Nomic: The Constitution Game - Game Over

[Jake The Wolfie]

Proposal 405:

Repeal 402, and amend 401 to the following: "A player may vote "[Yea/Nay] with reservations" on any proposal made after this rule, which shall henceforth be known as a vote with reservations. A player who does so should, but is not required to, explain the reservations the player holds that prevent an unqualified vote. A vote with reservations is indistinct from a normal vote for the purposes of calculating the number of votes needed to pass a proposal."

Credit 405 to StrangerCoug

If this fails, I won't be angry. Just disappointed.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Yea 404
VOTE: Yea 405 Makes sense to consolidate those two.

[Jake The Wolfie]

If I give someone negative points, do I gain points?

[Ircher]

A tie in the election basically means no president. A candidate must get an absolute majority to be elected.

[logan5123]

I'll add a backdoor just in case that happens.

406: If no player gets an absolute majority in any given election, no President will be elected. The timer will still start as if a President had been elected, however no President will fill the spots and all actions done by a President either cannot be initiated or will not occur. If the game has no current President as a result of this occurring, a player may spend any positive amount of Reputation to stage a coup. Once a coup has been staged, all active players may spend half the amount of Reputation, rounded down, to cancel the coup. If it has been 24 hours and nobody has cancelled any given coup, the player who initiated the coup will become President, acting as if they had been elected in the previous election. All actions occurring upon election of a president occur once a successful coup resolves.

If I missed anything, point it out to me.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Nay 406
There's no time limit on elections either. Ghere's only a time limit on the primary/nomination phase.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Nay 406

[logan5123]

I tried, I guess

shrug

[StrangerCoug]

It's not down for the count yet

[logan5123]

VOTE: YEA 405
Somehow completely forgot to do this

[Ircher]

403 and 405 pass.

The general election phase begins. Your candidates are logan5123 and Ircher.

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Up to date as of post 509.

Pending Proposals

1.

Proposal 381

(381, 392) by logan5123: Motions may be extended with a majority vote. Extending a motion sets the countdown to a different amount than originally stated. The time of the extension is chosen in the extension request.
Yea - logan5123, Allomancer
Nay - Ircher
Abstain - StrangerCoug
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie

2.

Proposal 383

(381) by logan5123: All players found to have violated rule 323, and their alternate accounts, are to be removed from the game. Players removed via this rule cannot rejoin under any account.
Yea - logan5123, Allomancer
Nay - StrangerCoug
Abstain - Ircher
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie

3.

Proposal 388

(421) by logan5123: More than one president cannot be nominated in a party. Parties must vote on a president. Parties individually decide how they vote on presidential nominees.
Yea - logan5123, StrangerCoug
Nay - Allomancer
Abstain - Ircher
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie

4.

Proposal 404

(499) by logan5123: A player cannot be nominated as president if it would cause all active players to be nominated for the presidency.
Yea - logan5123, StrangerCoug
Nay -
Not Voting - Ircher, Allomancer, Jake the Wolfie

5.

Proposal 406

(504) by logan5123: If no player gets an absolute majority in any given election, no President will be elected. The timer will still start as if a President had been elected, however no President will fill the spots and all actions done by a President either cannot be initiated or will not occur. If the game has no current President as a result of this occurring, a player may spend any positive amount of Reputation to stage a coup. Once a coup has been staged, all active players may spend half the amount of Reputation, rounded down, to cancel the coup. If it has been 24 hours and nobody has cancelled any given coup, the player who initiated the coup will become President, acting as if they had been elected in the previous election. All actions occurring upon election of a president occur once a successful coup resolves.
Yea - logan5123
Nay - Ircher, StrangerCoug
Not Voting - Allomancer, Jake the Wolfie

Pending Motions

[logan5123]

VOTE: logan5124

407: All presidential nominees automatically vote for themselves in the general election phase of an election.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Ircher for president
VOTE: Yea 407

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Yea 407
VOTE: logan

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: No President

[Ircher]

That's not an option. Anyway,
VOTE: Logan

Logan is now our president.

[logan5123]

Here we go again.

[logan5123]

408: Any proposals that have lasted 96 hours after this proposal is approved or when they are proposed, whichever comes second, will be approved/denied early, depending on the votes. Proposals with an equal amount of YEA and NAY votes (hereafter referred to as "tied proposals") are NAYed. Timers on proposals through 408 are public, and can be seen by all players.

This is to prevent us forgetting about a proposal for a week.
It's also way too long, to prevent us from getting sniped by the timer. It should only come into play in really niche circumstances. (Such as when one player refuses to vote for whatever reason.)

[Ircher]

VOTE: Nay 408
I'd rather such proposals be denied.

[logan5123]

Ah yes, the patented strat of "just wait out the clock on proposals you don't like"
No dice, I'd say this'd encourage more activity.
Who knows though, maybe I'm wrong? Try the other version if this one fails.

[Ircher]

It is like pocket vetoing. You aren't strongly opposed, but you aren't really in favor. If you truly liked the proposal, you would vote yea. If you hated it, you'll vote nay. If you're somewhere in-between you'll abstain or not vote.

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Yea 408

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Nay with reservations 408

Amend it to adapt Ircher's suggestion and I'll sign on.

[logan5123]

eh fine.

Amend 408: Any proposals that have lasted 96 hours after this proposal is approved or when they are proposed, whichever comes second, will be denied.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Yea 408