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@Quick:
So, you admit neither of us has any solid meta on the other, and thus your 4707 means little to me. "Everyone who has played with me knows.." doesn't apply to me and I don't know what is isn't NAI from you either.
So, if you are town here I'd appreciate it if you tried to show it to me, and/or if you tried to make me somehow readable/solvable to you.
If you want to resort to third party (as in a third person) experience with us both still, let's try mastina, FL or dave then (I picked 3 who you say can also read you). Like, I do not just skate by as scum. I usually build myself some towncred early on and THEN skate by on it. I am also a bit more serious as scum than I am as town. Finally, I do not make bad pushes that are likely to blow in my face as scum, so id I was scum and I knew you were town you can rest assured that I would not be the main pusher of your wagon and would have most definitely kept myself open for a switch to Jake (regardless of his alignment) just to be safe.
Then again, I always think whatever meta one knows about oneself can easily be manipulated, so I wouldn't put much weight on it either. The one thing that cannot be faked is whether there is really a plan/motive for scum me to play the way I do or not, and I say I would be happy if you could find me one here so I can better my play in the future. If I hypothetically assumed I was a spectator and saw my play in this game I would be wondering what scum motive would there be for me to play this way too. I simply don't see it, but maybe you can.
P-edit: Good think this appeared in my preview, as I was still typing under 50JP.
This game deserves more of my attention now, and the other game I was playing under 50JP had ended yesterday (or the day before. Due to my irregular sleep schedule I can't even keep track of days)
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I think TSE was town when he replaced in. Like (and please pay attention to what I'm exactly saying), 2726 would have been a town post made by A50 in that situation. (I am NOT saying I won't do it as scum in the future. I am only saying that up until this moment I'm typing this that would have been a town indicator of me).In post 4714, Blair wrote:Guys,lesswallposting,moreTSEvoting.
This has been a test of the emergency Blaircast™ system.
2858 is a bad move for scum. You do not want to provoke Town!FL and you certainly do not want Scum!FL to try and distance from you in response to you voting him (it becomes a bit obvious)
Now 2867 is easily fake-able, nut to follow it with 2874 is hardly the way scum playing dumb would want to do next.
There's more in that ISO that I think indicates TSE is town, but I'll stop here. And besides, my situation with Quick isn't over anyway, so I will keep on engaging him until I find out exactly how his brain is working here (i.e. line of thoughts.. not a subtle cheap shot, as someone had mistook it to be before)
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@Quick: Fine. Let's say I do this:
UNVOTE:
Now, can we work together in a way that could be productive? Like, let's start with TSE. Why is he 3rd tier to you?
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Not at all. I'm just explaining why TSE is likely to be town in my own view.In post 4719, Blair wrote:Will it hurt your feelings if I say none of those posts look like town tells to me?
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I do. A50 is me without any gimmicks (if I use one it's still the real me and probably how I would act IRL)In post 4728, Aristophanes wrote:A50 was 50JP :O
WHO KNEW!!!
(Nice to see you on your main my friend! I take this account more seriously. Do you?)
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Can we please stop playing suboptimally?In post 4784, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Yeah Blair/Hoctac is actually where I think I want to go for today.
VOTE: Blair
TSE vs Blair is one of the worst duels that could ever happen in this game.In post 4543, Blair wrote:I'm a Frail Partygoer. Frail = I die immediately if I'm infected.
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I am taking this as a rhetorical question.In post 4796, Quick wrote:
That would be mastina. Are you reading the game or no?In post 4795, 5G Tower wrote:Wait wait wait, Nero, who used that wording “my original pm” over “my pm” because that’s damning fucking evidence. Wording is everything.
VOTE: 5G Tower
I would also do Jake, but that would be purely a PL as I have no read on the slot.
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Assuming it's true (for the sake of arguments) why would you want to lynch her?In post 4801, 5G Tower wrote:I am reading, I just missed it. VOTE: Mastina definitely caught infected
1st: You don't win by lynching the infected. Scum do. If scum infect someone each night and we lynch them the next day the 3 original scums will endgame.
2nd: She used a "hint" to notify us of her infection (presumably) so she actually wants to be redeemed back to her "original" status and be able to serve the TOWN. Why lynch THAT?
3rd: Even if you are leaning that was indeed a slip, the fact it may have been "her way of posting" (which I believe it is) is still a valid option. Given that EVEN IF your view is correct the lynch is still suboptimal to Town wincon, your vote here is lazy at best.
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Town mindset. (Now don't anyone blame me and quote this tomorrow if I change my mind. People DO get infected overnight, and I call things as I see them at that point)In post 4802, Nahdia wrote:we shouldn't lynch for infected. we should be lynched for OG scum. There's a chance mastina can be cured.
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I kinda agree, but "some" people hate meta reads, so I'm keeping them to myself.In post 4805, davesaz wrote:
I don't think scum!Nero would choose this particular mountain to climb.In post 4732, Nero Cain wrote:but it's still really weird though. Like, a simple "my role pm says...." would have been sufficient and made a ton more sense than "my original pm"
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I;m inclined to believe it's in a mod "PM" in someone's own inbox.In post 4807, davesaz wrote:
Is this in a mod post somewhere?In post 4773, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Wait why am I being voted?
I’m legit the only player in the game that can’t be converted.
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And I have a feeling that he may not be the only one, but I don't want anyone else claiming it if there are others out there. (Better to have scum TRY and FAIL. That is a more effective way of fighting the epidemic/pandemic)
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In post 4809, Jake The Wolfie wrote:@modCould infected give a boost to mafia if they are lynched?
Answered via PM.
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This made me laugh out loud.In post 4810, Flavor Leaf wrote:and A50 would do it because he wouldn’t do it because he would do it
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He's saying I'd do it because everybody thinks I wouldn't because it is what they would expect me to do. It's a double layer WIFOM approach.In post 4812, Quick wrote:
Who is to say A50 hasn't infected you tho? Like.. you are saying the premise is true due to the premise being true. It's not even circular, it's just you saying something assuming it's true hence it's true.In post 4810, Flavor Leaf wrote:See people don’t infect me unless strong partner connection is there, a la A50 and Auro, however Auro probably wouldn’t infect me because of that and A50 would do it because he wouldn’t do it because he would do it
Tchill would likely do it a few days in, not immediately, similar to what Aristo said.
Nero wouldn’t do it.
Mastina would never infect me.
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Now that's a new one. Does it say so explicitly in your "original" Role PM??In post 4820, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I've already stated at least once before that I have the ability to privately ask the mod questions?
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Quoting for reassurance that I won't askIn post 4821, Quick wrote:
Quoting for emphasis...In post 4760, Quick wrote:Blair>Auro,Nero,FL, Rest
Auro>TSE,Oka,Tchill,dave,FL,Nhadia,Ari,Nero,Blair,masitna, Rest
Hoctac>Voted,dave,TSE,Oka,FL, Rest
5G Tower> ALL
Jake the Wolfie>Ari,Oka,dave,Nero,Voted, Rest
Aristophanes>Jake,Auro,Gobble,Tchill,TSE,Voted, Rest
TrueSoulEnergy>Auro,dave,Gobbles,Hactoc,Ari, Rest
Voted>Hactoc,dave,Jake,Gobble,Ari,TSE, Rest
Alchemist21>Nero,Oka,Tchill,mastina,Voted, Rest
Nahdia>Nero,Auro,Oka, Rest
Flavor Leaf>Tchill,Auro,Hoctac,Blair, Rest
gobbledygook>mastina,dave,Nero,Tchill,Hoctac,Voted,Ari, Rest
davesaz>Tchill,Auro,Nero,Oka,Gobble,TSE,Voted,Hoctac,Jake,mastina,Auro, Rest
mastina>Gobble,Tchill,Nero,Auro,Oka,A50,dave
OkaPoka>Jake,Auro,Nero,Tchill,dave,A50,TSE,Voted,Nhadia,mastina, Rest
Nero Cain>Nhadia,Tchill,Oka,Gobble,Auro,Jake,A50,TSE,dave,mastina, Rest
Tchill13>Auro,Nero,Oka,dave,Alch,FL,mastina,Hactoc, Rest
pisskop>Tchill, Rest
Okay, you can lynch me now. This is my solve.
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'nother townie (at the time being) detected.In post 4822, Hoctac wrote:Infected die start of the next night so we'd just be wasting our only ways of killing the original scum.
Quick, what does that even mean?
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Note to self: The next time I roll scum with Town FL I should use haha & lol more often and see if he catches me. (also haha.. lol)In post 4870, Flavor Leaf wrote:Similar to years and years back when a newbie I was IC played a couple games with me and brought up that they thought I was scum because I was saying “haha” and “Lol” a lot more than when I was town.
They had me and i didn’t even know. I fixed that tell, however.
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Whoever's head fits that nooseIn post 4878, Voted wrote:Who are we lynching?
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1- Exactly.In post 4900, Nero Cain wrote:
Wouldn't that be against her wincon if she's infected? it should be.In post 4893, Almost50 wrote:2nd: She used a "hint" to notify us of her infection (presumably) so she actually wants to be redeemed back to her "original" status and be able to serve the TOWN. Why lynch THAT?
Do u think Mastin is infected?
2- Nope. Jake is, and if it wasn't against the rules I'd stake 10/10 stakes on it.
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That's the bad part of you. Please ignore it and use the good parts. Thank you.In post 4902, Nero Cain wrote:part of me just really thinks scum is Dave, Nahdia, and a50 and Mastina was recruited last night and everything else is just noise.
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Or Mnt Dew??In post 4907, Quick wrote:
It's not WIFOM, just bull shit.In post 4904, Almost50 wrote:
He's saying I'd do it because everybody thinks I wouldn't because it is what they would expect me to do. It's a double layer WIFOM approach.In post 4812, Quick wrote:
Who is to say A50 hasn't infected you tho? Like.. you are saying the premise is true due to the premise being true. It's not even circular, it's just you saying something assuming it's true hence it's true.In post 4810, Flavor Leaf wrote:See people don’t infect me unless strong partner connection is there, a la A50 and Auro, however Auro probably wouldn’t infect me because of that and A50 would do it because he wouldn’t do it because he would do it
Tchill would likely do it a few days in, not immediately, similar to what Aristo said.
Nero wouldn’t do it.
Mastina would never infect me.
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I'm not mocking you, Nero. You know better. I just thought it was a funny comment.In post 4910, Nero Cain wrote:
wanna take a stance on it instead od mock me?In post 4906, Almost50 wrote:Now that's a new one. Does it say so explicitly in your "original" Role PM??
Hint: Imocking Jake in that post though. NGL.am
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Nero, read the game as a whole.. please! That was a response to question FL asked. The question was along the lines of "would you have infected me on N1? And why?" and was directed @Everyone. dave is answering the question. IF dave was scum he would have infected and then killed FL.In post 4911, Nero Cain wrote:
and this isIn post 4800, davesaz wrote:You fall in the group of people who can catch me as scum, therefore infect+kill would certainly be in the realm of possibility.
y does FL having the ability to catchYOUas scum matter whether or not he's going to be infected/killed? Are u part of the scum team or something?
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Which -btw- makes it 2/3 of your proposed scum team would have gone for FL infection+kill, yet you are also proposing we hypothetically infected mastina instead.
P.S. I wanted to leave out "hypothetically" on purpose and see what happens, but I guess the game is in no need for further imaginary slips.
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Not the suitable size if you ask me, but I'm in no position to fight against it. I just won't participate in lynching an innocent soul.In post 4916, Quick wrote:
*cough* Hactoc *cough*In post 4915, Almost50 wrote:
Whoever's head fits that nooseIn post 4878, Voted wrote:Who are we lynching?
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Spoiler: @Hoctac
Right?
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reversed - todayIn post 4930, Covid 19 wrote:reserved - tomorrow
(Should've made that post as JJD though)
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That's not an issue, as if I was scum with him and brought it up he wouldn't have said no. Which means you are either wrong about at least one of us or you are wrong about mastina being infected. And to remind you I lie mush less as scum than I do as town brings up another dilemma: Either I'm scum and being truthful; which means I infected FL, or I'm town and in that case you don't really care if I'm lying or not.In post 4933, Nero Cain wrote:
but Dave said he mightIn post 4923, Almost50 wrote:Which -btw- makes it 2/3 of your proposed scum team would have gone for FL infection+kill, yet you are also proposing we hypothetically infected mastina instead.NOTinfect FL night uno.
Hint: I am town here, nut I know nothing will convince you other than seeing my flip.
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What kind of slip are people talking about? That the infected stat dying the next night?? IF that's it, I see no slip. Scum can only kill the infected on N2 because there were no infections at the start of N1 is how I got it. If that's not the slip, can someone please point me to it?
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@Oka: I already explained what I think he meant.
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You're reading it the wrong way. He said "Infected die start of the next night" meaning; the process of dying for the infected starts at the next night, not that they die at the start of the night.In post 4962, Nahdia wrote:hence why it sounds like privileged information. particularly the bit about them dying at the beginning of the night. no idea what that's from.
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Yes we do. The infected do NOT get notified of the original scum team (nor who else was infected). That is mod confirmed info.In post 4971, Blair wrote:
Do we actually know this to be the case?In post 4964, Auro wrote:Infected will be pushing randomly and may fail to align with scum, so a bunch of infected people in thread may not allow a favorable outcome (since they can end up lynching each other as well and it feels better for scum to lynch town over infected).
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You guys are going to force my hand into lynching the guy I believe was infected, aren't you? *Sigh*
VOTE: Jake
At least the "Medic" stays put tonight in case scum have a Watcher.
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I love your shading of everything I do.In post 5089, Nero Cain wrote:A d2 lynch on an infected forces scum to no kill or use up one of their two infection free night kills. This sort of begrudged vote doesn't really make sense from town, IMO.
"Presumably", Jake is infected. I also assumed that Infections resolve before kills, and thus I would also assume cure takes place before the kill as well. Leaving Jake alive means scum will either kill him AFTER he gets cured = exhausting one of their 2 kills on the uninfected (which is what you want) OR risk him being cured (and thus presumably immunized). My milkshake is still better than yours.
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A50/a50/A-Fifty/A-fiftee team is more like it! And if I'm wrong on one of them then it's A-five-OIn post 5091, Nero Cain wrote:nahdia/a50/gobble/mastina team?
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VOTE: 5G
This is the best lynch today. This almost always flips main scum in my book.
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No elaboration needed. I think his actions (or lack there off) speak for themselves.
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@MOD:
So Mastina would have immunized an uninfected Townie, and would have killed the infected. Butwhat if she had targeted the original scum team? What would have happened to her/them??
Answered via PM.
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Man, mastina put Nero at the top of her readlist for the whole game. Do you think she would have continued to do so over someone she actually targeted and didn't die?In post 5403, Quick wrote:I'm not convinced you didn't Infect Nero, how does that sound?
Btw, mod told me if mastina visited scum she would "vaccinate" them, as scum are considered "not infected", so I am not saying Nero is "mechanically" cleared (although by play he sure is), but I'm saying he could not have been infected. Literally the only slot that I trust wasn't infected aside from my own slot). If you think he is scum you need to push him as an original member of the scum team. Do you have a case for that??
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Like, as per mastina's role she would have killed Nero if she visited him on N2 and he was infected on the same night, so I think there's a good chance scum tried to infect Nero there when he was already vaccinated on N1.
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Did I suggest he should be top town tier for you???? I said, if you want to suspect him, you need to suspect he started the game as scum, and not that he got infected. On N1, if he got infected he would have died, because mastina has been crumbing he would be her target on D1 and continued to crumb he was clear on D2. mastina visiting him on the night he got infected should have killed him.
On N2, no explanation needed. There were no infections, so he wasn't infected on N2 either. So,mechanicallyNero is either original scum or immune town. I am going for the latter.
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These two posts don't go with each other.In post 5419, Auro wrote:Scum, infect me tonight pl0x, I wanna relax
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This is the definition of lurking. 5G is actively following the thread, but is NOT posting.In post 5544, 5G Tower wrote:Let’s spoiler big pics peeps
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Wait! You asked MICROSOFT technical support what they think of 5G and this was there answer. Am I correct?In post 5605, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, 5g being useless in the hood doesn't mean he has to be scum b/c some times players are just useless. He could be lurker scum though.
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I am truly baffle by Nero's stance on 5G, and especially so when compared to his stance on me.
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I take it that this was/is directed at me (and I do apologize if I'm responding to a post directed at someone else). Assuming you're talking to me I have no explanation except that I want to play the way I am playing. (Hint: IfIn post 5626, Nero Cain wrote:why are you not being the same loud annoying player I've played with before?thisanswer isn'tannoyingto you, I don't know what is)
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1- TSE was was quoting me.In post 5639, Quick wrote:It was directed at TSE? How is that not clear?
2- I don't know TSE to be an annoying player, but I sure know I am.
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Erm.. a well rounded rear??In post 5651, OkaPoka wrote:ok do you know what a hunch means
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Sorry! that would be "a GOOD hunch"
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Wait a minute! Ia Voted an alt of Blatant Scum?
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It does look like we're going for a No Lynch, which would be disappointing IF mastina's role didn't have a backup. However, I strongly believe such a rolehave a backup in this setup, and thus I am not really worried if we don't lynch someone today.should
STILL, I am of the opinion lynching 5G is the best move here. This player has not been even showing an intention to be more useful in the foreseen future, and the longer he survives the more detrimental to town it is regardless of his alignment. (Did I mention I ALSO SR him??)
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Then move off the vanity wagon on Auro and come join us on 5G.In post 5732, Nero Cain wrote:i think a no lynch is stupid
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Technically it would, but I stopped counting. I need 12 now, 13 tomorrow, and it's becoming less likely by the day (RL days)In post 5766, Auro wrote:A50 would Quick's "replacement" count
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You mean "between", as you can't be in 2 places at the same time (let alone being "in" a rock is hard to sell nowadays. But you could be in an "egg" though)In post 5990, gobbledygook wrote:Hmm... I’m in a rock and a hard place now.
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Hello, old friend.In post 5991, CheekyTeeky wrote:Hoctac
Flavor Leaf
Nero Cain
davesaz
LicketyQuickety
Aristophanes
pisskop
Alchemist21
OkaPoka
gobbledygook
Auro
Nahdia
FB not svs with tse
TrueSoulEnergy
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Goodnight!
Sorry you rolled scum.
VOTE: Cheeky
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Show me where you claimed that in D3In post 6017, gobbledygook wrote:
I tracked the dead lady to himIn post 6014, Firebringer wrote:Gobbles, why are we voting Pisskop again?
Dead lady dies if she touches infected
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2 possibilities:
1- Because I'm voting you
2- Because I called you old
Pick one
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A) No. But you claimed scum the minute you walked into the room (Also AP says he doesn't recognize your new perfume. He's asking for permission to get closer and take a good sniff)In post 6066, CheekyTeeky wrote:A50 where you scumreading Voted earlier? Who are your other scumreads?
B) I don't have any. I just thought 5G was and he flipped green, so I don't know anymore
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