Micro 937 / Reservoir Dogs DDU / Game Over!

[Conspire]

Isis! we were looking forward to being the only ones who knew your secret identity when we saw you /in on the queues, but you already outed yourself (๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)✧

~Esper

[Conspire]

Ico; what if we were a cop but also a double agent?

VOTE: Ame

~Esper

[Conspire]

Isis! we were looking forward to being the only ones who knew your secret identity when we saw you /in on the queues, but you already outed yourself (๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)✧

~Esper

How did you figure it out from the queues?

Cosmic knew your character was called Scholarship Student Isis; you need to level up your stealth skills

~Esper

[Conspire]

Esper please teach me the art of espermoji •̀ㅁ•́

It takes years of training (๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)✿

You've made a good start; you have potential, Ame

~Esper

[Conspire]

Ew, blondes

VOTE: isis

no scum can truly dislike blondes

do you mean town? (눈‸눈)

~Esper

[Conspire]

you need to level up your stealth skills

this is kinda ironic due to your "anonymity", no? makes you an unlikely choice for undercover cop though.

why would you put anonymity in quotation marks? hmM???

since I know you like using meta, here's Cosmic's main: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=33865

~Esper

[Conspire]

Hello

friends of the mafia

, Double Triple "Double Spice Latte" Agent Cosmic here.

We suspect there is a conspiracy afoot.

VOTE: RCEnigma
VOTE: Something_Smart
VOTE: Mr Pink
VOTE: Iconeum
VOTE: shiki
VOTE: Conspire
VOTE: Isis
VOTE: Ame
VOTE: Jake The Wolfie

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Before you ask,

no

, I did not read the first page.

UNVOTE: for now.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

@shiki and @ame; our identities were never revealed? i'm a little confused rn

~Esper

[Conspire]

Who doubts our annonimity here? I swear I have never seen any of you in my entire life.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

our theory rn is that bugspray is a shiki alt and you inned to the queue twice by accident. the mod realised after so he had to get someone else in

~Esper

[Conspire]

our theory rn is that bugspray is a shiki alt and you inned to the queue twice by accident. the mod realised after so he had to get someone else in

and you think the someone the mod got happened to be named mr pink, a character from the movie the game's flavour is based around who is the only one who survives in the end and in game terms was basically the victorious townie but is hard to root for because of the speech about not tipping waitresses?

Ok I see your point but what if Mr Pink is a Datisi or skitter alt rping for the game? we have no way of knowing for sure

Also you didn't confirm you're not a bugspray alt (눈‸눈)

~Esper

[Conspire]

PS; the flavour is amazing!

~Esper

Thank you! -E

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Double Spice Latte" Agent Cosmic here, checking in from the warehouse.

We suspected our votes were

sabotaged

by the Double Triple "Actually Double Cops", but it appears to have been a false alarm. Thus, I will make 1 (

one

) unvote per post starting from now.

UNVOTE: shikifor watching the movie.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

call it a feeling but shiki's tone is kinda townie

she also mindmelded with us in holding bugspray in high regards. Cosmic's spent a lot of time reading through bugspray games and likes to call himself the "bug-whispherer"

~Esper

[Conspire]

I like the RRS Ame is doing rn

~Esper

[Conspire]

Ame is madoka I'm assuming?

How could you tell?

「(°ヘ°)

~Esper

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Double Shot Espresso" Agent Cosmic here, finishing up in the warehouse.

We find

Ame

to be in her

comrade

mindset, however we do not believe all her conclusions to be

correct

- in particular, her analysis on shiki. We think looking too deeply with too much confidence leads to misguided opinions.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Double Shot Espresso" Agent Cosmic here again, going back to retrieve his wallet.

UNVOTE: Ame

This is our 1 (

one

) unvote. We are reconsidering our earlier proposal as we feel we need to tighten security. Those cops could be anywhere!

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

(BEGIN OOC)



Bugspray? How ever did you find my identity? I have been extremely stealthy thus far.

(END OOC)

[Conspire]

I did fabricate my townlean on Shiki, I wanted to round out and balance my list and I don't really townread anybody

I kind of had to scrounge deep to round out my list.

Why did you do this, Isis?

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Ico Ico Ico <3

Are you admitting your reasons for scumreading people don't make sense as town or scum? How much do you actually believe your Isis and Ame scum pings then?

~Esper

[Conspire]

My townread is Iconeum thanks for asking I am interested in your thoughts also

why do you townread him?

~Esper

[Conspire]

@shiki; Cosmic was wondering earlier what your read on Mr Pink is so far

~Esper

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Extra Milky Tea" Agent Cosmic here, polishing a gun.

@Mod; What happened to the votes from Votecount 1.01?

So far, we think

Iconeum

is a

null

. His confidence is a playstyle, and, following a background check, he has indeed made surface pushes as scum and town. Scum being Strawberry, and town being Micro Normal 892. We will continue to monitor him closely.

this gives me all kinds of tingles

Please elaborate on the "tingles".

@Jake; We demand some insight.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

VOTE: unvote all
VOTE: Isis
VOTE: Iconeum

Mr Pink! I take this is for the

slip

?

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Extra Milky Tea" Agent Cosmic here, doing a backflip.

Apologies, we glossed over the previous post.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Shiki did you roll scum this game??

what part of her post made you say this before you finished reading?

~Esper

[Conspire]

ehhh I'm actually a little more unsure on Ame now :c

@Ame; I need to know how serious your readslist was or which ones were serious or RRS

~Esper

[Conspire]

Hey, Freddy! I've been waiting for you to show up. What the fuck happened? The fuckin cops showed up out of nowhere.

silly professional... that's not Freddie; it's Nice Guy Eddie!

@Eddie; as your father, I want you to know that we have similar thoughts on Mr Pink and we're happy you're following in our (we have multiple personalities) footsteps . Keep up the great work, and don't get too mixed up with Vik.

~Esper

[Conspire]

UNVOTE: Conspire

~Esper

[Conspire]

I'm prejudiced against Isis because she makes mafia enjoyable when it should make me hate everyone (๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)*

~Esper

[Conspire]

@shiki; since you're our son, who do you think is fit to take on the diamond heist? and don't you dare suggest Vic or the woman who shot Mr Orange

~Esper

[Conspire]

ok now I want a flavor massclaim just from the offchance this was a scumslip

how could this be a scumslip?

~Esper

[Conspire]

RRS is random reads stage, Ame. if they're just exploratory and you're trying to progress the game that's fine! btw I like this overconfident direct playstyle

on Ame-shiki: shiki has used "Hm" in other games, so I don't think subconsiously replicating it is an AI thing. shiki concluding Ame wanted shiki to scumread Ame because of Ame randomly hard scumreading shiki is a weird assumption to make as the only town-motivated reason Ame could have. town!Ame could just have a strong read early or be exagerrating her reads in the way she described when she said she's intentionally using second person to talk about reads. the second option would mean she's looking for reactions for example.

I believe shiki's explanation for her light hearted and less serious tone early.

@shiki; why assume she specifically wanted you to scumread her if she was town? why didn't you consider whether she wanted you to realise she was putting on a play and townread her for reaction-testing, or something else?

Ame's take that shiki si posting filler with regards to her Mr Pink read I don't agree with. Especially since she was rewording her posts so that Isis could better understand her in 167.

@Ame; why is this scum-motivated "appearing to solve" rather than town-motivated "trying to stay transparent"?

I kinda lean town on both but ftr I haven't talked to Cosmic about what he thinks yet.

~Esper ✿

[Conspire]

@RCENIGMA; DO NOT DODGE MY QUESTION

~Esper ✿

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Extra Milky Tea" Agent Cosmic here, suffering from a

headache

.

Can anyone find a cure for my

headache

? There will be rewards.

Will catch up soon.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Transcranial magnetic stimulation as a migraine headache treatment is now approved by the FDA.

Will this work for both heads or just one?

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

i have a headache as well ???

is there some kind of conspiracy going on here

~Esper

[Conspire]

VOTE: Ame
VOTE: Conspire
HEAL: shiki
HEAL: Enter
HEAL: bugspray
VOTE: Something_Smart

Enter I now have an excuse not to watch your movie shiki spoiled it for me

Enter should I lynch her?

VOTE: Conspire

I will actually VOTE: Conspire

it's so deviant and exciting

I don't think I've ever voted a Hectic b4

Except as scum

~Esper

[Conspire]

Ame is madoka I'm assuming?

How could you tell?

「(°ヘ°)

~Esper

@RCEnigma; this question

~Esper

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Mocha Frappuccino" Agent Cosmic here, building a house of cards.

@Ame; Concerning

shiki

, what do you think would be a

town

reaction to your push?

@Jake; We demand MORE.

My headache persists. If any

one

else has any suggestions, please speak up. Esper is also suffering. Help us.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

This is our 1 (

one

) unvote.

UNVOTE: Iconeum

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

thereisnohecticthereisnokannathereisnohecticthereisnokannathereisnohecticthereisnokannathereisnohecticthereisnokannathereisnohecticthereisnokannathereisnohecticthereisnokanna

[Conspire]

@Ame; shiki had good reasoning/evidence of thoughts for why she wanted adopt a more lighthearted playstle, so I think her decision to play like that is NAI.

~Esper

[Conspire]

Spoiler: Reservoir Dog spoilers

Good idea, Isis. I didn't realise we could just use these to converse to make up for the lack of daytalk. What do you think of pushing S_S? it could be useful to get him out of the way early.

nice to see things are happening! catching up on this now

~Esper

[Conspire]

oh intersting, i have a headache as well, but it's ok since i've been taking some Metal Powder recently

~Esper

[Conspire]

i agree with what Ame is saying here. i struggle to believe RCEnigma actually thought scum!Isis would be trying to go for a townslip by stating there's 3 scum in a 9 player setup, especially when it's pretty obvious it was a joke with the mod being included.

@RCEnigma; you mentioned you think Isis is mechically smort and wouldn't make a mistake like that. so why is your conclusion scum!her is going for a pretty dumb slip which should be unbelievable given her reputation, rather than her making a harmless joke?

going to check the votes

~Esper

[Conspire]

oh i forgot we were voting for everyone

(¬_¬)*

~Esper

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Caramel Macchiato" Agent Cosmic here, roaming the streets.

Forward my calls to Esper. RCE will not be our unvote.

UNVOTE: Isis

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Please enlighten us.

Jake snapped back into this reality.

VOTE: SS & Isis
UNVOTE: Conspire

"If you see the truth, you will see how my actions are beneficial."

VOTE: unvote all
VOTE: iconeum
VOTE: ame

VOTE: isis

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

@RCEnigma; could you roleplay the anime character in your pfp for your next 3 posts? thanks!

~Esper

[Conspire]

Mr Pink is towny for his roleplay but we'd still like explanation for his last few votes

~Esper

[Conspire]

assuming "Kanna" and "Hectic" are even in the game; who's Hectic and who's Kanna?

Ame or S_S could be Kanna for all we know

maybe we're popsofctown and Isis is a Hectic alt

「(°ヘ°)

~Esper

[Conspire]

i am pretty sure something smart is town here. i do not think this is how scum would choose to engage with the game upon noticing that they were not doing so, especially when talking to iconeum for half an hour or asking conspire a directional question that they will likely answer and one can follow up on are options.

why do you think those are less desirable options for S_S if he's town? or rather why would we be more inclined to do those if he was scum? i do agree with what he's saying on Jake though

btw it's your turn to RP now. i'm going last

~Esper

[Conspire]

ngl, i didn't get that. could you repeat what you said but while roleplaying as Nice Guy Eddie or Shiki Ryougi? i think it might help me sync to your *wavelength* and get where you're coming from more

~Esper

[Conspire]

Double Triple "Mocha Frappuccino" Agent Cosmic here, wondering what just happened.

Anyway, since this is over, we want to be

transparent

in our

shiki

comrade-read. Her play here is more similar to her towngame, we think.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Conspire - would lynch

Why us, Iconeum?

p-edit:

Spoiler:

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

The ghost of the great Kaptain will haunt me for as long as I live for I have sinned.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

Mr Pink is towny for his roleplay but we'd still like explanation for his last few votes

~Esper

Why give Pinky towncredit for roleplaying and not the Wolf?

Did we really say that? Must be some cosmic divination.

I don't know if Esper agrees on

Jake

, however

I

do think Mr Pink is more comradely. He showed critical thinking here:

That's amateur shit. I see what you two are doing! A real professional like myself knows how to spot cahoots and you are in it! Don't think you can hop on a

Spoiler: bus

111

and ride out of town and lay low at a motel while this shitstorm passes and then mosey on down back to the prescinct.

Jake's play however, leaves something to be desired. Cops having trouble coming up with reads is possible, no?

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

VOTE: Jake the Wolfie
VOTE: RCEnigma

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

The ghost of the great Kaptain will haunt me for as long as I live for I have sinned.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

Update: Esper has now left me and I am a lone criminal wolf.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

people who roll town are cuter

u should complain to enter

(/_\ ) oh no oh no

~Esper

[Conspire]

that's in reference to Isis' sig...

Azelf, you were too good for this world, though i guess we contributed to killing you because someone voted for you (¬_¬)

~Esper

[Conspire]

The ghost of the great Kaptain will haunt me for as long as I live for I have sinned.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

Update: Esper has now left me and I am a lone criminal wolf.

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

the Phantom Kaptain has returned to haunt you one more time. i scumread Cosmic, we're planning to 1v1 soon

~Esper

[Conspire]

i still scumread RCEnigma for the same reasons as yesterday

I don't think this town is bad but this is like hard-boiled all over again. I don't have the energy to lead town to back to back losses.

VOTE: Ame
VOTE: Isis
VOTE: Jake
VOTE: conspire

you said at the start of the game you find it hard to read us and Isis. are your reads on us just based on us pushing you, or do you have other reasons?

Same I'll level with you. I don't think you're scum I think you're burying yourself in a tunnel. With that said if it comes down to you or me, it won't be me.

also you said Ame was town here, so why are you voting her now?

~Esper

[Conspire]

o/

@Ame; I think we had 4 votes on RCEnigma before you unvoted. why are you so worried?

~Esper

[Conspire]

We thought you didn't preflip solve, Isis?

@Ame; thanks for the high praise! i'll try and be a Knight to e5 for this game. does your confidence in us come from your confidence in RCEnigma!scum, and us helping you push him? or is it an independent read?

~Esper ♤

[Conspire]

how would they coordinate that without day chat, shiki? Ame has no way of knowing that Isis has a way of lolhammering S_S while making it look like an accident

~Esper ♤

[Conspire]

have you had any more dreams about dsjstr, Ame? he's back on the site now!

~Esper

[Conspire]

@Isis; could you explain why you scumread my sunglasses-wielding friend? we're gonna try and compile our thoughts soon because we've been disagreeing in places

~Esper

[Conspire]

✿ we should talk about our reads, cosmic

✧ One sec, let me just finish up speedrunning Mario's FUNdamentals. Absolute classic.

✿ no, didn't you hear what ame was calling me earlier? the

Great Uniter

, let's do this now

✧ Fine, whatever, I was losing this checkers game anyway. Want to start with Ame then?

✿ i think i find her slightly suspicious for continuing to tunnel shiki. i townread her for looking like she believed in it before, but after you showed her that meta you linked earlier, she still hasn't shown any sign of changing her mind. i'm wondering if she looked at it

✧ Interesting, got anything else?

✿ yeah, also, shiki brought up a good point. the s_s lynch looks like joke-accident on the surface, but what if it's not? ame is the kind of player (in my mind) that is very dedicated to her wincon and i think she would've had a bigger reaction to the s_s lynch as town, you know what i mean? maybe ame would care more? or have a bit of remorse. but scum!her (like in hungarian) kind of just goes planning her next lynch

✧ I don't know, I kinda like Ame because this feels pretty different from her scumgame, though she's probably good at adapting her meta. Also, she's obviously disaligned with RCEnigma unless they're hard bussing, and he's a pretty scummy anime pfp. But why don't ask her about that other stuff then?

✿ okay, i'll ask her about it in my next post

✧ Could just ask about it here.

✿ what do you mean?

✧ I mean, just say it out loud here. Maybe she'll hear you through the telepathic bond you two have formed over the years.

✿ ???

✧ It's fineee, just do it

✿ (눈‸눈)
okay... Ame; have you had a look at the meta we linked? and is there any reason you came in day 2 not commenting on the hammer or S_S lynch at all?

✧ To be continued.

✿ what?

[Conspire]

✿ what are you doing, cosmic??

✧ Nothing. What's wrong?

✿ don't play dumb, i'm talking about that last post. didn't you see what happened to the last pokemon who RPed?
also i'm not sure if i want my unfiltered thoughts out like that

✧ Yeah, but Azelf's moveset is clearly inferior to Espeon and Umbreon. You think Azelf can use growl?? But fine, I won't do it again.

✿ good

✧ On an unrelated note, what do you think of shiki so far?

✿ hmm? basically what i said earlier. this feels like town!her from hungarian, and not really scum!her from coc. her freeflowing-ness is more similar to her towngame

✧ Oh yeah, I forgot we agreed on that. Ja, her lack of caution and increased engagement is pretty town-indicative. Also, Ame got back to us on the meta thing btw; she says she'll have a look at it later.

✿ ok coolio. WAIT... i'm not

in

the RP right now, am i?

✧ No, of course not. How would that make any sense? We're just talking normally right now.

✿ oh true

[Conspire]

✧ So, is that all?

✿ hmm not quite; you wanna hear something controversial?

✧ How could I say no to that?

✿ jake feels scummy to me. there's something about him that makes me feel like he's scum finding it hard to come up with reads and end up lurking. another weird feeling i have is that his confidence (with the roleplay) is faked.

✧ Inconceivable! ....But go on....

✿ but the thing is, i've been wrong on this before - recently in fact - just look at the baezu in hungarian. although, in the same circumstance, i'd think i'd do it again. he's either scum, or someone i can't trust.

✧ What about Mr Pink then?

✿ it's just different i guess, his confidence seems more real to me.

✧ I will agree on a comrade-read on Mr Pink.

[Conspire]

MY

HEAD

ACHE...IT BURNS! Perhaps this is a curse!

*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧Cosmic

[Conspire]

THEREISNOHECTICTHEREISNOKANNATHEREISNOHECTICTHEREISNOKANNATHEREISNOHECTICTHEREISNOKANNATHEREISNOHECTICTHEREISNOKANNA

[Conspire]

✧ 670 is amazing, I hope she knows I think the same of her <3
Also, you know what I was saying about how I was never going to townread Isis again?

✿ yeah?

✧ Well, I'm townreading her.

✿ nah she's obvscum, you don't see it?

✧ What?? I thought I mentioned this earlier; she has a "fun tell", remember? She's having way too much fun in this game to be scum.

✿ nope she's lockscum for me. sad you're on a different wavelength to me, cosmic

✧ Oh... I see what you're doing here. You're trying to mess with my RP, aren't you?

✿ HA i knew it. i had a feeling i was in the RP right now. all you're going to get from me now is contradictory opinions. you did this to yourself

✧

grumble grumble

We'll see if you can be on alert at all times...

✿ WAIT

[Conspire]

✧ What?

✿ before you post the RP, shouldn't you tell Isis you're not scum?

✧ Oh, I already posted it. We're in a new one now.

✿ sigh
well just do it here then

✧ How do you know for a fact I'm not scum though? What if I got our scum role PM, quickly photoshopped it to a town one and sent you a screenshot, and you never double checked by viewing our messages?

✿ ...

✧ Also, I deleted the message so you'll never know for sure now.

✿ ..................
i'm messaging the mod

✧ I'm not scum, Isis.

[Conspire]

oh wow you've put 3 people on L-1 all at once, impressive.

can you say your order of preference of lynching in those 3, Jake?

~Esper

[Conspire]

is anyone else getting a lot of site lag rn?

~Esper

[Conspire]

I think Ame's town for the last couple of pages? It's an entirely tonal/emotional read; I don't think Ame would use this kind of emotional manipulation and resort to saying stuff like this if she was scum:

Listen pops I would never compliment you if I were scum. I avoid expressing admiration when I'm scum because I don't want people to think I'm manipulating them. Look at my last scum game, Hungarian 2. I was very cold because I really like Shiki and Farkran but I felt bad manipulating them so I kept a distance. I love you pops. I wouldn't use that to manipulate you.

She doesn't strike me as the sort of person to use AtE like that as scum. Overnight, Cosmic & Esper thought it was probably Ame + Jake, but now Jake + Ico/Pink? Isis is probably still town.

@Ame; where does this confidence of Jake flipping town come from? I struggle to see him flipping town.

~Eevees

[Conspire]

Jake is probably scum for this:

Jake, in a moment of self-preservation, threw out three daggers, all with the word "vote" on them. They stuck to the table, next to three people.

VOTE: RCEnigma
VOTE: Isis
VOTE: Ame

"You wanted me to vote RCE and Isis, yes? Here they are."

It's a last ditch "put 3 people on L-1 as a last act of survivalalism". Also, I think this makes Isis/Ame more town if Jake flips scum. If Jake's scum with one of Isis/Ame, I think he's more likely to just put RCEnigma alone on L-1. Putting exactly the two town of those 3 on L-1, but not his scum buddy would look sus, and putting everyone on L-1 if he's scum with one of them is risky for obvious reasons; both scum are then on L-1.

@Jake; what are your individual reads on those 3?

VOTE: Jake

~Eevees

[Conspire]

Conspire is very cognizant this pops person exists even though the Kanna and Hectic people don't

Who's pops?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Ame was pretty clinical as scum in purg
being aware of the tendency removes its townspew effect though.

You think her play here is similar to that game? I thought she was very methodical and less emotional there from what I saw.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Jake isn't just scum for that, but that's the scummiest thing he's done. You say you can't see Jake being scum because you can't see scum not efforting at all, but can you see town being so afraid to give out reads and take stances? At first, I thought his lack of reads over making something up might've been town-indicative earlier on, but he's banked on it and continued to not do so for the rest of the game.

I think he's actually just avoiding putting himself out there with reads.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

And your reasoning for excluding Isis and Ame as partners with him seems quite forced and unreasonable:

Why? Also, what made you think I was excluding over considering it a factor?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

It's not TMI, Ame. I don't think it fits your character from what I've played with you.

Also, it kind of reminded me of eyestott trying to appeal to me as a person and use emotion over logic to get me to side with him in chiptune. I think in general town do it a lot more often than scum, probably due to a combination of scum feeling worse/dirtier about it, and town feeling no shame.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

I am scared of Jake

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Ame, could you also explain where the paranoia of my townreading you comes from? Given you said this:

See. It's obvious it was meant to frame us. We have to stick together. Conspire will town read me. With you, we can win this. We just need to get Jake out of the way so we'll have the numerical advantage and can lynch Ico.

The reasons we thought you were scum overnight were:
You seem far too confident about your reads. You'd essentially townlocked us and Isis, and were assuming Jake was town and calculating LyLos based on ALL 3 of us being town and mislynching Jake.
Also, I should ask you: Why did you ask us whether you should just hammer Jake EoD 2? Would you have done it had we said yes?

The RCEnigma read we sympathised with btw, since we also thought he was really scummy for the whole Isis townslip thing.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

It's not TMI, Ame. I don't think it fits your character from what I've played with you.

Also, it kind of reminded me of eyestott trying to appeal to me as a person and use emotion over logic to get me to side with him in chiptune. I think in general town do it a lot more often than scum, probably due to a combination of scum feeling worse/dirtier about it, and town feeling no shame.

~Celestial

you misspelled "non-LLD scum"

What's LLD?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Yes! I was in Chiptune under the alt of Churros.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

I feel like the first time someone does something very emotionally manipulative as scum, you consider all future instances as NAI. But now that I think about it, if you don't fake it as scum every once in a while, would that not start to qualify as an unintentional trust tell?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Ame, you went from townlocking us overnight to now wanting to lynch us??? Could you answer my questions please?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Ame, you went from townlocking us overnight to now wanting to lynch us??? Could you answer my questions please?

~Celestial

No. Unless you are Kanna, then yes.

Why?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

I don't get Ame at all, but I also don't get the angle she's taking here if scum where she starts scumreading us for thinking she might be town. If she's scum, then maybe:

She thinks she's going down and she's trying to anti spew.
She doesn't see herself winning in LyLo while townreading us, so needs to have us a mislynch candidate.
She thinks this sudden turns gets her townread for a lack of survivalism?

Ame, are you mad at me at something? Why won't you answer the questions?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Is Enter the type of mod to be open to haggling? Mail him a BluRay copy of the movie real quick; maybe it's not too late to recruit a third member, a double agent.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Maybe even a quadruple one.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

It's not. What made you think it could be?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Ame, what if I compiled the important questions into one of those fancy surveys you like to do? I'm not trying to frame you as scum, I'm trying to figure you out.
Enchantress is really busy for the next few days.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

:O

That was exactly what I was referring to, Isis. I ask that you please leave my head at once, and return to the Rare Egg Machine.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Just these two actually:

And your reasoning for excluding Isis and Ame as partners with him seems quite forced and unreasonable:

1) Could you explain why? Also, what made you think I was excluding over considering it a factor?

2) You were alarmed by my reasons for townreading you. Do you disagree with my reasoning for the emotional read, and why if so? I expanded on it in 751.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

I don't want to go back! I'm fully hatched Celestial!

Only took you 12 years to learn your own name

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Someone should hammer Jake. I think this flips scum.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Also, I was reISOing you Jake and I just want to say I adore the RP. It's a mixture of interesting and bizzarely hilarious. Just want you to know that.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

THERE SI N OT HEC TKAN ANA KEHEC
...
sorry about that, don't know what happened there!

Yeah, RP is always great in any game, just makes the game overall more enjoyable to read. Do you ever try and mask your alignment with RP? I think it should be left alone as a fun tool and not used to manipulate (๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)✧

~Celestial

[Conspire]

If Isis or Ame was Jake's partner, putting them at L-1 wouldn't be risky since they could just hammer one of the other people at L-1. Additionally, if he felt he was going down, it would make sense to anti-spew there. I am not using the word 'excluding' in the hard sense. I am using it in the sense that it is synonymous with 'considering it a factor.'

I do disagree with the reasoning for the emotional read. That series of posts was out of character with anything I've presented thus far on this site. I haven't posted that way as either town or scum. If you thought I was scum over the night, it doesn't make sense to me that that alone was enough to reverse your read.

Thanks!
on 1, that doesn't take into account that scum!Isis or Ame would look terrible for hammering the other over Jake, since it wouldn't be consistent with their earlier reads.

On 2, it's not a "i've seen ame do this as town but not scum" read. it's a "i think ame would avoid doing this as scum and it feels genuine here" read. I don't really know how to explain it more than that. Our read on you wasn't super confident overnight btw, mostly we just scumread Jake.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

I strongly suspect I'm harder to read if I RP, so that presents kind of a conundrum. Since Scumsman was a goofy game it is the only one I RP'ed hardcore in, and I planned to do it from before the game started. Doing it specifically because I rolled scum seems kind of dirty.

In Death List MariaR started roleplaying and I joined in a little bit and it probably helped me since I was scum but it was her idea ok!?!?!?!

S_S would want you to RP at least once here, Isis; he was the inspiration for our RP. Maybe you could RP as s_s for a post, shouldn't be too hard.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

:O we're scary??

~Celestial

[Conspire]

I think that's the first time I've seen you use a mafiascum emoji, I'm sorry if I broke your streak of abstinence. 8/10 RP btw

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Ame, you were already voting RCE but that's a fair point about Isis.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Ame, you were already voting RCE but that's a fair point about Isis.

~Celestial

i'm obvtown tho

town pings from this

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Code: Select all

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pretty proud of that

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Maybe the flavour in the VCs is telling us something. Mr Blonde appears to be frustrated in 930. Who's Mr Blonde and why are you in distress?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

@Pink; why did you think it was only a double lynch for Day 1?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

I think it might be exactly Jake + Ico.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Oh dear.

Mr. Enter: Is it too late to ask for a reroll?

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Suddenly, this game doesn't make any sense. We're going to reread and try to make sense of stuff later. For now: I'm sorry, Jake; I should've realised you were a criminal from the way you haphazardly flung those knives around.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

Would it be better to try to lynch the not-Ame not-Jake scum first? I think Conspire does kind of work with either one as scum. I could like, think about stuff more.

I can't give Ame a pass for the wagonomics of making Jake lynchable when Jake has done the exact same thing in the derpy triple L1 format.

I think we agree there's very likely 1 scum in ame/jake, yes? If we lynch outside of this and are wrong, we need to get it right with the second lynch whereass if we settle this bracket, we can amend our mistake with the second lynch and be more informed where to lynch outside of them.

But if you insist on *not* settling it now then Conspire is where I'd vote yes.

me + isis + the town in conspire/pink all need to vote ame today

it's as simple as that
but i'm not in a great place deciding between conspire and pink

so if you guys could help me out that would be awesome kthx

Could you explain why you scumread us over Pink, Ico? In that first quote you say you'd vote us over Pink, but in the second you say you don't know.

~Celestial

[Conspire]

So, we lose if the scumteam is Isis and Pink. I don't think that's the case, so this is probably fine?

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

Oh yeah, because of no daychat, it's actually going to be kind of difficult for scum to quickhammer. It might be worth sitting around with an unvote ready at random times if you catch my drift.

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

Isis, would you say you're out of your scumrange?

Kindred is very busy with her RPGs currently, she'll be back in a couple of days and then we're going to read through everything and you'll see a 100% accurate game solve from us. Probably.

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

o/ mysterious k here!

i've come back from a long journey and my curse has now been lifted. will post some thoughts soon.

~k

[Conspire]

will post some thoughts soon.

no salt but eh

those thoughts better be game related -_-

gosh darn, i was going to post my thoughts on Your Turn to Die :c

~k

[Conspire]

The fact that Ico voted Ame and the game has not ended means something, but I'm too tired to think rn

~k

[Conspire]

This might compromise our secret identity, but clidd isn't in this hydra, Pink.

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

You're voting us because you

haven't

felt we're scum this game?

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

Can't you wait a few days pink?

^

We'll probably get to this tonight.

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

Alright, still, could you unvote? We have plenty of time and we lose if 2 of [Ico, Ame, Isis] are scum. Let's use the time please.

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

I think this is a town slip. And I think it is genuine. I think Pink is town.

Hey, Ame, I don't like your confidence here. If genuine, why was that a townslip? Scum could also be confused about the setup, unless they were specifically planning out mislynches/path to victory during the time they could talk in night 1.

~Hoplite

[Conspire]

~thoughts~

I think the thing I'm most confident in right now is that Isis/Ico aren't scum together. Their interactions look too organic + I don't think scum usually take the hard buddying route, so it's very likely there's *at least* one town here. TvT/TvS i'm less sure, but a wise doggo once told me there's usually one scum and i've seen that be correct (granted, this is just one time so). if there is scum, i think it's more likely Isis based on buddy-er/buddy-ee. for individual reads, i find both kind of townie based on feel. i'll have to dig deeper to see why/if i still feel the same way. overall, i'd rather not risk everything betting on one or the other.

that leaves ame/pink, which from POE means there's at least one scum here. we recently played with scum!ame in partition and i don't think she's out of her scumrange. but i do want to hear her case first before making a better read. Ame, take it away!

~enlightened

[Conspire]

also, nevermind about the vote. couldn't come up with any conclusions.

~enlightened

[Conspire]

conspire would really appreciate you take a stance on this game now

it's fucking time

Sorry, we’ve both been semi-busy. Ico, we’ve just taken a stance that there’s at most one scum in Isis/Ico and at least one scum in pink/ame (or I did). I think I have a maybe% chance of reading Ame after partition + Hungarian but I don’t want to give too much away on that yet.

@Pink; where did Isis push you before lylo?

~enlightened

[Conspire]

I think this is a town slip. And I think it is genuine. I think Pink is town.

Hey, Ame, I don't like your confidence here. If genuine, why was that a townslip? Scum could also be confused about the setup, unless they were specifically planning out mislynches/path to victory during the time they could talk in night 1.

~Hoplite

Also Ame, I want to know this too.

~enlightened

[Conspire]

those posts are brainworm

pedit jake is dead?

Not a fan of this lul

becaus ei always fuck up lylo scum would absolutely want me alive for lylo and would never ever want to lynch me. THEREFORE why would isis push me just before lylo? it just doesnt make sense

Pink, you're saying you've never been mislynched by scum before lylo? If town!you was mislynched a day before lylo, I'd say Jake was a perfect candidate for scum to get mislynched in lylo, probably a lot easier actually. Do you still townread Isis considering the context of this game?

~Hexblade

[Conspire]

VOTE: Fire Sneakers

Now, this is a vote I can get behind. Don't hammer yet.

~Hexblade

[Conspire]

Conspire if you think there is only one scum in Isis/Ico you should just start treating Ico as town, because if it is scum, one of your town teammates is throwing the game 100% of the time, so that universe doesn't matter.

Doesn't preclude you from believing I'm scum, though, as far as I can tell.

Right... I think I get what you mean. Maybe. Right now though, I definitely don't want to lynch in either of you today anyway. Got bounties on Pink and Ame.

~Hexblade

[Conspire]

Pink + Ame
Pink + Isis
Ame + Ico
Ame + Isis
Pink + Ico
Isis + Ico

I think this makes some sense.

~Hexblade

[Conspire]

Pink + Ame
Pink + Isis
Ame + Isis
Ame + Ico
Pink + Ico
Isis + Ico

Actually, Ame + Ico and Ame + Isis should be switched around. Ico gunned hard for Ame to get lynched earlier today, and yesterday.

Pink + Ico is less likely from recent interactions. That emotion felt real, whether it's coming from scum or town!Pink.

~Hexblade

[Conspire]

What are you doing to these poor people, Isis.

~Hex

[Conspire]

Do you really think she's serious, Ame?

~Hex

[Conspire]

Fire sneakers is clearly loved today. Isis is just trolling, the vote put them on L-1.

~Hex

[Conspire]

Really? My eyebrows raised after reading that post. I don't think Ame would sincerely think you were trying to manipulate the mods in bad faith.

~Hex

[Conspire]

hold up, hold up i have something to say.

Ame, I want to ask you one thing: did you look at Ico's meta earlier?

~enlightened

[Conspire]

This is something I have personal experience with and I can get into that later

~enlightened

[Conspire]

I'll need to think about things

~enlightened

[Conspire]

Expect a post soon-ish. It'll include something I wanted to tell Ame about for a while. It'll be ~enlightening~ (maybe)

p-edit: oki dokie!

~enlightened

[Conspire]

so basically what i found so interesting about Ame's push is that I recently made the exact same push here. and by the same, i mean really really similar.

TLDR; I looked through Ico’s meta (Town: Mini Normal 2119, Insect Religion, Scum: Strawberry, Hard Boiled Eggs) and I think this is scum!ico. Scum!Ico focuses on scumreads + feels agendy with pushing (usually on something surface), while town!ico focuses on townreads + feels a lot less agenda-y

Also there is a single direct parallel in strawberry that i find kinda scummy which I didn’t point out at the time (obviously)

VOTE: Iconeum

~enlightened

[Conspire]

for reference:

Iconeum, yes I have. I researched your town games during strawberry and I kept up with your play in Mini Normal 2119. Your town play is focused on developing town reads. Your scum play is focused on making pushes. Furthermore, you push players for incredibly superficial reasons as scum as you did on myself and Isis here. It is likely you are scum.

down to the more scumreads/townreads thing!

~enlightened

[Conspire]

so like, I can understand where the push is coming from because I also tunneled Ico in that game (but let's not get too into that because i'm still sad), but it was town there. I feel like I have a point here but I haven't got it sorted out so give me a while please

~enlightened

p-edit: I KNOW

[Conspire]

even if this wasn't a point, I'd need to tell you in some way though

~enlightened

[Conspire]

@Eup; Ico has this special brand of deathtunneling in the scumgames I’ve seen (mainly gonna use strawberry here) where he picks a target and picks at nai stuff/small inconsistencies rather than reasons for someone being *scum* He’s good at that.

~enlightened

[Conspire]

Some part of me wants to think this push is town because I did the same thing, but I think it could also be a scum-push. This is just how Ico plays.

~enlightened

[Conspire]

I'm not done yet

~enlightened

[Conspire]

~tunnels~

Spoiler:

VOTE: doctorpepper

The scum being in those positions thing was obviously a joke. Also don't rolefish kids.

Yeah I'll choose to take it seriously.


Besides the bigger ping was 22.

VOTE: pepper

I still have Euphonia as my top scum read tho that may be because I'm super annoyed by the posting style.

i don't see you trying to sort said read tho

I can't seem to get anything off Aldus or Iconeum

lol

*insert generic statement* /pepper

how's my pepper case on a scale of 1 to dragon?

pedit: err, other than t

aking the obvious joke post seriously

, what's your case rn?

yes

bonus:

Spoiler:

Bruh, this is like the worst tunnel ever

Out of curiosity, what meta did you do of Ico, Ame? Would this change your mind at all?

~enlightened

[Conspire]

for context, QQ was "low hanging fruit". Ico went straight in on him.

Spoiler:

VOTE: IconeumAFKThe most silent is the most suspect given the circumstances.

what circumstances?

In other news, vote Iconeum obvious afk player 1 the usual shebang.

this is so low-effort and pingy to me that i think i just wanny lynch you today

fortunately for you the other scum will get peppered first

This post in particular is direct parallel:

Spoiler:

then alternatively come join the QQ wagon ~perhaps a good ol wagon can get your reads fired up

sure.

VOTE: QuantumQuasar

ok im actually mildly shocked you did that but let me just sit on that for a bit

ask and you shall receive.

doubt that was s/s interaction
definitely a good read

Datisi says it best here, really and after COC, I guess I understand.

i think the longer i'm looking back the more i'm townreading ico based on shit i know is NAI and i don't know how i feel about it

ah the classic 'wtf this has to be scum, but it's Ico so it's probably NAI' moments?

it's actually the other classic "wtf this has to be scum, but it's ico and town!ico does that, and realistically it is very nai but i have seen town!ico do that and i want ico to be town with me so we can finally win a game together so it's town" moment.

~enlightened

[Conspire]

double-clicked submit @_@. But please answer this:

Out of curiosity, what meta did you do of Ico, Ame?

Also, what's your experience with Iconeum?

~enlightened

[Conspire]

Games read/played, yes.

and no....there is no kanna, remember?

~enlightened

[Conspire]

Hectic and Kanna will try to roleplay eachother, at least Hectic will roleplay Kanna, but I think Kanna has transitioned out of Hectic's Hecticrange here with lots of little things, like the use of ellipses, asking "please" instead of being brutish, and pediting transparency

How insulting.

I'm pretty sure I use ellipses all the time.

~Hex

[Conspire]

I think you'll find my range is limitless and I've never even had an alt account outed in all my time on mafiascum; that's how good my RP/switching of characters is. I once RPed Radiant Cowbells RPing firebringer RPing mastina succesfully. People were convinced it was RC RPing firebringer RPing mastina and they sheeped all my reads, leading us to a flawless scum victory (I was town).

~Hex

[Conspire]

becaus ei always fuck up lylo scum would absolutely want me alive for lylo and would never ever want to lynch me. THEREFORE why would isis push me just before lylo? it just doesnt make sense

Is this the push that convinced you Isis was town based on the logic above:

Bugspray hated hammering townies as scum. That's his meta, to me

VOTE: unvote isis

That's how I know you are the real deal, Isis. There's a reason I ain't pointing my gun your way no more. I trust you a lot more. Do you still want me to fire the shot at Jake? I'm kinda feelin' it now.

Because I don't see that as much of a push at all. All she's doing is commenting on a similarity of what you're doing there with a previous instance of you being scum. If anything, by your logic, it actually points towards her indicating some suspicion of you for lylo AFTER Jake is mislynched.

~Hex

[Conspire]

UNVOTE:

What convinced you to unvote here, Ico? You seemed certain and deadset on Ame!scum. Isis wasn't asking you to unvote, and neither were we. This is what Ame said:

But most likely Ico is just scum and was banking on Isis to quick follow his vote.

So why did you?

~Hex

[Conspire]

Isis, outside of Ico, how would you actually rank Conspire/Pink/Ame in terms of reads?

~Hex

[Conspire]

Setting the mood.

~Hex

[Conspire]

I don't think this town is bad but this is like hard-boiled all over again. I don't have the energy to lead town to back to back losses.

VOTE: Ame
VOTE: Isis
VOTE: Jake
VOTE: conspire

We require a Great Uniter.

i suggest mr pink.

ame voted something smart after saying she would not lynch anyone other than me or rcenigma, which was then narrowed to only rcenigma. isis hammered something smart without questioning ame's vote. ame did not question isis's doing so despite having just scumread me for saying i wanted to hammer jake. neither of them seemingly scumread something smart the most and neither of them have seemed to gain any knowledge from the lynch they orchestrated other than something smart's alignment. then they just went back to voting rcenigma. and now ame is self-voting and saying town is fractured which seems to be the situation she intentionally created?

this simply does not feel right.

VOTE: ame
VOTE: isis

that's l-1 for ame and l-2 for isis.

VOTE: Ame

VOTE: Isis

VOTE: Conspire

You've been caught, Ame + Isis. Systematically murdering all of your suspecters while you perform a play for all of us, eh? We're there a couple of times but that's just a conspiracy. Azelf isn't here because he didn't place a single vote this game.

~Hex

[Conspire]

Pink, could you address 1253 and 1400 please?

~Hex

[Conspire]

She didn't push or vote you before lylo though.

~Hex

[Conspire]

When you're off your phone or whatever, show me where you thought she pushed you before lylo please/

~Hex

[Conspire]

Take it easy, bugspray!

~Hex

[Conspire]

Also bugspray if there was any signaling going on, it was the post by Conspire here:

VOTE: ame

Oh yeah, because of no daychat, it's actually going to be kind of difficult for scum to quickhammer.

It might be worth sitting around with an un

vote

ready at random times

if you catch my drift

.

~Hoplite

That post would be a hilariously obvious signal lol

I don't think scum try and signal each other for quickhammers; I don't think it's really worth the risk. UNLESS, they already established some kind of code in their chat with a predetermined timestamp per different code phrases or something like that.

~Hex

[Conspire]

Yes but the

intent

was different. You knew you were voting a player. My intention was to

vote

for a fake

player

.

It's interesting that you're trying to have the

game end

though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x

9

lSQ

1

SFLE

well well well

Intent to vote to end game at 9:10?

~Hex

[Conspire]

If Isis or Ame was Jake's partner, putting them at L-1 wouldn't be risky since they could just hammer one of the other people at L-1. Additionally, if he felt he was going down, it would make sense to anti-spew there. I am not using the word 'excluding' in the hard sense. I am using it in the sense that it is synonymous with 'considering it a factor.'

I do disagree with the reasoning for the emotional read. That series of posts was out of character with anything I've presented thus far on this site. I haven't posted that way as either town or scum. If you thought I was scum over the night, it doesn't make sense to me that that alone was enough to reverse your read.

Thanks!
on 1, that doesn't take into account that scum!Isis or Ame would look terrible for hammering the other over Jake, since it wouldn't be consistent with their earlier reads.

On 2, it's not a "i've seen ame do this as town but not scum" read. it's a "i think ame would avoid doing this as scum and it feels genuine here" read. I don't really know how to explain it more than that. Our read on you wasn't super confident overnight btw, mostly we just scumread Jake.

~Celestial

on 1, that doesn't take into account that scum!Isis or Ame would look terrible for hammering the other over Jake, since it wouldn't be consistent with their earlier reads.

But not RCE is what I mean. There was no danger because we could just hammer RCE. Additionally the anti-spew thing. I think you and Isis' explanation for #2 make sense.

What happened to this, Ame?

And Jake's multi-vote was very scummy. There's one thing to vote to vote 1 person you don't scumread out of self-preservation, but voting anyone and everyone he could put on L-1 is a different matter.

~Hex

[Conspire]

Also, I'm not questioning to "dismantle people's townreads" on each, it's to question into people's motivations/reasoning and see if their reads are real. You're looking at my actions from a very surface-layery standpoint.

~Hex

[Conspire]

I'm confused about a meta of Hectic that he looks deeply into motivations when he's town.... sorry Hectic... don't be mad...

~Hex

[Conspire]

What happened to this, Ame?

And Jake's multi-vote was very scummy. There's one thing to vote to vote 1 person you don't scumread out of self-preservation, but voting anyone and everyone he could put on L-1 is a different matter.

Could you elaborate on the first line?

And why is voting more than 1 person you don't scumread different than voting 1 out of self-preservation?

You said our explanation made sense. Why doesn't it anymore?

~Hex

[Conspire]

And why is voting more than 1 person you don't scumread different than voting 1 out of self-preservation?

Because there's a difference between trying to get the worst of the 3 lynched out of self-preservation rather than just trying to get any of the 3 lynched because you don't care as long as it's not you. There's layers to it.

~Hex

[Conspire]

There's a reason self-preservation is a scumtell though. Scum care more badly about being lynched than town. So yes, looking at the level of it is relevant.

~Hex

[Conspire]

What do you mean about being stated in question form?

~Hex

[Conspire]

Also, I'm not questioning to "dismantle people's townreads" on each, it's to question into people's motivations/reasoning and see if their reads are real. You're looking at my actions from a very surface-layery standpoint.

~Hex

No, I realize that's what you're trying to present. But the pattern is clear. Have you questioned Isis' Ico town read in the same way? If so, that invalidates this point.

Isis gave her reasons for that townread. I'm questioning into stuff that feels dodgy or might be fabricated.

Are you saying it's Ico + Conspire?

~Hex

[Conspire]

Well, this is fun. Be back in a bit.

~Hex

[Conspire]

Are you saying it's Ico + Conspire?

Most likely, yes. But I am not certain.

Is it ico+conspire

Someone has put forward that combo, right?

lul

ok, going for real now.

~Hex

[Conspire]

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Something feels off about this post. I can't put my finger on it right now, but call it Cosmic Intuition. Will reevalutate later.

~Hex

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What do you mean about being stated in question form?

~Hex

I think Ame's town for the last couple of pages?

This and the time frame (~20 min between posts) lead me to doubt the sincerity of the read.

So your concern is the amount of time it took for me to state the read? I don't see why that should be the case; I didn't have to look rrhough any meta, it was an assessment of your character/personality. Also, the question shows unsureness, how is that scummy?

~Hex

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Bugs she's probably just scum with how she's trying to convince the mods you were hammered.

I think this is the scummiest post you've made this game, Ame. Given how you highly you seem to regard Isis, you thought she was using some real shady tactics there to manipulate the mods and get a win?



~Hex

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Okay so part of my votings was to see if scum would try to signal for a wuickhammer because of no daytalk because I read about that in the wikie but the thing is daytalk is so common its easy for scum to slip up. I saw isis posting a LOT and I think this was to indicate the readiness to wuickhammer with her partner.

What is your read on Isis exactly?

~enlightened

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I think it might be Kanao Tsuyuri.

~Hex

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words

Unfortunately, this based on the fact you're town. I recently saw clidd make a point like that in partition and it was good, but it's good because it can't be disproven, especially in lylo

~enlightened

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I will look through the HBE point though, for some reason i skimmed that first time around.

~enlightened

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I think this is a town slip. And I think it is genuine. I think Pink is town.

Hey, Ame, I don't like your confidence here. If genuine, why was that a townslip? Scum could also be confused about the setup, unless they were specifically planning out mislynches/path to victory during the time they could talk in night 1.

~Hoplite

It seems less likely if they are scum because they would have a partner to discuss things with over the night. I'm not confident, however.

This doesn't reflect your original confidence in the read.

There's nothing about "I think this is a town slip. And I think it is genuine. I think Pink is town." that's unconfident.

~Hex

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I don't know if Ame's read progression on me makes sense at all

it made so much more sense in Chiptune

I wasn't in that game but maybe I could give that a real quick read through.

~Hex

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I think this questioning comes from scum!Kanna, hence my question in 1394. What was the purpose of this question? How would my answer help you? Also, you should be aware of my experience with Ico because you did a meta-analysis of it, were in the game we first played together in (Strawberry), and read Hard Boiled Eggs. Also, what was the purpose of providing me the Iconeum meta over this page? Was it to challenge the points I was making or 눈‸눈??? You didn't seem to come to a conclusion on whether this was scum or town Ico. You posted the similarities between our cases and never followed up with what it meant.

It would help me figure out if you're genuine in your Ico push or not. Having been in an Ico towngame recently, my whole approach to him changed. Furthermore, even reading an Ico towngame (TL micro) somewhat changed my opinion:

Micro 892: TL micro maf

i read some of Micro 892: TL micro and I guess you mean the Bella tunnel? .....because i actually kind of see it

If you were anything like I was in that game, I expected you to think something similar. I think you said you read this game right? Given Ico's style, I think he can be an convenient push

~enlightened

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Also, I was trying to sort *you* there. I think at least one of Isis/Ico are town

~enlightened

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I've seen town Kanna and scum Kanna in action. Scum Kanna pretends to be thinking through things, but holds off on forming a conclusion so she has the flexibility to maneuver and so that she is associated with saying something indicative. Town Kanna is much more bold in her interpretations.

Also self meta, but if you think I never hide reads as town, that is orz. Even in partition, I never outright said I scumread you while in my head, you were my biggest scumread next to Raya. In the gamethatshallnotbenamed, I gamethrew by not making my scumreads clear. thinking about this brings me so much pain

~enlightened

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In fact, thinking about this makes me want to leave my other head again

~enlightened

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What was the special way of reading me you picked up from Partition?

was this @me?

~enlightened

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It isn't a perfect method; it's just seeing if your logic is good/it is likely for you to think that way. In partition, it made too much sense to lynch group 1 but you were using logic I don't think you believed in to steer it away. The fact I was able to pick it up there gives me *some* hope that we think similarly enough I can do it again here

~enlightened

p-edit: @Ame

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What do you mean about being stated in question form?

~Hex

I think Ame's town for the last couple of pages?

This and the time frame (~20 min between posts) lead me to doubt the sincerity of the read.

So your concern is the amount of time it took for me to state the read? I don't see why that should be the case; I didn't have to look rrhough any meta, it was an assessment of your character/personality. Also, the question shows unsureness, how is that scummy?

~Hex

Which one of you made that post?

~Hex

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What do you mean about being stated in question form?

~Hex

I think Ame's town for the last couple of pages?

This and the time frame (~20 min between posts) lead me to doubt the sincerity of the read.

So your concern is the amount of time it took for me to state the read? I don't see why that should be the case; I didn't have to look rrhough any meta, it was an assessment of your character/personality. Also, the question shows unsureness, how is that scummy?

~Hex

Which one of you made that post?

Spoiler:

~Hex

You made the "Ame is town from this last page?" post?

Yes...

~Hex

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I think this questioning comes from scum!Kanna, hence my question in 1394. What was the purpose of this question? How would my answer help you? Also, you should be aware of my experience with Ico because you did a meta-analysis of it, were in the game we first played together in (Strawberry), and read Hard Boiled Eggs. Also, what was the purpose of providing me the Iconeum meta over this page? Was it to challenge the points I was making or 눈‸눈??? You didn't seem to come to a conclusion on whether this was scum or town Ico. You posted the similarities between our cases and never followed up with what it meant.

It would help me figure out if you're genuine in your Ico push or not. Having been in an Ico towngame recently, my whole approach to him changed. Furthermore, even reading an Ico towngame (TL micro) somewhat changed my opinion:

Micro 892: TL micro maf

i read some of Micro 892: TL micro and I guess you mean the Bella tunnel? .....because i actually kind of see it

If you were anything like I was in that game, I expected you to think something similar. I think you said you read this game right? Given Ico's style, I think he can be an convenient push

~enlightened

What answer would have been scum indicative and what answer would have been town indicative to you?

Additionally, you were already aware of my experience with Ico were you not?

Reading/playing with town!ico is slightly scum indicative. Specifically TL Micro since I came up with ^ that conclusion. The Bella tunnel was very...weird. Did you read it or did you not read it? A town indicative answer would be you read/seen none of Ico's towngames or otherwise.

Also no, i don't + if you read games, there's no way i could know which you read

~enlightened

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Yes...

~Hex

Ok, that's worse. The only doubt I had was that Kanna made the post which would explain the question format. Sigh.

If you're implying posting things in a questioning tone is a scumtell for me, you are truly lost in the Fujikasane Mountain?

~Hex

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Spoiler:

What do you mean about being stated in question form?

~Hex

I think Ame's town for the last couple of pages?

This and the time frame (~20 min between posts) lead me to doubt the sincerity of the read.

So your concern is the amount of time it took for me to state the read? I don't see why that should be the case; I didn't have to look rrhough any meta, it was an assessment of your character/personality. Also, the question shows unsureness, how is that scummy?

~Hex

Which one of you made that post?

~Hex

Even though the avatar for this hydra is adorable I don't think Umbreon fits Hectic very much and it kinda bugs me sometimes

What'd you think would fit me better? Eevee/pokemon-wise.

~Hex