And Jake's multi-vote was very scummy. There's one thing to vote to vote 1 person you don't scumread out of self-preservation, but voting anyone and everyone he could put on L-1 is a different matter.
Could you elaborate on the first line?
And why is voting more than 1 person you don't scumread different than voting 1 out of self-preservation?
And Jake's multi-vote was very scummy. There's one thing to vote to vote 1 person you don't scumread out of self-preservation, but voting anyone and everyone he could put on L-1 is a different matter.
Could you elaborate on the first line?
And why is voting more than 1 person you don't scumread different than voting 1 out of self-preservation?
You said our explanation made sense. Why doesn't it anymore?
In post 1451, Ame wrote:And why is voting more than 1 person you don't scumread different than voting 1 out of self-preservation?
Because there's a difference between trying to get the worst of the 3 lynched out of self-preservation rather than just trying to get any of the 3 lynched because you don't care as long as it's not you. There's layers to it.
And Jake's multi-vote was very scummy. There's one thing to vote to vote 1 person you don't scumread out of self-preservation, but voting anyone and everyone he could put on L-1 is a different matter.
Could you elaborate on the first line?
And why is voting more than 1 person you don't scumread different than voting 1 out of self-preservation?
You said our explanation made sense. Why doesn't it anymore?
~Hex
I think it makes sense, but I don't think it's reasonable given the time frame and the way the read was stated in question form.
In post 1451, Ame wrote:And why is voting more than 1 person you don't scumread different than voting 1 out of self-preservation?
Because there's a difference between trying to get the worst of the 3 lynched out of self-preservation rather than just trying to get any of the 3 lynched because you don't care as long as it's not you. There's layers to it.
~Hex
No...Self-preservation is self-preservation. You only know your alignment, so lynching anyone unless they are cleared is better than yourself.
There's a reason self-preservation is a scumtell though. Scum care more badly about being lynched than town. So yes, looking at the level of it is relevant.
In post 1442, Isis wrote:Failing to bring us to her conclusions seemed like NAI or TI poor workmanship, Ame, you can't conflate wrong with town.
I'm confused about a meta of Hectic that he looks deeply into motivations when he's town.... sorry Hectic... don't be mad...
I think Pink Ame is my favorite team right now.
I've seen town Kanna and scum Kanna in action. Scum Kanna pretends to be thinking through things, but holds off on forming a conclusion so she has the flexibility to maneuver and so that she is associated with saying something indicative. Town Kanna is much more bold in her interpretations.
I haven't really seen this and I'm not in a state where I can trust you're town and follow it
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
In post 1448, Conspire wrote:Also, I'm not questioning to "dismantle people's townreads" on each, it's to question into people's motivations/reasoning and see if their reads are real. You're looking at my actions from a very surface-layery standpoint.
~Hex
No, I realize that's what you're trying to present. But the pattern is clear. Have you questioned Isis' Ico town read in the same way? If so, that invalidates this point.
In post 1450, Ame wrote:Isis can you state your reason for scumreading me? I keep asking you this because you keep coming back to scum!me out of paranoia and I am trying to reignite your reasoning centers when it happens. It is an irrational fear resulting from your experience with Purgatory. I know it shook you, but I am not scum here. Look back on your town case of me and see if you can find holes in it. Approach this with the prefrontal cortex, not the amygdala.
You mislynched all sorts of townies and then shot shiki wanting to mislynch her. You kill so many people and they're all town. That makes it more likely you have been protecting yourself and a partner all game
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
In post 1458, Conspire wrote:There's a reason self-preservation is a scumtell though. Scum care more badly about being lynched than town. So yes, looking at the level of it is relevant.
~Hex
Self-preservation when it comes to lynching someone other than your self is not a scum tell.
In post 1448, Conspire wrote:Also, I'm not questioning to "dismantle people's townreads" on each, it's to question into people's motivations/reasoning and see if their reads are real. You're looking at my actions from a very surface-layery standpoint.
~Hex
No, I realize that's what you're trying to present. But the pattern is clear. Have you questioned Isis' Ico town read in the same way? If so, that invalidates this point.
Isis gave her reasons for that townread. I'm questioning into stuff that feels dodgy or might be fabricated.
In post 1439, Isis wrote:The quality of your logic isn't really relevant, it's the choice to focus on logic at all. I don't think you're unintelligent, fwiw
In post 1462, Isis wrote:You mislynched all sorts of townies and then shot shiki wanting to mislynch her. You kill so many people and they're all town. That makes it more likely you have been protecting yourself and a partner all game
I mislynched one player. I did not shoot Shiki. This is an invalid reason to scum read me. Additionally, it is fairly obvious that the Shiki shot was meant to put me in a bad light.
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
In post 1462, Isis wrote:You mislynched all sorts of townies and then shot shiki wanting to mislynch her. You kill so many people and they're all town. That makes it more likely you have been protecting yourself and a partner all game
I mislynched one player. I did not shoot Shiki. This is an invalid reason to scum read me. Additionally, it is fairly obvious that the Shiki shot was meant to put me in a bad light.
you were on RCE and S_S right? And weren't you on Jake's lynch or were you off of it?
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
