Mini 2123: Greatest Idea IX - Game Over

Pink Ball · Post Post #264 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:08 am

Sup fuckos

Pink Ball · Post Post #280 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:20 am

CSF is most likely scum

Pink Ball · Post Post #283 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:23 am

In post 282, Kerset wrote:CSF day 1 was really concerning.

Why

Pink Ball · Post Post #298 (isolation #3) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:39 am

TL you're lying

Pink Ball · Post Post #299 (isolation #4) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:40 am

VOTE: TemporalLich

Pink Ball · Post Post #302 (isolation #5) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:42 am

#fakewatcher

I roleblocked CSF

Pink Ball · Post Post #307 (isolation #6) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:45 am

That's why I'm voting TL

Pink Ball · Post Post #315 (isolation #7) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:49 am

Pink Ball · Post Post #318 (isolation #8) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:51 am

In post 314, Kerset wrote:tbh strongman is a thing here

Yeah this is my only concern, but how TL claimed makes me believe it's a lie rather than CSF being strongman.

Then again, I targeted CSF because she was my biggest scumread.

What to do, what to do.

Pink Ball · Post Post #320 (isolation #9) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:52 am

In post 316, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 313, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 310, TemporalLich wrote:Pink Ball likely isn't town regardless
Why do you say this?
It's called a SR and I think PB could be a fake as well but a scum RB is a high value target so PB is bad regardless of the truth of his CC

Why the fuck would I be fakeclaiming, makes no fucking sense.

Sure, we lynch you and then both me and my partner get lynched/vigged. Nice play PB.

Pink Ball · Post Post #328 (isolation #10) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:59 am

Doubling down, TL's reaction is scummy as fuck. Let's do it

Pink Ball · Post Post #333 (isolation #11) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:05 am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dude has a guilty and doesn't vote it!!

Pink Ball · Post Post #342 (isolation #12) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:21 am

"WIFOM mess" in a greatest idea mafia is common. You are lying, that's the only thing we need to know.

Pink Ball · Post Post #345 (isolation #13) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:22 am

Guy above me is probably scum too

Pink Ball · Post Post #347 (isolation #14) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:26 am

Sorry, gal above me*

Changing subject instead of taking a stance. TL's partner

Pink Ball · Post Post #352 (isolation #15) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:32 am

In post 349, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 348, SirCakez wrote:TL is flailing scum
Why couldn't he be watcher like he claimed?

Because he claimed watching CSF and CSF was roleblocked

Pink Ball · Post Post #357 (isolation #16) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:58 am

In post 353, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 352, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 349, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 348, SirCakez wrote:TL is flailing scum
Why couldn't he be watcher like he claimed?
Because he claimed watching CSF and CSF was roleblocked
Apologies, but he claimed to have watched Yshtola Rhul and saw Cat Scratch Fever visiting her.

Potato potato

Pink Ball · Post Post #361 (isolation #17) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:11 am

Yeah yeah I was talking like TL followed CSF, brain fart

Pink Ball · Post Post #374 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:35 am

People who know me knows that I'm telling the truth 'cause my scumgame is superb and claiming in my third post is not giving myself space to develop as a whole.

As Suji says, you either think TL lied (which is the most likely scenario) or that CSF is a strongman who was roleblocked AND caught targeting one of the dead town. Too much going on in that alternative; go for the easy one and vote TL.

Pink Ball · Post Post #375 (isolation #19) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:36 am

I fucking love paranoia 'cause it's fun, but it usually doesn't work

Pink Ball · Post Post #379 (isolation #20) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:40 pm

Yes, and it only got targeted by one player. In a greatest idea game. And that one target was roleblocked. So it has to be a strongman.

Seems like a lot of assumptions and WIFOM; calling me out and voting me because I was creating WIFOM when you thought you had a guilty was peak scummery.

We can assume two things: one, TL thought he could get away with a fake guilty after lynching town!CSF by saying that the scumteam probably has a ninja; or two, the scumteam is big enough to make a risky move and win it on night two.

Since Micc actually tries to balance this games by creating three possible setups and having a flipped survivor and 3 kills on a same night... I'd say the scumteam is probably not that big, and lynching both TL and fake!RC is a good start to at least have a good chance of winning this.

So can we get those two remaining votes on TL, please?

Pink Ball · Post Post #381 (isolation #21) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:46 pm

GlowingOvineChimes

Pink Ball · Post Post #383 (isolation #22) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:47 pm

I was already considering your vote there, I was appealing for the other four

Pink Ball · Post Post #385 (isolation #23) » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:51 pm

You absolutely are

Pink Ball · Post Post #392 (isolation #24) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:22 am

Oooooooh that's a cool paranoia theory. I like that Kerset

Pink Ball · Post Post #396 (isolation #25) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:38 am

It's between TL and CSF but whatever

Pink Ball · Post Post #401 (isolation #26) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:04 am

In post 398, SirCakez wrote:
In post 396, Pink Ball wrote:It's between TL and CSF but whatever
Your result contradicts TL so it's you vs him???
If TL is town then both CSF and you are scum

No. CSF could be strongman. It's between them

Pink Ball · Post Post #402 (isolation #27) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:04 am

Oh thanks Suji

Pink Ball · Post Post #403 (isolation #28) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:06 am

It's so nice to have a townread. Both Suji and CSF are good town targets for scum so I'll try to protect them since it will be my last night

Pink Ball · Post Post #414 (isolation #29) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:57 am

Classic paranoia: you catch scum early in the day, but you want to over extend and giving scum space to do their thing.

Fucking hammer, even TL dropped off 'cause he has given enough info (one confscum, one obvscum, two conf not partners and one obvtown)

Pink Ball · Post Post #431 (isolation #30) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:33 am

In post 421, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 414, Pink Ball wrote:Classic paranoia: you catch scum early in the day, but you want to over extend and giving scum space to do their thing.

Fucking hammer, even TL dropped off 'cause he has given enough info (one confscum, one obvscum, two conf not partners and one obvtown)
just to make sure we're on the same page, who are these people?

Confscum is TL, obvscum ovine, conf not partners CSF and me, obvtown Suji

Pink Ball · Post Post #433 (isolation #31) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:36 am

TL take the L and shut it

Pink Ball · Post Post #435 (isolation #32) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:38 am

But it was a gift from me

Pink Ball · Post Post #442 (isolation #33) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:25 am

In post 439, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:Pinkball, it's strange to me that you think I'm obvscum when I'm clearly concerned about mislynches and not ending the day early

I think your paranoia is fake and I called you obvscum before you started being paranoid

Pink Ball · Post Post #443 (isolation #34) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:26 am

In post 440, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 437, TemporalLich wrote:No Action is a convenient fakeclaim
This does seem unlikely in a role madness game

CSF- why did you pick a role that has no night action or conversely why did you not use a night action N1? In this game, you are so likely to be nked N1 that I would think you would want to use your ability

Please elaborate

Don't answer this, they are trying to get more info.

Pink Ball · Post Post #449 (isolation #35) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:36 am

I actually agree with Kerset about CSG, that's why I roleblocked her. But you're closing your eyes and going "neener neener" if you still think CSF is scum and TL is town.

Pink Ball · Post Post #451 (isolation #36) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:12 am

Pink Ball · Post Post #453 (isolation #37) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:51 am

Pink Ball · Post Post #455 (isolation #38) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:09 am

Could you, for PB's sake, end this day?

Pink Ball · Post Post #462 (isolation #39) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:55 pm

C'mon fuckos do me a solid and hammer, I'm going to Chicago now and would be lovely to get to Night 2 while I'm flying

Pink Ball · Post Post #464 (isolation #40) » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:06 pm

I'll try. Going to see my gf and evaluate if she should come back to Chile

Pink Ball · Post Post #475 (isolation #41) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:41 pm

I roleblocked UT lol

Pink Ball · Post Post #484 (isolation #42) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:46 pm

In post 477, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:Did you decide to take your gf back to Chile with you?

Thanks for asking

we're trying to get back tomorrow, we already have the tickets but things are changing really fast and it could be cancelled.

I'll probably be busy until I'm back

Pink Ball · Post Post #485 (isolation #43) » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:50 pm

In post 476, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:Nice job, PB! What made you choose her?

UT implicitly revealed he was the one who treestumped Titus and either 1. I'd rather not let him do that again or 2. I personally believed it was scummy for him to admit he fucked up about targeting Titus 'cause it's a forced way to look townie.

Pink Ball · Post Post #495 (isolation #44) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:54 am

In post 491, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 403, Pink Ball wrote:It's so nice to have a townread. Both Suji and CSF are good town targets for scum so I'll try to protect them since it will be my last night

In post 475, Pink Ball wrote:I roleblocked UT lol
Why did you change your mind?

I didn't. I roleblocked the dude I thought had a killing action

Pink Ball · Post Post #498 (isolation #45) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:32 am

What we're going to do is fullclaim, and I'll judge you on how good you solve the setup EP.

All three cards, which one was used as alignment, as role and discarded.

CSF you start.

Pink Ball · Post Post #508 (isolation #46) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:26 am

Exactly why I asked CSF to claim first lol when I sent Micc my target I said "I'm pretty sure I'm going to die tonight and won't be able to push CSF who I'm pretty sure is scum too"

Pink Ball · Post Post #529 (isolation #47) » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:08 pm

Let's keep going the massclaim. I want to see why is a shot missing.

Pink Ball · Post Post #536 (isolation #48) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:47 am

Nice, that would confirm your role too.

Pink Ball · Post Post #538 (isolation #49) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:59 am

I don't know. Is scum multitasking this game?

Pink Ball · Post Post #540 (isolation #50) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:10 am

Then I probably blocked both UT's actions and CSF could go either way. That would confirm my theory that you're scum and not a vig, baby seal

Pink Ball · Post Post #544 (isolation #51) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:54 am

Crumbling vig as scum/SK at the begining of the game is not something outside anyone's scumrange.

@Kerset are you sure that was the input to shoot during the day? Or is Micc being lazy?

Pink Ball · Post Post #546 (isolation #52) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:21 am

Oh shit.

Happy birthday Micc!!

Pink Ball · Post Post #550 (isolation #53) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:46 am

Perfect, so CSF is a wolf and the missing shot could be mafia being only TL?

Pink Ball · Post Post #552 (isolation #54) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:49 am

That's great. If game hasn't ended Id suggest lynching the baby seal and if THAT doesn't ends the game then at least it becomes nightless allegedly and we let EP target everyone

Pink Ball · Post Post #569 (isolation #55) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:56 pm

In post 565, Sujimichi wrote:
In post 552, Pink Ball wrote:That's great. If game hasn't ended Id suggest lynching the baby seal and if THAT doesn't ends the game then at least it becomes nightless allegedly and we let EP target everyone
How does the game become nightless?

There was only one kill last night, claimed by the baby seal.

We could also no lynch today, I roleblock baby seal and let the investigators get more info. I trust EP; he could tell us if someone is lying about their roles.

Pink Ball · Post Post #571 (isolation #56) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:58 pm

People dead before Pink Ball: 3 town and 1 survivor
People dead after Pink Ball: 1 mafia and 2 wolves

Let's keep it going guys I want a clean sheet for once

Pink Ball · Post Post #573 (isolation #57) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:59 pm

In post 570, Sujimichi wrote:Could there not have been another unclaimed shot at the same target?

Mafia shooting UT? That would be stupid, but yeah sure they could have

Pink Ball · Post Post #574 (isolation #58) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:00 pm

Can I get a summary on claims please? I didn't pay much attention since I was getting back to Chile (we did it by the way!! Got extremely lucky)

Pink Ball · Post Post #584 (isolation #59) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:56 pm

Pink Ball · Post Post #585 (isolation #60) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:57 pm

That's the most survivalistic move I have ever seen in this site.

I like it, good job.

Pink Ball · Post Post #588 (isolation #61) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:48 pm

Good catch

Pink Ball · Post Post #591 (isolation #62) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:35 pm

Yeah for me it's between Ovine and EP basically

Pink Ball · Post Post #593 (isolation #63) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:38 pm

I'd say the best course of action is no lynching today and asking Ovine to shoot EP; if EP flips town, we lynch her. But I'm a little impatient and I'd rather lynch Ovine today 'cause I think she's the remaining scum. At least PT called CSF out so he got that going for him.

VOTE: GlowingOvineChimes

Pink Ball · Post Post #602 (isolation #64) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:23 pm

I knoooooowwwwww I really know we should go for the safe game but that's so not funnnnn and Ovine is being soooooo survivalisticcccc I just want to be right and lynch herrrrrrr

Pink Ball · Post Post #603 (isolation #65) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:30 pm

You know what would be funny

Pink Ball · Post Post #604 (isolation #66) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:35 pm

Oh no nevermind, roleblock goes before redirector I think

Pink Ball · Post Post #605 (isolation #67) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:38 pm

Wow I really fucked the werewolves in this game didn't I. Got CSF to waste her redirector shot, blocked UT's N2 shot, got CSF killed (along with my main boi EP).

Call me Silver Bullet instead of Pink Ball

Pink Ball · Post Post #610 (isolation #68) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:55 pm

Reasons on why everyone could be scum:
1. EP: being a rolecop says nothing about his own alignment. He can just confirm everyone's alignment and look townie because of not lying but that wouldn't really help to solve his own slot. His lack of interactions on D2 is compelling.
2. Kerset: sorry dude I haven't payed enough attention to your slot to even consider you scum. The vig shot is cool but it just confirms you're not a werewolf which I'm pretty sure are not a main concern. Also claiming VT as alignment is boring.
3. Suji: this is my wildcard scumread. He apologized for not confirming SirCakez visting TL on N1 before. I fucking HATE this for two reasons: 1, pretty convenient watching TL who is an already flipped scum, seems like trying to get not!mafia reads on himself; and 2, because Suji says "I don't want to share my N1 result" that involves SirCakez, but actually asks Ovine to follow the massclaim. If you don't want to share your N1 target 'cause you want to see if your result will say the truth, why not asking your target to follow the massclaim? To me, it makes perfect sense that the mafia team did actually had some kind of guilty on CSF and TL tried to frame her, so Suji would be lying about his role.
4. Ovine: enough said, her reaction to TL being soft guiltied on D2 was bad, her survivalism seems bad, her N1 shot was bad... And the fact that there were 3 kills on N1 and 1 on N2 makes me believe that Ovine is a scum vigilante and since we lynched her partner, now the scumteam has only 1 shot and not 2.
5. Sircakez: makes no sense as scum unless partner with Suji and TL which makes no sense balance wise.
6. Silver Bullet: literally got both mafia and werewolf members destroyed, unless you guys think I'm a 3rd party which I'd be townsiding as fuck right now so what's the point.

Pink Ball · Post Post #611 (isolation #69) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:56 pm

In post 608, Kerset wrote:If there are 2 scum left and we don't intent to block GOC then we might end up 2v1v1 tomorrow. That is instalos for town.

This makes no sense

Pink Ball · Post Post #612 (isolation #70) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:59 pm

So, in conclusion!!

We no lynch today; EP rolecops Suji, I roleblock Ovine; if Suji is actually a watcher, I'd say bot him and sircakez are conftown, along with Silver Bullet of course, and we lynch Ovine; if EP says Suji is lying, we lynch Suji.

That's what will give us the most information today I think.

Pink Ball · Post Post #613 (isolation #71) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:02 pm

(by the way if you ask me I still think it's just Ovine and we're being precautious for nothing but oh well)

Pink Ball · Post Post #614 (isolation #72) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:12 pm

So BBmolla claimed survivor, voted literally only TL and Ovine in the entire game and got nightkilled? By a vig????

Lol

Pink Ball · Post Post #615 (isolation #73) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:12 pm

Wrap it up bois

Pink Ball · Post Post #620 (isolation #74) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:57 pm

In post 616, Kerset wrote:So all that you want to find out about by stalling is whenever suji is a real watcher? What if our rolecop gets killed?

How does the rolecop gets killed if I roleblock the only player with a nightkill right now

Pink Ball · Post Post #621 (isolation #75) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm

Oh no Ovine don't get pissed off please.

So what does BBmolla reading you crumb has anything to do with you killing him when he claimed survivor?

Pink Ball · Post Post #622 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:59 pm

Also don't call it a tunnel when I have legit reasons for scumreading you... Prove me wrong on my points and we can talk, but at this point no one has talked to me about my scumread on you so there's no proof I'm tunneling 'cause I haven't had a proper conversation about you.

Pink Ball · Post Post #623 (isolation #77) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:02 pm

In post 618, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 614, Pink Ball wrote:So BBmolla claimed survivor, voted literally only TL and Ovine in the entire game and got nightkilled? By a vig????

Lol
So let's take a step back and think- who is mafia other than GOC? Because when you lyncb me today, that's the question you'll need to answer still tonorrow

Literally posted like three posts ago why everyone could be scum and my preferred lynches

Pink Ball · Post Post #624 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:05 pm

I'm open to talking with anyone if that's not clear enough

Pink Ball · Post Post #627 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:10 am

We are not not lynching to see of you're the only scum remaining, we're doing it to rolecop Suji. If we were no lynching to see if you're the only kill it would be stupid; we already could think that since you were the only kill last night

Pink Ball · Post Post #631 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:29 am

Dude, we do not have any kind of information that indicates there's another kill going around. The only blocker is me so the only chances of having two kills are an odd night killer or that both the claimed vig and a remaining scum shot UT at the same time. By mere chances that's unusual, by play it's crazy; why would scum want UT dead?? Instead of me, CSF (who I made herself look as obvtown) or Suji?

And yeah Suji is right, he makes no sense as mafia. I just noticed another possibility that there's an alien alive 'cause they only get one nightkill if I remember correctly. So I'd still go with the no lynch scenario and get EP to rolecop Suji.

Pink Ball · Post Post #647 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:18 am

If EP lies then EP gets lynched after Suji...

Pink Ball · Post Post #657 (isolation #82) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:07 am

In post 650, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:
In post 647, Pink Ball wrote:If EP lies then EP gets lynched after Suji...
How will we know hes lying?

'Cause Suji will flip.

Pink Ball · Post Post #658 (isolation #83) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:10 am

Oh yeah what Suji said. If EP is scum there's pressure on him to confirm everyone's role.

Pink Ball · Post Post #660 (isolation #84) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:18 am

I feel like if the remaining scum is in between Ovine, EP and Suji we already won, and I'm pretty sure it is. My only remaining guess would be Kerset but even then we would win in a LyLo situation with sircakez alive.

And yes there's only one remaining scum 'cause Micc chooses the most balanced setup out of the three; with four not town flipped already it's safe to assume we're dealing with one remaining not town player. 13 players, 5v8, misslynch, 5v7, three kills all in town is 5v4, being either a 3v1v1v4, 2v2v1v4 or 2v1v1v1v4.

If you make it with one more scum, we'd basically hit LyLo on D2 knowing there were 2 werewolves already.

So it's either one remaining mafia or one not flipped another party, either alien or SK.

So stop the "but what if there are two scum remaining, we shouldn't no lynch today" paranoia. You either play it safe and no lynch today, or you are completely convinced on someone being the remaining scum and want to vote them already. You decide.

Pink Ball · Post Post #661 (isolation #85) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:20 am

(My theory is either Ovine is the remaining mafia or one between Suji/EP is the alien)

Pink Ball · Post Post #663 (isolation #86) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:42 am

Pink Ball · Post Post #670 (isolation #87) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:45 am

Kerset are you the remaining scum or you don't read what I post?

Pink Ball · Post Post #671 (isolation #88) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:47 am

In post 664, SirCakez wrote:Why are we assuming there's only one alien if there are aliens?? Could be a team..
@Pink Ball

I'm personally ready to NL

Read my posts...

2 aliens means there would be a chance of LyLo on D2 and Micc gets the most balanced setup

Pink Ball · Post Post #672 (isolation #89) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:48 am

What the fuck is all this paranoia, even I'm not that paranoid.

So to be clear: EP is rolecopping Suji. Suji is watching Ovine, I'm roleblocking Ovine. Is that ok?

Pink Ball · Post Post #674 (isolation #90) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:51 am

Oh it's because I'm the only one claiming my night action but if you want to go other way, sure

Pink Ball · Post Post #677 (isolation #91) » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:09 am

I know.

VOTE: No Lynch

Pink Ball · Post Post #684 (isolation #92) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:28 pm

Suji, please tell me you watched Ovine

Pink Ball · Post Post #687 (isolation #93) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:33 pm

It is for me too, let me see what Suji says.

Pink Ball · Post Post #691 (isolation #94) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:02 pm

Yeah that's my guess too

Pink Ball · Post Post #693 (isolation #95) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:21 pm

Pink Ball · Post Post #701 (isolation #96) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:26 pm

In post 694, Sujimichi wrote:Given the brevity of this game, I would like to review it in its entirety before we decide on a lynch today. I am currently most suspect of Kerset, but I do not think that Pink Ball is as clear as I believed him to be yesterday. We have two chances to be correct on our selection, and I do not want to rush through this.

SirCakez is the most Town player to me at the moment, so I will likely never consider him so I need to just remove one more player. Apologies, as I am limited activity at the moment so it will be a day or two before I can do this.

Yes, and I asked you to watch my target. Brilliant, scum!Pink Ball!

Pink Ball · Post Post #702 (isolation #97) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:27 pm

The fact that Ovine was the nightkill absolutely clears me, and I now think that Suji is scum because of that awful logic which is opening options for future days.

Pink Ball · Post Post #703 (isolation #98) » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:29 pm

Or is this just paranoid town? Hmmmm...

Pink Ball · Post Post #710 (isolation #99) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:31 am

Sure dude, agreeing with a well elaborated plan instead of "mmm I don't like the idea" is sheeping.

Pink Ball · Post Post #712 (isolation #100) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:22 am

So you're calling people sheep after 3 scumflips?

Pink Ball · Post Post #715 (isolation #101) » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:06 am

You are calling people sheep when town is winning

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:16 am

Yes, I'm trying to understand 'cause it seemed you were using sheep as a derogatory term to depict the players in this game and it didn't make sense to me since town is winning, so I don't get where is that frustration coming from

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:18 am

Also because agreeing with the best alternative doesn't mean you're not thinking in other alternatives, is just that you came to the same conclusion after thinking which is the best course of action.

For me, calling someone a sheep is calling out someone for not thinking for themselves and just following the loud player, and that's poopy.

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:18 am

Aaaaand finally, seems convenient to call everyone sheep when the general conclusion right now is that you're the remaining scum

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:21 am

But I get the "it works towards wincon until it doesn't" narrative, but that assumes that sheep are just following and not thinking. That's my two scents.

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:42 am

Why? I'm ok with it, I'm just having a convo with Kerset, maybe we get something out of it.

Like, I don't want to lynch Kerset and I want to see if they can convince the rest too

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:20 pm

You have to lean on anything you can to get to the main objective

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:27 pm

Sheeping is analyzable content tho

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:28 pm

Was sheeping wrong at some point? If yes, you can judge those who sheeped.

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:28 pm

Who do you think is the remaining scum betwee Suji and EP?

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:33 pm

Oh sure I didn't read that, let me think. I'm playing cards now with my family since self imposed quarantine, but I'll hit you up sooner than later

Pink Ball · Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:36 pm

Kerset in no way I feel you have been hostile towards me and I hope you feel the same way by the way. SirCakez comment threw me off

Pink Ball · Post Post #739 (isolation #113) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:44 am

Ok if nobody's going to say it I'll have to do it.

Kerset is town.

No way Kerset shoots CSF as any alignment other than town. 7 players with one wolf and mafia already flipped, no way mafia!Kerset thinks shooting scum from another faction is good for his wincon since it would be 1v1v5 so it would be convenient for him to draw their shot for later use, lynch town, hope CSF shoots town and they shoot town too, turns the thing into a 1v1v2, dayvig CSF, gets credit for it and win in LyLo.

Yes, scum!Kerset would think in this scenario because the whole point of being scum is thinking in advance, and that's how you catch scum and how you recognize town, you see who's acting for the long run and who's not, 'cause scum has to survive, town doesn't have to. So that shot on CSF, even if it could come from scum!Kerset, came without complain, without a second thought. That's town.

So let's talk about thinking in advance: Suji started the day trying to get some kind of WIFOM shit on me. He probably thinks Kerset was the mislynch today, and tomorrow he would try to make me and Espresso fight each other. What I thought it could be town paranoia, was actually playing for tomorrow and not for today. Town can win today, scum can't.

Why killing Ovine? 'Cause I said I'd target her, so Suji can go tomorrow and say "Silver Bullet wanted me to watch Ovine in order to clear him when in reality he was going to shoot her" or some kind of poop along those lines, generating even more WIFOM, the sweet sweet WIFOM. And that's why Suji didn't want to watch Ovine, 'cause it was not part of his long run plan. 'Cause Suji needed to make a kill, and with my roleblock on Ovine, Ovine would get cleared, so it had to be my target.

I'm pretty sure it's Suji. Even if it's not, this game should be over by tomorrow, 'cause I'll roleblock whoever I think it's scum between EP and Kerset and I'll either get an inno or a guilty.

Pink Ball · Post Post #742 (isolation #114) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:23 am

Yeah actually hold up a minute I'm basing everything on mechanics and I'm awful at that let me reread D1 and 2

Pink Ball · Post Post #743 (isolation #115) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:28 am

Damn it

Pink Ball · Post Post #744 (isolation #116) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:33 am

I hate this game, I hate being wrong.

But fuck me, I reread D2 and Suji would make sense only as alien. I may have overestimated Kerset 'cause their interactions with TL on D1 and 2 are awful.

And EP well I love him with all my heart but his ISO is underwhelming.

I want Kerset dead now lol and I'm going down with my boat with this one

VOTE: Kerset

Pink Ball · Post Post #747 (isolation #117) » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:46 am

Yeah I changed my mind mister baker, Silver Bullet sometimes gets in his own head and fucks around

Pink Ball · Post Post #761 (isolation #118) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:09 am

Pink Ball · Post Post #762 (isolation #119) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:10 am

SirCakez do you trust me? 'Cause if we trust each other we already won this game

Pink Ball · Post Post #763 (isolation #120) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:14 am

It's a technicality, but let's say Kerset is lynched today and they're not scum. EP, Suji, SirCakez and Silver Bullet left.

Silver Bullet announces publicly he'll roleblock Suji. If somebody dies, Suji couldn't have made the shot so it's EP. If no one dies, either Suji is the remaining scum or EP decided to no kill to frame Suji. Then we no lynch; we ask the mod how many nights would take him to force the scum to make a shot; after that night, if there's still no shot, Suji is scum. If someone dies, EP is scum.

Same applies for reverse (I roleblock EP yaddah yaddah).

So again, SirCakez, do you trust me?

Pink Ball · Post Post #765 (isolation #121) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:37 am

Nice.

Then I'd suggest the remaining scum to concede so we don't have to do that strategy that will only make the inevitable last longer.

Even if you, beloved remaining scum, are thinking "I can WIFOM the shit out of SirCakez/Silver Bullet and try to win it on LyLo", you won't. So how nice would be from you to end this on your own terms instead of making us lynch you. So nice. Frank Sinatra would be proud.

Pink Ball · Post Post #768 (isolation #122) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:12 am

In post 766, EspressoPatronum wrote:Lol, that's fantastic. In true MM2 fashion, the roleblock + no-lynch combo can secure the win.

Let's do it!

Inspired by you, the true OG

Pink Ball · Post Post #769 (isolation #123) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:13 am

In post 767, Kerset wrote:of course i am the one lynched

I mean you're the one closest to being lynched, but it doesn't really matter.

Wanna be part of the MyLo experiment? We can lynch Suji instead.

Pink Ball · Post Post #773 (isolation #124) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:46 am

I don't really care, one of them is scum, one I think is but I don't want them to be and the other I don't think but I want them to be.

Like, Kerset being scum would be so boring. Suji on the other hand would be a cool scum 'cause his distancing was on point if he's TL's partner as we are assuming. Thing is, Suji doing a good job at distancing is absolutely on Suji's scum range as I have seen before in a game we lost against him with mastina.

So at least if we're going for the boring option, we should do it with the boring solution (the one that involves roleblocking and no lynching) and leave the cool scenario for the cool solution (lynching now).

Yeah we have already won, let's at least give Suji the dead he deserves.

VOTE: Sujimichi

Pink Ball · Post Post #779 (isolation #125) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:26 pm

1. That's not AtE, I solved the game already, I just want you to be lynched first when it really doesn't matter 'cause I personally think you're the remaining scum even if what I think at this point is irrelevant 'cause town already won.
2. Yes, both mafia are watchers, what's the problem with that. It's a Greatest Idea game, balance is something you can't use to defend yourself. The only way you could use balance as an argument is how many scum are part of the game and we already did that.
3. The game is already solved, your possibility of being town is irrelevant. And I don't think you're town so it's even more irrelevant for me.

You getting aguilty in LyLo when the game is already solved is irrelevant and you're being survivalistic right now, if you were town you shouldn't care that you're getting lynched, like EP.

Pink Ball · Post Post #781 (isolation #126) » Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:46 pm

It is solved, you're acting like it isn't because you're scum. I already explained why it is solved and you're not addressin
Your second point is just really really lame Suji; I said "balance is something you can't use to defend yourself. The only way you could use balance as an argument is how many scum are part of the game and we already did that", so 1. I'm aknowledging that I have used balance as an argument but just to know how many scum are alive and not to define anyone's alignment, so saying "you have used balance as an argument several times" is exactly what I said but you snipped the important part; and 2. I didn't mention that your used of it is suspicious, I said you can't defend yourself with a balance argument 'cause it's a Greatest Mafia game. I'm not calling you scum because of balance, I'm saying you can't call yourself town because of balance.
Once again, the game is solved. Read my post again and tell me what's wrong about it, 'cause you haven't.

Saying you're fine being lynched today after I said you're being survivalistic is a little too late, bud.

Pink Ball · Post Post #785 (isolation #127) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:21 am

Oh, yeah. You're right, it's 100% solved if Cakez and me are town.

Ok my bad got your point.

Pink Ball · Post Post #786 (isolation #128) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:25 am

Well I think both EP and Kerset agreed both Cakez and me are town so a fortiori you should be the lynch.

If Cakez is scum we already lost 'cause he's pretty much conftown for me.

Pink Ball · Post Post #791 (isolation #129) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:40 am

Let me check what EP thinks and I'll go either way. I don't really care, lynching Suji and him flipping scum is my ego talking

Pink Ball · Post Post #804 (isolation #130) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:39 pm

Bad choice EP

VOTE: EspressoPatronum

Pink Ball · Post Post #805 (isolation #131) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:41 pm

"Damn it I was so sure it was Suji.

So if Kerset is telling the truth, my best shot is targeting EP; they think I'm roleblocking Kerset, so if I die we lose, but if Kerset dies, it means SirCakez made the shot and if no one dies, EP made the shot. But scum would always try to shoot anyone but Kerset if they believe Kerset is a survivor 'cause they win if they shoot town, so I'm obviously the target and I have to be right.

roleblock EP

If Kerset is the remaining scum tho, they'll have a cool LyLo trying to define if I roleblocked Kerset or EP. Let's see how it goes."

This is what I wrote when I roleblocked EP. I don't know what Kerset was doing if they aren't a survivor, but at least we have a liar busted.

Pink Ball · Post Post #809 (isolation #132) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:20 am

'Cause EP probably wanted to make us believe that Kerset was mafia

Pink Ball · Post Post #811 (isolation #133) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:23 am

In post 559, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:I'm also still thinking EP might be scum. He says hes a rolecop but if he were mafia, he would know who is town and everyone just revealed their roles so hes Scott free

Pink Ball · Post Post #812 (isolation #134) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:23 am

EP probably doesn't have any night actions

Pink Ball · Post Post #813 (isolation #135) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:25 am

Cakez I can assure you I'm roleblocking Kerset tonight, game's still over, town wins

Pink Ball · Post Post #819 (isolation #136) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 am

Exactly what Titus said. SirCakez is absolutely town because of how he started the day.

Why did you start the day saying you weren't roleblocked instead of saying you didn't act last night? That's odd.

Pink Ball · Post Post #821 (isolation #137) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:48 am

Titus are you fucking kidding me

Pink Ball · Post Post #822 (isolation #138) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:49 am

Are you going to make us lose the game getting ME lynched?????????????

Pink Ball · Post Post #823 (isolation #139) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:50 am

My posting has been slimy during the entire game, you're getting paranoid NOW because we're on endgame. Don't back down now for fucks sake the game is already won if you trust me

Pink Ball · Post Post #827 (isolation #140) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:52 am

It was solved. It's still solved

Pink Ball · Post Post #829 (isolation #141) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:54 am

I didn't consider the survivor possibility and maybe Kerset is scum, but if EP is town I roleblock Kerset tonight and we still win this. Game's mechanically solved if SirCakez and me are town

Pink Ball · Post Post #831 (isolation #142) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:56 am

Titus I know I'm going to be an asshole here so I'm going to say this as sweet as I can: please, please read the game. You haven't done it and it shows.

Pink Ball · Post Post #833 (isolation #143) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:57 am

Yes, on hindsight, what EP is saying is probably true. The survivor claim last night could come from alien!Kerset; we can lynch them instead and I roleblock EP again in case he's scum. The game is still over.

Pink Ball · Post Post #834 (isolation #144) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:58 am

In post 832, Titus wrote:So basically your position is No lynch until SirCakez dies and you'll be forced to give a clear and lock scum.

If either SirCakez or me die, one or the other is left with someone who was roleblocked and someone who wasn't, yes.

Last day I couldn't announce my target 'cause the day ended before I could and Kerset threw a curve ball

Pink Ball · Post Post #836 (isolation #145) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:59 am

YES AND I'M TOWN

Pink Ball · Post Post #840 (isolation #146) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:10 am

UNVOTE: EP 'cause he's at least being collaborative and townreading me which not doing it at this point is just bananas

Pink Ball · Post Post #844 (isolation #147) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:34 am

In post 833, Pink Ball wrote:Yes, on hindsight, what EP is saying is probably true. The survivor claim last night could come from alien!Kerset; we can lynch them instead and I roleblock EP again in case he's scum. The game is still over.

SirCakez stop fucking around, I'm town

Pink Ball · Post Post #845 (isolation #148) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:35 am

That unvote makes no fucking sense from a scum perspective. Even if it looks scummy.

That's me as town, scummy but not scum, always. As scum I'm townie.

Pink Ball · Post Post #847 (isolation #149) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:44 am

Don't use the r word please

Pink Ball · Post Post #854 (isolation #150) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:49 am

Kerset probably thought he had more chances winning at MyLo than LyLo, or maybe because he thought he was getting rb'ed it had no point shooting last night. That make sense with EP being townie today. And Kerset flailing last day. And I'll roleblock EP in case Kerset flips anything else.

Or Kerset is a SK, that could be it.

Yeah this game is still over,

VOTE: Kerset

Pink Ball · Post Post #857 (isolation #151) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:53 am

Well if you're a survivor you don't deserve to win with town 'cause you scumsided at the last minute. If EP is the remaining scum and I didn't block his shot, you both would've won.

So you die now, and you lose.

Pink Ball · Post Post #858 (isolation #152) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:54 am

No because I'm roleblocking EP again and then we lynch him

Pink Ball · Post Post #859 (isolation #153) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:55 am

Like, if I knew for a fact that EP is the remaining scum and the game ends by lynching him but I also know that you're a survivor, I'd choose lynching you first and then EP.

You're not winning with us for almost fucking us over.

Pink Ball · Post Post #862 (isolation #154) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:22 am

Cakez hasn't claimed survivor, and you're townsiding now that town is winning again.

Pink Ball · Post Post #865 (isolation #155) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:47 am

I don't care if you scumsided on purpose or not; if you're a survivor and someone else dies, both you and scum win, so you scumsided indirectly if you're a survivor.

Pink Ball · Post Post #870 (isolation #156) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:09 pm

Don't even

Pink Ball · Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:45 am

Titus why do you make me suffer like this

I make no sense as any scum faction

If I'm SK, where are my kills? If I'm an alien, why do I get rid of all the scum factions that can actually shoot at night? If I'm Mafia or Werewolf, why do I get rid of my partners?

I'm the town MVP, I already won the game for us, accept this reality and we will all be happy together

Pink Ball · Post Post #886 (isolation #158) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:37 pm

I don't have anything to add; SirCakez is conftown to me so this game is over

Pink Ball · Post Post #887 (isolation #159) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:38 pm

EP coasting is pretty much what I expect from scum!him but I want to see if Kerset is actually a survivor

Pink Ball · Post Post #896 (isolation #160) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:07 am

EP yesterday you declared I was your top townread. Are you going to 1v1 SirCakez or me?

Pink Ball · Post Post #898 (isolation #161) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:45 am

I will; have done it before but I want to be 100% sure. I'm probably end voting you so if you want to 1v1 someone it will have to be me, or if I'm wrong we just lose but I don't think I'm wrong.

The only offsetting thing here is the existence of an alien but I thought the same thing that Ovines said about your rolecop claim.

Pink Ball · Post Post #902 (isolation #162) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:22 am

In post 899, SirCakez wrote:I mean EP could still be mafia...

That's what I think

Pink Ball · Post Post #905 (isolation #163) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:33 am

Ok you could be a rolecop, let's keep with that. You could still be mafia who tried to look town by discarding another mafia card. And even if you say "I didn't know you didn't get a PM when you were roleblocked even when you didn't made an action" is slimy. Your "I wasn't roleblocked" looked like trying to cover the no nightkill 'cause you actually didn't submit a nightkill. You didn't rolecop either 'cause there was no point.

I don't know what to do right now, I really don't think I'll change my mind 'cause SirCakez being an alien is the only chance for you to be town and I don't really think his game makes sense as any scum faction, including alien.

p-edit: oh there you go, that's the change I needed to see.

VOTE: Espresso Patronum

Pink Ball · Post Post #906 (isolation #164) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:34 am

Yeah, it's solved. Sorry Cakez, it will be your call

Pink Ball · Post Post #907 (isolation #165) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:35 am

Only chance of me being scum is alien and that's the only chance EP has for winning this. It makes sense that he didn't conceded when I asked him to do it

Pink Ball · Post Post #910 (isolation #166) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:57 am

Oh so you're claiming I didn't roleblock you two nights ago?

Pink Ball · Post Post #911 (isolation #167) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:58 am

If Kerset was actually a survivor, scum!you or scum!SirCakez would have won by shooting me. I had to risk it because of Kerset's post. And I fucking nailed it.

Pink Ball · Post Post #912 (isolation #168) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:59 am

You just slipped there not taking in consideration the survivor alternative!

Pink Ball · Post Post #916 (isolation #169) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:01 am

Also, why would I want to lynch the claimed survivor if I were alien?

EP I'm sorry but you picked the wrong 1v1 and I lured you to it. You have absolutely no chance of winning this. I appreciate the effort after me getting scum lynches back to back and taking the right decisions, but you won't win.

Pink Ball · Post Post #917 (isolation #170) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:02 am

In post 915, EspressoPatronum wrote:Alien PB can't win because he already shot Ovine.

So you're claiming I decided to go for a tie instead of trying to win. That wouldn't be towards my win condition, and I'm pretty sure Ovine was townlocking me so why would I do that?

Pink Ball · Post Post #918 (isolation #171) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:03 am

Alien!SilverBullet: "let's lynch every single scum and kill the vig so I don't have any chance of winning this"

Pink Ball · Post Post #920 (isolation #172) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:05 am

Roleblocked CSF 'cause she was my biggest scumread, decided to counter TL 'cause I knew I could get them both lynched if I did instead of lynching CSF first and TL later: I can't be mafia.
Roleblocked the other werewolf helping town not get another loss.
Roleblocked you when there was a slim chance of town losing.

I fucking owned this game. Silver Bullet was, is and will be on point. Don't even try.

Pink Ball · Post Post #921 (isolation #173) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:06 am

In post 904, EspressoPatronum wrote:PB as an alien roleblocker explains why Ovine died when he did.

If we were all out of scum by that point, PB had no excuse to block Ovine beyond that one night. We would have had a vig going uncontested all the way to lylo, meaning an alien would almost certainly lose.

Better to go for a tie than a loss, I suppose.

We were all out of scum by that point BECAUSE OF ME.

And I could leash Ovine 'cause she was fucking townlocking ME.

If I were Alien, I WOULD HAVE ALREADY WON.

If I were any faction other than town, I WOULD HAVE ALREADY WON.

Kneel to me.

Pink Ball · Post Post #923 (isolation #174) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:09 am

Timing of Ovine's death make absofuckinglutely no sense for alien!SilverBullet. Let the vig make one or more mistakes and kill her after LyLo. Alien got only one shot, why use it there?

Also there's another hole in your theory: where is Ovine's shot in that night? Did she shoot herself? Or did I block her AND killed her at the same night? I don't think that's even possible my sweet EP, and you would know that.

Pink Ball · Post Post #925 (isolation #175) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:10 am

Why the fuck would I play to no lose when I'm playing like Jordan. Not because I'm missing Pippen that's for sure.

Pink Ball · Post Post #928 (isolation #176) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:14 am

I haven't shaded you? I called you the true OG that inspired me for the mechanic solve, and my mechanic solve worked and here we are.

And you are the one who called me your strongest townread last day and got lured to a 1v1 because you had no chance of winning a 1v1 against SirCakez, or at least I made you believe that. I had to lure you, 'cause if you 1v1ed Cakez I was going to get paranoid as fuck, but nope, you fell for it and now you're confscum. You dug your own grave

Pink Ball · Post Post #929 (isolation #177) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:14 am

EP, do you think I'm in a position where I need to fake a townslip? Come on dude have some desency

Pink Ball · Post Post #930 (isolation #178) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:15 am

Good to know that you could rolecop and kill Ovine that same night tho, thanks for the info.

Pink Ball · Post Post #931 (isolation #179) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:17 am

In post 914, Titus wrote:I think we should lynch EP. It feels dirty to lynch EP based off the same newbie error I made when I was a newbie, but it makes the most sense.

Alien PB likely just wins last night.

Titus get it.

I would've already won this game a long time ago, not just last night. I don't play to tie as scum, I play to win. And I do it, I do it fantastically. You're talking to a player who shot himself as scum because of the existence of a bus driver and won the game by doing it.

Scum!SilverBullet would've already won.

Pink Ball · Post Post #933 (isolation #180) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:21 am

No you weren't.

Pink Ball · Post Post #934 (isolation #181) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:25 am

First post you quoted: there's no shade in there? I was praising your mechanical solving capacity and I never judged you for not solving the game actually so like, anti shade?
Second post: I'm literally stating every single player's scumminess. Like, your case on "you have shaded me the entire game" makes sense for Suji, not you. And I decided to lynch Suji, not you. Get over it.
Third post: your ISO is underwhelming, am I wrong about that one? Only legit shade and it's before saying that I think Suji makes sense as Alien and voting Kerset. Once again, would make sense for Suji, not you.
Fourth post: it's from the last day. Last day I didn't shade you, I scumread you. That's different. IF I WERE AN ALIEN I WOULD'VE LYNCHED YOU YESTERDAY AND WIN WITH THE SURVIVOR TODAY.

You just keep making me look even more town, EP.

Pink Ball · Post Post #936 (isolation #182) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:28 am

And I'll post this once again because it's like, the biggest argument you have made me realize:

IF ALIEN!SILVERBULLET IS OUT OF SHOTS, HE CAN STILL WIN BY LYNCHING TOWN!EP AND THEN TOWN!SIRCAKEZ AND WIN WITH THE SURVIVOR; INSTEAD, SILVER BULLET LYNCHED THE SURVIVOR, HIS REMAINING CHANCE OF WINNING THIS GAME IF HE WERE AN ALIEN. AND SILVER BULLET WAS VERY EXPLICITLY STATING THAT HE BELIEVED KERSET WAS A SURVIVOR, SO NO, IT WASN'T ALIEN!SILVERBULLET GETTING TOWN LYNCHED AND TRYING TO GO FOR A TIE.

Thank you EP you just solved the game!

Pink Ball · Post Post #938 (isolation #183) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:30 am

In post 935, EspressoPatronum wrote:@Cakez -- PB said it. You were the optimal target for scum!EP. I've laid out everything that stood out on my reread. It's in your hands now.

I didn't choose the life of tarnishing the Silver Bullet's game - it chose me.

No, Cakez was the optimal target for scum!EP from SILVER BULLET'S perspective, not yours. Silver Bullet was saying that he wouldn't change his mind and he would end up voting you no matter what, so you had no chance to 1v1 me.

I lured you to believe that was your best strategy to follow.

Pink Ball · Post Post #940 (isolation #184) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:31 am

In post 937, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 934, Pink Ball wrote:First post you quoted: there's no shade in there? I was praising your mechanical solving capacity and I never judged you for not solving the game actually so like, anti shade?
Second post: I'm literally stating every single player's scumminess. Like, your case on "you have shaded me the entire game" makes sense for Suji, not you. And I decided to lynch Suji, not you. Get over it.
Third post: your ISO is underwhelming, am I wrong about that one? Only legit shade and it's before saying that I think Suji makes sense as Alien and voting Kerset. Once again, would make sense for Suji, not you.
Perhaps I'm mixing up shade with "dropping hints/avenues of scumreading." If it's a more negative connotation, I didn't mean to suggest that.

I meant that you've been building up to a mislynch on me for a long time.

And the answer is still the same: that argument makes sense towards Suji, not you. And Suji is already dead.

Pink Ball · Post Post #942 (isolation #185) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:33 am

In post 939, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 934, Pink Ball wrote:[...]
Fourth post: it's from the last day. Last day I didn't shade you, I scumread you. That's different. IF I WERE AN ALIEN I WOULD'VE LYNCHED YOU YESTERDAY AND WIN WITH THE SURVIVOR TODAY.

You just keep making me look even more town, EP.
You
did
try to lynch me yesterday. You only let up once Cakez and Titus said they were suspicious.

I did and changed my mind, and got even more suspicions because a change of vote when I called you caught scum was scummy and looked like getting any lynch no matter the cost, so no, I didn't change my vote when they were suspicious, I changed my vote because I changed my mind. That's how town works.

Pink Ball · Post Post #943 (isolation #186) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:34 am

Wow you really are going to hang on that. That's really sweet.

Pink Ball · Post Post #944 (isolation #187) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:37 am

I think Silver Bullet has been clear enough

Pink Ball · Post Post #945 (isolation #188) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:40 am

And I love you EP and I was going to say something like "wow that's the stupidest argument to lean on" 'cause shit 1v1ing is intense! So I'm dropping it and letting Cakez read everything before going with it again if needed. Good job man I really appreaciate this back and forth it was fun.

(And good thing you didn't concede when there was like virtually no chance of winning this)

Pink Ball · Post Post #953 (isolation #189) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:49 am

I roleblocked Ovine so that's not even possible.

And Titus bad timing 'cause we both said we were shutting up before you said it lol

Pink Ball · Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:18 am

99% is a lot good job

Pink Ball · Post Post #961 (isolation #191) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:57 am

Well done!

Pink Ball · Post Post #965 (isolation #192) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:05 am

No no, I'm town, we won, I swear

Pink Ball · Post Post #966 (isolation #193) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:06 am

In post 959, Titus wrote:PB still feels slimy but I think that can come from having the answer before anyone else.

I should apply this with no context at all for every single game I play from now on

Pink Ball · Post Post #967 (isolation #194) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:09 am

In post 946, EspressoPatronum wrote:Regardless of how this turns out, I'm happy the 1v1 was with you.

GG either way, PB.

EP I didn't want to say it 'cause I was being legit and not trying to obtain anything out of what I said on my last post towards you, but saying "I'm happy the 1v1 was with you" sounds like you had the alternative to 1v1 with other player meaning that you were the remaining scum

It really was fun to LyLo with you dude good job hanging on until the last minute, I was a pain in the ass and the "scum should concede" line I started a day before was something that could've easily got into your nerves

Pink Ball · Post Post #968 (isolation #195) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:11 am

EP were you an alien or mafia? I think you were mafia but just to be clear

Pink Ball · Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:51 am

SIR FUCKING CAKEZ

Pink Ball · Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:56 am

In post 978, GlowingOvineChimes wrote:Ya me too tbh... town didn't deserve a win here

You're kidding right?

6 town vs 7 non town, we managed to lynch 5 out of those 7, with only one of them being shot at N1.

Pink Ball · Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:58 am

SIR CAKEZ YOU MADE US HAVE A FUCKING 1V1 WHEN YOU COULD JUST RANDOM LYNCH ANY OF THEM AND DRAW WITH WHOEVER YOU WANTED, WHY THE FUCK DID YOU MAKE US WAITTTTTTTT I TRUSTED YOU, YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE

Pink Ball · Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:01 am

In post 963, SirCakez wrote:STOP MAKING ME PARANOID

In post 964, SirCakez wrote:WHAT IF PB WAS BUSSING SCUM THE WHOLE TIME???

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU ACT LIKE YOU WERE TOWN HERE GOD DAMN SIR FUCKING CAKEZ