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Or, you know, we can just be coronabuddies
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No im townreading you for it, because you looked at both sides of the possibilitiesIn post 37, Nero Cain wrote:
Are you scum reading me?In post 34, Vecna wrote:Nero cain especially with his reservation afterwards due to setup weirdness
you realized it was something scum often do early, but then added some relativism by seeing how town would also do it.
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Get out, youIn post 39, Auro wrote:
Wouldn't infecting each other mean we are then coronabuddiesIn post 30, Vecna wrote:Or, you know, we can just be coronabuddies
Vecna/Nero Cain TvT and I encourage it!Nero Cain wrote:What if ETL/Miss Lynch is just TvT and scum Vecna is sitting back and just trying to encourage it? 34 was p odd.- Vecna
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Also, scum often get very defensive about these things, while town will realize that scum would also try to fake it.In post 36, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Come on yall. I'm so scummy for asking a legit question? This is what mafia is all about. Bring it on, and then in a few days we can watch the actual scum fumble around for an explanation about it.
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That is correct. Much rather observe a bit first and see how it developsIn post 42, Nero Cain wrote:
wheres that etl vote if you think this?In post 34, Vecna wrote:because all the points they make are quite good, and such public displays of "townyness" are often faked
not really sure what this says.In post 34, Vecna wrote:Nero cain especially with his reservation afterwards due to setup weirdness
you approve of a 1v1 but you aren't using your vote to pick a side?In post 34, Vecna wrote:I can only approve of such
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Like, holyshit, this is the best page2 stuff ive seen in quite a long timeIn post 43, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
I didn't say I had no response. I said the mod declined to provide an answer. At the time I posted the question, I hadn't gotten a reply yet.In post 40, Miss Lane wrote:Why tell everyone you asked the question at all if you had no response?
.... I'm not sure you're qualified to make this judgement, considering I know my alignment, I know I'm town, therefore in my eyes, this statement is blatantly false and makes me think you are either a) scum making shit up on purpose in order to create a case out of thin air or b) just a bad town player.In post 40, Miss Lane wrote:There is no part of this statement that comes from an optimal town mindset.
It's not actually "OMGUS-y bullshit" and saying so is a really thinly veiled attempt to discredit my original argument, which is that you are forcing nonsense into a bad case in order to backup your original vote that had nothing until I continued to post. Real town cases aren't built that way. You collect the evidence FIRST, and THEN you build the case, not the other way around.In post 40, Miss Lane wrote:OMGUS-y bullshit do you legitimately think is town?- Vecna
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Im pretty sure its not scum theater at least. ML looking pretty good in all thisIn post 44, Miss Lane wrote:
It is specificallyIn post 36, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Come on yall. I'm so scummy for asking a legit question? This is what mafia is all about. Bring it on, and then in a few days we can watch the actual scum fumble around for an explanation about it.notasking the question that is scummy. This is not even close to an accurate representation of my stance on you, and the fourth post you've made this game that reeks of dishonesty.- Vecna
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Yes, the switch from "aggrevated because they cant see my brilliance" to "oh were doing this? this could be fun" seems decent.In post 47, Auro wrote:
I like EspeciallyTheLiesIn post 46, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Yes actually.In post 41, Miss Lane wrote:ETL seems to be enjoying it
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Every game deserves a votecount like this. This is magic
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In post 57, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Seems like oblivious town, has a newbie vibe, I'd even guess English may not be first language. Non-zero chance of being inexperienced scum but at the moment I'm gonna risk guessing that most if not all of the people who have posted thus far are probably town.In post 54, Nero Cain wrote:talk to me about Vecna, ETL.
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Yep, agreedIn post 61, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
I love this post. 1 because Nero is specifically seeking out responses from other people about a slot he's suspicious about, and 2 because whether intended or not, I was started to get heated and this pulled me away for a moment. Scum don't do that. Even scum who know me don't do that. They let me continue to get aggravated and noise-dump in the thread.In post 54, Nero Cain wrote:talk to me about Vecna, ETL.
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LOL this shit is hilarious. I get semi-insulted and the other person feels pissed off because they think its directed at them.In post 70, Miss Lane wrote:
This isn't a response to the statement made.In post 49, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Because the goddamn rules say don't ask questions about a myriad of things??? I even explained why I phrased it that specific way...In post 44, Miss Lane wrote:
It is specificallyIn post 36, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Come on yall. I'm so scummy for asking a legit question? This is what mafia is all about. Bring it on, and then in a few days we can watch the actual scum fumble around for an explanation about it.notasking the question that is scummy. This is not even close to an accurate representation of my stance on you, and the fourth post you've made this game that reeks of dishonesty.
You didn't ask a question. That's the problem.In post 53, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
"reeks of dishonesty"In post 44, Miss Lane wrote:This is not even close to an accurate representation of my stance on you, and the fourth post you've made this game that reeks of dishonesty.
my dude... that's how I see it. I asked a question, you jumped down my asscrack.
You claimed that you are town, therefore I must be making shit up to claim that your play is not optimal town. Stop evading, and if you legitimately think that the originally quoted post is optimally town, say so instead of giving me bullshit and trying to discredit me.In post 55, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
what the fuck are you even talking about... I never said any of that. I guess what I should have said was who the fuck are you to tell me what is optimal town play?In post 52, Miss Lane wrote:If you think that you "knowing" you are town makes any mindset other than yours fail to be the optimal town mind set, you make the argument that you are optimal town and the optimal town approach is taken by you. I can go very much into why this is not the case, particularly because I highly doubt any player on site manages to maintain an optimal town mindset throughout the entirety of any game or even manages to maintain such stubborn insistence that their approach is optimal and anyone claiming otherwise must be scum.
Why am I not surprised that you again try to discredit me as a player and a person instead of responding legitimately to anything I've said yet?In post 57, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Seems like oblivious town, has a newbie vibe, I'd even guess English may not be first language. Non-zero chance of being inexperienced scum but at the moment I'm gonna risk guessing that most if not all of the people who have posted thus far are probably town.In post 54, Nero Cain wrote:talk to me about Vecna, ETL.
English is, in fact, my first language, and I'm not failing to understand a word you're saying. I'm not the one who continually fails to respond in good faith. I have been on site playing mafia since 2014. I have more than three pages of games on at least two of my accounts. I have four publicly revealed accounts that I switch between on a regular basis. I am currently running a mafia game of my own. I have not been mislynched in years except for one game where a certain newer player failed to check to see whether or not the most recent vote count had put me at L-1 and no one claimed L-1 in the thread. I am in no way a "newbie."- Vecna
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Yeah, thats the good shit, eh?In post 72, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:In post 65, Vecna wrote:little oneLMFAO
*sigh* I think i need to take a break already lol.. I promised myself I would remain calm.- Vecna
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Yes, good point neroIn post 84, Nero Cain wrote:This is my 6th game with Vecna. He read me as scum in our first 4 games. I was town in all of them. So I dunno if Vecna is really going to be able to town read me here. Its like how Pirate Mollie (if anyone remembers her) would always scum read me as town and town read me as scum.
Farside asking me about my read on ETL but not asking ML also felt a lil' odd.
These have been rando thoughts with Nero Cain.
If at any point I get suspicious about you in this game, PLEASE PLEASE
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EEEEWIn post 83, farside22 wrote:meh I'm reading miss lynch and I think it's a bit more then it is from post 52. It took a molehill and turned it into a mountain. I don't think she is scum. I like her approach to the game.
sigh lots of arguing about who has a town thought process.
You know people everyone has a different idea what what is a town thought process.
And with my final thoughts I think they are both town, need to kiss and make up and move on.
I'm going to bypass this argument at this point.
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I know, I just added the semi-insulted part to captivate the hilarity of miss lynch taking that shit personalIn post 91, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
It wasn't meant as an insult at all. Nero asked what I thought and I gave my impression based on the posts in the thread at that time. Your first few posts were difficult to understand, the sentences didn't seem complete, which is why I considered the language difference as a possible reason. Your observations appeared to be surface level, thus the newbie call. I see your join date is 2016 now, but I didn't at the time. *shrug*In post 86, Vecna wrote:I get semi-insulted- Vecna
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I think you'll find I always did that at the start of our games Nero. I actually like you as a player, and I think your reads on average are pretty decent.In post 94, Nero Cain wrote:
I actually have a hot air popper and organic popcorn seeds that will taste much better than the microwaved shit ya'll eat.In post 75, Vecna wrote:Nero just jealous cause he aint got no popcorn
but this is odd to me, why are you trying to be jokey and friendly with me?
My suspicion tends to get the better of me way too often, because I also know youre a scary scum player.
This game I know I have the correct gut-pings right on the first page, and im not gonna let that shit happen
Now, dont get all suspicious because im trying to pocket you or whatever, that is not the case. I know for a fact ive stated these things in previous games, where I still ended up majorly suspicious afterwards.- Vecna
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They seemed to be enjoying themselves, no? So, I dno, if they feel like it.In post 97, farside22 wrote:
Hey I'm the player that typically argues for pages and pages. I know how it can be bad it can be to the game state.In post 93, Vecna wrote:
EEEEWIn post 83, farside22 wrote:meh I'm reading miss lynch and I think it's a bit more then it is from post 52. It took a molehill and turned it into a mountain. I don't think she is scum. I like her approach to the game.
sigh lots of arguing about who has a town thought process.
You know people everyone has a different idea what what is a town thought process.
And with my final thoughts I think they are both town, need to kiss and make up and move on.
I'm going to bypass this argument at this point.
look at this person trying to stop the fun
Why would you want it to continue?
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Ok, you guys can stop now. I thought you were actually enjoying the little banter, but this is going overboard for no reason whatsoever.
ETL - You had a valid question to something most town are probably wondering.
ML - Had a valid gut instinct that doing it so apparently and open could be scum trying to appear inquisitive towny
There really is nothing more to this argument. There are no shitty cases. Both POV's are valid. This is the obvious case of TvT.
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Auro, you really are my type of person!In post 162, Auro wrote:
I was watching an episode of Never Have I Ever with a friend.In post 109, Vecna wrote:Where the fuck did Auro go?
Id fully expect town-him to be here and be jolly and happy alongside me. Instead he just went poof.
scumread. SCUMREAD
I like it, I recommend
I've been on some serial binge of serials for a few days apart from work. Westworld, The Expanse, Never Have I Ever, new Rick and Morty eps, new Billions season... lots to watch.
Ive binged the full season last week. That shit was seriously awesome
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Yeah.....this shit is gonna fuck with me bigtimeIn post 174, Auro wrote:Townreads on farside, EspeciallyTheLies, Miss Lynch, Vecna.
Alchemist you wanna try and explain what feels off in Vecna's tone? I find certain elements almost exactly matching his play in the last game I've seen him town in, like somewhat exaggerated reasoning to townread someone early.
This wasn't the approach I thought I would see people would take in the game though, considering it's basically a bastard cult game.
alignment changes? oof
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Theres alignment changes in this gameIn post 210, Nero Cain wrote:
????In post 204, Vecna wrote:Scratch the shit I told you Nero, hypersuspicion is back on the menu
So youre town now, but you might not be tomorrow
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The fact this even needs to be explained in the context I said it....In post 224, Nero Cain wrote:in fairness, I don't think its a "slip" I think he's just saying that he's town reading me now.
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I think you are just as suspicious by nature as me, so trying to buddy you as scum would be a serious strategic mistake.In post 227, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, he could still be scum that's hard buddying me but yeah...
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I have no reason to rock the boat if the people being observed are likely townIn post 248, Tchill13 wrote:
this just pings me. Seems like the "realization" would make him seem more town. He defended ML but never pushed ETL. Waited till the end to call that TvT.In post 204, Vecna wrote:
Yeah.....this shit is gonna fuck with me bigtimeIn post 174, Auro wrote:Townreads on farside, EspeciallyTheLies, Miss Lynch, Vecna.
Alchemist you wanna try and explain what feels off in Vecna's tone? I find certain elements almost exactly matching his play in the last game I've seen him town in, like somewhat exaggerated reasoning to townread someone early.
This wasn't the approach I thought I would see people would take in the game though, considering it's basically a bastard cult game.
alignment changes? oof
Scratch the shit I told you Nero, hypersuspicion is back on the menu
Seems to have sprinkled in playful banter with auro and nero.
very easy sailing on vecna's ship atm. Some would say he's just riding the wave. Not rocking the boat.... (out of boat euphemisms)
Also, if you look at the order of my catchup, I did call that shit TvT very early. As soon as the attacked party said "oh this will be kinda fun and interesting" the townread bells went a-ringin- Vecna
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Is it common for you to not go look at the ruleset when someone makes a statement like that?In post 267, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:How do you know how many scum there are? It's a 21 player game, I think town would guess at least 4 or 5, yet you somehow come up with exactly 3?
Because some would construe this as a classic attempt to townslip, which makes for the second thing you did that silly scum do all the time to get people to townread them.
This is mainly in jest, because theres no point for you to do this at this point, but cmon now.
Be a bit less biased towards the things im saying please. Im actually town- Vecna
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Like, you go and ask the mod questions about win conditions, knowing there is a conversion mechanic and an alternative town wincon, but then you do the thing where we have to believe you are unaware of the strange numbers? And then go make a fuss about it without that seeming completely natural to you after you've become aware there are alignment changes because scum can convert townies?In post 270, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:OK. I'm an idiot. I didn't see that. Please disregard.
Hmmm.
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And this is why ML looked even townier in the initial interactionIn post 271, Miss Lane wrote:It just seems strange that the player who read all the general rules missed the setup information.- Vecna
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I know bud, I knowIn post 309, Tchill13 wrote:
UNVOTE:In post 284, Vecna wrote:
And this is why ML looked even townier in the initial interactionIn post 271, Miss Lane wrote:It just seems strange that the player who read all the general rules missed the setup information.
It was mainly to see what would happen. I liked what I seen.
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look at you big boy trying to troll me hard. not biting budyIn post 392, Hoctac wrote:VOTE: Vecna
Fine, I never liked people with anime avatars anyway. It's manipulative.- Vecna
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oh yes, here goIn post 394, mastina wrote:Quick question; is this a game everyone is treating dead seriously or is it a game people are kinda going to meme about and not take too seriously? Asking because it makes a difference in how much effort I put in. I kinda assumed this game was the latter and am going in with that expectation, but if it's the former I'll need to shape up and put some more work in.
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How is reading the setup more work that writing this post and reading replies?In post 390, Saudade wrote:btw i didnt read the game/setup details, is this a scum vs town or scum vs town vs zombies(infected) or something?
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I think its the exact opposite and he's a bit too aware actuallyIn post 452, Flavor Leaf wrote:Note to self, Hoctac is extremely not self aware.- Vecna
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The real question is if she did it because she knows me and Auro might be expecting the same silly start as double mafiaIn post 463, davesaz wrote:I feel like mastina's reads are mostly made up, and the stated level of seriousness is a lie.
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People thinknig fence-sitting is bad are usually champions of making terrible arguments.In post 472, davesaz wrote:
Many people would see such behavior as "fence sitting".In post 60, Vecna wrote:you realized it was something scum often do early, but then added some relativism by seeing how town would also do it.
I heartily approve of nuance in posting. "Scum would often do X but sometimes town does X too" isnotfence sitting, it's giving useful nuance by shading it like 75% gray instead of black. Calling that fence sitting is lazy at least, and disingenuous scum at times.
Bottom line I think the quote is fine, and it's a good reason to give someone town points. (in this case Vecna giving Nero points IIRC)
If someone actually goes ahead to give thoughts from multiple angles you have more material to work with and gauge whether their thoughts are genuine and accurate. Distinguishing between when it comes from scum and town is one of the best sources of reads, if done properly (which often is not the case).- Vecna
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Nero, why is your memory of me so poor. Trying to get serious reads from the first few pages is something I will always try. Its by far the best place to get accurate game-long reads for me in a lot of situations.In post 479, Nero Cain wrote:
just your read on him. I'm a little worried that he was buddying me and he's town reading me for the first time ever. He say's he normally treats me like that but I just don't really remember that and I'm too lazy to look.In post 474, davesaz wrote:Was there anything in particular you're interested in?
Shouldn't that be a reason to suspect him a bit?In post 474, davesaz wrote:Generally Vecna seems more reasonable than what I expect from the first 3-4 page-downs in iso,- Vecna
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This alt mix thing clearly has too low a volume of JJD in it. Entertain me some A50. cmon nowIn post 491, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
You should be a constant not a variable to yourself, unless you are expecting your alignment to be switched during the course of the day. I mean, play according to your current alignment and eat the rope already.In post 383, Saudade wrote:No i am also a variable in itself because I interact with the other 20 variables
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Id have been very suspicious of mastina if she wasnt scumreading you.In post 492, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:
Even as scum, I don't fake feelings. I feel what I feel, and you of all people should know better than to post this. You have even said in other games where you were actually town, that my emotions are NAI, so now suddenly it is? BS. This is how I know you're scum. When you try to twist what you know of my meta in order to convince people who don't that what you're saying is correct when you know it isn't. << That's the kind of shit that makes me angry.In post 485, mastina wrote:I know ETL AtEs as both alignments and her AtE this game didn't feel town at all; it felt particularly 'fake', for lack of a better word--maybe overblown would be better? In that I have little doubts ETL felt emotions, but her posting here felt like it was overplaying them, for lack of better terminology. Forcing the feelings, I guess you could say.
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Did we think that though? Im pretty sure neither me nor Auro actually thought soIn post 497, Elements wrote:
this is blatantly not true or not so many people would think you're scum no?In post 495, mastina wrote: This has been, by far, one of the most obvtown games of mine all year; I literally never get more obviously town than I am this game.- Vecna
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Is it just me or do the attempts at humor/semi-trolling from this account feel forced and not very natural? Or is it just because its nowhere near funny?In post 509, Null Vote wrote:Sorry, no one here knows the 5G conspiracy. I have already tested it.- Vecna
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Now, FL, this is a much better example of a person that is extremely not self-awareIn post 513, Alchemist21 wrote:I still hate mastina’s scumread on me but I don’t really get the wagon on her. - Vecna
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