Would it make me a shitbag if I replaced out, lol?
Agreed.In post 16, Dunnstral wrote:Bruh
I skimmed it, but I was really just desperate to be in a game. No offense to the designer. I was just going to play it like a regular normal.In post 29, Knightmare491 wrote:On a more serious note, so you're saying that you had no idea about the setup?
Confirmed - MariaR and Dunnstral are scum.In post 62, NDMath wrote:I voted because I get scumread for not voting.
If everyone did this, nothing would ever be said.In post 97, MariaR wrote:It’s strange I have nothing that makes me want to comment on at the moment. I could ask some random questions but with no real goal behind them that just feels odd to me. I suppose I’m waiting is the best way to put it
Are you a meme account?In post 101, Solon wrote:My dear fellow, you misread my post!
Macabre, I swear to God. This game is already demotivating enough without your ridiculous running gag.In post 105, Solon wrote:VOTE: Maria
She is approaching the game exactly as I'd expect scum to do early doors; complacently easing herself back into her armchair, slippers on, by the fire with her cup of cocoa. Reclining back with a satisfied air, waiting for the entertainment to begin.
Well, not on my watch!
Yeah, that MariaR and Dunnstral are scum because they're not voting.In post 115, NDMath wrote:You know what I meant.
At what point does the shtick become counterproductive?In post 116, NDMath wrote:I struggle to take any of these questions seriously when you phrase them so absurdly.
Do you have any thoughts on Elmo or 0verki11? "No" is an acceptable answer.In post 127, MariaR wrote:I disagree with both of the main wagons at the moment. Here's something I'll start up just to see where it takes me
VOTE: Nips
So that's all cool and everything, but where is your vote going? It can go on me, but we need to get something going. Two killed PRs and then town apathy is like a one-two punch. I waited a bit for this game, so now that it's here I'm going to actually play it. 33.3% chance is rough, but I really don't give a shit - it's not like I'm winning all the time anyway.In post 144, Emperor flippyNips wrote:nope just stupid
In post 151, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:I feel insulted you linked a fox.
Also someone wake me up when this games got activity. Ill gladly be lynch bait if this game is going to be this slow.
What's the prerequisite to start a conversation? Pressure? There's literally nothing going on, so ignoring people is kind of...demotivating.In post 159, NDMath wrote:Ngl I don't consider my response to Tanner an answer.
I was kinda just ignoring Tanner (which I probs shouldn't be doing but whatever), and I struggle to see how you interpret it the way you are, or how you view 60 as an explanation.
No one ever voted her. Also, asking for townreads at this point is like asking for a gamesolve. How am I supposed to determine alignments if no one is doing anything? What I'm foreseeing is apathy until deadline, and there are no plurality lynches. I think we'd be better off discussing now instead of letting people lurk until last minute.In post 160, NDMath wrote:Why Raya?In post 156, Looker wrote:In post 151, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:I feel insulted you linked a fox.
Also someone wake me up when this games got activity. Ill gladly be lynch bait if this game is going to be this slow.Spoiler:
Does that mean that you're willing to sheep? What about VOTE: Raya36 Or Solon? Or MariaR?
Do you townread anyone do far?
It doesn't have to be slow, Maria.In post 165, MariaR wrote:This can't really go on when everyone is doing that in a slow gameIn post 163, Raya36 wrote:I change my mind about scum taking a townleading role. Scum are lurking and hiding
In post 169, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Alright Looker or Maria at this moment. Aside the other half the player list.
Almost, Elmo - what are you actually saying? (It's like you tried really hard to effort) So the people you think are town are the people who think you're townIn post 180, NDMath wrote:Where I'm out now is
Emperor Dunnstral
Elmo MariaR
Tanner Raya36
Looker Alban Overki11
Knightmare Solon
Which I realize now is very influenced by people's read on me so I'm gonna have to rethink.
That's not an observation I really trust. What would be the penalty for town taking an active role in this gamestate? Do you disagree with Raya's initial assertion that scum would take a leading role? I think you're feeling that town is more disadvantaged than it really is. Saying we lost from the onset was a joke. We're still going to win.In post 196, Tanner wrote:Someone asked my why I thought Elmo Town, and just their posts seemed a bit weird/over the top in a way I wouldn't expect from scum in a game where they already have a massive advantage? They're pushing for activity when it definitely wouldn't be necessary for scum.
It's 9 pages.In post 199, Tanner wrote:I like Klick's catchup, other than maybe the Math read. To be fair I have been not as much attention to this game as I maybe should have.
I don't understand. What's the angle?In post 207, MariaR wrote:I wish I was townreading more people on my wagon because that would've made me feel better and I can already tell the angle this post is gonna get because of it but ah well.
*scumIn post 211, Looker wrote:That's not an observation I really trust. What would be the penalty fortown
I don't see the risk of scum taking a leading role in a town that's demotivated. I don't see why someone taking a "leading role" is enough to disqualify them from being scum. That's what I was saying.In post 217, Tanner wrote:What do you mean about a penalty?
Same tbhIn post 261, MariaR wrote:I just came here to have a good time...
I was clarifying because what you said was kind of vague.In post 264, NDMath wrote:That's what I said...
Do you disagree with specific points? Because this looks like OMGUS.In post 293, NDMath wrote:For me it's mostly his attack on me and the related posts -- I don't really understand coming from town.
I count eight.In post 312, Klick wrote:What do you mean? Maria/Dunn/Black Ranger have all put up resistance to this wagon to different degrees, and there are nine people not voting there.
That was an RVS vote.
Partners defend partners, and both you and NDMath were equally L-5.In post 325, chkflip wrote:Furthermore, why did you drop the second-most wagon for a lynch on someone who isn't here to defend themself?
I read from where I asked for an extension onward. I can only vote one at a time, and Raya was only never voted, not given a blind TR pass like Dunnstral.In post 382, NDMath wrote:Did you read the end of day votecount or just the flips?
And why Dunn over Raya?
You guys were all posting around deadline. Plus you were trying to fish out vigilante.In post 383, Dunnstral wrote:What do you mean? I voted for Knightmare
If you mean we could have swung the vote to somebody else, explain how we could have done that, and on who, and how I would have known that
Also, you don't think this guy is guilty of what you're accusing me of?
Your vote reeks lookerIn post 337, Knightmare491 wrote:I don't mind voting for Emperor, it's a lurker slot, but I'd rather lynch math.
You, Klick, chkflip and Raya all posted around deadline. That's discounting Elmo and Math.In post 384, Dunnstral wrote:Make a vote count with all the active players from yesterday on a wagon from yesterday that results in a lynch.
Elmo posted 3 minutes before deadline and gave no indication that he was active before that time.
You're right. But, I don't know how incriminating a potentially stalled mislynch is. I don't know the benefit of not lynching Knightmare vs genuinely inactive players.In post 392, Dunnstral wrote:It's not possible for that combination of players to secure a lynch based on the end votecount. You're wrong:
I don't know what he is, but none of the cases have been damning to me. We rolled wagons through several people yesterday and then waited until the last minute to try and force a consensus. To me it looks too easy, particularly for you and Raya.In post 393, Dunnstral wrote:Looker, do you think Knightmare is town?
Why?
Why did you vote for DunnstralIn post 415, chkflip wrote:Missed ya, fitz!
You're telling me that the optimal play would be for mafia to no lynch yesterday and mislynch today. You're also telling me that mafia avoided jumping on any of the other wagons we had yesterday and all stopped playing because Knihgtmare was about to be lynched. I don't know about that. I think this is an exploitation of crippled town.In post 416, Dunnstral wrote:No lynching in that scenario is a plus for Mafia, approximately neutral for SK (In my opinion), and a minus for Town
Even if Knightmare is town, we would be better off if he voted himself at the end of the last day phase, rather than waste a day and then get voted up again anyway.
Now we can't tell if he wasn't lynched because everyone was afk, or because mafia didn't want to lynch one of their own, so they didn't post. Which means we pretty much have to lynch him, now.
I'm playing through as everyone being scum. When I look through Raya's ISO, I'm not seeing her receive heat for anything and her votes are moreso convenient. Up until chkflip's and Knightmare's votes, I felt the same thing about you. I feel Knightmare voted out of survivalism, but I don't know why chkflip voted.In post 416, Dunnstral wrote:What looks too easy?
Passing because he put you as town? I'm assuming you don't need any justification for these reads?
This game is offering too much camouflage.In post 492, Knightmare491 wrote:What can I say, it's like everything I say falls on deaf ears.
I'm also curious.In post 500, Knightmare491 wrote:@Paragon can you do something useful?
Why does Paragon's hammer make them scum, but your and Raya's placement on Knightmare's wagon not make you two scum? All three of you were in the same position - bus (allegedly) or no lynch.In post 545, Dunnstral wrote:So why are you still voting me Looker? Also, Paragon's hammer doesn't make them town, it makes them more likely to be scum.
Your vote actually makes no sense. Do you think I'm mafia or SK? I think there are very good arguments against me being mafia, but your reason for voting me initially was that I was "being given a pass" implying that you thought I was mafia.
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I'm like, 80% sure Paragon is mafia. We can lynch them today, or we can fish for the serial killer.
In post 564, Paragon wrote:I was fully expecting this btw. I knew my hammer would look like I "accidentally" hammered my scum buddy in an attempt for towncred. Lame play as scum.
Are you a meme account?In post 565, Paragon wrote:(after I saw the flip I mean)
How would you go about getting clarification?In post 566, Paragon wrote:I don't like Looker's defence of me. Defending me for hammering scum alone, and questioning why he isn't being voted isn't a towny thought process.
Just shooting out thoughts right now.
I want to know what these are.In post 577, Paragon wrote:Were you expecting me to OMGUS and OMGUR, or OMGUO?
But why. Do you really think that slot is important with its history?
Are you going to fill the spot?In post 597, brassherald wrote:Yo, I'm just here because there was no one stepping up and filling the spot.
You're very clever, but you're not helpful.In post 599, brassherald wrote:I am in this spot, aren't I?
Havingfitz already claimed SK. Can you contribute?In post 600, brassherald wrote:I was hoping to get the SK. Didn't
So you're basically an empty slot?In post 606, brassherald wrote:Not planning to tbh.In post 601, Raya36 wrote:Did you get a chance to catch up yet Brass?
Are we lynching the SK or not?In post 611, Dunnstral wrote:Personally I'm leaning lynch Paragon, I'm still pretty sure he's mafia based on knightmare interactions, and his reads seem weak
Looker is weirding me out by still voting me
I mean, I haven't replaced out.In post 628, Paragon wrote:Probably Looker.
I don't think you're actually reading.In post 633, Paragon wrote:What does this mean?
You find no value in my questions because you don't care - that doesn't mean I'm "questioning stuff for the sake of saying stuff". Also, your ego is inflated - my questioning had nothing to do with you: I was trying to see how Raya and Dunnstral differentiated their positioning on a Knightmare wagon from your own. And the only "open-minded" thing about me is me expecting any of these replacements to be worth a damn.In post 657, Paragon wrote:This is questioning/saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff. I don't think this is town.
Additionally, his take on defending me and questioning why Raya was going for me over him is very surface level - the logic being "but Paragon hammered scum", as if Knightmare wasn't going to be the lynch no matter what happened there. He's trying to remain too "objective" and "open-minded".
That would generate too much discussion.In post 664, brassherald wrote:We have 2 days, can people start voting?
Nice bluff, but whether it's you or brassherald, I feel your partner is Dunnstral.In post 677, Paragon wrote:Great, thank you! I keep expecting Looker to swing around to voting me, given I've been consistently scumreading him, but the fact he doesn't might be town-indicative.
I'll take a closer tonight between the two tonight.
Are you a Dunnstral alt?In post 686, brassherald wrote:Dunnstral does not make the suggestion to mafia to help find SK as mafia.
Dunnstral also does not completely miss mafia as SK.
Therefore, the only thing left is town.
I'm not going to debate conversation with you when you straight-up said you wouldn't read. Also, you have no room to nitpick people's personalities. You called my posts bullshit and admitted you only replaced in as a favor.In post 689, brassherald wrote:\Yeah, he hasn't gotten into the town block with his posts today.In post 688, Galron wrote:Will you vote Looker?In post 686, brassherald wrote:Dunnstral does not make the suggestion to mafia to help find SK as mafia.
Dunnstral also does not completely miss mafia as SK.
Therefore, the only thing left is town.
Especially the one that flat out says voting would cause conversation after he did nothing to promote conversation.
I didn't like that bit of sarcasm from him.
The kneejerk reaction is to vote you due to your hypocrisy; however, I feel this is what you're going for. You've been trolling ever since you replaced in.In post 698, brassherald wrote:Do you know what proactive means?In post 696, Paragon wrote:Like, really? All it took was Galron pointing out Raya changed her mind about me to put him as town? We should be lynching brass.In post 692, brassherald wrote:With this new proactive stance from you, I think I can put you as town. Leaving just the three of them if I am counting correctly and not forgetting a slot... I'll look that up soon.
He's literally the only one engaging people.
It's not lost on me that we're still on this trend: last-minute deadline conversation while needing a replacement.In post 726, Paragon wrote:Hey, Looker, Dunny's not happening today. You need to switch to brass or there's no way you're not lynched.
Are you referring to the no lynch?In post 738, brassherald wrote:Dunn, just vote me. I'm VT and this game was fucked day 1 when you all got jack shit done.
Please quote what you're referring to so that I can tell you that you're wrong
This game was a definite loss from the beginning. I would've replaced like everyone else, but Elmo had to go and be an asshole. It won't be a bruise to my ego and it doesn't take much time to post a bit with y'all.In post 790, Dunnstral wrote:On mobile, I'm referring to the spoiler and the line before it
NAI. What's your intention for today?In post 794, brassherald wrote:Just to remind the mafia in a blatant way to try to pull a victory for town from the jaws of defeat, that unless we lynch SK today or no lynch, you have lost.
Why do you feel you're so confident you know what the SK is doing?In post 795, brassherald wrote:By the way, I'm pretty confident last night Mafia hit the switch, SK hit Paragon, thinking it was a mafia kill, and well, Dunn explained the rest.
I was trying to ensure there was no benefit to fakeclaiming vig. To me, that tactic always ends in an SK win at this point. There's no way to guarantee the vig wouldn't kill the remaining scum unless the scum is a universal townread. In that hypothetical, I would assume Dunnstral would be scum with Raya. This is why I don't do setup spec.In post 803, RCEnigma wrote:Mmm it's just an SK win. Which I'm not super mad at.
We no lynch, Dunn gets switched off, mad hits Dunn, sk has a 2/3 shot at hitting the mafia for 1:1:1
If I'm left alive I'm just voting with SK anyway. End the game quicker.
Raya and Dunn? What's your layout of the remaining players? What changed your mind about Raya?In post 805, brassherald wrote:Let's do this then, Dunn and Raya, we can agree that RC is a Scum slot. Let's lynch that one.
VOTE: RCEnigma
You're confident no one will holster tonight?In post 806, brassherald wrote:I'm willing to see what happens in this three way cross shoot night
I don't see how no one else is seeing through this.In post 813, brassherald wrote:My intention for today is that there's 3 people in this game who are not town, Dunn is the only other town here. Therefore, if Dunn says to lynch someone, I lynch there.
NAIIn post 818, brassherald wrote:Also why would people be boring and holster? Come on guys! We can see a good old Mexican standoff here as long as no one shoots at the one unarmed person. I'm probably Tuco in this situation still somehow on there with no weapon but, whatever I'll revel in being mostly right post game
