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I'm not a fly but I'm a butterfly, do you want me Looker?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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Votecount 6.3
Target Wagon humaneatingmonkey(1)Looker (2932) Green Crayons(1)Isis (3033) Not Voting(5)Deimos27, Elements, Green Crayons, humaneatingmonkey (2892), Firebringer (2998)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. The Day 6 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-22 12:38:59).Last edited by northsidegal on Sun May 17, 2020 7:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.-
humaneatingmonkey
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Why not?In post 3027, Looker wrote:I don't think it would be possible for scum to effectively avoid all mislynches.-
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Spoiler: First VC where nobody is not voting.
Spoiler: Deimos wagon
Spoiler: Cycle Men wagon - part 1
Spoiler: Cycle Men wagon - part 2
So, with purple being not flipped but I'm feeling pretty good about being town based on D1 VCs (I included myself because I can and you should too), I see D1 ending as:In post 1301, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.Final
Target Wagon Cycle Men(7)Deimos27 (588), humaneatingmonkey (902), Isis(904),Firebringer(1234),Green Crayons(1240),Elements(1245),Alisae(1289)Elements(4)Cycle Men(1002),NorwegianboyEE(1101),votato(1187),Albert B. Rampage(1251)NorwegianboyEE(1)Looker (456) Not Voting(0)
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Cycle Menwas lynched. He was aMafia Goon."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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Note I didn't actually reread D1. I just wanted to do a VCA before I skimmed D1.
I meant to say, before I reread D1."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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Too bad. Do your own VCA if you don't like it."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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lol okay i'm feeling good about my Elements callIn post 874, Cycle Men wrote:
elements and norwee probablyhumaneatingmonkey wrote:whos scum in your wagon?"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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ez pzIn post 3059, humaneatingmonkey wrote:No thanks I'll just leech off your work and un-confirm you as necessary"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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Mislynches. If you find them, I probably won't have to self-hammer.In post 3054, humaneatingmonkey wrote:If I randomly sample 10 of your games and see that there's one scum who has successfully avoided non-LYLO lynches, would you self-hammer?-
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i am willing to lynch looker. Odds him fliping scum are probably less than 40%.
His reads are going to fuck the town over if this game goes to like final 4 though if he is town.
He isn't doing anything to rectify bad reads either so.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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ohhh look it looks like vote count 1.11 is an all town wagon on Deimos with zero scum.
Wonder why they didn't touch it.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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In post 1058, humaneatingmonkey wrote:unless it's scum!NorwEE and scum!Cycle. He's more willing to get lynched and make up a reason for an alternative vote (me) than to bus NorwEE
Pretty on the nose, there, HME.In post 1153, humaneatingmonkey wrote:A counterwagon opens around NorwEE. He doesn't take it.
An argument can be made that he is town because there's no reason. But there is.
Clemency is always at a high risk of a lynch, as town or scum. Scum!Celemency knows that he's not getting away from a lynch, regardless of what the town thinks about him.
With that in mind, Scum!Celemency will make town!NorwEE look better and risk a potential mislynch for his scumteam by switching to his wagon. When he is a strong lynch potential at anytime, why would he help town!NorwEE here?
Scum!Clemency will also prefer to not aid the lynch of scum!NorwEE, who has a better fighting chance than he has.
At least town!Celemency has a reason to pursue a NorwEE lynch. He has no idea here what NorwEE will flip and he'll be game to see where the wagon leads to — bonus points for scumreading the slot in the firstplace.
Instead he doesn't take it.
I'm really not sure what to make of the Cycle-Norwegian-HME mashup from page 36 to 43.
It's just so damned weird that Cycle and Norwegian focus on HME out of the Ali/HME/Isis trio who try to push a Norwegian counterwagon to Cycle's wagon.
I keep vacillating between seeing the Cycle/Norwegian/HME interactions as legit, and completely contrived.
If we take it that Cycle attacked/voted the Ali/HME/Isis trio who press for a Norwegian-wagon to help Norwegian, then Cycle's goal is to help scum (by defending Norwegian-scum). You don't help scum by singling out and attacking yet another scum from that trio (assuming one is there). Like, I have this really big paranoia that Cycle/Norwegian/HME were doing this big scum gambit to get mad at each other, but it doesn't have the greatest of scum benefits for two of them to gang up against one. And then for HME and Cycle to keep going at it for several pages after 43.
I guess the simplest answer is that HME is town, and Cycle/Norwegian ganged up on him to see what would stick. That just feels *too* simple. Bah."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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lololIn post 3064, Firebringer wrote:ohhh look it looks like vote count 1.11 is an all town wagon on Deimos with zero scum.
Wonder why they didn't touch it."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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the lol is because it's a pretty obvious observation that I completely missed."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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gc pls sr me"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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i am hassing apple vodkas"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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yuuuuup:In post 3060, Green Crayons wrote:
lol okay i'm feeling good about my Elements callIn post 874, Cycle Men wrote:
elements and norwee probablyhumaneatingmonkey wrote:whos scum in your wagon?In post 1238, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Element flip will give much more valuable information than Clemency in my opinion. This excessive concern against the initial wagon from Humaneatingmonkey is pretty weird.In post 1239, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'd really like to solve Alisae's allignment, and a Elements flip would definitely help me with that."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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roll scum next time and then vote scummily and I'll see what I can doIn post 3068, Isis wrote:gc pls sr me"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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u obviously haven't been listening to deimos my scumgame is to tmi bus my partners thats not a scum vca"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"-
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if true, then I believe Deimos should scumread you then"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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deimos come scumread me"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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