Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

[GuiltyLion]

Auro and Skit for Molla/Rex, actually, would be even better

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: nom

[Auro]

Of course it's townie. They see suspicion on them, see town deliberating over wagon composition, readily volunteer to be in the bloc. Cop checks are weighted random. His volunteering actually *increases* the chance he'll be in the bloc. It's a rather unnecessary move, with a bad cost.

As scum I'd expect him to attempt to get townread from kicking up solving, etc if that makes sense

[Auro]

I'd personally rather just lynch Nom today, highest scum equity

[skitter30]

sorry, i don't see it, i think that scum can say that too there

like i'm not saying that town can't
i just think that town would for the reason you would, and i can see scum saying it too in order to highlight that they don't mind being offwagon, it gives them some easy townpoints imo

[Auro]

Gives townpoints and? Town's more likely to just chuck them in the copbloc for convenience if they're taking that risk upon themselves, sure.

[Auro]

I'm specifically saying town's likelier to say that than scum would for townpoints. Anyway, it's relatively minor; I discourage a Karnage lynch. I don't think the "reading it as joke" thing has much weight either.

[skitter30]

i thought the joke thing was pretty bad too, it at the very least indicates he's not reading carefully because nom was pretty emphatic about it being serious

[acryon]

Hi GL, what's your current read on acryon? I don't think you've mentioned him since 509. Is he still your strongest townread, and can you share your thoughts on his recent posts?

- Smarter

I dunno about 'strongest' towered but I do TR him still and am fine with him being on any wagon. I think the re-evaluation on Allo was much like my own, and the evolving suspicion towards Karnage/nom felt pretty organic too. I realize in writing this out that I'm again giving town credit for mirroring my own reads, but absent any flips so far I don't really have a strong reason to re-evaluate on him in particular.

One thing I don't like (since your post here) is the default back to lynching Allo again - the reasons I have for not wanting to lynch Allo make him a really bad choice of wagon/lynch at deadline here. I thought acryon shared those reasons but now I'm guessing not...

VOTE: nom
i thought about it some more and her push on me is awful and i think she's fully capable of making the sorts of posts she made last night as scum

my townread on karnage has all bu evaporated, and i'm kinda starting to see some nom/karnage vibes

i'm confused why we're going back to an eve/allo paradigm

My main reason for being back to Eve/Allo was because of time. I'm unavailable starting 24 hours or so from now, so the daytime remaining is very tight for me.

Given this recent momentum, I think a lynch on nom is possible. I'd be on board with that if we can get it done by tomorrow.

[skitter30]

ok can i interst you in voting there then @acryon?

Unofficial VC by Smarter

Allomancer - rex
Eve - nom, acryon, 1/0
karnage - allomancer
Nom - eve, skitter, gl

Not voting - karnage, bbmolla, auro

this is what the current vc looks like now i think
(this isn't a quote i just pulled a quote of the last one smarter made and adjusted it per the votes that were made since then, to clarify)

[acryon]

Well my problem right now is that the only people currently voting there are all people I have scumread at some point. So I think I'd like to hear from some of the abstainers.

[skitter30]

do u currently scumread those people?

also mariar said that if nsg doesn't show up by tomorrow-ish she'll arrange for a backup mod, just fyi

[acryon]

do u currently scumread those people?

Eve - Yes
You - Not sure
GL - No

[Auro]

Lynches will occur when a majority (>50%) is reached. If no majority is reached before deadline, the player with the most votes will be lynched.

So we can have a single vote plurality "wagon" with no one else voting, thus making virtually anyone coppable?

[skitter30]

lol that would be pretty cool
i'm pretty sure that's an unintended loophole tho, but i'm sure nsg can clarify if/when she gets back

[acryon]

Auro breaking the game.

[Auro]

I think it's less fun wrt the spirit of the game abusing this anyway, but we do need some modification to deadline lynching then; prolly could use an extension/pause till she comes back I guess.

I don't like setups where town are OP, making scum not even try to play.

[nomnomnom]

Can we just lynch eve/bbmolla and move on to next day?
I just can't be assed responding to anything really, we aren't making progress without a flip at this point
VOTE: Eve
VOTE: Eve
VOTE: Eve

[nomnomnom]

With that said it's funny that people are THIS scared of my scumgame that they're ready to reference everything I said in scum PTs in the past
However you guys fail to realize that I'm just town with an agenda of trying to advance my own reads, really.

[GuiltyLion]

can you explain why you'd rather reverse on your lynchbait townread of Eve instead of considering at all the possibility that Karnage might be scum here? What do you think of him defending you by saying you were joking when you accused skit of slipping?

[nomnomnom]

Because I don't think Karnage is scum. It's that simple.

[GuiltyLion]

and you think Eve is?

[nomnomnom]

Possibly yes, at least eve!scum makes more sense than karnage!scum.

[northsidegal]

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[northsidegal]

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