the flow to avoid opening a can of worms and were just going to NK her afterward.

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• @GeorgeBailey: Let me help you out, because I'm sensing some confusion. I'm willing to sheep your vote on anyone until skitter places one. That's why I keep shifting my vote. So, if you want to keep anyone from L-1, either vote me or don't vote at all. In that case, though, I'll default to my highest scumread, which is Alduskkel.

VOTE: Quagsire

[Looker]

I see that nothing has changed.

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Can you tell me briefly why you scumread Ald over Quag?

Why does it have to be brief? We clearly have all the time in the world. Alduskkel voteparked on Heaven while nom's wagon rode the wave, and I feel he was expecting to capitalize on my tunneling of Quagsire. The second part could be said of any of you, though. I also feel nom could've been distancing because she voted him the most.

unless skitter wants to come in here and drop the take of the century.

Even if she did, though...I mean...come on....

Fair, i'm pretty sure we both know she'd be the NK.

Over me? But I'm the most townie.

the 'sighh' was because no one was posting and this game is boring and no one wants to lynch aldus despite the bad associations with noms

Hey, that's not my fault, man; I'm not the one trying to inspect skitter's colon with my skull.

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• @skitter: I don't get it. Kill one of us today and the other one tomorrow; what's the hold up?
  • If you're as good as they say you are, then you've already won. And that's whether you were bussing nom or not.
    
  • As far as articulation, I did. I think. But if I didn't I don't care. Barring GB scum, this game is over.

[Looker]

Did you see Chemist's vote there as well?

[Looker]

Exactly. Chemist voted and then I voted because I trusted him.

[Looker]

also today is probably massclaim day i think

why today?

Because she's scum

And what do you mean by today is massclaim day? I think everyone than can claim, has.

1-shot Ascetic PGO Treestump Goon
Two of those are correct

[Looker]

VOTE: Alduskkel

GG, skitter

On a side note: I'd hate to be you if you're town. Decisions, decisions.

Also, on another side note: What was the basis of killing GeorgeBailey? To create WIFOM and make me vote skitter? Or to create WIFOM/exploit the fact that I called skitter scum? I'm curious.

[Looker]

Live by the "Follow the Skitter", die by the "Follow the Skitter"

[Looker]

There was no way I was convincing those three that skitter was scum. Good bus. Nom was great, too, as stressful as her play was.

[Looker]

oof gg

I was actually planning on double-checking skitter if skitter were still alive Day 4 but obviously I never got the chance
Of course to win I would have not only had to convince myself that skitter was scummier than looker but also convince looker that skitter was scummier than me so eh that probably would have never happened

chemist lynch was bad and both PRs claiming D1 was bad

skitter and nom are scary as scum

The hilarious part was that, if you had've voted skitter, I would've hammered her. The fact that you made 4 posts with no vote made me more suspicious of you. Skitter and Amrun are consistently inherently townread.

[Looker]

I'm obsessed with nom