mini 2126: the game is OVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Something_Smart]

if rce is actually a goon then that situation is possible, but based on how the claims went down i guess i would consider that somewhat unlikely?

+1

[Alchemist21]

boon's mind works in mysterious ways (especially when it comes to roles), but if he's scum here with a real gunsmith result on RCE, why out it?

I don't really think Boon's scum here either but it's a possibility. "Why out it?" Claiming a guilty on a slot establishes credibility as a Town investigative while forcing that other PR to publicly out so that it makes sense when they get NK'd. It's not a plan that guarantees his survival as scum but it does provide some extra longevity (about until it's certain whether or not that there's no Town protective to explain why scum aren't targeting him at Night).

I've done something similar where I had a scum Traffic Analyst guilty on a Mason. It worked up to an extent.

[Eddie Cane]

Luna because of her weird play while being wagoned without any chainsaw/defense behavior from elsewhere, even when people continued to scumread for it. Her easy sheeping is also townie. Resonated with her readslist where she called Penguin a "meanie" (I don't think he is tho )

Smart because you're above null, and I'm tying his alignment to yours. Picking a serious offensive line (if not a push, simply phrases like "stop throwing garbage") isn't something I'd expect Scumthing_Smart to do. His general activity seems to be more than I remember him to have carried as scum. I probably carry some bias towards townreading him though.

Smart has had some lines, such as that, that struck town to me. Its arguing in my brain over some scummy things. Again, I think he is unaligned with iDany

[northsidegal]

I seem to get pushed on bad reasoning merely because I have more content and it's easier to find reasons to scumread me

this is actually pretty contrary to what i think. i've found that the number one correlation with dropping on people's readslists and getting lynched is a lack of thread presence (and yes, this is confirmed through people who are not me and do not have my meta). literally just showing up to the thread often and saying anything goes a pretty significant way towards not getting lynched, i think.

of course, once you've gotten past that step there are obviously still considerations and that's probably where what you're talking about would come in, but still.

[Eddie Cane]

nsg, are you reading this full game chronologically?

[northsidegal]

yes.

[northsidegal]

why do you ask?

[Eddie Cane]

doesn't matter yet. Just based on the time between you quoting a post in the 700s and 1100s.

[northsidegal]

fyi around the time i quoted that schadd poll and for a bit after that i stopped reading to review schadd's old normals, what your rate of killing power roles is when you're scum and the same for flavor leaf, so there's probably some gaps.

[northsidegal]

on that second subject i have little to conclude except that i model you as someone who cares more about the players than the roles when it comes to determining nightkills, although as you've said (and as i agree) this isn't exactly a standard game for you.

i have never actually used this tell in a game before but some discussion over the nightkill reminded me of how mathdino killed a PR ever night he was alive as scum (allegedly), so it got me thinking.

[Eddie Cane]

i model you as someone who cares more about the players than the roles when it comes to determining nightkills

the short reply is this is an accurate analysis for your purposes

the added on part is i am a very controlling person when it comes to nightkills, i'm pretty known in video for strongarming kills more than most scum do

[northsidegal]

i would be pretty surprised if schadd went for a mafia doctor this game.

[northsidegal]

assuming the gunsmiths are town, that is.

[northsidegal]

i should qualify that. if we have one or more vigilantes this game (which is less likely given only one kill night 1, but still possible), then a mafia doctor is possible (maybe even likely). absent that though, i don't see gunsmiths vs one mafia doctor being this setup's concept.

[northsidegal]

by the way eddie, you hear the news?

momo's back

[northsidegal]

i keep coming back to these same three names: alchemist, auro, zulfy/idany.

[Eddie Cane]

by the way eddie, you hear the news?

momo's back

WHAT??

[northsidegal]

/in XP

it's actually his birthday today

[Eddie Cane]

wow, fire could have saved all his begging for me to play if he just name dropped a momo game. damn.

[Comical]

i think either comical and RCE are both town or they're both scum, based off of what i expect from schadd's design. i don't think it's likely that one is town and the other is scum, from what i know so far.

This feels scum indicative, and I have no idea how to explain it.

Also, I haven’t been playing mafia really as much lately. I got burnt out.

[OkaPoka]

boon vs nsg subscribe

[Comical]

i keep coming back to these same three names: alchemist, auro, zulfy/idany.

Idany’s obv town since they replaced in. And by that I mean 70% likely to be town.

Auro is scummy, but he is high town reading me, and he did this last time we were both town, but I feel he could potentially know this, and it’s why he’s doing it.

[Comical]

I feel like I’ve mainly only seen NSG as scum.

[Comical]

Can you explain how Conical!Gunsmith and RCE!Goon is unlikely from Schadd's design style?

my statement made the prior assumption that both players were actually gunsmiths of some form--town or scum--which i consider the most likely scenario (although i don't really believe comical's modifier for a second).

if rce is actually a goon then that situation is possible, but based on how the claims went down i guess i would consider that somewhat unlikely?

Why does he have to be a goon? He can essentially be anything except a scum doctor if he’s scum.

I tend to think the way it went about was TownRCE, but i really don’t like the S/S or T/T mindset.

It looks like a setup for NSG to being partners with RCE slot, so if I die (they can kill me), RCE slot gets to be pushed as “town gunsmith” and run rampant with results. If RCE is killed and flips scum, it gives them momentum to push me harder.

[Comical]

i would be pretty surprised if schadd went for a mafia doctor this game.

assuming the gunsmiths are town, that is.

i should qualify that. if we have one or more vigilantes this game (which is less likely given only one kill night 1, but still possible), then a mafia doctor is possible (maybe even likely). absent that though, i don't see gunsmiths vs one mafia doctor being this setup's concept.

i keep coming back to these same three names: alchemist, auro, zulfy/idany.

Like I absolutely don’t see how this is a town mindset. This is hard pushing a subtle scum agenda.

I don’t even remember NSG being in this game, who’d they replace?