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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:58 am

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annnd we're locked again.
Second we're unlocked I'm making a rule to stop the game from being locked up like this
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:36 pm

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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:48 pm

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As for my Refferer, I shall say whomever currently has the least amount of Reputation points at this time.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:56 pm

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We have 5 again.

I'm not sure I can count that as a valid referral. Can I have opinions from other players on the matter?
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I'll edit this post with the current proposals. Most of them need your vote to progress.

Edit: Here we go:
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Proposal 322
() by logan5123: Transmute 301 to immutable.
Yea - , , ,
Nay -
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
This requires unaminous consent.


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Proposal 329
() by Allomancer: A player may duel another player by announcing their intention do so in in bold in the thread. Only one duel may take place at a time. All players not in the duel have one vote to vote for a winner of duel, which they do by posting a vote tag with the dueler's name. The dueler with the majority of votes wins the duel. If there is a tie when all active players have voted, the defender wins the duel. The loser of the duel loses 10 Reputation and the winner gains 10 Reputation.
Yea - ,
Nay -
Not Voting - StrangerCoug, Jake the Wolfie

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Proposal 330
() by Ircher: Transmute 327 to immutable.
Yea - , , ,
Nay -
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
This requires unaminous consent.


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Proposal 333
() by StrangerCoug: Players may withdraw any of their own proposals made after the passage of this rule. A withdrawn proposal is treated as if it failed immediately upon withdrawal for the purposes of rules affecting failed proposals.
Yea - ,
Nay -
Not Voting - logan5123, Allomancer, Jake the Wolfie
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:01 pm

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In post 153, Ircher wrote:I'm not sure I can count that as a valid referral. Can I have opinions from other players on the matter?
I say he must explicitly name one.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:02 pm

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In post 125, Ircher wrote:You can't transmute individual parts of the rule though. Heck, if you vote yes, I'll even give you 2 rep. How does that sound? (I'll do it for anyone who votes yes to these proposals.)

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() by logan5123: Transmute 301 to immutable.
Yea - , ,
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Not Voting - Jormengand, StrangerCoug
This requires unaminous consent.


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() by Ircher: Motions may supersede any and all mutable rules, but they may not override immutable rules.
Yea -
Nay -
Not Voting - logan5123, Jormengand, StrangerCoug

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() by Ircher: There may be a max of three proposed motions at a time.
Yea -
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VOTE: Yea 322
VOTE: Nay 327
VOTE: Nay 328
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:07 pm

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In post 153, Ircher wrote:We have 5 again.

I'm not sure I can count that as a valid referral. Can I have opinions from other players on the matter?
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I'll edit this post with the current proposals. Most of them need your vote to progress.

Edit: Here we go:
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1.
Proposal 322
() by logan5123: Transmute 301 to immutable.
Yea - , , ,
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Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
This requires unaminous consent.


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Proposal 329
() by Allomancer: A player may duel another player by announcing their intention do so in in bold in the thread. Only one duel may take place at a time. All players not in the duel have one vote to vote for a winner of duel, which they do by posting a vote tag with the dueler's name. The dueler with the majority of votes wins the duel. If there is a tie when all active players have voted, the defender wins the duel. The loser of the duel loses 10 Reputation and the winner gains 10 Reputation.
Yea - ,
Nay -
Not Voting - StrangerCoug, Jake the Wolfie

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Proposal 330
() by Ircher: Transmute 327 to immutable.
Yea - , , ,
Nay -
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
This requires unaminous consent.


4.
Proposal 333
() by StrangerCoug: Players may withdraw any of their own proposals made after the passage of this rule. A withdrawn proposal is treated as if it failed immediately upon withdrawal for the purposes of rules affecting failed proposals.
Yea - ,
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Not Voting - logan5123, Allomancer, Jake the Wolfie
VOTE: ABSTAIN 329
VOTE: NAY 330 (Not like it Fuken matters)
VOTE: YEA 333
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:12 pm

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Proposal 334:
Every character "e" must be colored red after the passing of this rule.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:25 pm

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Motion M001:
Repeal rule M001 for as long as it can take effect.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:29 pm

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VOTE: Nay 329
Thought I did that already.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:32 pm

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In post 159, StrangerCoug wrote:VOTE: Nay 329
Thought I did that already.
Well I guess we have a tie.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 156, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 153, Ircher wrote:We have 5 again.

I'm not sure I can count that as a valid referral. Can I have opinions from other players on the matter?
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I'll edit this post with the current proposals. Most of them need your vote to progress.

Edit: Here we go:
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Up to date as of post .


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Proposal 322
() by logan5123: Transmute 301 to immutable.
Yea - , , ,
Nay -
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
This requires unaminous consent.


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Proposal 329
() by Allomancer: A player may duel another player by announcing their intention do so in in bold in the thread. Only one duel may take place at a time. All players not in the duel have one vote to vote for a winner of duel, which they do by posting a vote tag with the dueler's name. The dueler with the majority of votes wins the duel. If there is a tie when all active players have voted, the defender wins the duel. The loser of the duel loses 10 Reputation and the winner gains 10 Reputation.
Yea - ,
Nay -
Not Voting - StrangerCoug, Jake the Wolfie

3.
Proposal 330
() by Ircher: Transmute 327 to immutable.
Yea - , , ,
Nay -
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
This requires unaminous consent.


4.
Proposal 333
() by StrangerCoug: Players may withdraw any of their own proposals made after the passage of this rule. A withdrawn proposal is treated as if it failed immediately upon withdrawal for the purposes of rules affecting failed proposals.
Yea - ,
Nay -
Not Voting - logan5123, Allomancer, Jake the Wolfie
VOTE: ABSTAIN 329
VOTE: NAY 330 (Not like it Fuken matters)
VOTE: YEA 333
Zzz looks like I'm retrying 330 in (expired on 2020-04-03 21:57:36). I would say it does matter since lower numbered mutable rules take precedence when there is a conflict between two mutable rules.

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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:58 pm

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Also M001 is invalid because it doesn't specify a time frame, which all motions should.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:02 pm

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Motion M001:
Repeal rule M001 for as long as it can take effect. This has a maximum timeframe of 1 week.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:04 pm

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VOTE: Nay M001
VOTE: Nay 334
334 is just a nuisance. M001 makes no sense.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:12 pm

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In post 164, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Nay M001
VOTE: Nay 334
334 is just a nuisance. M001 makes no sense.
334 is the first real rule that we would have to follow.
It can also lead to players generation rep/some other currency
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:57 pm

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VOTE: Nay M001
VOTE: Nay 334
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:25 pm

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In post 153, Ircher wrote:I'm not sure I can count that as a valid referral. Can I have opinions from other players on the matter?
The rule says "specify the referrer's name", which I think is pretty clear.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:52 pm

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VOTE: NAY 304
VOTE: NAY M001
Fucking finally.
Anyone have any good ideas on a rule to stop us having the game stop on us every other day?
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:55 pm

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Hey, jake's line about reputation made me have some ideas.
335: Any time a player does not follow a rule, they lose 1 reputation.

336: Players cannot win the game while they have less than 0 reputation.

You know, for the future.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:02 pm

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wait shit
VOTE: NAY 334
pretend you didn't see that :wink:
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:10 am

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VOTE: Nay 334
VOTE: Nay M001
VOTE: Nay 335
VOTE: Yea 336
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:13 am

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I'm afraid I can't count either proposal in because I had not acknowledged any proposals as passing/failing, and thus, Jake's proposal in was the fifth pending proposal. See rule 208. (Well maybe you consider my post in as an acknowledgement that 330 fails. So I can count the first proposal then but not the second. To be clear,
336 must be resubmitted to count.
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329, 330, 334, and M001 fails. 333 passes.
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VOTE: Abstain 335
I think for most rules, it's unnecessary and may even come down to interpretation. For the rules that should have a penalty, I think it's better for them to explicitly state their penalty. I'm also not a believer in double-penalizing a player if a rule already specifies a penalty.
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:57 am

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Fine.
336: Players cannot win the game while they have less than 0 reputation.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:00 am

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We will never have any rules that players must follow because all players would immediately Nay it.
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