Open 775: Hard-Boiled Eggs [Game Over]

[Iconeum]

that's right

shenanigans have been called

[Iconeum]

meh maybe i'm just biased

literally my gut from seeing BM join that wagon

[Iconeum]

I'm going to go with my heart today, and

Vote: Tet

where did you make the switch from wanting to lynch Tet into sheeping Tet on his desired lynch? the lynch you specifically said you didn't want today IIRC

Ico - my gut is telling me no, my mind is telling me yes. Convince my gut that I can vote 72 again and I'm back to being bullheaded.

and the posts like these make me think we should just lynch hiraki - avoiding responsability for potentially changing his read/vote

I feel like this game hinges on Tet being town. If he's town, we've got a chance. If he's scum, we're screwed, because nobody else seems to have enough of a backbone to challenge him. 72offsuit - weak. Iconeum - super weak. Aloratom - solid but mostly on the sidelines.

I guess we have to lynch Hiraki then, but I won't be the hammer today!

Unvote, Vote: Hiraki

That's a begrudging L-1, old buddy, old pal

literal flares going off in my head every time i read this post, and considering these happened:

I'm toying with Tet as the right open today - probably need a re-read, and I see Aloratom has stolen my gimmick!

BM is now sheeping his scumread, the one he wanted lynched today

maybe Tet is scum, or maybe he is just bad town

ok so maybe not scumreading, but just town having bad reads. makes sense to sheep that, right?

And ftr, I am sheeping Tet again today. yesterday I said I was sheeping Madoka but ended up sheeping Tet and it worked out fine, so why not again?

@offset: Again, yes.. it did say I hadn't posted for a long time, but that "long time" included a NIGHT time. Like that's always the case at the start of a new day. All players had not posted for at least the duration of the night.

Anyway, I am not sure why scum!you hammers their scum p there, so I'm shelving my case on you for now.

you had a case on me?

sheeping people is dumb

I'm putting this out here in case i'm the one who dies tonight, and have ya'll remember to lynch this tomorrow if I can't push it through today

i'm not touching hiraki wagon with 2 of my 3 lynchpool on it, i don't think scum are eager to bus here

[Iconeum]

The lack of a counter-wagon is odd. I guess with esqy not voting it reduces the ability of a counter-wagon. I really hope this is a town-block game. If clidd/ata are scum then we were screwed anyway with the whacky start to this game

what about it?

[Iconeum]

ok i had to reread the context

that was our day 1 scumlynch in a newbie game, with a clear lack of counterwagon

[Iconeum]

Why dont you think scum bus here? Please explain. Its a scummy slot so scum looks bad for being offwagon if Hiraki is scum. If Hiraki is scum then from your PoV, only obe of me and BM could be scum so your " 2 of my 3 lynchpool on it" makes no sense. Do you think BM and myself are a likely team?

i don't think scum are eager to bus here, because they just lost one already. scum want to go to tomorrow with 2 because that's lylo
'scum being offwagon if player x flips scum looks bad' is a generic statement that applies to all scum lynches
i think BM is a lot scummier slot then hiraki tbh

i don't think it's exactly you and hiraki, you were on hiraki very early today with your push and i really really don't think that's a scum play

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So i dont get why u get bad vibes off that post. He has several other scummy posts but i don't feel that's one of them

the way he 'begrudginly' votes on a slot that he didn't wanna lynch today, because Tet (the slot that BM DID want to lynch today) is pushing there
it's not about the 'if tet is town' statement at all, it's about everything else in that post

'i guess we have to lynch hiraki then' -> from his PoV, why? Because his scumread Tet wants that lynch? And then sheeps his scumread that he pushed today? After calling A50 out for sheeping Tet?

I don't see how you don't get pinged from that

[Iconeum]

What DO you think I would do here as scum today?

i don't know you tell me?

[Iconeum]

He said Hiraki was scum or bad town.

that was about Tet, no?

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I myself sheeped DK on orange, when i thought orange was more likely town than scum.

that's fine, because it creates something of a townblock with DK being conftown and all

but sheeping a player you scumread is something else entirely

[Iconeum]

He said Hiraki was scum or bad town.

that was about Tet, no?

Ye, i meant tet

then BM is literally either sheeping someone he thinks is scum, or whom he thinks is just completely wrong. i don't townread either

[Iconeum]

What DO you think I would do here as scum today?

i don't know you tell me?

Im asking you the question. You are responding to a question with a question -_-

i'm not gonna pretend like i know the answer to your question, because i don't

[Iconeum]

back in my day, pagetops were all gifs and glitter

i miss the old days

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like, hiraki scum then i'm pretty sure you ain't for reasons stated

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In the case of Hiraki!scum the irony is not lost on me that you are proposing scum wouldn't buss today while defending Hirakis lynch.

On another note, I'll have to check who your Poe was to start the day but I think Hiraki was in it to begin with. Do you think Hiraki is town with bad reads? Also do you think they are a liability in a Mylo or lylo situation even if town?

My lynchpool was BM/72/Hiraki

I argued with 72 quite a bit, and I think his reads flip flopping proooobably comes from town more often then scum
Bm is still way up there and his play today has changed exactly nothing except cement my scumread on him. If he didn't make that vote I probably wouldn't have spoken out against hiraki lynch.

Because every way I look at this, if we don't lynch hiraki today, he gets lynched tomorrow. Every time.

@Tet, how likely do YOU think scum are going to give up their last partner here, even if as 'burned' as hiraki (assuming yada yada)

I'm aware of Hiraki's Association to Allomancer, it was cased previously. I don't disagree with it.

[Iconeum]

Overall like, if you don't feel Hiraki is flipping scum then the next highest suspect is 72 and there are multiple reasons.

I want to comment on this, but i'm not sure that will lead us to a helpfull conclusion. Do you know what I mean?

[Iconeum]

2.) Ico can you look through Allomancers iso? There are 3 major takeaways fmpov. One of which involves BM day 1 and day 2 in some capacity. One should be obvious and the last one I'll give a pass on because it's vague and your townreads have to align a certain way to come to the same solution.

I think i've already done something like this to show why BM is Allo's partner

reading that, it feels a long shot that the scumteam is BM + hiraki here
Allo's 72 hard townread is there, sure
Allo voting for BM is pretty NAI, could be scum trying to push something, or creating distance from a buddy knowing he probably gets lynched anyway

Yeah i'm really not sure what you (Tet) are trying to make me see here other then BM=scum

[Iconeum]

reading that, it feels a long shot that the scumteam is BM + hiraki here

and this, plus BM's very awkward vote switch to wagon on hiraki plus his terrible vote switch on allomancer and everything else really make me uncomfortable about lynching hiraki here even tho I know that it's probably the best lynch anyway

[Iconeum]

i think he already did that tho, i asked it way before

[Iconeum]

scratch that, i asked him the opposite and he replied to: why townread allo if his iso makes you scumread him

[Iconeum]

yo looker i see you online and posting

join the party

[Iconeum]

BM may be one of the two scum, but I'm more confident in a Hiraki lynch today. Ico, you say that you see Hiraki getting lynched tomorrow regardless of BM's flip today, right? So why not flip Hiraki today?

i think i've made myself pretty clear on the why despite thinking that yes

[Iconeum]

Fine

VOTE: Hiraki

[Iconeum]

we play this game at different levels/points of approach

[Iconeum]

A50 man, your iso is utter shit:

In post 420, Almost50 wrote:
DkK can decide on whether he wants to visit me tonight, since my "noobness" seems to strikes the wrong chords in his system.



Why you trying to fish the hider to visit you on Night 1?

BM, can you compare this 'fishing the hider' post to this please:

In reality, I think it's hard to read too much into this yet - probably worth picking this up tomorrow, or at least when we know what Allomancer is - who knows, maybe Dkkoba can confirm him as town?

Why were you trying to bait the tracker onto scum?

[Iconeum]

scratch that i'm still drunk from the early hours - i'll get back here when i've had my coffee

[Iconeum]

VOTE: bm

Weekend vla

[Iconeum]

Already two votes on 72 witbm among it...

Why?

[Iconeum]

Or is it just bm and 72,bussing and playing late game?

[Iconeum]

Interesting

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Tet said 72 was scum, and he flipped tracker. You were ok clinging onto his ass yesterday when you didn't know he was town, why do you suddenly think you can't trust him now?

Don't worry, we're 100% lynching you next.

Ur acting like thé tracker has a guilty on 72

[Iconeum]

If that's geur then het would have pushd that lynch and not a town

[Iconeum]

For the record, if it wasn't for the tracker flip, I'd be lynching the monkey today. Aloratom and Almost50 prob town. 72offsuit and Iconeum probscum.

Vote: 72offsuit

If 72 is town, and I die tonight, for goodness sake lynch Iconeum tomorrow please.

Bm are you serious here?

[Iconeum]

At everyone this is mulo

If 72 is town and we lynch town thé game is over

Don't let bm fool you here

Do thé math

[Iconeum]

Phone Su typo are real

[Iconeum]

72 gun in hand who is scum?

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For the record, if it wasn't for the tracker flip, I'd be lynching the monkey today. Aloratom and Almost50 prob town. 72offsuit and Iconeum probscum.

Vote: 72offsuit

If 72 is town, and I die tonight, for goodness sake lynch Iconeum tomorrow please.

Bm are you serious here?

I am 100% totally serious here. If I die tonight, you MUST be lynched tomorrow. Obviously if I don't die, then I can lynch you myself.

Scum slip. Lynch this.
If he dies and game continues it means he scum because if bm town game ends

[Iconeum]

No you said if you die, lynch me tomorrow

That means you know game doesnt end upon your lynch because if we hit town game end

It literally means ur scum

[Iconeum]

Oh I see what you mean by tonight lol

[Iconeum]

Ur still scum tho
@allo @a50 you guys down with lynching bm? We need all town together or scum has to bus

[Iconeum]

Ur still scum tho
@allo @a50 you guys down with lynching bm? We need all town together or scum has to bus

your scumbuddy allo is already dead.

There is another allo

[Iconeum]

VOTE: 72

[Iconeum]

[Iconeum]

Thanks guys I'll take it

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About as decisive a win for scum as I can remember.

Tbh when we woke up we could smell the coffee

[Iconeum]

Beautiful use of distractions

Ico = REDEEMED

Finally

[Iconeum]

We got lucky with the hider and madoka
And we got the psych night 1
Pinned the tracker n3

[Iconeum]

• Hiraki tunneling and not responding to me
  
• Aloratom never lynching
  
• BM's playstyle
  
• Madoka's obsession with me
  
• People questioning my scumreading of the monkey and townreading him for no reason (still don't know how he "redeemed" ejji's slot)
  
• Two lose-lose leading lylo wagons

I never had a chance

Bm quicklynching before hider outed result was funny as well

[Iconeum]

About as decisive a win for scum as I can remember.

Tbh when we woke up we could smell the coffee

Haha I was clutching at straws at the end!

You guys had me worried day 2 tho damn

[Iconeum]

Thanks a50 it's more fun playing with you when are both scum lol

Thanks for taking the buss, allo
It really helped

[Iconeum]

Look mom I finally have a a decent scum win

[Iconeum]

Tet had put looker as tracker into my head but a50 pinned Tet as tracker mostly

No redactions for me