BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

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You implied I was an anomaly to your transgressions to people calling you out on your bullshit. I'm saying, no, that's not true. You've been acting aggressively to literally every one who dare scum read you. It's a fairly strong tell iirc but people want to write it off. It's not on me anymore.

The cashapp thing was obviously a joke because I've yet to town read you since post one.

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I'll be around for deadline. Imma head out for now.

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Bailey lynch isn't fucking happening.

Move your votes.

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There is useable utility to his role. I've been hard newb!town reading him all game. I don't want to lynch either of them because that forces the night kill a little bit depending on interpretation, but I would be far more inclined to hammer RCE if I had to yes.

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I don't want to lynch either of them as in I've been town-reading them both fairly heavily since D1. The forcing the night kill thing is seperate and only really applies to George and even less so to sore feet, who we also aren't lynching, but I fucked that sentence up. So this is me clarifying that.

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I'm hanging back because these wagons are trash and I'm only hammering out of necessity. I'll be here.

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Literally already said why.

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Literally fucking did everything I could TWO DAYS AGO to avoid this, but hey, I was "freaking out" right?

This town is a joke.

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If we no lynch we have nobody to blame but half the fucking players for lurksacking. This shit isn't hard but y'all wanted to do fuck all for like a week and a half. You deserve this.

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VOTE: Michael Scott

Bringing up that George Beetlejuice'd when he did this to me twice in a row has been sitting poorly with me. Was gonna wait until D4 but if this can be a thing I'm game.

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You guys are fucking terrible.

VOTE: George Bailey

Cool gj he flips fucking cop and you dipshits are gonna be all OoOoH nOeS hE dIdNt ExPlaIn WeLl ThAt'S nOt On Me.

bottom of my heart go fuck yourself

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Is this supposed to be unlocked?

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Yo Mike we doing this or nah?

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HOW DID YESTERDAY END, MIKE.

YOU TELL ME.

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Me having to hammer someone I also called town because we had to lynch someone even though I knew there was something to his role, you mean?

It's cute that you're trying to magically turn that around somehow.

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I'm purposefully not opening those now because I don't want to be force replaced.

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Oh okay cool. Because I lied.

Conspire is conf-town, that's nice.

VOTE: RCEnigma

No reason not to believe dave didn't target someone he was scum reading at the end of yesterday.

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Not exactly, no.

Bailey lynch isn't fucking happening.

Move your votes.

I take this to mean that you would refuse?

Like I said before, I'm down for either RCE or GB.

He also suspected sore feet yesterday.

If we look at his reads from D1 to D2 I bet we'd find the clear though.

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Yeah, I agree with Expert. But I do think this though:

VOTE: sore feet

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He flat out asked sore feet if they got anything else.

100% dave shooting his shot again is something he would do.

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Nnnno...? We knew it was bastard D2 when he said it was bastard, though, so.

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I've already moved my vote son keep the fuck up.

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Maybe that's how he feels on the inside.

Having scum plastered across his forehead was too obv.

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Yeah we'll say Mike found it. :eyeroll:

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We've PoE'd it down to RCE or jjh we've got two weeks to see if we can't get this shit locked up and finished boys.

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Wait sore feet claimed to have sent something to jjh that "scum would need to work around." Fake action on partner, boys? Is it really that fucking simple?

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Did it start D2?

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LMAO HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE.

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Bros two conf!scum in one phase what even is this game rn.

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If it is then RCE won that one, eh? He's the only one left.

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...maybe.

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WAS IT SUPPOSED TO BE!?

(Why would that be my prize, mayne? I don't need that sweat.)

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chk, an inventor and a psychiatrist walk into a bar. The inventor says "I don't want to sound alarmist."

Get it?

Did you get this, chk?

-Cosmic

Mhm. Virus gimp though.

WAS IT SUPPOSED TO BE!?

(Why would that be my prize, mayne? I don't need that sweat.)

Maybe. Maybe not.

I just double-checked, guy. It's not sticky.

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If I could do literally anything at night I would've sent my N1 sticky to jjh so they could have 3 items.

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Maybe the sore feet claim? Nothing about this game makes sense.

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Yoooo wait. If what jjh is saying is true, and if what sore feet claimed for N1 is true, then dave must have targeted RCE N3?

UNVOTE: sore feet

This game is a fucking headache.

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Then, if that's confirmed, sore feet claimed to do something to jjh N1.

Unless they were completely full of shit which is possible.

VOTE: sore feet

Thank you for braining for me.

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Krazy, if I hadn't done that an umpteenth amount of times (confusing Conspire and Chronos) yesterDay I would press X to doubt. I was behind Fonz on feet yesterday but I didn't want to fight ol' davey about it tbh.

Let's get 'em. But let's at least

try

to make sense of all the madness that happened last night so we don't have a D3 repeat on D5, yeah?

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I'm 100% certain Conspire dies tonight because, y'know, confirmed town.

We could mass claim today? I'll even start. You can probably guess what I've done at night all Goddamn game.

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you what mate

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Uhhh... no?

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What the fuck is happening right now?

UNVOTE: sore feet

I just quickly went from trusting the lot of you to thinking I'm the fucking Kingmaker here.

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No, sir. I don't like it.

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That entire album is fucking gold.

Have you ever muted Wizard of Oz and synced the album to the movie? It's called Dark Side of the Rainbow or something like that. Creepy how in time they are with one another.

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Conspire
jjh
BTE
KK
Mike
VnM
Chronos?


Making

sore feet
RCE

The remaining scum in the game.

Occam's Razor, guys. It's right in front of us.

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But if it's two trading teams I'm gonna be pissed because the bottom of my list is all interchangeable in my head. And I still almost switched Conspire and Chronos for the conf!town slot.

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VOTE: sore feet

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I mean my role couldn't really get

worse

per se, so I don't mind being there. Prob Conspire is a good choice as well so we can let them win if it's neg ut so it'll just die with them. Idk?

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lmao xtoxm not putting themselves in a reads list means less than nothing. I don't do that shit either. It's arrogant and WIFOM to put yourself in your own fucking town reads.

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v/la mh break for a couple days.

Why is there a wagon on someone not in the game?

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Yeah that's really fucking stupid I'm not doing that.

Be back sporadically.

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If I have to wagon someone out-of-game to win I'm going to fucking campaign to have Boon lose modding experience and I'm not even fucking kidding.

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1. Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)
   No. -

Come again, Conspire?

I will say that when I got to the Creating Sign Up thread phase, I should have retroactively changed this.

However, everything I feel is in the Boonskiies level of analyzing, and a mechanical puzzle that can always be figured out, like the majority of my games.

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Name: DrEndgame (This, I imagine, comes from my addendum at the end of my picks being that the important part was that all my picks endgamed in town wins. Was still aggravated that I died early last game)
Picks: Klazam (BT 4), Formerfish (BT 8), DEB (BT 10)
Starting role: Basically Novice JoAT with other modifiers I cbf to go find rn (1-shot Gunsmith [even night only IIRC?], 1-shot Tracker, 1-shot Vanilla Cop [what the point of this was besides "lmao gfy" is beyond me])
Any changes to role: HAHAHAHAHAHA
Current inventory: A FUCKING virus, a sticky fruit, and a fruit
N1: HAHAHAHAHAHA
N2: HAHAHA
N3: HAAAAAAAA
N4: I can't even pass the items I have.

Novice + virus = I can go fuck myself, apparently. The reason I thought I had been changed to a survivor role was a small snippet at the end of my PM when I got the virus where Boon told me something about my picks and how the virus altered my role. Did not mention millerizing at all. He specifically used the word survivor and bolded it. I got a little, ahem, color blind at that point. I was a racecar in the fucking red after that.

I don't have the time or patience for this farce right now.

Last post for a while.

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My alignment didn't change. BTE, if town, is disloyal bc I'm millered, bc virus. Or he's loyal and jjh not getting fruit means he's scum? I don't give a shit to figure that out.

I don't understand, why can't you pass the items you have?

Did Boon confirm that the virus remains itemized?

It has to do with the novice modifier. To be fair, he might've meant I was basically novice for an additional night and that I couldn't pass them N2? I haven't looked back since I got the virus except when we clarified that I wasn't survivor.

The virus isn't an item but it's something I recieved. Just thought I'd remind people how angry I am about that fucking nonsense.

and a fruit

when did you get the regular fruit?

This has been covered. Yay.

With how much Titus has been fuckin with me, oh me oh my, this should be fun.

I got fruited as well, but mine doesn't protect me from night kills, so that's weird?

How did you know it didn't protect you from kills?

This has also been covered. Someone else mentioned it being kill-proof or something. I don't fucking remember at this point, that was ages ago, but if you look at it out of ISO I guarantee I was replying to someone so it should be there.

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VOTE: Chronos

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Yeah, it'd seem that way, wouldn't it?

What could possibly have made that happen?

HMMMMMMMMMM
HMMMMMMM
MMMMMMMMMMMMM
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Don't start acting like an idiot now, bud. It's unbecoming.

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I know it's fun to seem active, but it hasn't been 24 hours.

Timestamps are hard.

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Cool cool cool cool cool.

So we're going to waste 3/4 of the phase doing fuck all nothing again, yeah?

This is how town wins. glhf

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VOTE: RCEnigma

I'm most comfortable going this direction for now.

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Can't bank on that, friendo.

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Beetlejuice

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I saw that when it happened. If he won he wouldn't be here.

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How could he be an unjester and have already reached an alternate wincon? No.

RCE needs wagoning though.

Nice to see all I need to say is Bettlejuice and Mike shows up in under ten minutes. Much not coincidental. Very town-minded.

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

l2p

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If Gamma doesn't flip scum, I'd be surprised.

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I legitimately don't, but I don't like half of you for how little you've actually participated in this game so my goes about as far as it should there.

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so my word goes*

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BTE busfucking Chronos makes sense if his role can magically push us into lylo super early.

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Mm, no. I'm not town casing myself in the same vein that I don't say shit like "I'm town" in arguments. It goes against literally everything I said early game against Mars.

My picks were survivor townies. My "flavor" if you can call it that is about having the wherewithal to survive. I'm not repeating myself so you can feel good about me.

Pedit: I read the arson thing as this being a lylo situation. Am I completely making up something the moderator didn't say. I'm under a lot of home stress.

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You won't. No balls.

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Krazy want to:
-read my last content post
-go fuck yourself I'm sorting them

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Townies that have survived. As in townies that endgamed. I didn't pick roles, I picked players.

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I literally outlined all this in detail in my role claim.

Why haven't you done the same again?

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Conspire

is

Loved

.

Climax

An immense amount of Arcane power has emitted from underneath the ground.

We have entered a possible FINAL DAY situation. Anyone Loved or Hated will not have it affect them this phase.

If you're not reading this as "we're in lylo" you're reading it wrong.

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Seems the fish is...

*puts shades on*

...out of water.











YYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH

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Y'all are acting like we're not in lylo rn and it fucking shows.

Pedit: get off my fucking dick, homie. I claimed that already. Jesus Christ.

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Conspire

is

Loved

.

Climax

An immense amount of Arcane power has emitted from underneath the ground.

We have entered a possible FINAL DAY situation. Anyone Loved or Hated will not have it affect them this phase.

What about FINAL DAY situation tells you this isn't lylo?

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Possible final day not certainly final day

Right, which implies that if we don't lynch scum... what happens?

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WHAT ELSE IS A POSSIBLE FINAL DAY SITUATION

WHAT ELSE DOES THAT IMPLY

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YOU REALLY THINK BOON GOES "hey guys there's only one scum left lol so it's POSSIBLY the final day lmao" LIKE WHAT THE FUCK ELSE DO THE WORDS POSSIBLE FINAL DAY POSSIBLY PER CHANCE MEAN

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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Y'all are blissfully ignorant.

A moderator worth his fucking salt doesn't tell town there's one scum left that's outrageous.

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BTE seems more arson than scum.

RCE seems more scum than arson.

We should probably go BTE first tbh.

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VOTE: BooneyTunezExpert

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He seems likelier to be linked to the scum team than BTE.

Meaning if BTE is scum then he's 3p scum.

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I don't even know what to classify this as.

Confirmed arsonist?

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What are you implying this does?

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Oh, neat. And if you don't die, what happens?

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UNVOTE: BooneyTunezExpert

I don't see this as being anything but a very strange town role.

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VOTE: RCEnigma

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BTown join me on this RC wagon my dude.

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Well nobody else claimed to be getting them, so that confirms I didn't send mine.

Pedit: I honestly don't know tbh. I forgot to look.

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I just checked. Just me.

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You don't have to be. There's no alternative. Literally everyone but RCE has a clear of one sort or another. It was him or you and you just put the last puzzle piece down for why people thought your role was sus.

It has to be RCE unless I'm missing something here.

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And by people I mean me. I'm people.

I thought the fruit thing could be an arson effect and I was right, but the "they die instead" caveat is what makes you not 3p. Why wouldn't they just lynch you the next day? 2goofy4me.

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Mars, join me on this RC wagon for town victory.

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6000

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Mike wants it but fuck Mike. Pick me instead.

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Hahaha but fuck Mike. Oof.

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Mm yes good call.

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Oh look at that Krazy is

still

on my Goddamn dick.

Fucking shocking.

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I don't want to lynch Fish because it's pretty obvious it isn't a 3p role like I thought he had. 1) Having to activate it IN THREAD, though not outwardly mentioned as such, points to it not being 3p. 2) Not mentioning this quality of his role as a "gotcha" moment is anything but a 3p move. 3) Giving mafia a killing ability on top of their night kill makes them more OP than I'm willing to bet Boon went. This means that Fish isn't scum. This means Fish isn't 3p. This means that Fish HAS TO BE TOWN. And the only outlier left on everybody's mind is RCEnigma.

So, please, tell me again how not lynching an obviously self-cleared townsperson is somehow scummy. But try not to mention the fact that you've been backburning me this entire dayphase.

As a matter of fact, if RCE flips town it's pretty clear who the final mafia is.

Thanks for outing yourself, asshole.

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Seems like a lot of lipservice for solving, bud.

Solid back tracking tho top notch.

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btw the "If it isn't these two over here, then it's this one" is 100% setting up lynches and if you're town you need to fix the way you play mafia.

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But no one was lynched?

4 votes on RCE bro.

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lmao Krazy is hella mad bro.

so it's a bastard game with 6 scum in 17 players

When was rce lynched?

TECK-NICK-YULLY the setup was 12:4:1 with one town and one mafia linked with me in a way we could all pattycake if x y AND z happened. They just happened to happen. So.

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Chkflip was the one who got the most mad at this game behind the scenes

I was fucking livid bro.

Legitimately thought Vecna fucking completely gimped me. Not knowing what the hell "you can bury the hatchet with the sorcerer" meant, not having a damn night kill, and then you take away my useful abilities!?

I've never BEEN so furious at a game of mafia in my life.

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I thought Chk might turn on the Sorcerer’s, which would have been a fun play too.

I thought about it but I chickened out because I thought there was still a mafia left. Had I realized, or it'd been revealed, that Mike was also mafia I would've absolutely given it everything I had.

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First person who uses this as "why chk is scum" gets a high five because I played this exactly like I play every game of mafia, my alignment just happened to be different.

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People blacklist me? First I've heard of it.

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Pro tip: don't demean people by calling them shitty names while also calling your friends less shitty names. I will absolutely repeat this in a game again if I see it and I'm not even sorry. Treating people like shit because they don't fit your personal mold of "this is how mafia is plaued" is fucking terrible.

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Ah, not learning anything. Don't know what I expected there.

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So saying people are "worst of all time" and "bad town" while calling your friend "wrong town" is completely acceptable?

Good talk.

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The horse-sitting here is fucking laughable.

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Hi, my name is chkflip. I play to win. Thanks for playing.

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What part of "don't fucking insult people that aren't your friends, regardless of my alignment" aren't you getting?

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Ok continue to complain about people not listening as someone tells you you're toxic that literally has no skin in the game

This should be fun.

What about my play was toxic?

Caveat: it has to be something that Mars didn't also do.

Have fun with that one because spoiler alert it doesn't exist.

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Thank you.

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Cool story.

I'm still waiting for this magical list of people that have blacklisted me because I know for a fact that doesn't exist either.

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I'm hurt.

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You right, Fish.

Y'know, honestly, I'm mostly here to have a good time, but I would be a hypocrite if I didn't accept my own faults and make an effort to learn from them and grow as a person. Louis CK, in an episode of his self-titled television series "Louie" once said the following:

"When someone tells you you hurt them, you don't get to tell them they're wrong."

So, full disclosure, tell me what I did and I will NOT excuse it. I will NOT handwave you. I will take your critique, criticism, whatever you want to call it, and I will speak with you as to why I feel it happened in an effort NOT to explain away my behavior but instead to show you where I was coming from.

Katz, Mars, I give you both the floor. Please explain to me what exactly I've done and we can talk about it.

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That's fair. And someday I hope that maybe we can come to some sort of impasse but, much like Titus and Nero Cain, it may not happen. I accept either outcome.

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Do note that Chk wasn't groupscum; he was basically a nerfed SK for most of the game.

Nancy gives a shit about his alignment, I do not. His play was unacceptable regardless of alignment. That his attitude this game was plausible for town-him only reflects how unacceptable his townplay is generally. I am not blacklisting him exclusively because of this game but as aggregate of every game I've seen from him.

This is a 100% fair perspective. I kind of lost my gourd D2 and felt the need to, as you say, angle-shoot to keep up appearences. I've never been as condescending to an entire playerlist as I was here but it certainly is something I will keep in mind moving forward.

To be clear, being that level of asshole wasn't what I meant when I said I play like this regardless of alignment; however, I see and accept your point and will keep that in mind as I move forward on this site.

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That's also fair. It isn't that I'm not sorry, to be clear, there were several points I had meant to redact or otherwise word differently but didn't. My post-game point wasn't meant as an attack on your person, but again, no handwaving. Just because it wasn't my intention doesn't mean that it didn't hurt you personally.

I'm sorry.

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MM2 had a literal cult in it and zero people were upset about the outcome, Boon.

Think about that.

I think even if this were advertised as bastard, people of the town alignment still would've been pretty upset by the strangeness and imbalance of most of the setup.

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All very solid points.

I for one don't think mafia should win with us, at least.

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The only reason you feel like it was balanced is because you knew what each moving part could do. I'm not trying to be an asshole here, honestly, as I respect you as a moderator and don't think the overall design is too far off balance. There were just imo too many moving parts that, if town knew what they did, would've help them along the way and would've made the game feel more balanced.

But it's like jjh pointed out. Mafia lose all but one member over exactly half of the day phases and... still won. That's kind of ridiculous, no?

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I absolutely outed myself. Gambit worked like a charm.

Which is why I very charismatically got two town to sign their own death warrants. Tit for tat, brother.

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I think it boils down to too many unexplained moving parts and too many people either not understanding or not caring to understand what wasn't explicitly explained to them. Not knowing how your role works is detrimental and, what's worse, not being able to talk about parts of it muddles that water even further.

I also firmly stand behind mafia not getting the win here. Alternate win conditions fundamentally means that, since you had to destroy your team, they don't also get to win.

I feel like most of the playerlist was just on an episode of Punk'd and the only person laughing is Ashton Kutcher.

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I'm sorry, I just can't feel good about this win. The deck was stacked heavily in scum favor and that's just not okay to me.

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Isn't mountainous 11:2?