Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over

[brassherald]

You're at like L-3, not really near a flip right now.

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #15

Umlaut (0):
clidd (0):
Hoctac (1): Quick (466)
Zulfy (0):
Persivul (0):

Ragman Saul Rima (4) (L-3): Persivul (172), Reundo (190), LuckyLuciano (358), Umlaut (463)

valoneast (0):
brassherald (0):
LuckyLuciano (1): Zulfy (38)
farside22 (0):

Quick (5) (L-2): Hoctac (135), SirCakez (292), Ragman Saul Rima (405), farside22 (411), brassherald (413)

SirCakez (0):
Not Voting (2): valoneast (274), clidd (381)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 19, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-19 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1. If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2. This game will use a combination of manual and automated votecounts. (The automated ones are made using MathBlade's Vote Scrubber.) I will mainly start by posting an automated votecount and then edit in a manual one later. This allows me to spot errors in the automated votecount as well as build the voting history for the game.
3.

Please note the prod timers. You will be prodded after 32 hours on Tuesday-Friday.

4. Quick replaces Klick.
5. Seeking a replacement for Persivul.

[Ircher]

Ame replaces Persivul.

As a general notice, my rules request that players do not discuss replacements for any reason.

[brassherald]

TMW you steal the page top, by mistake

[farside22]

I assume the hard disagree is with this:

I think if Klick were going to fake a read list they would fake some scum reads while they were at it, not post one with basically everyone neutral at worst. Faking reads isn't really such a tremendous difficulty for scum as people act like it is.

I guess we just disagree on this then. I can't exactly point to anything to argue the point but I'm not going to scumread someone for having a hard time finding suspects in the early game when that's most of my town games ever.

That was it. Well i looked at klicks meta, he knows how to find scum just find. Ill get links if it help.

I cant say im a fan of his thought process on hotoc and i dont recall how he felt about that in the past.
I do remember it was a peeve of some plays in the past when player fake claim shit.

I have a long history of being against fake claiming.

My Persivul read is airtight. He jokingly hand-waived a wagon on him - bad sign.

Oh do tell, what's the town way to respond to a page 1 L-2 wagon?

He tried not to look serious about a RVS wagon on him and then suddenly turned serious on me.

OK, explain what I was supposed to do between not taking a RVS wagon seriously, and then posting seriously? What kind of transition do you require there from town?

Okay, I changed my mind.

VOTE: Hoctac

Oversensitive newb scum at its finest.

He doesn't have any newbies, so more likely an experienced player hiding behind an alt.

I played Mafia once before.

Why didn't you play newbie games here?

This is the second opportunity since I've joined the site for a D1 lynch. Make it happen people! (I will not be posting for the rest of page one, in order to support the cause.)

Why do you want a page 1 lynch?

VOTE: LuckyLuciano

I didn't like the way he hopped onto the wagon (though I couldn't really put my finger on why not), and I don't like this last post.

This is a decent post for that stage of the game.

I don't even need to read these posts to TR them.

BTW, did I mention Hactoc needs to die?

Thats completelt NAI. It was just an rvs wagon any player worth their salt can respond like that regardless.
Some qustions and vague commentary doesn't equal town.

farside ignores my substantive question, but keeps commenting on my conduct.

Well i wasn't a fan of your attitude but i see the point is mute.

I think Persivul and Quick are speaking in another language, to be honest. I can't understand how the reasoning of both slots works

Yup

Wagon on Persivul probably collapsed because Town has no idea what they are doing and everyone just hopped on the next wagon.

The wagon on Persivul was just RVS garbage, I don't recall him ever picking up a lot of real suspicion.

Yup

I scumread Klick and Quick independently. Would people like to see a scumcase? I'm good at making those.

I am not a night 4 vigilante.

Im curious to see what you say.

Farside, do you think Persivul being toxic is inside his towngame ? I believe you know him better than me.

Ive only seen persivual toxic when something really bothers him. Nothing here that was said should have been responded to with that attitude.
If he said zuffy was actively lurking too then id get the scum attitude. This jus reads as aggressively asshattery scum tactic.

[Quick]

TMW you steal the page top, by mistake

Who do you TR?

[Hoctac]

Would you look at who it is. Heads up for everyone else:

Ame relishes in playing scum, so she only replaces into slots she hard scumreads after ISOing them in the replacement queue. Just some food for thought.

[brassherald]

TMW you steal the page top, by mistake

Who do you TR?

I've been putting my townblock out there. Are you just not reading my posts?

[Quick]

UNVOTE:

[Quick]

TMW you steal the page top, by mistake

Who do you TR?

I've been putting my townblock out there. Are you just not reading my posts?

Do you expect me to memorize the entire thread or something? There are a lot of pages here and I haven't done any notes.

[brassherald]

TMW you steal the page top, by mistake

Who do you TR?

I've been putting my townblock out there. Are you just not reading my posts?

Do you expect me to memorize the entire thread or something? There are a lot of pages here and I haven't done any notes.

Clidd, Farside, and Umlaut. I'm coming around on the guy with the duck avatar as well, I believe.

[farside22]

Would you look at who it is. Heads up for everyone else:

Ame relishes in playing scum, so she only replaces into slots she hard scumreads after ISOing them in the replacement queue. Just some food for thought.

Gggreeeeaaaaattttttt.

[Quick]

TMW you steal the page top, by mistake

Who do you TR?

I've been putting my townblock out there. Are you just not reading my posts?

Do you expect me to memorize the entire thread or something? There are a lot of pages here and I haven't done any notes.

Clidd, Farside, and Umlaut. I'm coming around on the guy with the duck avatar as well, I believe.

Explain Clidd pls. I think I agree with the other two.

[brassherald]

TMW you steal the page top, by mistake

Who do you TR?

I've been putting my townblock out there. Are you just not reading my posts?

Do you expect me to memorize the entire thread or something? There are a lot of pages here and I haven't done any notes.

Clidd, Farside, and Umlaut. I'm coming around on the guy with the duck avatar as well, I believe.

Explain Clidd pls. I think I agree with the other two.

I linked the newbie game we played, this is full meta read. He is playing very similarly here as he did there. I don't fully believe someone so new to the forum could emulate the same tone while trying to hide being scum.

It was also a sick Benny and the Jets reference when I put in the post.

[brassherald]

By the way, likely to be away for a few hours, now, since people seem to be pretty obsessed with posting hours here. Have a few telephonic arbitrations to take care of.

[Quick]

I linked the newbie game we played, this is full meta read. He is playing very similarly here as he did there. I don't fully believe someone so new to the forum could emulate the same tone while trying to hide being scum.

You realize how "good" they think they are right? So do you agree they should put me on ignore? And if this slot "Scumslipped", why are they doing that?

It was also a sick Benny and the Jets reference when I put in the post.

I honestly have no idea what this means...

[Umlaut]

VOTE: clidd

He's been pinging me a bunch lately. The Zulfy vote is bad, the rolefishing in 477 is bad, and I don't think someone who has Ragman as his top scumread is that afraid of leaving him at L-1 for a bit.

[Ircher]

Seeking a replacement for Ragman Saul Rima.

[Umlaut]

I linked the newbie game we played, this is full meta read. He is playing very similarly here as he did there. I don't fully believe someone so new to the forum could emulate the same tone while trying to hide being scum.

I think a big part of what presents as Clidd's "tone" is really just translation effects. But at any rate I think this argument is fallacious if you're going solely by his tone in a town game without having a scum game to compare.

[Quick]

No one is going to join me on Hactoc so I will go somewhere else.

This seems spicy enough I guess...

VOTE: Zulfy

[Ame]

Would you look at who it is. Heads up for everyone else:

Ame relishes in playing scum, so she only replaces into slots she hard scumreads after ISOing them in the replacement queue. Just some food for thought.

I had a dream that you, in the form of your evil Mario avatar, and I had a battle to the death. It was quite gruesome...

[SirCakez]

catching up now
I see a shitload of replacements :/

[valoneast]

We can laugh sometimes, you know?

Sure, if you think I am a better lynch than Hactoc, by all means, push your scum slip on me....

Okay, I am going to make this extremely clear to everyone for those of you having trouble.

THERE WAS NO SCUM SLIP, I EDITED THE QUOTE.

Notice how we didn't have anyone come onto the wagon after that? Almost like everyone else has a sixth sense. The sense of humor.

LOL! How is this actually a thing, I can't believe we're arguing about this xD. He literally just edited the post as a massive joke to get into the game. If you're basing a read on this, I'm not sure what to say.

[valoneast]

Okay, flip me. Then you can read all my posts for associations. How does that sound?

This sounds large warning bells for me. The way we play, the Matyr defense is scum! or newb!. Usually only because in RL you're not given as much time to come as something on the spot. But reading his posts up to this point, I find it hard to imagine this being newb!Quick.

[Ircher]

Looker replaces Ragman Saul Rima.

The OP will be out of date for a while as I'm not updating right now.