Open 777: Switch (Town Wins)

[Raya36]

This is unfortunate. Anyway, VOTE: Solon

[Raya36]

Also I feel like this would be a game where scum would have the confidence to try to take a town leading role

[Raya36]

He could be. That's not my reason for voting him though. It's too early to get a read based on that.

[Raya36]

I'd prefer keeping it to myself for now to see if the reason persists since it's still early rvs. But I will get back to you on that

[Raya36]

He could be. That's not my reason for voting him though. It's too early to get a read based on that.

I disagree. But for my own reasons.

Disagree that he could be doing that?

[Raya36]

He could be. That's not my reason for voting him though. It's too early to get a read based on that.

I disagree. But for my own reasons.

Disagree that he could be doing that?

I disagree with not posting the reasons but over half the people haven't posted at this time which is fine.

I normally don't hold back reasoning but since it's very early game and I'd like to see if it continues then why not

[Raya36]

I feel like Elmo's entrance was strange but just personality. I honestly don't see scum motivation.

Also I feel like this would be a game where scum would have the confidence to try to take a town leading role

Interesting, I don't agree. But why do you think so?

Because 2 of the power roles were killed Night 0. I think that's a solid confidence boost

[Raya36]

Because 2 of the power roles were killed Night 0. I think that's a solid confidence boost

Oh. Gotcha
I had something else on my mind.

What was on your mind?

Also I feel like this would be a game where scum would have the confidence to try to take a town leading role

This is a game in which Town must step up, for we are under the cosh!

Scum are sitting pretty right now and probably smiling contentedly to themselves after the success of their N0 actions - they are unlikely to be showing much urgency, but rather complacency!

Definitely agree we should step up and that's a good point too. I guess it just comes down to playstyle.


So about Solon. What bothered me was his rvs vote suggested a lynch of emperor, then 11 addressed Tanner as both town and scum, then said Elmo was dumbtelling and asked why they weren't voting Emperor. Then voted Elmo (with a case) but said his rvs(?) vote on Emperor was still in his sights. Then it was Math. It just felt like he was throwing suspicion everywhere.

I feel a bit better about his slot though after his interactions with Math. His reevaluation on Elmo reads to me as he just gave up on an Elmo push getting him anywhere. Now he's jumping on Maria.

I suppose everyone can safely soft vigilante now.

The Elmo/Solon interaction has heavy potential to be T/S in some order.

I've already got a slight townread on Dunnstral.

VOTE: Tanner

Elaborate, please.
Each statement reads peculiar.

@Math
I've been waiting for a response to this.

[Raya36]

I have not read a single 0verki11 post.

Well it's not like he's putting out paragraphs, you couldn't have looked over his posts?

VOTE: MariaR

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I like Tanner and Looker, and kind of Elmo, not sure about ndmath (not seeing a reason to vote there), not seeing a reason to vote overkill either

Do you think scum not reading would just announce that they aren't reading?

so we probably have two scum to deal with on top of the SK


if they have a switch for the cop and doctor their abilities are useless

Fake townslip?

[Raya36]

I change my mind about scum taking a townleading role. Scum are lurking and hiding

[Raya36]

I change my mind about scum taking a townleading role. Scum are lurking and hiding

Isn't that about half the playerbase?

Yeah, which is exactly why some scum are probably doing it too.

[Raya36]

I can't seem to form any reads this game so starting at the beginning:

Spoiler:

You don't say!

VOTE: Emperor

Was there a reason for this vote or was it just rvs?

m have daytalk?

The more I think about it the weirder this is. I still think the strikethrough was personality more than anything AI. But it's weird to ask something that's written directly in the rules.

Welp This was a fun game. So what PR we got left? Tracker? Oh Na we got the vig. Yes I'm reading this setup as I move down the list.

This was a weird narrative too. This whole post is just weird.


Slight townread on Dunnstral

Elmo Town.

VOTE: NDMath

What about his posts at this time made you think Elmo was town?


Slight townread on Tanner


Slight townread on alban


Slight townlean from Overki11


I'm now torn between Solon and NDMath being the most scummy. I don't think scum would be in both of them.

VOTE: elmo
we did it we used bbcode

Hi scum. This will be remembered for a bad vote hop btw. The fact that everyone is about my 13 makes this game fun. Attempted or not and just getting thoughts out there instead of holding back and giving no content no matter when you placed this vote makes it easy.

I'm always suspicious of anyone that accuses someone of a bad vote when it's on themselves..


Elmo also only said that she was aiming for transparency after Dunnstral said that's how he read her post 13. The the two townreads she says she has are of the two people townreading her: dunn and tanner..

VOTE: Elmo

I change my mind about scum taking a townleading role. Scum are lurking and hiding

Do you have any substantial reads?

I have dunnstral, tanner, alban, and overki11 as town reads/leans right now.
Solon I'm not sure about anymore.
Elmo and NDMath as scum reads/leans.
Everyone else is null.

[Raya36]

But many people were saying something about how low our chances are now or how bad the start was. Why are they ok? Also what would you think if the first poster didn't mention the two town prs killed?

[Raya36]

Yeah this game is going to be tough, unfairly so, and for town to win we probably need to bank on at least 1 cross kill between sk and mafia.

Post 13 is wild - does anti-town really make a post like that right away? It looks to be too suspect to be scum, in a way.

Dunn townread started here. It's just a weak read right now but my reasoning is that he didn't jump on elmo being scum even though that would be the easy thing for scum to do at the time.

I liked alban for 39

Overki11 is more of a tonal gut read from his entrance. Very weak though

[Raya36]

It's not based on activity. I made a case on you. I'm not going to ignore someone I find scummy just because they're active

[Raya36]

Right now as a whole your case seems to be based that I'm town reading two people who are townreading me and based on my
13 post. Aside that don't you think if I wanted to look worse Id have voted Math like was wanted. No because right now I see math as a null. And the top scum read I have is being replaced.

Also that you only said you were aiming for transparency after dunn suggested that. And also that you said overki11's vote on you was bad. I'm honestly not sure what you mean about wanting to look worse.

[Raya36]

Klick had a good entrance so town

[Raya36]

Raya what is your experience with Elmo and how do you feel about 13?

I don't have much experience with Elmo. Maybe a game years ago.
I think the strike through was more personality than anything. But the narrative and the townslip seemed off to me.

I feel like Elmo's entrance was strange but just personality. I honestly don't see scum motivation.

You made a similar post in Micro 701 (also Switch) when you were playing with Elmo. What's your read on her here?

I'm having a hard time finding the game you're referring to.

Klick you're really tryhard here did you get a red pm?

Could say the same about you


I like chkflip so far so my scum read on the solon spot is starting to fade

[Raya36]

I'd prefer NDMath of the wagons right now

Someone sell me on why knight is scum

VOTE: NDMath

[Raya36]

I might just be sold

[Raya36]

I'm having a hard time finding the game you're referring to.

Meant to say Open 704.

This was 3 years ago so hard to meta read based on that. But she was much less active and very defensive. She also slipped and said "you" when referring to town. She's not acting the same here but again, that was 3 years ago.

[Raya36]

It's close to deadline. Nothing is really happening. There's a leading wagon. Would it be fair to say scum is ok with this wagon?

[Raya36]

So what I'm saying is if knight was scum I'd expect some sort of resistance

[Raya36]

Knight looks good. He's in a tunnel and his tone comes off like he really believes the read.

What do you mean? Maria/Dunn/Black Ranger have all put up resistance to this wagon to different degrees, and there are nine people not voting there. There's currently a wagon at 3 as well.

I mean more that it built up really quick without much stopping it. And now there isn't much against it.

The traction is your vote on the fucking counter wagon, Raya.

Also, "Why isn't there traction?" is a dog shit excuse for a question when over half the game is lurksacking and we need 2 slots replaced.

Just a thought I had

[Raya36]

Well we need a lunch so VOTE: Knightmare491

[Raya36]

I'm confused for all the same reasons as Dunn. I don't see how that's claiming vig but how could you possibly know who made those kills.

[Raya36]

Quick NKA summary thing assuming both kills were Sk/scum

Overki11/klick:
Overki11:
-Called Elmo scum defeatist
-Said Elmo faked a townslip then voted
-Said Elmo's post looked fake and omgus
Klick:
-Elmo's entrance is town
-Maria seems off (although Maria is town so I'm gonna ignore anything else about her)
-Knightmare is omgus-y
-Knightmare and dunn in scum list
-Pushes Knightmare some more
-Votes Knightmare
-Pushes a couple more times for Knightmare

Klick doesn't stand out as overly active among everyone else in my opinion. So I would assume if scum/sk killed them they were killed for a read. So that leads me to believe knightmare is scum/sk.



MariaR
-Votes Nips
-Votes Tanner with a case
-Pushes for Tanner

MariaR is also not an active player so if scum/sk killed her it was probably for a read. Her only scumread was Tanner.


I've always had a townlean on Tanner though. I would bet MariaR was an sk kill. Knight almost got lynched yesterday because of Klick. So I think that's a good place to vote.

VOTE: Knightmare

[Raya36]

Killing klick makes sense for sk/mafia because they were town read by more than half of the playerlist and it frames me too two birds in one stone.

That's true too. UNVOTE: because I don't know what I think anymore

Wasn't Klick a replacement as well?

Yes, Klick replaced Overki11

nightmare is a good candidate for mafia because the vote failed on them at deadline.

?? How does that make me mafia?

Scum resistance to the lynch

[Raya36]

I feel like over half the game being MIA makes the failure for a Knightmare lynch to go through NAI, unfortunately.

Half the game being MIA and all the replacements makes it impossible to form reads

[Raya36]

Well I was gonna come in and vote for Knightmare again but seeing as he's at L-1 I'll just say that's where I want my vote to be. Based off of NKA the only thing that has been said to make me think he could be town is that scum are setting him up to look bad (and it was him who said that). But that only makes sense if klick was the scum kill which we don't even know for sure. I think as someone mentioned, if he was town he probably would've been lynched more easily. Also I don't agree with his Dunn vote and it looks bad since Dunn was making a case on him.

[Raya36]

I'm willing to vote knightmare too as I said earlier but I'm not ready to end the day yet

[Raya36]

As Looker pointed out Tanner hasn't been here yet. And it's already hard enough to get reads as is but if we end the day early that's only going to take away more interactions and chances to get better reads

[Raya36]

What makes you say they are likely dead tonight

[Raya36]

Fair enough, idk if I necessarily agree but I've never liked stats

[Raya36]

I'm here! Did my predecessor claim Vanilla Townie?

Why would you replace into a game then automatically assume your slot claimed vanilla? That makes no sense to me.

Did you not even read the iso on your slot before jumping in.

I don't always do this when replacing in, tbf? I guess?

I don't always right away either but I can't imagine you would come in and ask if your slot claimed? Especially in a short game like this. It's a weird question to ask and it'd only take a minute to check for yourself.

[Raya36]

But why not just check his iso instead of claiming? He only has 23 short posts and the game itself is short

[Raya36]

I didn't think of it at the time. I posted that immediately after entering the thread. Still, it doesn't make a difference I don't think. I could be WIFOMing and could technically be anything still.

It was just an odd entrance in my opinion but it could be town as easily as scum

[Raya36]

@Knightmare
Could you go more into your dunnstral read? Why can't the part you called a slip be a thought coming from town?

@NDMath
Who do you scumread and why? Why do you have an interest in SK hunting?

[Raya36]

Why can't the part you called a slip be a thought coming from town?

because as town he would be taking firm stance on the info that we would get from my lynch. Not just saying we need to lynch me anyway (?)
WTF does that mean, are we at the liberty of lynching people (anyway??) without even thinking what info could be gained from it?
It makes sense that he pushes on me now when his pet scum read Maria flipped town.

Do you think it's scummy though or bad town in your opinion?

[Raya36]

I'll answer that when Knight answers my question first

[Raya36]

Why can't the part you called a slip be a thought coming from town?

because as town he would be taking firm stance on the info that we would get from my lynch. Not just saying we need to lynch me anyway (?)
WTF does that mean, are we at the liberty of lynching people (anyway??) without even thinking what info could be gained from it?
It makes sense that he pushes on me now when his pet scum read Maria flipped town.

Do you think it's scummy though or bad town in your opinion?

@Knight this question

@NDMath
Who do you scumread and why? Why do you have an interest in SK hunting?

Because I don't believe in crosskills.
Scumreads
Knightmare - I'm kind of sheeping Dunn at this point but I've been scumreading knightmare this whole game and nothing has changed that.
Ranger - His eod flaking and then immediately hopping on the wagon today is really bad. The way he's talking about mariar is also odd.
Fitz - Hasn't been too much good about this slot, but it's better than the other two.

What about Ranger's talk about Maria is odd?

Checkin in to say I'm good with the lynch

There's been zero chance of anything worthwhile being said since Knightmare slipped not-vig without hard claiming vanilla.

Knightmare did claim VT?

[Raya36]

You just hammered....

[Raya36]

Also you just asked the exact same question I asked Knight and he already answered

[Raya36]

I did an associations check last overnight

Spoiler:

Associations:

Knight:

-Emperor RVS
-Votes ND
-Pushes ND
-Back and Forth on Elmo
-Ok with voting Emperor
-Voted ND again
-Voted Dunn and made a case



Looker:
-Defended Knightmare from Dunn (Knight was going after Dunn)
-Said things were looking too easy for me and Dunn (The two people going after Knight with NKA)

Alban/Black Ranger:
-Voted Knightmare
-Didn't really have a case until later in the game

Dunnstral:
-Would vote Knight
-Voted Knight to get a lynch
-Case against Knight
-Votes Knight and arguing with knight

HEM/Tanner/paragon:
-Tanner townread on knight
-Maybe "accidentally" hammered his buddy just so he could say "oops, oh well, it'll be scum anyway". That didn't sound genuine at all. I wouldn't be at all surprised. It would be good for distancing and at this point a Knightmare lynch was only being delayed.

Mage/Emperor/Havingfitz/Brassherald:
-Fitz vote and case (sort of) on Knight
-Fitz scumread on Knight

Solon/chkflip:
-Voted Knight
-L-1 vote on Knight
-Called Knight lurky

This is what I got out of it (The ones I didn't mention don't strongly fit in either based on association)
[Town: Dunn, Emperor]
[Scum: Looker, Paragon]

[Raya36]

VOTE: Looker

I want to go here

[Raya36]

Honestly I can go for Paragon today instead of Looker. Both are equally scum to me.

That's what I said in my post above:
"Maybe "accidentally" hammered his buddy just so he could say "oops, oh well, it'll be scum anyway". That didn't sound genuine at all. I wouldn't be at all surprised. It would be good for distancing and at this point a Knightmare lynch was only being delayed."

VOTE: Paragon

[Raya36]

It takes 4 to lynch right?

[Raya36]

I think 2 votes is safe?

[Raya36]

^ Scum and defending his scum buddy

You have to see how it looks like Paragon bussed his buddy. Knightmare was getting lynched anyway. Scum!Paragon lost nothing by hammering his buddy

[Raya36]

Forgot to pedit. The arrow is at Looker

[Raya36]

I did an associations check last overnight

Spoiler:

Associations:

Knight:

-Emperor RVS
-Votes ND
-Pushes ND
-Back and Forth on Elmo
-Ok with voting Emperor
-Voted ND again
-Voted Dunn and made a case



Looker:
-Defended Knightmare from Dunn (Knight was going after Dunn)
-Said things were looking too easy for me and Dunn (The two people going after Knight with NKA)

Alban/Black Ranger:
-Voted Knightmare
-Didn't really have a case until later in the game

Dunnstral:
-Would vote Knight
-Voted Knight to get a lynch
-Case against Knight
-Votes Knight and arguing with knight

HEM/Tanner/paragon:
-Tanner townread on knight
-Maybe "accidentally" hammered his buddy just so he could say "oops, oh well, it'll be scum anyway". That didn't sound genuine at all. I wouldn't be at all surprised. It would be good for distancing and at this point a Knightmare lynch was only being delayed.

Mage/Emperor/Havingfitz/Brassherald:
-Fitz vote and case (sort of) on Knight
-Fitz scumread on Knight

Solon/chkflip:
-Voted Knight
-L-1 vote on Knight
-Called Knight lurky

This is what I got out of it (The ones I didn't mention don't strongly fit in either based on association)
[Town: Dunn, Emperor]
[Scum: Looker, Paragon]

Eh.. Raya groups people into Town/Scum here but it looks like he means Not mafia/Mafia, and he doesn't really consider SK. Wondering if that's more likely to come from SK themself. I don't think Raya is mafia.

I consider SK 'scum' as well as anything not town aligned. But I do think Looker and Paragon are mafia, not SK. I think SK is within the ones I didn't group in either town or scum.

[Raya36]

Oh you're right. I overlooked that. I guess I do mean mafia/not mafia.

To clarify, I think Paragon and Looker are mafia, and SK is within the remaining players. The players I called town are actually not mafia but may be SK

[Raya36]

I don't like Looker's defence of me. Defending me for hammering scum alone, and questioning why he isn't being voted isn't a towny thought process.
Just shooting out thoughts right now.

Raya is very town for the overnight analysis.

Scumreads the one defending you, then townreads the one scumreading you.
I can't tell if this is an attempt to get town cred.

I do really think the hammer has high potential to be trying to gain town cred.

[Raya36]

What's the case on the Brass slot?

[Raya36]

Those are just my reads. Were you expecting me to OMGUS and OMGUR, or OMGUO?

I forgot to respond to this:
It's not that I expected you to OMGUS or whatever else but to go exactly opposite of what people are reading you seems like a reach for town cred

[Raya36]

I scumread brassherald for ~reasons~

OMGUR is Oh My God, You Rock. OMGUO is Oh My God, You're Okay. Obviously.

Care to elaborate on these ~reasons~?

[Raya36]

Also I really think we should let Brass come here and talk before we heavily consider going after that slot

[Raya36]

Oh right, didn't catch that

[Raya36]

Did you get a chance to catch up yet Brass?

[Raya36]

I think Paragon is where we should be lynching today. I feel like if he was town and at risk of being lynched he would try to act more town

[Raya36]

chkflip, why do you think brass is scum?

[Raya36]

UNVOTE:

Tanner was town.

Why was Tanner town?

[Raya36]

I'm coming back to that later when I'm not as tired

[Raya36]

Raya, why do you think it's me again? Is it for anything I've done or previous slot holder stuff? Scrutinise me under a fresh eye please.

I'm still tired lol but this needs attention

-I found your opening odd. I don't know if scum would be so obvious but it seemed like a weird way to claim without making it look like it's you who wants to claim.
-Based on associations with knight:

-Maybe "accidentally" hammered his buddy just so he could say "oops, oh well, it'll be scum anyway". That didn't sound genuine at all. I wouldn't be at all surprised. It would be good for distancing and at this point a Knightmare lynch was only being delayed.

-You townread me for my analysis which put you as scum. That isn't something uncommon for scum to do to make it seem like they don't want to get rid of the person scumreading them
-Same as above goes for the opposite. Looker defended you and you said you didn't like it.

So I actually had the previous slot holder as a town lean most of the game. But you've been acting quite scummy.

[Raya36]

What math are you doing to get to brassherald as SK?

Isn't SK immune to night kills?

From #0:

Welcome, [Player Name]. You are the Serial Killer.

Pregame you must choose to be either immune to the Mafia Nightkill OR be immune to Vig/Cop.
Each night phase, you may select a player in the game to nightkill.
Each night phase, you may reverse the state of any switch. This will trigger the opposite outcome of how the mafia have left a switch.

You win when you are the last player alive or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm your role and choose your immunity within 48 hours.

BH was told when he repped in that he was immune from night kills. 621 was a SK slip.

I feel like as SK you'd be more careful, right?

[Raya36]

-You townread me for my analysis which put you as scum. That isn't something uncommon for scum to do to make it seem like they don't want to get rid of the person scumreading them
-Same as above goes for the opposite. Looker defended you and you said you didn't like it.

So I actually had the previous slot holder as a town lean most of the game. But you've been acting quite scummy.

I don't get this. I think there's more reason for scum to appeal to defenders, and attack attackers. At worst, it should be NAI to you and not scummy. Unless you think my specific reasons for townreading/scumreading you/Looker are off. Are they?

The reads being back to back and very clearly saying the defense of you was bad. And then saying the analysis which very clearly puts you as scum is good.

[Raya36]

Ok, I'll look closer into it. Associations are something new I'm trying. I never used to look at them in depth.
For now UNVOTE:

[Raya36]

I'd rather go for Looker now.
VOTE: Looker

[Raya36]

I could be convinced of Brass

[Raya36]

These are brassherald's 2 posts of substance this game:

VOTE: Paragon
Since no one is posting anyway, the hammer was super scummy, Dunnstral is absolutely correct and while I can't rule him out as SK, I am pretty sure he's not mafia. An SK lynch might be the best case scenario today to lower the amount of kills, I've never been good at differentiating between SK and anyone else.

The first one sheeps the consensus opinion that my hammer was scummy. Says he's pretty sure Dunny is town but doesn't provide backing for that.

Wait, I just realized, Dunn can't be SK. He's good at the game. He would have hit the mafia by now.

He can be town

Completely unwarranted opinion.

brass, why are you townreading Dunny?

Dunny, why don't you think it's brass?

I feel like if they're partners Brass would make his arguments better.

Ok, I'll look closer into it. Associations are something new I'm trying. I never used to look at them in depth.
For now UNVOTE:

He talked you down way too easy.

Maybe so but my read was entirely based on associations and he has a point about them. And I found Tanner town and I found Paragon quite town lately.

I could be convinced of Brass

Erm.. So you and para both SR Looker and BH. Something doesn't seem right about that.

Could be convinced of Brass. I don't want to vote there but everyone else seems town rn. Looker is where I want to go today for sure.

Wait, who is Black Ranger?

Scum doesn't just forget a player

Looker's on L-1.

Raya, do you see my arguments for brass being scum? I think it could just be Galron + brass.

I think it's more likely to be Looker honestly. At worse I'm sure Looker is at least SK

[Raya36]

Yup. That's why we have to do this.

VOTE: BrassHerald

Paragon, Raya, this is where you need to go today.

I'm staying on Looker

[Raya36]

Looker is now L-1

[Raya36]

UNVOTE: Looker

Actually, I'm not sure if he fakes not knowing about that

It seemed genuine to me. UNVOTE:

[Raya36]

I was just about to make a bold suggestion and say it could be Galron

[Raya36]

I'm looking at Knightmare's mentions of that slot and there are only 2 tiny responses to chk that aren't even relevant to each other.

Looker, sell me on Mathwagon because I honestly don't see it.

Get some new specs yo

I read 62 as someone of who knows how their past games have gone, understand a weakness of theirs, and are trying to improve. That's NAI. You wanna try again and not be cheeky this time?

134

[Raya36]

Solon makes no mention of Knight

[Raya36]

When you look at chk you have this as the first mention:

Hi I'm chkflip and I'm always angry.

Yeah the Math wagon is trash. C-caw c-caw Klick.

I'd be inclined to push Knight if we weren't so close to deadline.

This earned a few votes on Knight forcing him to follow

WHELP.

VOTE: Knightmare491

But to me that "whelp" doesn't seem like a good whelp?

Then he immediately asks for an extension. An opportunity to dismantle a wagon which would only grow because of how close to deadline they were

@mod: hate to be "that guy" but with all these replace outs and what not, any way we could extend the phase?

8.5 hours y'all.

Knight or Math. Make a fucking decision.

I'll happily clap back to Maria without issue but y'all need to stop talking about it and be about it.

This post he doesn't push for Knight. He pushes for just a decision and even says he would go back on a counterwagon.

That's L-1 Knight. You can claim a PR if you'd like but a this point it's you or nobody, so. Shouldn't have flailed.

Knowing Knight is scum now the "shouldn't have flailed" sounds odd too.

[Raya36]

The next day he is a lot more on Knightmare. I suggest that the Knight lynch didn't go through because of scum resistance. He says that it was probably just because of lurkers and NAI. So he starts with a light defense of Knight. Knight gets another vote and someone votes Dunn. Chk votes Dunn. Knightmare follows that vote. Dunn gets unvoted and the biggest wagon become Knight at L-2. There is no hope for Knight at this point and Chk puts him at L-1 and that's when the pushing (or I think bussing) starts by saying he's lurky and asking if we can hammer Knight.

[Raya36]

I'm going to put my vote here. I think it has high potential of flipping scum. VOTE: Galron

[Raya36]

How would it benefit scum!me to rep in and engage?

To look town lol

[Raya36]

And why would scum!me point out the rules thing and Dunnstral lying about them?

Dunn didn't lie? From what I can tell you both said the exact same thing in different words. And you would do that to put suspicion on Dunn.

[Raya36]

It's apparent we're going to deadlock today, which is what you want I suspect. There's something about the way you and Raya double teamed me that's weird. I'd like to hear what Looker, Paragon and BH have to say.

This is exactly what I expected as a response. Pin the blame on us. I'm town. I'm quite confident Dunn is town. And I'm confident you're scum.

[Raya36]

Starting to get low on time. Looker, brass, Paragon. Will you join us on Galron?

[Raya36]

Your being clairvoyant would explain a lot.

Pin the blame on us.

This looks like a perspective slip btw.

Wym?

[Raya36]

Your being clairvoyant would explain a lot.

Pin the blame on us.

This looks like a perspective slip btw.

Wym?

The "us" lends itself to a team, but I don't think that's the case. If that were true, one of you would have hammered BH.

Nope. The us simply referred to me and Dunn since you were pointing the blame on both of us together

[Raya36]

Half an hour. I guess we no lynch again

[Raya36]

I'm VT

Are you mafia Dunn?

[Raya36]

Both kills would probably have been easy mislynches which is interesting

[Raya36]

Alright, so if no one counters vig then you're vig and I'm the VT. Who do you think is scum?

[Raya36]

Looker and then 2 out of the rest of you 3. I mean, most people alive right now are scum. I'm pretty sure looker isn't the one town compared to everyone else though

Are you thinking Looker is SK or maf?

Happy scumday, Raya, and how is it possible for me and 2 other living players to all be scum

Thank you!

So assuming no one ends up CCing Dunn this is what I think:

Raya - VT
Dunn - Vig
Looker - SK
Brass - Maf
RC - Maf

Can someone explain why we no lynch?

[Raya36]

Someone unvote. If looker is town and scum comes in they could be quicklynched

[Raya36]

Brass, I know you're ok with RC.

Dunn would you move to RC instead of Looker tonight?

[Raya36]

I meant today lol

[Raya36]

It would be best to get Mafia today would it not? Then the remaining maf has to choose between the switch or a kill. I think Looker is SK. So let's get RC who is prob scum

[Raya36]

Do you think Looker is SK or Maf?

[Raya36]

If you won't go for RC then I want to go for Brass

[Raya36]

Actually can you line up what you think everyone is like I did earlier this page?

[Raya36]

^
last page now

[Raya36]

Alright. So you agree that RC is SK or Maf so why won't you move there?

[Raya36]

How can you assure that

[Raya36]

Why are you so certain on Looker being maf?

[Raya36]

Brass and Looker. I'd like a list of who you think everyone is too

[Raya36]

I forgot RC didn't already. My bad. RC too please

[Raya36]

Brass, RC

Could I get a list of which you think everyone is

[Raya36]

Ok just RC left to share their list

[Raya36]

As soon as Dunn asked my role I was suspicious then when he claimed vig I knew something was up lol

I thought it would be a Dunn and Brass mafia team when he claimed vig though

[Raya36]

The way Dunn and Brass seemed to agree and team up at the end of the game I was sure they would be maf together.

I actually almost counter claimed a bit after Dunn claimed and I'm glad I didn't. I was gonna just wait and see if I could get some info out of him then cc but the maf would've won

[Raya36]

CONGRATS, RAYA!!! I'm so happy for you, lol. I really just didn't want to lose to a Dunn vig lmao. I thought RCE (which is what I was thinking) was going to just barter with SK for a town loss. As long as I didn't lose to a brass+Dunnstral town team, cuz Chriiiiist.

• I don't think there's a player on this playerlist that could CC Dunnstral as vig and not be lynched for it

Hahahahhahahahhaha

[Raya36]

YOU TRIED TO KILL ME?!?!? RAYA!

I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE SK!!!

[Raya36]

YOU TRIED TO KILL ME?!?!? RAYA!

I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE SK!!!

I WAS VERY WRONG!!!!!

[Raya36]

true Maria!

Sorry for killing you lol
I have to say my kills were not on point this game, but hopefully the end made up for it