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Post Post #4400 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 pm

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In post 4394, Nero Cain wrote:I'd like to hear more about your reads this game.
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Post Post #4401 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:11 pm

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UNVOTE:

i have like 25 minutes until D&D. anything urgent people want me to respond to?

i remember somewhere in the thread auro accused me of kind of phoning this game in and coasting a bit. i think it's a bit of a misrep to say ive only take nthe one stance and coasted on it; i've had multiple reads, some of which have been controversial. but it is true im having trouble really getting involved here. just wanted to, idk, justify that.i think after tmy current crop of games im gonna stick to only micros and the occasional mini.

also on looking back at nero im less sure of that. his explanation for what i thought was really scummy on page 1 is fine, i dont think that's AI anymore. and i do appreciate that he's being proactive at solving in what feels to me a very very foggy gamestate.

i agree with voted. blair calling her predecessor scummy and having reads that make no sense is really bad. and then takes the Jake wagon full throttle, which is probably the safest stance to take right now because it has "mechanics" in the case, not to mention jake isn't exactly gonna fire back.
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Post Post #4402 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:12 pm

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Hey! Managed to find some time to put into this.

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Post Post #4403 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:15 pm

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In post 4399, Blair wrote:I mean

Do you think people shouldn't be compelled to take a public stance on Jake?
I don't like the post, because you vote Jake because of his suboptimal behavior, rather than scummy behavior/ intentions.
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Post Post #4404 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:25 pm

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I can see the arguments of scumBlair taking a safe stance on Jake. I’ve never really subscribed to the Amished tell though.
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Post Post #4405 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:26 pm

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If Jake’s actually scum though it makes Blair a lot more likely to be Town.
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Post Post #4406 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:26 pm

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sorry what's the amished tell? cant find anything on the wiki about it.
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Post Post #4407 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:27 pm

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In post 4406, Nahdia wrote:sorry what's the amished tell? cant find anything on the wiki about it.
When a replacement calls the player they replaced scummy.
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Post Post #4408 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:28 pm

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In post 4402, Hoctac wrote:Hey! Managed to find some time to put into this.

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What behavioural data are known have been gleaned from ephemeral encounters with ROVs; animals are often injured during capture, and survive up to two months in aquaria.[citation needed] An artificial environment makes reliable observation of non-defensive behaviour difficult. In May 2014, Monterey Bay Aquarium (California, United States) became the first to ever put this species on display.[16][17]
With their long velar filaments deployed, vampire squids have been observed drifting along in the deep, black ocean currents. If the filaments contact an entity, or if vibrations impinge upon them, the animals investigate with rapid acrobatic movements. They are capable of swimming at speeds equivalent to two body lengths per second, with an acceleration time of five seconds. However, their weak muscles limit stamina considerably.
Unlike their relatives living in more hospitable climates, deep-sea cephalopods cannot afford to expend energy in protracted flight. Given their low metabolic rate and the low density of prey at such depths, vampire squids must use innovative predator avoidance tactics to conserve energy. Their aforementioned bioluminescent "fireworks" are combined with the writhing of glowing arms, erratic movements, and escape trajectories, making it difficult for a predator to identify multiple targets.
In a threat response called the "pumpkin" or "pineapple" posture, the vampire squid inverts its caped arms back over the body, presenting an ostensibly larger form covered in fearsome-looking though harmless spines (called cirri).[18] The underside of the cape is heavily pigmented, masking most of the body's photophores. The glowing arm tips are clustered together far above the animal's head, diverting attack away from critical areas. If a predator were to bite off an arm tip, the vampire squid can regenerate it.
They have eight arms but lack feeding tentacles, and instead use two retractile filaments in order to capture food. They combine the waste with mucus secreted from suckers to form balls of food. They feed on detritus, including the remains of gelatinous zooplankton (such as salps, larvaceans, and medusae jellies) and complete copepods, ostracods, amphipods, and isopods.[19][5]
Vampire squids have been found among the stomach contents of large, deepwater fish, including giant grenadiers,[20] and deep-diving mammals, such as whales and sea lions.
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Post Post #4409 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:38 pm

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In post 4408, Voted wrote:
In post 4402, Hoctac wrote:Hey! Managed to find some time to put into this.

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What behavioural data are known have been gleaned from ephemeral encounters with ROVs; animals are often injured during capture, and survive up to two months in aquaria.[citation needed] An artificial environment makes reliable observation of non-defensive behaviour difficult. In May 2014, Monterey Bay Aquarium (California, United States) became the first to ever put this species on display.[16][17]
With their long velar filaments deployed, vampire squids have been observed drifting along in the deep, black ocean currents. If the filaments contact an entity, or if vibrations impinge upon them, the animals investigate with rapid acrobatic movements. They are capable of swimming at speeds equivalent to two body lengths per second, with an acceleration time of five seconds. However, their weak muscles limit stamina considerably.
Unlike their relatives living in more hospitable climates, deep-sea cephalopods cannot afford to expend energy in protracted flight. Given their low metabolic rate and the low density of prey at such depths, vampire squids must use innovative predator avoidance tactics to conserve energy. Their aforementioned bioluminescent "fireworks" are combined with the writhing of glowing arms, erratic movements, and escape trajectories, making it difficult for a predator to identify multiple targets.
In a threat response called the "pumpkin" or "pineapple" posture, the vampire squid inverts its caped arms back over the body, presenting an ostensibly larger form covered in fearsome-looking though harmless spines (called cirri).[18] The underside of the cape is heavily pigmented, masking most of the body's photophores. The glowing arm tips are clustered together far above the animal's head, diverting attack away from critical areas. If a predator were to bite off an arm tip, the vampire squid can regenerate it.
They have eight arms but lack feeding tentacles, and instead use two retractile filaments in order to capture food. They combine the waste with mucus secreted from suckers to form balls of food. They feed on detritus, including the remains of gelatinous zooplankton (such as salps, larvaceans, and medusae jellies) and complete copepods, ostracods, amphipods, and isopods.[19][5]
Vampire squids have been found among the stomach contents of large, deepwater fish, including giant grenadiers,[20] and deep-diving mammals, such as whales and sea lions.
I read the first sentence and can already tell you are copy pasting from wikipedia. Wikipedia sucks, btw.
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Post Post #4410 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:39 pm

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I completed high school because of it.
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Post Post #4411 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:41 pm

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In post 4399, Blair wrote:I mean

Do you think people shouldn't be compelled to take a public stance on Jake?
The only stance you should take on me is that I am shite
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Post Post #4412 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:43 pm

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In post 4403, Voted wrote:
In post 4399, Blair wrote:I mean

Do you think people shouldn't be compelled to take a public stance on Jake?
I don't like the post, because you vote Jake because of his suboptimal behavior, rather than scummy behavior/ intentions.
This reeks of "Jake is no longer a person. Jake is now a Policy Lynch."
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Post Post #4413 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:45 pm

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Jake is no longer a person. Jake is now a Policy Lynch.
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Post Post #4414 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 1:46 pm

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Day 2 VC #25

Blair (1): Hoctac ()
Auro (0):
Hoctac (0):
5G Tower (0):
Jake the Wolfie (6): Auro (), Alchemist21 (), davesaz (), OkaPoka (), Blair (), mastina ()

Aristophanes (0):
Quick (7): 50 Judge Powers (), pisskop (), gobbledygook (), Flavor Leaf (), Tchill13 (), Jake the Wolfie (), Aristophanes ()

TrueSoulEnergy (1): 5G Tower ()
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Alchemist21 (0):
Nahdia (1): Nero Cain (),
Flavor Leaf (1): TrueSoulEnergy ()
davesaz (0):
mastina (0):
OkaPoka (1): Quick ()
Tchill13 (0):
pisskop (1): Voted ()
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Not Voting (1): Nahdia ()

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Post Post #4415 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:31 pm

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Question: Is the distinction between original mafia and infected something that should be factoring into whom we ultimately vote for?

If I am understanding the setup correctly, we don't really win by lynching infected, right?
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Post Post #4416 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:34 pm

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the guess is that only mafia members can recruit and infected cannot recruit, although they appear to share the same wincon
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Post Post #4417 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:36 pm

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my assumption was that the infected will essentially become traitors that don't know the scumteam.
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Post Post #4418 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:40 pm

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In post 4417, Nahdia wrote:my assumption was that the infected will essentially become traitors that don't know the scumteam.
Good theory, actually. I like this idea, but IDK how true it is. I figured it was a CULT game because I am NOT expecting MADE UP roles - only roles that already exist but just have different flavor names. That is what I gathered from ETL.
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Post Post #4419 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:47 pm

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In post 4401, Nahdia wrote:his explanation for what i thought was really scummy on page 1 is fine,
but the explanation was in the very next post. I'm not sure how you missed it. I don't believe that you actually thought I was complaining about the game state on p1. Nevermind that someone who actully complained about the gamestate for little or no reason and you fawn over him. Your "scumhunting" is very selective. All this seems more like willful ignorance then just not reading well.

I also really don't get why your unvoting Quick here.
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Post Post #4420 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:48 pm

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u jelly nero
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Post Post #4421 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:49 pm

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In post 4418, Quick wrote:
In post 4417, Nahdia wrote:my assumption was that the infected will essentially become traitors that don't know the scumteam.
Good theory, actually. I like this idea, but IDK how true it is. I figured it was a CULT game because I am NOT expecting MADE UP roles - only roles that already exist but just have different flavor names. That is what I gathered from ETL.
A50 already brought this up d1. It makes sense and it made me kinda think that a50 was scum (and now Nahdia)
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Post Post #4422 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:49 pm

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In post 4420, OkaPoka wrote:u jelly nero
very
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #4423 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:50 pm

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i think everyone knows your stance on nahdia at this point and the case has been made and tbh, nahdia isnt going to go today

wanna come vote jake instead
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Post Post #4424 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2020 2:52 pm

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In post 4419, Nero Cain wrote:but the explanation was in the very next post. I'm not sure how you missed it
over 100 pages, my dude. it wasn't exactly a close reading.
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