Nomic: The Constitution Game - Game Over

[Jake The Wolfie]

VOTE: Nay with reservations 408

There is really no reason for this.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Yea 408
407 and 408 pass.

Logan is elected president. Please select your advisory board before you use your veto.
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Up to date as of post 526.

Pending Proposals

1.

Proposal 381

(381, 392) by logan5123: Motions may be extended with a majority vote. Extending a motion sets the countdown to a different amount than originally stated. The time of the extension is chosen in the extension request.
Yea - logan5123, Allomancer
Nay - Ircher
Abstain - StrangerCoug
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
(expired on 2020-04-19 21:25:00) time left.

2.

Proposal 383

(381) by logan5123: All players found to have violated rule 323, and their alternate accounts, are to be removed from the game. Players removed via this rule cannot rejoin under any account.
Yea - logan5123, Allomancer
Nay - StrangerCoug
Abstain - Ircher
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
(expired on 2020-04-19 21:25:00) time left.

3.

Proposal 388

(421) by logan5123: More than one president cannot be nominated in a party. Parties must vote on a president. Parties individually decide how they vote on presidential nominees.
Yea - logan5123, StrangerCoug
Nay - Allomancer
Abstain - Ircher
Not Voting - Jake the Wolfie
(expired on 2020-04-19 21:25:00) time left.

4.

Proposal 404

(499) by logan5123: A player cannot be nominated as president if it would cause all active players to be nominated for the presidency.
Yea - logan5123, StrangerCoug
Nay -
Not Voting - Ircher, Allomancer, Jake the Wolfie
(expired on 2020-04-19 21:25:00) time left.

5.

Proposal 406

(504) by logan5123: If no player gets an absolute majority in any given election, no President will be elected. The timer will still start as if a President had been elected, however no President will fill the spots and all actions done by a President either cannot be initiated or will not occur. If the game has no current President as a result of this occurring, a player may spend any positive amount of Reputation to stage a coup. Once a coup has been staged, all active players may spend half the amount of Reputation, rounded down, to cancel the coup. If it has been 24 hours and nobody has cancelled any given coup, the player who initiated the coup will become President, acting as if they had been elected in the previous election. All actions occurring upon election of a president occur once a successful coup resolves.
Yea - logan5123
Nay - Ircher, StrangerCoug
Not Voting - Allomancer, Jake the Wolfie
(expired on 2020-04-19 21:25:00) time left.

Pending Motions

[Ircher]

Proposal 409: A proposal automatically fails if half or more (rounded to nearest) of active players abstain on the proposal.

This should go right along with 408.

[logan5123]

VOTE: NAY 409 with reservations
Don't we already have a proposal like that.
Also:

Advisory board is Ircher, StrangerCoug, and Allomancer

[Ircher]

We did but it failed. I upped the requirement from 1/3rd to 1/2 of active players.

[logan5123]

wait it did?
hmm.
ok then.
VOTE: ABSTAIN 409
Also

410: Amend 405 to read: "A player may vote "[Yea/Nay/Abstain] with reservations" on any proposal made after this rule, which shall henceforth be known as a vote with reservations. A player who does so should, but is not required to, explain the reservations the player holds that prevent an unqualified vote. A vote with reservations is indistinct from a normal vote for the purposes of calculating the number of votes needed to [pass/fail] a proposal."

Credit 50% of 410 to StrangerCoug if possible, otherwise Credit 410 to StrangerCoug

Just adding abstain dmm

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Yea 409
VOTE: Nay 410 Yea with reservations and nay with reservations I get, but what difference do you intend there to be between a regular abstention and an abstention with reservations?

[Ircher]

VOTE: Nay 410
Same comment as what StrangerCoug gave.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Every time I'm not in the Advisory board, it makes me less and leass lilely to like the proposals that the President makes.

[logan5123]

Every time I'm not in the Advisory board, it makes me less and leass lilely to like the proposals that the President makes.

Every time you make a post like this (in both the spelling, grammar and general sense), it decreases the chance that I put you on my Advisory Board.

[logan5123]

Oh, and as for the reservations rule: there's really no difference for any of them, so I figured I would add abstaining to the mix in order to finish off the stack.

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Nay 410 Abstaining with reservations doesn't make sense. Abstaining already signals you have reservations in both directions

[logan5123]

Oh.
Well I tried.

[Ircher]

410 fails.
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Proposal 411: Players may not attempt to give away things they do not possess. This includes things like reputation, coins, cards, etc. Any player caught attempting to do this shall be penalized 1 reputation.

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Yea 411

[logan5123]

VOTE: YEA with reservations 411
This is already great but it doesn't actually cancel the attempt, just penalizes.
...I think. Might be wrong.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Yea 411

[Jake The Wolfie]

I mean, can you really give away negative Rep points?

[Ircher]

Nope see rule 342. But you raise a good point:

Proposal 412: Players may not transfer negative quantities of things to other players. Anyone attempting or succeeding in doing so shall be penalized 50 reputation and 100 coins. This penalty shall be applied retroactively.

I'll give 3 rep to Jake if this succeeds, but I'm not willing to give all of it away and credit it to him.

Also 411 passes.

[Jake The Wolfie]

I'm really tempted to create a poiint called "negative quantities of things"

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE: Yea 412

[Allomancer]

VOTE: Yea with reservations 412
I'm not a huge fan of applying it retroactively, but I don't think it matters at this point.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Proposal 413:

If any player has shown reservations within their vote on a proposal, their vote cannot lead to the passing or failing of that proposal until either the reservation is cleared up, or the last vote isn't a reserved vote.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Abstain 413

[Ircher]

If someone votes "Yea" to 409 (who isn't already voting yea), I'll give them 1 reputation.