Mini 2123: Greatest Idea IX - Game Over

[Kerset]

No one claims survivor ever, because town has no reason to let survivors live...

[SirCakez]

The following cards have been discarded:

Player Name	Discard
TemporalLich	Werewolf Tracker
Titus	Alien Bulletproof Lover
TrueSoulEnergy	Town Compulsive Bodyguard
EspressoPatronum	Mafia Ninja
GlowingOvineChimes	Vanilla Townie
BBmolla	Tentacled Townie
Kerset	Serial Killer Alien-Immune
Non lmh	Vanilla Townie
Sujimichi	Mafia Goon
Untrod Tripod	Hirsute Goon
Yshtola Rhul	Town Cop
SirCakez	Werewolf Cop
Cat Scratch Fever	Alpha Werewolf

@GlowingOvineChimes, @BBmolla, @Non Imh, @Yshtola Rhul

You all discarded town. What card did you use for alignment?
No need to go into roles yet.

Nb - thank you @TSE for claiming your alignment card already. I'll put you down as VT alignment.

I used Survivor for alignment

[Kerset]

as you see i am alive and he is dead

[SirCakez]

LOL true
I think the better case for Kerset scum is two Survivors doesn't make sense

[Pink Ball]

Kerset probably thought he had more chances winning at MyLo than LyLo, or maybe because he thought he was getting rb'ed it had no point shooting last night. That make sense with EP being townie today. And Kerset flailing last day. And I'll roleblock EP in case Kerset flips anything else.

Or Kerset is a SK, that could be it.

Yeah this game is still over,

VOTE: Kerset

[Kerset]

BBmola misplayed and claimed surv which got him killed by vigilante. I am not careless like that. This is greatest idea don't hope for clean balance.
Why do you think that i claimed surv in first place? To avoid roleblock? To avoid being lynched today? All i wanted was not to get killed on night when i get cleared.

[Kerset]

If kill happens after my lynch then you are done. Anyone can be SK here.

[Pink Ball]

Well if you're a survivor you don't deserve to win with town 'cause you scumsided at the last minute. If EP is the remaining scum and I didn't block his shot, you both would've won.

So you die now, and you lose.

[Pink Ball]

No because I'm roleblocking EP again and then we lynch him

[Pink Ball]

Like, if I knew for a fact that EP is the remaining scum and the game ends by lynching him but I also know that you're a survivor, I'd choose lynching you first and then EP.

You're not winning with us for almost fucking us over.

[Kerset]

I didn't scumside, i vote EP with you. Anyway as you see cakez claiming surv is bad.

[SirCakez]

I want to consult Titus again before we lynch anyone

[Pink Ball]

Cakez hasn't claimed survivor, and you're townsiding now that town is winning again.

[Kerset]

That case being that he claimed Surv
There's already a dead Surv and

no one waits until day five to claim that

I was referring to this.

[Kerset]

Look in normal case when i am roleblocked the most likely scenario was that i will be the one who gets killed. If anyone beside me dies then i am conftown, so kill would clearly went at me. It has nothing to do with scumsiding -.- i just can't let get myself killed ;_;

[Pink Ball]

I don't care if you scumsided on purpose or not; if you're a survivor and someone else dies, both you and scum win, so you scumsided indirectly if you're a survivor.

[SirCakez]

If Kerset is the last scum then they would be playing like a Surv regardless

[Kerset]

The Win Conditions are...

• Town
  : You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and there is at least one Town player alive, or if nothing can prevent such a scenario.
  
• Mafia
  : You win when all threats to the Mafia have been eliminated and there is at least one Mafia player alive, or if nothing can prevent such a scenario.
  
• Werewolf
  : You win when all threats to the Werewolves have been eliminated and there is at least one Werewolf player alive, or if nothing can prevent such a scenario.
  
• Alien
  : You win when all threats to the Aliens have been eliminated and there is at least one Alien player alive, or if nothing can prevent such a scenario.
  
• Survivor
  : You win if the game ends and you are alive.
  
• Lyncher
  : You win if (your target) is lynched with you on the wagon. If you are unsuccessful, you lose. If your result occurs before the game ends, you will be removed from the game, and it will continue as long as it would otherwise not end.
  
• Serial Killer
  : You win when one of the following are true:
  1. All threats to you have been eliminated and you are still alive, or if nothing can prevent such a scenario.
  2. All threats to you have been eliminated and your death occurred in the most recent game phase, or if nothing can prevent such a scenario.

If there is one townie, one survivor and one scum left then the game will continue. The scum wincon is not parity.

[EspressoPatronum]

VOTE: Kerset

Time to lock this one in.

[Kerset]

I actually bet on pink SK, so i feel betrayed

[Pink Ball]

Don't even

[Kerset]

credit shall to me

[Titus]

Objectively, we're better off no lynching but even an idiot would no kill here.

[Titus]

I want to sleep on this because EP's error is NAI (I know from experience). PB doesn't feel right and I have suspected Kerset since go.

I have no reason not to believe SirCakez result but that makes UT killing me kind of nonsense.

[Micc]

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