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[clidd]

While we wait on the Ame lynch train I'd like to know why farside was night killed.

Because she was a universal townread.

[Ircher]

Day 3 VC #5

Reundo (1): clidd (1395)
clidd (0):
Hoctac (0):

Ame (3) (L-2): SirCakez (1286), Umlaut (1428), Zulfy (1433)

SirCakez (1): Looker (1404)
Not Voting (4): Reundo, valoneast, Ame, Hoctac (1295)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 23, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-23 13:00:00).

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3.

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[clidd]

Ame, I'm losing patience with you.

[Ame]

Ame, I'm losing patience with you.

How come, Clidd?

[Zulfy]

We're talking about day 1 here not whole game frequency.

[Zulfy]

I think the posts themselves were decent but it didn't really look like active scumhunting

Then why do you not have an opinion on Umlaut when Umlaut's posts were substantively identical to Reundo's?

[clidd]

Ame, I'm losing patience with you.

How come, Clidd?

I was expecting more effective scumhunting and an agreement from you with my PoE. Your claim is strange and doesn't give me much confidence, although I imagine that you are individually town.

[clidd]

We're talking about day 1 here not whole game frequency.

Ok, Zulfy.

[Zulfy]

...The hood claimed. Even I, who hasn't read the game, was aware of who was in it.

Then why exhaust your one shot on the first night of the game.

[Zulfy]

Why would you lynch outside of the hood if there's scum there regardless of quick's alignment.
I scum read hoctac and Cakez.
VOTE: hoctac
Hoctac lied about not knowing I was the persi slot. He's also trying to butter me up to get me to hammer. It would be silly not to lynch here.

Lynching in the hood is 1/4 - assuming 1 scum. Lynching outside of the hood is 2/8 (from a town PoV).

As Zulfy stated, it's 2/9. Regardless, reducing the argument to raw probability is duplicitous as it removes human cognition from the equation. An example to make the point salient: you have a greater chance of selecting which one out two people is lying than you do selecting which 50 out of 100 people are lying. The random and raw probabilities are the same, but focusing your efforts on two people is far simpler than sorting 100. Additionally, lynching correctly inside the hood provides three innocent children, whereas lynching correctly outside of it does not.

If you were one-shot cop you wouldn't have targeted brassherald, you would have targeted Hoctac.

She was a universal town read correct?

Universal suggests everyone, but:

Farside's reads look like the reads that scum fabricate.
Farside > Cakez > Hoc

Umlaut, I don't think Farside being convinced you are town from your response is sincere. It looks like the type of fake sorting that scum does.

[Ame]

Ame, I'm losing patience with you.

How come, Clidd?

I was expecting more effective scumhunting and an agreement from you with my PoE. Your claim is strange and doesn't give me much confidence, although I imagine that you are individually town.

I haven't read it. I fully intended to catch up on Friday/Saturday but got sidetracked with other things. Today I am really drained and unmotivated and exhausted from mafia. But I don't want to leave you guys in limbo so I will try to do some reading now.

[Ame]

Then why exhaust your one shot on the first night of the game.

I don't quite see how the quote pertains to what you're asking.

[Ame]

If you were one-shot cop you wouldn't have targeted brassherald, you would have targeted Hoctac.

Ok.

[Zulfy]

1) You know who is in the hood. Brassherald Hoctac Valoneast and Zulfy
2) You think that the best thing to do is lynch in the hood, since there is scum there.
3) From the 4 in the hood, the one you scumread is Hoctac.
4) You think lynching correctly in the hood will clear the other 3 players in it.
5) You are one-shot cop and you're going to use your shot night 1.

When those 5 things are true, then this must be true: You're going to use your investigation on Hoctac.

That's the only way it can be when you're town, and since that's not how it is, you're not town.
"Ok." she says. Thanks for scumclaiming.

[Ame]

I already explained my progression on Hectic.

[Ame]

Er Hoctac

[Zulfy]

Please see: 3) From the 4 in the hood, the one you scumread is Hoctac.
You went into night 1 scumreading Hoctac.

[Zulfy]

You were my first choice to investigate during the night, but after reading some, I changed my mind.

Oh lol.
VOTE: SirCakez

[Looker]

Don't hammer. I'll be back in about 2 hours.

[SirCakez]

I think the posts themselves were decent but it didn't really look like active scumhunting

Then why do you not have an opinion on Umlaut when Umlaut's posts were substantively identical to Reundo's?

Umlaut has felt more engaged

am I at L-1?

[clidd]

VOTE: SirCakez

Ops

[Zulfy]

Damn you know what: Lynching quick was really stupid.

[Zulfy]

Hmmm wait maybe not that stupid at all.

[Zulfy]

Oh btw I mean lynching Quick, the player, not lynching quick right now, if that even was a hammer I haven't checked.

[clidd]

Yes, kind of.

Ngl, I had Klick as town, but I didn't like Quick replacing in, which is why I let him get lynched.