Nomic: The Constitution Game - Game Over

[Jake The Wolfie]

"I don't like win conditions"
Well then how the fuck are we every going to win?

[Ircher]

371 and 372 pass.

Up to date as of post 350.

Pending Proposals

1.

Proposal 357

(259) by Ircher: If a third (rounded to nearest) or more of active players abstain on a proposal, the proposal automatically fails.
Yea - Ircher, StrangerCoug
Nay - Allomancer
Abstain - logan5123
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie

2.

Proposal 367

(298) by logan5123: A president may pass 1 rule per presidency. A president cannot pass a rule if it requires unaminous consent, or a supermajority.
Yea - logan5123
Nay -
Not Voting - Ircher, Allomancer, StrangerCoug, Jake the Wolfie

3.

Proposal 373

(340, 346, 347) by logan5123: Every time a president is elected, they gain 1 reputation and draw a card. This rule is applied retroactively upon passing.
Yea - logan5123
Nay -
Abstain - Ircher
Not Voting - Allomancer, StrangerCoug, Jake the Wolfie

4.

Proposal 374

(341) by logan5123: If a player draws an Ace, Queen, King, Jack, and 10, all in the same suit, they win the game.
Yea - logan5123
Nay - Ircher
Not Voting - Allomancer, StrangerCoug, Jake the Wolfie

Pending Motions

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Yea 373
VOTE: Abstain 374 I also oppose win conditions in principle, but hey, given how rare a royal flush is...

Well then how the fuck are we every going to win?

Ever played simulation games like city builders? I find the fun of those in the simulation itself, without a real final goal to achieve. However, in the specific case of city builders, I'll grant that they often offer scenarios, with goals that offer a "win condition" (SimCity, I think the Natural Disasters expansion of Cities: Skylines).

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Nay 367
VOTE: Yea 373
VOTE: Nay 374

[Jake The Wolfie]

Proposal 375:

No player may win the game.

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Abstain 375

[Ircher]

VOTE: Nay 367
VOTE: Abstain 375

Motion M009: The proposal limit is hereby raised to eight proposals for 48 hours.

The old one is about to expire, and I'm not quite ready to agree to it being a full fledged change, so let's renew the motion.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Nay 367
VOTE: Abstain 375
VOTE: Yea M009

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Yea M009

[Ircher]

Motion M009 passes. I'll figure everything else out tomorrow morning.

[logan5123]

welp I fucked up, didn't I
welp good thing it's 48 hours instead of 24, lol.
anywho, VOTE: NAY 375 If it even matters since I think the abstain fail rule fucked that one up but whatever

10 out of 10 president here, folks

Let's get this ball rolling, since we've basically got it approved already:

376: The proposal limit is raised to eight proposals, permanently.

There's no such thing as "too soon" in the law

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Yea 376

[Ircher]

Look here folks, if all things go well in the next 48 hours, I'll approve of such a proposal. I just have to make sure I'm not spending too much time on this game versus other important stuff.
VOTE: Nay 376

[Ircher]

373 passes. 367, 374, and 375 fail.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: NAY 357

[Jake The Wolfie]

Proposal 277:

Weak rules are a new rule category. They are unofficial rules that have no weighing over anyone. It requires a 1/3rd vote to pass. A weak rule may be transmuted into and out of the mutable rules by a Supermajority.

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Nay 277

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Nay 376
277 is not even numbered correctly

[Jake The Wolfie]

Proposal 377:

Weak rules are a new rule category. They are unofficial rules that have no weighing over anyone. It requires a 1/3rd vote to pass. A weak rule may be transmuted into and out of the mutable rules by a Supermajority.

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Nay 377

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Nay 377 Useless, and I'm opposed to anything that requires less than a majority to pass.

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Nay 377 Useless, and I'm opposed to anything that requires less than a majority to pass.

Didn't you originally Yea the President?

[logan5123]

VOTE: ABSTAIN 377
Might have some merits, although for the life of me idk what they are

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Nay 377 Useless, and I'm opposed to anything that requires less than a majority to pass.

Didn't you originally Yea the President?

Yes, but the president can be given as much control and influence as we wish. I call weak rules "useless" because they aren't enforceable and allow an excuse to spam the rule set with fluff nobody needs.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Nay 377