Mini 2129 - Anime U-Pick: Shuffle [ALL HAIL THE WEEBS(OVER)]

Enter · Tue May 12, 2020 5:05 am

like i get your point but also look at what has already been flipped for scum.

and roleblocker is ridiculously popular in role madness games because it helps balance both ways.

Enter · Tue May 12, 2020 5:07 am

like look at hiraki's interactions w/ titus yesterday especially this one:

In post 1750, Hiraki wrote:I don't get how a roleblocker and a BP and the other roles that have already died sum up to a fair game (there is almost 90% a cop in this game unless Kerset's role is just a red herring).

the "all the other roles that have already died" just reads like someone w/ TMI trying to justify TMI

Enter · Tue May 12, 2020 5:08 am

Enter · Tue May 12, 2020 5:09 am

can you have a janitor on lynches?

Enter · Tue May 12, 2020 5:09 am

i thought her role was a self-janitor thing

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 6:34 am

In post 1812, Hiraki wrote:
In post 1805, Enter wrote:like look at hiraki's interactions w/ titus yesterday especially this one:
In post 1750, Hiraki wrote:I don't get how a roleblocker and a BP and the other roles that have already died sum up to a fair game (there is almost 90% a cop in this game unless Kerset's role is just a red herring).
the "all the other roles that have already died" just reads like someone w/ TMI trying to justify TMI
You literally couldn't make sense of the roles in your last post.

Vote:Enter

This and then L and Light is a GG. Everyone should claim at this point.

I think you either don't understand what I'm talking about or you're intentionally misconstruing it. Either way this post has no legitimate meaning. Self-vote and let's get this over with.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 6:35 am

I'm a cop, BTW.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 6:36 am

I have a 50% chance of getting a result when targeting a player.

Targets:
Alisae N1: Shut-in
Kerset N2: Weeb
Norwee N3: No result
Hiraki N4: No result

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 7:13 am

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 7:41 am

i can do L&Light today if you'd like

I'm more likely to have a result on hiraki tomorrow anyways due to 50%.. (although i guess that's gambler's fallacy sort of)

i still pretty strongly feel that rcenigma is town and you're effectively cleared due to Titus and Norwee things.

also i think killing hiraki just ends the game, whereas I'm not as convinced on L&Light

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 7:50 am

In post 1820, L and Light wrote:
In post 1800, Enter wrote:I'm willing to lynch in L&Light and Hiraki today, but given L&Light's claim I'd rather lynch Hiraki and then have L&Light target RCE tonight. Y&T are effectively conftown, IMO, given the status of Titus' PT. It's unfortunately very difficult to work around L&Light's claim since scum have to want to target them for it to return any form of positive result.
~I'm out of charges~

:blobcry:

-Light

yeah I'm not voting anyone but hiraki today

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 7:58 am

...

i'm pocketed

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 7:59 am

like tbh i don't want him to be scum and i feel good enough about the likelihood of getting a result tonight that i can deal with him tomorrow if for some reason Hiraki is town

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 8:00 am

but like... hiraki isn't town so it doesn't matter

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 8:23 am

she told me?

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 8:23 am

i don't understand the question

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 8:24 am

the mod sent me no result on kerset

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 8:35 am

i forgot i wrote in town after i realized i did a stupid and investigated the miller

i already talked to kerset about it in my thread

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 8:35 am

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 8:58 am

In post 1845, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Enter, did u just mess up?

-Tataru

yeah. i targetted the miller

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:12 pm

I feel like we fed the game to town.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:14 pm

I was so very not invested in this game and it showed when I screwed up multiple mechanical factors at the end of this game.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:17 pm

In post 1887, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1885, Enter wrote:I was so very not invested in this game and it showed when I screwed up multiple mechanical factors at the end of this game.
I don't think you were the lynch if you didn't claim cop. And also the kerset thing.

I think it's possible I was. Bitmap and L&Light and Hiraki all seemed pretty ok with lynching me, but tbh I claimed cop cuz I wanted to drop it in the thread and then not have to check in on the game for a bit.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:20 pm

Cop is the only thing that would make anyone want to lynch elsewhere.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:23 pm

I like you Alisae. I'd love to play w/ you again as any alignment.

This role madness shit isn't for me, though.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:24 pm

In post 1893, Alisae wrote:Something that did make me feel very uncomfortable all game was that I had no obvious fakeclaim.
Like, I don't mind having to come up with fakeclaims by myself, but there was nothing that I could really come up with that felt genuinely safe within the context of the setup, but that could also be a part of just me not thinking how to play with mechanics a bit more.
Plus, Torque was dead because of lolvigs, so I can make up whatever I wanted.

Yep. The lack of fake claims provided was surprising for me.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:28 pm

I'm sorry, Norwee.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:29 pm

I also would have rather bussed Norwee over Alisae, but I figured y'all were also somewhat disenfranchised and just wanted out, so I wasn't going to forbid you that.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:30 pm

Replacing out in a role madness game is so much better for town than replacing out in a min role madness game

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:30 pm

She had access to a whole new level of unpredictability

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:33 pm

Like bussing was fun and all, but I was so very outclassed in power roles all by self at the end there that it just didn't matter anymore and o hardly cared

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:34 pm

And I was isolated - both of my pocket buddies were dead

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:35 pm

In post 1910, RCEnigma wrote:Tbf the only impactful role was Titus roleblock and Titus repping into that slot saved town.

Idk about fakeclaims but as long as the role vaguely fit the flavor I think you can argue your claim successfully.

This is wrong on a level I'm not certain you can understand because you weren't in my shoes.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:37 pm

In post 1916, RCEnigma wrote:Enter you probably could have claimed vt with your flavor and I would have bought it. Or some kind of x-shot conditional redirect.

I need to convince more than just you. Additionally, I don't know if my character is connotationally evil or even what abilities I can fake claim that aren't going to contradict my character's flavor.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:38 pm

In post 1918, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Our strategy was just bad, and we couldn’t communicate that well with each other. That’s the main reason for our loss IMO. Titus roleblock and town play is just secondary.

Yeah we fed town the win.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:39 pm

Eh. I'm sorry, I could have invested more. I should have invested more.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:42 pm

I'm mostly just mad at the setup and I think that's my fault for signing up for this sort of game. The moderation was fine, I just didn't like how much I didn't know or was just completely unfamiliar with, and so much just seemed to constantly come out of left field or be ridiculous.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:48 pm

Wow. I mean, I figured I had yours and y&t support, so I needed to flip light. I claimed because Hiraki called for it and I was kind of scared - I didn't have the necessary game stat awareness to know I could get away with not claiming at that point. I guess I was impulsive.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 9:55 pm

In post 1940, RCEnigma wrote:Yeah I mean you probably felt cornered so I get it. I just think you could have gotten away with it.

Bring up the conflicts with Alisae.
Bring up the day 1 lynch and argue that last scum was off wagon.
Like you got bit to reconsider on Hiraki. But j don't think I was ever lynching Hiraki there. You had to push me or L and Light.

Bringing up why you're town makes it lose weight
Investing in discussion when town has a way to win mechanically makes you look defensive and draws the lynch in your own direction
Light and Hiraki were the two players with kill stopping actions. I had to have one of them dead to achieve a kill reliably.
I think it would be a lot harder to sway light or Hiraki than you.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 10:01 pm

Probably just bitmap tbh

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 10:05 pm

If you shoot the same night you get shot, do both shots go off?

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 10:06 pm

In post 1953, Enter wrote:If you shoot the same night you get shot, do both shots go off?

If the answer is yes, I think waiting is almost exclusively better, but I don't blame you. You were in a Hydra with bitmap

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 10:43 pm

Thanks for the game, Tatsuya. I feel like I was significantly harsher than I should have been. I enjoyed the one-way PT mechanic, although I feel as if I was the only person that used it.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 10:59 pm

Yes. Making too many hoods is moderator suicide.

Enter · Wed May 13, 2020 11:01 pm

Too many mechanics is also difficult to handle as a moderator. The longer I stick around, the more sold I am on subtlety.

That said I think you had some very creative roles, Tatsuya.

Enter · Sat May 16, 2020 5:54 am

In post 1985, Kerset wrote:
In post 1975, Kerset wrote:WHO FAILED TO PASS MY PICTURE? I WANT TO KNOW NOW.
ENTER HOW DARE YOU

I passed your picture to Abu!