SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Quick]

dude what about my case moved jake from your top townslot to your voting slot

like my cases are literally not some magical wizardry

Because like I said, my reads based on my method are highly subject to change at this point. They are not rock solid reads, but generalities based on Town Utility. They don't really develop into accurate reads until late game.

I can keep telling you this if you keep bringing the same accusations against me if you want.

I already think you slipped Town, so that is another reason why I am sheeping you on Jake.

Does them slipping as town mean I am scum?

Depends what you think of their case on you. I thought it wasn't actually a bad case, personally. Plus, it's a nice breath of fresh air for this game based on the last 10 or so pages.

[OkaPoka]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

[Nero Cain]

in fairness, Jake and voted have contradictory answers so it makes it seem like one is lying, I don't feel like its some crzy logic that Quick sees this and goes "hey Jake is scum!"

ofc could abuse that as well. If Jake is town.

[Jake The Wolfie]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

I am interested in diving into who voted V.

[OkaPoka]

in fairness, Jake and voted have contradictory answers so it makes it seem like one is lying, I don't feel like its some crzy logic that Quick sees this and goes "hey Jake is scum!"

ofc could abuse that as well. If Jake is town.

see if anyone else did that id be fine but quick explicitly took the position before that jake was town and voted was the scum in the exchange

idk really anymore, i feel like my case was pretty self explanatory, i just wanted to put it down in words and did not expect to change people's minds, just bring more people into the conversation but like i changed someone's mind and now i don't know how to reacT???

[Jake The Wolfie]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

I am interested in diving into who voted V.

For example: were they voting V because I am their leader who will follow me mostly unhinged, or do they want V dead?

[OkaPoka]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

I am interested in diving into who voted V.

jake why did you vote voted originally btw? was it because you felt like you saw a contradiction and now you see that you made a poor choice of words? can you give us a whiff of why the contradiction happened? wording? role?

[OkaPoka]

jake ill dive into other people once you are resolved one way or another

[Jake The Wolfie]

in fairness, Jake and voted have contradictory answers so it makes it seem like one is lying, I don't feel like its some crzy logic that Quick sees this and goes "hey Jake is scum!"

ofc could abuse that as well. If Jake is town.

see if anyone else did that id be fine but quick explicitly took the position before that jake was town and voted was the scum in the exchange

idk really anymore, i feel like my case was pretty self explanatory, i just wanted to put it down in words and did not expect to change people's minds, just bring more people into the conversation but like i changed someone's mind and now i don't know how to reacT???

Your case included 2 questions for me, one o whcih I answered, and the other one I don't need to answer.

[Nero Cain]

y r u playing so differently, TSE?

[OkaPoka]

meh. jake is giving pretty shit answers and hiding behind the threat of a modkill. i think reasonably jake can give a better hint as to what he's thinking and why certain things transpired the way they did without eating a modkill. and if its hard, sucks to suck welcome to mafia. so until he at least attempts that he should eat rope.

[davesaz]

Wow, that blew up big time.
The exact wording of the question to the mod probably matters, and the exact wording of the mod's answer matters too. And getting too close to either one in your posting will fall afoul of the rules.

I have not asked yet, but I suppose I'll need to in order to get a handle on this pile of stuff.
<self censoring there, stronger words in the ole noggin>

Pedit. please hold!!! let someone with a better command of English handle this.

[Jake The Wolfie]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

I am interested in diving into who voted V.

jake why did you vote voted originally btw? was it because you felt like you saw a contradiction and now you see that you made a poor choice of words? can you give us a whiff of why the contradiction happened? wording? role?

The vote on V was because of boredom with the staleness from my PoV. I could have just let V's comment brush away, but because I wanted to feel somewhat useful, I threw some cards down on the table.

[Tchill13]

I think Nahdia's being disingenuous of her Saudade push. There are many examples of players to whom you don't apply the "normal" scumhunting principles to catch; and I've pointed out that Saudade is one of them. I feel like that should be clear just from looking at his ISO. On re-reading, noticed that I've stated that in both 3121 and 3156, yet, she doubled down on this in 3227 without appearing to take any of that into account. I don't think Nahdia should be the type of player to pursue such surface level plays. She also discarded the entirety of the setup spec discussion which arguably is beneficial in part to town - all this leads me to think she's just not putting much effort into thinking about the game. Apart from Saudade there seems to be no strong read in her ISO: feels a little like scum replacing in, picking someone to attack, and just coasting, does it not?

Nero, TChill, Gobbles, Flavor - thoughts?

who did nahdia replace?

[Quick]

meh. jake is giving pretty shit answers and hiding behind the threat of a modkill. i think reasonably jake can give a better hint as to what he's thinking and why certain things transpired the way they did without eating a modkill. and if its hard, sucks to suck welcome to mafia. so until he at least attempts that he should eat rope.

Honestly, I don't think Jake would talk about getting mod killed as a defense to being Scum...

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Creature

[Tchill13]

Tchill, do you have scumreads that you aren't pushing? You commented but I wasn't sure if that comment meant they were scumreads or not.

Nero, do you really think scum would chill out pushing an impossible target?

i think hoctac has reason to be scum. specifically the trollish behavior d1 then pushing tmi on me at the opening of d2.

[Jake The Wolfie]

meh. jake is giving pretty shit answers and hiding behind the threat of a modkill. i think reasonably jake can give a better hint as to what he's thinking and why certain things transpired the way they did without eating a modkill. and if its hard, sucks to suck welcome to mafia. so until he at least attempts that he should eat rope.

I learned my lesson on another site. Better to be slaughterd by the town and give nothing than to be slaughtered by the mod and gain nothing.

pedit: Stop with all the ninja's. This isn't a damn dojo.

[OkaPoka]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

I am interested in diving into who voted V.

jake why did you vote voted originally btw? was it because you felt like you saw a contradiction and now you see that you made a poor choice of words? can you give us a whiff of why the contradiction happened? wording? role?

The vote on V was because of boredom with the staleness from my PoV. I could have just let V's comment brush away, but because I wanted to feel somewhat useful, I threw some cards down on the table.

so like you added the comments about "bullshit, mod says no comment" for the shits and giggles? or are they true and why you voted him?

[Quick]

Tchill, do you have scumreads that you aren't pushing? You commented but I wasn't sure if that comment meant they were scumreads or not.

Nero, do you really think scum would chill out pushing an impossible target?

i think hoctac has reason to be scum. specifically the trollish behavior d1 then pushing tmi on me at the opening of d2.

All your reasons for reads are terrible. Seriously.

[Jake The Wolfie]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

I am interested in diving into who voted V.

jake why did you vote voted originally btw? was it because you felt like you saw a contradiction and now you see that you made a poor choice of words? can you give us a whiff of why the contradiction happened? wording? role?

The vote on V was because of boredom with the staleness from my PoV. I could have just let V's comment brush away, but because I wanted to feel somewhat useful, I threw some cards down on the table.

so like you added the comments about "bullshit, mod says no comment" for the shits and giggles? or are they true and why you voted him?

They were true. I wouldn't give out false info, but I do hide true info.

[Quick]

lets try another route then

jake does your vote on voted still stand?

I am interested in diving into who voted V.

jake why did you vote voted originally btw? was it because you felt like you saw a contradiction and now you see that you made a poor choice of words? can you give us a whiff of why the contradiction happened? wording? role?

The vote on V was because of boredom with the staleness from my PoV. I could have just let V's comment brush away, but because I wanted to feel somewhat useful, I threw some cards down on the table.

so like you added the comments about "bullshit, mod says no comment" for the shits and giggles? or are they true and why you voted him?

You realize this leads to a claim right? I am not sure I want that at this point.

How about we lynch Creature who isn't even playing rn?

[Tchill13]

because you are all lazy fucks i really doubt you guys pm'd the mod yet so go and pm the mod

i really have an issue with the game getting caught up on mechanic semantics. Thats gotta be an experience ruiner for the mod who was probably super excited about this setup.

that said, all this avenue of action will do is create a "he said, she said" argument.

[Nero Cain]

Honestly, I don't think Jake would talk about getting mod killed as a defense to being Scum...

I have reasons for why I kinda think Jake might be town but I think that hiding behind a modkill is a perfectly acceptable strat as scum.

[Tchill13]

All your reasons for reads are terrible. Seriously.

just playing on a lvl you cant even fathom. Heres your number (#3)

go join nero and mastina in the observers room. please maintain 6 ft distance so youre idiocracy will not spread please and thank you.

[Tchill13]

all yalls is so angry all the time. u guys need to meditate or medicate or smoke a bowl or get laid or something.

THERES LITERALLY 0 TOWN MOTIVATION TO POST THIS.

but I agree with the sentiment.