SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh damn, what did I sign up for? Idk how to play setups like this

[Flavor Leaf]

Bermuda bahama come on pretty mama

[Flavor Leaf]

Ah man, Kirito over Mustang. :/

But I get the fresh feel and need to want to switch avatars.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Elements may be scum but I'm not so sure I should be voting there.. ?? what do you guys think

Why?

Also, I asked the mod a rhetorical question and he declined to answer

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

And the question was: Did FL roll scum yet again?

I’m always scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

So just let me coast until Day 3, then lynch me

[Flavor Leaf]

So A50, is this like, a hydra with heads I dont recognize, or an account where you mix all your different gimmicks into one style?

This is my 4th alt, combining all the other 3 in one.

I only have 4 alts too, just the 4. No more. Nobody knows of any more than the 4. Not 9. I don’t have 9.

[Flavor Leaf]

wow page 14

Saudade, you get to catch me again this game

[Flavor Leaf]

Hey Flavor Leaf.

Remember the last big mafia game we played in together where you said you just wanted to enable someone else to have the kind of 3p game you had where you did really well and had lots of fun?

I never got to say it to you during the game for obvious reasons, and I don't know if you followed the rest of the game, but I think I had close enough to the sort of game you were talking about, and you definitely at least helped with that. That was some of the most fun I've had playing mafia in a long time, and I would have gone all the way and won if I hadn't grabbed the wrong vote, too. Anyways, thanks. That was awesome.

-ML

That’s awesome! Those are the best kind of games. I’ve been kinda burnt out lately, but hopefully I have one of those kind of games soon.

[Flavor Leaf]

wow page 14

Saudade, you get to catch me again this game

did you panic when i was the last slot to /in

I didn’t know a single slot in this game, I just got an invitation and then /in’d.

[Flavor Leaf]

the most brilliant player is not going to put any brilliant effort in this game im afraid

Good, I have a chance then

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh damn, what did I sign up for? Idk how to play setups like this

I wanted to call FL scum for this post so I'm going to locktown him for it instead.

This is a scum pocket attempt.

VOTE: Mastina

[Flavor Leaf]

UNVOTE: Mastina

Didn’t realize there was a wagon there.

[Flavor Leaf]

"She" is my pronoun as well.

You want Austin Powers to flirt with you???

I don't believe in flirting, and what you don't believe in can't hurt you.

I can make a believer out of anyone. The words I wiggle are smoother than the organic tastes like butter you slather onto your morning toast.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve gone to sleep not flirting, and woken up flirting.

Marry me, so I can divorce you, and we can celebrate.

[Flavor Leaf]

Note to self, Hoctac is extremely not self aware.

[Flavor Leaf]

My entire backlog of a mindset and the energy I place into my social dynamics, so trepidations such as those are actually false— I believe there’s quite a lot of content holding it up.

Not sweet enough to overpower, not savory enough to be too heavy, and just the right amount portion wise.

[Flavor Leaf]

Note to self, Hoctac is extremely not self aware.

What you trying to say, Flovor Lof?

Pretty sure i said exactly what i meant to say. I’m not very subtle

[Flavor Leaf]

Note to self, Hoctac is extremely not self aware.

I think its the exact opposite and he's a bit too aware actually

This could be true if he’s actively trying to push himself as not aware.

I get that this is a possibility because he seemed to take offense to the comment. I was just making a note to myself for later when I get into the game so i can remember what I was thinking at the time and cross reference it to what I would learn of h8m as a player in the future

[Flavor Leaf]

no we cant but I have a dream where we site wide PL players like this for 3 months and irradicate the mindset lol

VOTE: saudade

If I were scum, I would follow you to the moon because this is a dream come true.

Not because I think it’s bad or anything, but because Saudade catches me when I’m scum and i can’t do anything about it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, hey,

T

chill, long time no see. I’ll try to catch up soon

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t sleep on Alchemist, he’s a fast thinker. I’ve seen him fake claim without hesitation well.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why is Tchill being wagoned? I’m relying on him being an anchor for me when I find the time to be here

[Flavor Leaf]

66 pages... I’m never catching up

[Flavor Leaf]

First

[Flavor Leaf]

I really just don’t feel like playing mafia, guys. I don’t think I’ve ever felt this burnt out before. I’m not even modding a game right now.

I’ll stay in the game for now, and try to force myself to get going, but yeah. I have a site wide lull in activity right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just a heads up of where I’m at

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all ready for me to takeover yet or nah?

[Flavor Leaf]

Auro, why do I think you’re scum?

[Flavor Leaf]

You have this fence sitting feel I felt when you were in Boon There, Done That

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s you assuming that I think you’re doing it on purpose. I don’t. I think it’s a subconscious thing.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ugh, I have to go grocery shopping, so I gotta find my mask.

FlippyNips takes me grocery shopping because I don’t have a car.

[Flavor Leaf]

That was said because I can’t 1v1 right now ^

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, I’m null, but I saw the replace out.

VOTE: ETL

Move on from this day phase. I can’t catch up Day 1. 106 pages. I’ve read like 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

I didn’t read the interaction, I just don’t like replaceouts.

From someone who’s gotten to points where I replaced out in said manner (to be fair, there’s only like 2 or 3 in the past year and a half, and considering how many games I played during that time) the replace out itself is NAI.

[Flavor Leaf]

It took the mod nearly an hour to calculate NA.

Here's my list:

FL
mastina
Vecna
Ari

Auro
Alchemist
farside
Voted
Miss Lynch

Hoctac
Elements
Tchill
A50
Creature

Jake the Wolfie
5G

Saudade

dave

VOTE: davesaz

Why am i that high up

[Flavor Leaf]

And Tchill is Scum based on meta as well. Will link the game I am thinking of where I literally screamed that Tchill was Scum and then FL screamed at me back for, get this, not believing his claim.

GLHF.

Was this the game that I wanted to PL you as conf town

[Flavor Leaf]

Look at all those lazy FL votes. Almost as lazy as I’ve been this game.

Auro’s just OMGUS’ing because I caught him out this game Day 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

Saudade pushing Quick when Quick has me as top town is +scum equity in Saudade, but me thinking that actually means he’s likely town

[Flavor Leaf]

Dave v Nero is TvT.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Hoctac

This guys a good Day 2 lynch

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s see what happens now.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think we should kill in hoctac, Auro, or Aristophanes

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ll put some time into this tomorrow while I procrastinate. I gotta finish my screenplay, but like LOL, that won’t be happening

[Flavor Leaf]

Can somebody make a chart of all claims? I’ll be doing some famous FL VCA too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can someone explain how the setup works to me? People get infected and they become scum?

It’s essentially basic cult then?

Weird these games are coming back. Definitely changes how you gotta think about Mafia.

[Flavor Leaf]

Aristo’s probably town. I don’t think he becomes the one to post that as scum.

And yeah, I have other screenplays, but I gotta finish my big one. :/ it’s been draining.

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, aight then. Guess I’m doing it the old fashioned way.

[Flavor Leaf]

My thing is, does scum Jake and/or his team go "hey u know what is a good idea? let's contradict Voted!" that seems like a p good way to get him lynched and I kinda feel like scum wouldn't do that.

ofc the flipside of the argument is that the scumteam goes "oh hey Jake is on our team, let's play up his viness!"

So maybe it's just all WIFOM?

Alternatively, I am exactly the infected and thus would want to be lynched as an expendable.

I think FL has the best shot at being infected FWIW.

I NEVER get picked by any of that kind of stuff because people think I’m gonna be expected to get picked.

If I get infected this game, I will straight up announce it, so I can get cured.

[Flavor Leaf]

My thing is, does scum Jake and/or his team go "hey u know what is a good idea? let's contradict Voted!" that seems like a p good way to get him lynched and I kinda feel like scum wouldn't do that.

ofc the flipside of the argument is that the scumteam goes "oh hey Jake is on our team, let's play up his viness!"

So maybe it's just all WIFOM?

Alternatively, I am exactly the infected and thus would want to be lynched as an expendable.

I think FL has the best shot at being infected FWIW.

I NEVER get picked by any of that kind of stuff because people think I’m gonna be expected to get picked.

If I get infected this game, I will straight up announce it, so I can get cured.

The lie detector determined

that

was a lie!

Where?

I don’t think I’ve ever been culted of any kind. And I’m not playing in a way where if I were to be infected, I would survive.

And you were the only person town reading me, how am I at all a good infect?

My presence, even when I’m not even posting, is always there.

[Flavor Leaf]

Quick’s been trying to pocket me but it was becoming super unworth it because there’s an avenue to mislynch me.

VOTE: Quick

I know Town Quick, this is scum Quick trying to make me town read them, but I wasnt

[Flavor Leaf]

The entire reads list gimmick is straight up political positioning

[Flavor Leaf]

do the infected know the scum team? If there’s a cure that doesn’t make sense, so Quick could have gotten infected and trying to figure out who the infectors are

[Flavor Leaf]

My thing is, does scum Jake and/or his team go "hey u know what is a good idea? let's contradict Voted!" that seems like a p good way to get him lynched and I kinda feel like scum wouldn't do that.

ofc the flipside of the argument is that the scumteam goes "oh hey Jake is on our team, let's play up his viness!"

So maybe it's just all WIFOM?

Alternatively, I am exactly the infected and thus would want to be lynched as an expendable.

I think FL has the best shot at being infected FWIW.

I NEVER get picked by any of that kind of stuff because people think I’m gonna be expected to get picked.

If I get infected this game, I will straight up announce it, so I can get cured.

The lie detector determined

that

was a lie!

Where?

I don’t think I’ve ever been culted of any kind. And I’m not playing in a way where if I were to be infected, I would survive.

And you were the only person town reading me, how am I at all a good infect?

My presence, even when I’m not even posting, is always there.

Straight up announcing you are infected goes against your wincon. Do you have a follow up or naw?

No it doesn’t. I have a town wincon.

And if there’s a cure for infection, I will get cured.

Scum will not and should not infect me. I will cause their loss and win as town.

[Flavor Leaf]

The entire reads list gimmick is straight up political positioning

Says who? It's not and that's a bull shit accusation.

You can check all the other games I jump in late, I find the scum who’s doing the same thing with great track record.

Even when I tunnel mislynch it helps town.

[Flavor Leaf]

do the infected know the scum team? If there’s a cure that doesn’t make sense, so Quick could have gotten infected and trying to figure out who the infectors are

WIFOM dude. Complete and utter WIFOM. And it's the kind you use as Scum as well

I just use WIFOM. It’s not AI, so that’s a buzz word push.

It’s not a “he does it as scum even though he does it as town.” It’s literally just a “he WIFOM’s”

You adding the second part of it is scummy

[Flavor Leaf]

The entire reads list gimmick is straight up political positioning

Says who? It's not and that's a bull shit accusation.

You can check all the other games I jump in late, I find the scum who’s doing the same thing with great track record.

Even when I tunnel mislynch it helps town.

You are not even reading the God Damn thread ffs!

YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?!?!?

Means I’m town. ScumMe knows everything that’s going on in a game.

[Flavor Leaf]

I bring the flavor, the party’s now here, fashionably late, as usual

[Flavor Leaf]

Sometimes shortening your posts by spoilering huge quotes is a good idea.

Spoiler:

FINE ILL SPOILER MY POSTS U HAPPY?!?!?

[Flavor Leaf]

Quick/Jake have an anti association tell there. Jake town

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: quick

flavor leaf, lets team up

Stop pocket

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: quick

flavor leaf, lets team up

What exactly is your read on FL and why?

honestly I don't know, its fucking Flavor Leaf. But he will help breathe some life into this game and I welcome it and I reward it. He's not resorting to lazy tactics.

Lazy tactics lose game.

Do the most.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor, I agree that Jake/Quick probably are antialigned. I'm unsure which one of them are scum but I'm decently confident that one of them are scum. Also no pocket flavor, your pocketing me!

It’s fine to be in my pocket, because I’ll carry you happily.

But we gotta take turns when I get burnt

[Flavor Leaf]

Jake-Oka-Flavor

Officially the new cool kids town block.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: quick

Jake-Oka-Flavor

Officially the new cool kids town block.

hello id like to submit an application to be a Cool Kid. i already have a pair of cool shades.

You can be that person who follows us around, but we don’t invite you to all the private hangs, but you come to some because we feel bad.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: quick

Jake-Oka-Flavor

Officially the new cool kids town block.

hello id like to submit an application to be a Cool Kid. i already have a pair of cool shades.

Your reasons for voting me are objectively terrible. They are even worse than FL's.

Reasons are for scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Finally people are noticing Quick is scum! GOOD. (I'm already voting there and have been since D1)

On another note, I do have some strong TRs now, but I'm NOT outing them because: A) I don't want them to get infected. and B) I don't want to be outed if >I< get infected and have to push them for the lynch

Damn it, A50’s scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nahdia is very much active lurking

And I’m inactively present

[Flavor Leaf]

Cuz I’m a gift

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all distractions, focus on QuicketyLick

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: quick

Jake-Oka-Flavor

Officially the new cool kids town block.

hello id like to submit an application to be a Cool Kid. i already have a pair of cool shades.

Your reasons for voting me are objectively terrible. They are even worse than FL's.

Reasons are for scum.

If you want to repeat the same dribble garbage reasons for why I am Scum through nothing more than ad hoc, be my guest, but it doesn't make you good at this game.

I don’t need to worry about any of that, though. My track record already speaks for itself.

[Flavor Leaf]

reserve the cool kids town block for not only people you townread, but people who are efforting as well. jake isn't there and he is antialigned with quick so its unresolved for now, but there is room for him

Why do you think they're opposite alignments?

For me, it boils down to the Jake choosing to say the spoil comment.

I guess they both could be town, but I never see that as a Scum/Scum comment.

[Flavor Leaf]

The worst part of FL's push on me is IDK if it is Town motivated or not. I sorta feel he is Scum for his push, but he just magically shows up to say he would never get picked to be part of the cool kids so YMMV.

The banner does that. People think I can somehow be scum in games even if they got a Cop Inno on me nowadays.

[Flavor Leaf]

Damn it, A50’s scum.

If I was; you would have been infected already and you know it. And then I would have asked you if you received my gift to you and when you confirm I would have claimed Loyal Fruit Vendor and confirmed you as Town.

There’s some merit to this.

[Flavor Leaf]

The worst part of FL's push on me is IDK if it is Town motivated or not. I sorta feel he is Scum for his push, but he just magically shows up to say he would never get picked to be part of the cool kids so YMMV.

Even if you end up being town, my push on you is good.

Look at the gamestate. Reactions are coming.

I’m staying with my push.

You had me at the TOP of your reads list, then when it’s more convenient you dropped it to mid.

That’s political as hell

[Flavor Leaf]

Okapoka breaks every single town block I’m ever in with him.

Y’all about going to the beach with the flip flops

[Flavor Leaf]

@Flavor Leaf, except for 2 times in the game, scum have to kill in the Infected players. If scum ever want you dead you are likely getting Infected.

Damn. Don’t infect me.

[Flavor Leaf]

The relentless hammering on the "contradiction" that wasn't one was hiding the real reason that Jake is Wolfie.
I wonder if Nero is seeing what I am.
I think that maybe OkaPoka was seeing it but had been (probably unintentionally) obfuscating it by pushing the wrong reason.

In separate thoughts, I wonder if FL's sudden appearance is a distraction. Or maybe he's just distracting as a general playstyle.

Pedit: Fence sitting my ass, where did you get that bullshit from?

I told y’all I was gonna come in today like a wrecking ball and do it to it

[Flavor Leaf]

I really don’t think it’s sudden.

[Flavor Leaf]

Kirby, right back at ya

[Flavor Leaf]

If you guys wanna talk about actual infection targets, Dave would be my first pick to target.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dave/Nero.

Because 50JP/Tchill/Auro would be expected of me to infect, and Dave/Nero fill a great spot for an infected team. They kind of do their own thing, lone wolf it anyways.

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, Alchemist would probably be pretty high up on my infect list too.

Alchemist, if you get infected tonight *wink* *wink*

[Flavor Leaf]

If you guys wanna talk about actual infection targets, Dave would be my first pick to target.

Dave didn't get infected you knumscull.

Gotcha!

he knows who really got infected because he did the infecting!

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all ask for the Flavor, don’t be caught up when the only Leaf that brings the Beef comes out

[Flavor Leaf]

Dave looks like an infected player who thinks Quick is his partner

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't often see scum as the highest #posts in a game by a 2:1 margin (Quick that is, if you haven't checked the scoreboard lately), but if there were a game I'd be willing to believe it this would be one. Wanted to get that out there before going to eat dinner.

I had double the posts as scum before

[Flavor Leaf]

Do the most.

this man is a gem in the river of garbage. A flavor in an autumn pile of leaves.

Quit giving handjobs to your best friend.

he's top 3 in reasons I enjoy mafia and he's taught me a lot of what ik.

my body my choice.

the reasons he's actually giving make decent sense. and I'll happily follow FL 2 or 3 days if he's making sense to me.

It’s also been a bit since we played with each other.

But it is funny that Quick’s in the game we return to playing with each other

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s also been a bit since we played with each other.

But it is funny that Quick’s in the game we return to playing with each other

this is my first game in a long, long time. That said i honestly dont remember quick. I only remember ppl i play a lot with in a short time.

im wondering if youve seen anything mastina has done? thoughts?

I just remember him from around the time you were scum and miller gambited towards me, he was conf town Vig, and I wanted to policy lynch him because it was higher chances at winning.

I stand by it still, but nothing personal’s held from that game, I legit just think he’s being political here. I think he was scum running the game

[Flavor Leaf]

is not d3 yes, y is FL posting?

Damn, I thought it was. I came in too early.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL, why am I not in the townbloc?
You townread me in all our games so far; what's up now?

I’m pretty sure I’ve said on record I’ve been gut scum reading you here

Thoughts on QuickySplicky?

[Flavor Leaf]

Eh, like I said, i don’t think Quick/Jake are Scum/Scum, and I feel Quick is more likely to be scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Eh, like I said, i don’t think Quick/Jake are Scum/Scum, and I feel Quick is more likely to be scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Eh, like I said, i don’t think Quick/Jake are Scum/Scum, and I feel Quick is more likely to be scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Neat

[Flavor Leaf]

Neat

[Flavor Leaf]

Eh, like I said, i don’t think Quick/Jake are Scum/Scum, and I feel Quick is more likely to be scum

I'm worried this is chain lynching. I was lightly town reading Boon b/c I coulda swore that this whole "im gonna start playing d3!" was something a green pm FL has done b4. Or maybe he did it as scum. Or maybe its null and he does it as both.

You could also interpret this as "push town (Quick) bus buddy (jake)" So could scum be Jake/FL and ???

I don’t chain lynch, and I’ve already said they could even be town town, and I put Jake in my town block.

How is this chain lynching?

I feel scum are feeling threatened by my entrance.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m pretty sure I’ve said on record I’ve been gut scum reading you here

Thoughts on QuickySplicky?

So that didn't change, huh Flavor.
Now I can *actually* say "Nice scumclaim, buddy"

Hadn’t read literally a single one of your posts since then

Why would it have been any different?

[Flavor Leaf]

This is by analysing Wagonomics

I don’t get caught by wagonomics, I’m a VC Master.

It’s more suspicious of me to be cleared through wagonomics tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

In the not-a-suspect list.

When did that change?

I've not been explicitly scumreading him, I was just trying to get him to play more
Flavor's poor showing, and his thinking he's threatening scum with his glorious entrance - that's town indicative, lol. As scum he'd simply go ahead and actually try to do that, and probably not sheep onto a popular wagon.

Honestly, you can only believe about 10% of what FL even says.

Eh, Auro reads me better than anyone right now, if he says I’m scum, I’m scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, you can only believe about 10% of what FL even says.

Yes, but you can also read him off what he says, when compared to what he's actually trying to do.

I got the gift of gab, I don’t try to do anything, i just do it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Fucking baited lol
VOTE: TrueSoulenergy
...Transmission complete...

Lol

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t chain lynch, and I’ve already said they could even be town town, and I put Jake in my town block.

How is this chain lynching?

IG I'm a bit confused then. If you thought Jake was town then calling Jake/Quick "not S/S" seems like weird wording, imo.

I feel scum are feeling threatened by my entrance.

Who is doing this? As far as I know I'm the only one that's questioning you. Am I scum? Feels a little like false bravado.

I don’t think they’re S/S.

They can be town/town.

I just don’t think that’s how scum ever talk to another scum. Maybe it’s a poor reasoning, but I just generally feel that.

The social dynamics of games and players within are part of my specialties.

[Flavor Leaf]

For the record, TSE always tunnels me when I’m town.

I don’t remember if he’s town or scum during said tunnels.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nahdia, let's talk through which parts I'm being naive about.

Tchill13, have you seen scum actually take that strategy before - push all kinds of random but also carrying conviction? Do you think it would look the same when town and scum do it?

Nero, Oka's larger point is that at least they should be the objects of focus right now and not encouraging momentum in that direction atm is anti-town.

Mulch.

Nuff said.

[Flavor Leaf]

alright im gonna post just a bit

{OkaPoka}
{Auro, davezac}
=smol gap=
{Alchemist}
{Ari}
{TSE, 50}
{Creature, Hoctac, gobbledygook, Voted}
{Tchill, Jake, Flavor Leaf}
{mastina, 5G, Quick}
=gap=
{Saudade, Nero Cain}

auro gains a lot of points for his PoEing approach. it feels genuine, like he's actually trying to solve. i think the way he's reading is naive and he's likely townreading at least one scum, but still.

oka continues to be obvtown, as was their predecessor, and the way Nero is just tossing shade his way is scummy. feeling reasonably confident there, when combined with other stuff ive said about him. i also don't like the way he's singling me out when the things he's accusing me of are half the playerbase rn.
Quick... i saw something yesterday when reading up that made me think he's scum, but now idr what that was, and i feel far less certain on him that i do on Saudade and Nero. ill ISO Quick later and see if im still comfy with my vote there. but if im being super honest, im not picky with my push right now. still think we just need more info here more than anything.

Maybe I was wrong to doubt Auro. This is looking pretty Towny from him.

hooray syncronicity. was getting a bit paranoid of ari and alchemist but alch moves back up a rung.

Also, this really deserves to be wagoned. Is anyone TRing this slot or is this slot just going to slide to Endgame?

Yeah, that could die.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm tempted to insult you again. Would you like that?

yes, if ppl like you hate the way I play then im doing something right

I really don’t understand why I’ve seen people hate on your play as much as I have (not saying it’s a lot, that’s just how much I don’t understand any of it.)

[Flavor Leaf]

There must be something here that wasn’t there before

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s my plan, wasnt it. To claim if I got infected.

I’m a trend setter

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve been showing up every day for a few days now, what’re you talking about. And I already stated my Oka-Jake town block.

And I’m never wrong on Okapoka.

[Flavor Leaf]

tbh i don't know if flavor can be BoP'd on me, at least not yet

it is true that every game he is correct on me - at some points, but usually he reads me >>rand when we hit late game

but Quick, most people have me as town right now, what info would you get from me flipping town?

Nope.

I scum read you early then even when you break the town block, I always town read you correctly.

And I’ve been having pretty great solves lately.

So I’ve been trolling and not playing a bit more so I can actually solve

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve been showing up every day for a few days now, what’re you talking about. And I already stated my Oka-Jake town block.

And I’m never wrong on Okapoka.

LOL. Okay. Why is Oka Town? Do you think you can convince me that info lynches in this game are bad?

Hey, just because I don’t want the lynch, doesn’t mean I don’t think there’s no info to be found.

But I’m not going to lynch Oka just for that when I town read him.

You saying that when you have even more info to be had is extremely opportunistic of you

[Flavor Leaf]

Nahdia, let's talk through which parts I'm being naive about.

Tchill13, have you seen scum actually take that strategy before - push all kinds of random but also carrying conviction? Do you think it would look the same when town and scum do it?

Nero, Oka's larger point is that at least they should be the objects of focus right now and not encouraging momentum in that direction atm is anti-town.

Mulch.

Nuff said.

i FUCKING LOVED THAT GUYS PLAY LOL.

wonder where he's been.

Pretty sure he asked to be banned for a year. What a legend.

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Also, for people saying I’m infected number 1 priority. I would have just kept lurking out

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Also, for people saying I’m infected number 1 priority. I would have just kept lurking out

Except that's exactly how I catch you as being Infected. Nice try.

I really think it would be dumb of people to ever infect me when I was straight up not playing.

And I’m known for killing off my traitors as scum almost without fail, i will kill off scum even if I am infected

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Like I said, i will state to cure me if I’m ever infected this game, but the fact you’re pushing me as infected is why you’re scum.

You were setting that up from the beginning by putting me as hard town.

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Like I said, i will state to cure me if I’m ever infected this game, but the fact you’re pushing me as infected is why you’re scum.

You were setting that up from the beginning by putting me as hard town.

That’s actually probably your exact mindset with it.

You probably planned on infecting me eventually specifically so you could push me later.

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Someone said Gryffindor?

I’m here.

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I kinda forgot what was going on in this game

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Question to everyone in this game:

Would you infect me Night 1?

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Question to everyone in this game:

Would you infect me Night 1?

Reasoning would be appreciated, but not necessary.

I’m just seeing if what Quick says actually holds up.

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Can't spell noob without boon

Literally where the name came from, tbh

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Question to everyone in this game:

Would you infect me Night 1?

I only run the Scum ship if I am playing with people who don't know how to strategize as Scum.. Then I will gladly take the reigns. So I have no answer for this game. If it was like, me, 5G, and A50, we would probably for sure Infect you, but this means pretty much nothing unless you think A50 is going for a hard bus here.

A50 would have infected me, which is why I don’t believe A50 is scum.

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Question to everyone in this game:

Would you infect me Night 1?

I only run the Scum ship if I am playing with people who don't know how to strategize as Scum.. Then I will gladly take the reigns. So I have no answer for this game. If it was like, me, 5G, and A50, we would probably for sure Infect you, but this means pretty much nothing unless you think A50 is going for a hard bus here.

A50 would have infected me, which is why I don’t believe A50 is scum.

I don't think this is a particularly helpful way of getting reads, ftr.

Not on a surface level

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Why are people TRing A50?

Let me ask you a counter question: Why are you scumreading me? And I don't mean

surface level

* analysis, but rather what do you think is my scum-motive behind everything you see as scummy from me?

Disclaimer: I do NOT want to undermine Quick's SR on me (assuming he flips green), but would really like to know what he thinks of me and on what basis. I understand a SR from Nero (that's how he thinks), and I understand a TR from Ari (also see his PoV), but I cannot see why I am being SR'd by Quick nor what basis he has for it, and I merely want to know.

*FL Trademark. Used under permission, All rights reserved.

Permission granted. You may also use

Hatcheting

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I kinda forgot what was going on in this game

I think Tom Hardy was asking for you somewhere

I accidentally told Tom Hardy “more energy next time” because he sneaked onto the new Matrix 4 filming after he wrapped his day shooting the new Venom, and pretended he was background, and I realized right after what just happened, as he continued by. Awkward, but funny story.

Both of those did like 3-4 weeks of shooting in downtown SF overnights.

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See people don’t infect me unless strong partner connection is there, a la A50 and Auro, however Auro probably wouldn’t infect me because of that and A50 would do it because he wouldn’t do it because he would do it

Tchill would likely do it a few days in, not immediately, similar to what Aristo said.

Nero wouldn’t do it.

Mastina would never infect me.

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Question to everyone in this game:

Would you infect me Night 1?

Reasoning would be appreciated, but not necessary.

I’m just seeing if what Quick says actually holds up.

You fall in the group of people who can catch me as scum, therefore infect+kill would certainly be in the realm of possibility.
Don't know if N1 though.

This is generally how I’m feeling. I don’t think I’d be a Night 1 infect the majority of the time here, if ever.

Quick just is rightfully raising me up on a pedestal, so I’ll take it for what it is, I guess

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I could go Mastina.

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See people don’t infect me unless strong partner connection is there, a la A50 and Auro, however Auro probably wouldn’t infect me because of that and A50 would do it because he wouldn’t do it because he would do it

Tchill would likely do it a few days in, not immediately, similar to what Aristo said.

Nero wouldn’t do it.

Mastina would never infect me.

Who is to say A50 hasn't infected you tho? Like.. you are saying the premise is true due to the premise being true. It's not even circular, it's just you saying something assuming it's true hence it's true.

Well, I know it’s not true, so I’m not gonna act like it’s not true.

And A50 isn’t 100% of the time gonna do it. And he’s playing too closely to me for me to be straight scum.

I don’t think A50 is scum, though, here, and if I were infected, I wouldn’t even know who scum was still, so

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Means you’re scum or your reads are wrong

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Alternatively, Hoctac could just be scum, I just wanted to shade because it’s fun

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A50 was 50JP :O
WHO KNEW!!!
(Nice to see you on your main my friend! I take this account more seriously. Do you?)

I do. A50 is me without any gimmicks (if I use one it's still the real me and probably how I would act IRL)

Rick Dalton is me without any gimmicks.

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Who you voting Quick?

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Who you voting Quick?

Like... look 20 posts back. I am voting Hactoc.

30 posts back, but still. It's on the page just before this. R U serious?

Hey, TownFL doesn’t pay attention to games if they’re not heavily in it.

VOTE: Hoctac

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I’ll just sheep Quick because I think the flip is funny and my reads are mush.

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Who you voting Quick?

Like... look 20 posts back. I am voting Hactoc.

30 posts back, but still. It's on the page just before this. R U serious?

Hey, TownFL doesn’t pay attention to games if they’re not heavily in it.

VOTE: Hoctac

No, No. Don't buy it. Don't buy it, I say.

Not my meta, i didn’t even realize it majorly until someone else brought it up earlier this year.

Similar to years and years back when a newbie I was IC played a couple games with me and brought up that they thought I was scum because I was saying “haha” and “Lol” a lot more than when I was town.

They had me and i didn’t even know. I fixed that tell, however.

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Hey, TownFL doesn’t pay attention to games if they’re not heavily in it.

I'd argue that this is bad play if you are doing this intentionally.

It’s not intentional, i just state what’s on my mind. You should know better than anyone if I’m in a game, I’m IN a game.

But the issue is when I’m not fully in it, when I am present, I try to be in it as much as I can, but don’t know a lot of what’s going on.

But i try to give the ol Flavor leaf wisdom still

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Mastina prob

IS

infected. That whole "your going out of your way to scumread me and get me scum read" is just so whiney.


She'd also make a ton of sense to be infected n1. Sorry, FL.

I feel this is what I said.

I’m Never Night 1 infected here.

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So you're claiming infected?

What is your mind not getting? I'm a jester. I self-hammered and am now celebrating.

Well, there was some discussion that infected would play like Jesters since their lynch is preferable to a scum lynch

Jesters also play like Jester too

Disagree

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So you're claiming infected?

What is your mind not getting? I'm a jester. I self-hammered and am now celebrating.

Well, there was some discussion that infected would play like Jesters since their lynch is preferable to a scum lynch

Jesters also play like Jester too

Disagree

By definition, Jesters have to play like Jesters because any play made by a Jester is a Jester play.

Wait until I finally roll jester

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Unvote yourself. I was lurking waiting to hammer if someone put you to L-1

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I was half hoping Quick would have voted you there

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Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

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Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

VOTE: Jake

Voted wrong person

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@Pisskop, I’m with ya buddy, scum games drain the hell out of you after a while where it makes even your town games not wanna be efforted. It’s nice to play without caring sometimes. (Still playing to win obviously, but mentally last year drained me. After team mafia, I’ve just been kind of coasting everywhere.

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@Tchill - I've already caught scum. Auro's obv scum, but it's too much effort to push right now.

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mastina can be a broken clock.

I don't think anyone here (prob not even myself) as such go tier reads that they should be sheeped without question. Mastina being town means she was genuine, thats all but hey, if we all agree with a read then why not "sheep"?

As it stands both Mastina and Blair also thought gobbles was scum. Both oka and Quick are prob scum so it seems like a decent wagon.

pretty sure mastina makes sure she's genuine as scum too, so thats not even an AI thing. she plays safe.

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every main wagon is on town right now.

Auro vote parking me like that with nobody else on me is scum indicative, and if I actually started gaining traction he'd unvote, because he doesnt wanna pressure me too hard or i'll come out of hibernation. him being there means scum is happy with where the gamestate is.

I also dont understand the aristo wagon.

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every main wagon is on town right now.

you don't know this unless u r scum

Do you believe town me wouldn't believe that all main wagons, Aristo, Gobb, and the other one, are town based on thinking theyre aimless, and people can't find scum, then thinking because I don't scum read them, they can't be scum?

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TSE i'd say is the other one. only 3 have more than 1 vote, which is where I'm referring to.

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every main wagon is on town right now.

you don't know this unless u r scum

Do you believe town me wouldn't believe that all main wagons, Aristo, Gobb, and the other one, are town based on thinking theyre aimless, and people can't find scum, then thinking because I don't scum read them, they can't be scum?

you could believe that yes but you're stating it as a fact and it isn't unless u r scum.

Do you think I don't believe my opinion isn't fact?

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Me? I guarantee I'm not getting ignored. My posts stand out. Gift of gab, baby.

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Do you think I don't believe my opinion isn't fact?

I think if you're town then you believe in w/e u say. If you're scum its a perspective slip. I'm technically right and I'm not really sure why you are hung up on "BUT DO U THINK I BELIEVE!?!? Its a very silly thing, I think.

Me? I guarantee I'm not getting ignored. My posts stand out. Gift of gab, baby.

You've had like 0 impact this game and you aren't leasing an auro wagon or even voting for it. Your "gift of gab" isn't really getting used unless you are scum and you've mainly avoided suspicion.

I’m just being silly, Nero.

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VOTE: nero cain

am i insane? have i lost it? or am i a magical wizard? find out next time on dragon ball z

Could be. Not sure. I could see him trying to chop be me down as scum just in case I did end up posting a lot.

But nothing townNero wouldnt do

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Seeeecret tunnel

3 points to anyone who knows

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I’ve already explained why Auro is scum. And I was scum reading Auro prior to him voting me, so that’s suspicious of Nero to phrase it the way he did.

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every main wagon is on town right now.

Auro vote parking me like that with nobody else on me is scum indicative, and if I actually started gaining traction he'd unvote, because he doesnt wanna pressure me too hard or i'll come out of hibernation. him being there means scum is happy with where the gamestate is.

I also dont understand the aristo wagon.

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I was scum reading him Day 1, so that’s not the initial reason. That’s just a more definitive reason because you guys won’t accept the “i just can read Auro” stance.

I’ve nullified his existence in this game just by doing so.

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VOTE: Auro

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You all make some good points

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Okapoka, that was a scummy opportunistic vote that seems like an extreme swing vote.

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One of the other wagons is a scum wagon.

OkaPoka possibly just saved a 5G tower wagon from gaining more traction

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VOTE: 5G

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Ugh, this is happening too gast

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Fast

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I honestly have zero interest in actually investing in this game.

I am infection-immune, and as long as I’m alive the amount of infected players gets announced at daystart.

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Day 4 is long enough, i know for a fact I wasn’t targeted Night 1 based on a new infection bar any randoms being able to infect.

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but most importantly, flavor even while lacking in activity, still has an effect of whiplash solves and tries to do these emotional solves which this flavor is not doing, in fact this flavor is very much acting kinda utilitarian in a way which is simply not town flavor. like unless he is talking about him being infected or not, his play this game is ultimately surprisingly lacking in the selfishness we all know flavor has and when has flavor ever decided to play this much ball with town


maybe he really doesn't give a fuck but i doubt it, him not flaking as town shows that the wheels would be turning and i really don't see the wheels turning this long so yeah cmon and dance with me

Honestly, it’s just this game. I actually have an established meta of being less interested in games as town than I do as scum, so i don’t know what meta you’re getting at.

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I also didn’t do anything in that alisae game that got canceled like at all that game.

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knowing how flavor leaf operates, and pisskop confirming he is infected, flavor leaf is just group scum who just is kinda apathetic to playing scum after playing team mafia 2020, but still has some of the quality innate scumplay he has always had, like its natural for him to seem townie

he lacks that distinct, i want to redeem myself town!flavor we've seen recently, don't @me this one is scum thank me later

Oh, is this the point.

Yeah, i stopped caring about redeeming myself when I had a good few town solves earlier this year and I heel turned. My heel turn’s ended now, though.

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Also, I believe I have 4-5 scum victories this year, so idk what the “apathetic from Team Mafia” thing has to do with anything

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The amount of new infected

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If I were scum, Tchill or A50 would have been immediately infected.

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I don't buy that anyone is immune from the start. FL would be a prime target for scum. PK being infected gives me the impression someone or somethree who knows him suggested him as a target.

to be fair, there's a chance im lying because of scum.

I will claim if I ever get infected.

Claiming scum by yourself is always completely legal, isn't it? So yeah, if there was a scenario where I'm lying about the immune infect, and scum infect me, I will claim it to prove I'm not group scum.

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started during my burnout period, and now it's 250 pages in, and it's a cult game.

I'm just kind of here for the ride.

I have been checking in socially, and i read the stuff around me when I'm present, so I have an okay perspective of the game. I'm really just hoping something happens where I can just auto click in and end up solving.

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why would it be me? I'm probably gonna be conf town at some point this game.

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woo, maybe this game will some time. I just finished a game on my alt.

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I find scum are less likely to read the setup as they communicate in their own thread which usually contains their role PMs and wincons. I think A50 assumed it was a closed setup where we didn't know how many town vs scum. It's pretty obvious he wasn't testing anything and town have no reason to claim 3p.

I’m the opposite. I usually read everything more when I’m scum. You can see that in Animals UPick when I see every ounce of rules Krazy had given to my advantage

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Damn, guys. That scum game took over for me. This is the only game I’m in now, so maybe I’ll do something.

Maybe.

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Anti elli tell, I’m more active as scum.

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Havent read it

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not outside of either of our scum range, A50, so the answer is yes to that.

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I’ve posted

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Oh since L-1

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Can someone find me my reports from the beginning of the day? My internet is being annoying.

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Can someone find me my reports from the beginning of the day? My internet is being annoying.

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I only slip in neighborhoods. It's how I'm balanced because I'm also super good in neighborhoods, both alignments.

You can't have a bunch of 10 stats with no faultiness.

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I also have a 2 in Humbleness, but a 6 in Modesty.

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eh, switch those.

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okay.

VOTE: Auro

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This IS a meme cult game. Lynching infected people IS good for infected (as OG scum stay alive) and good for town (what Dave said, also on the flip side iff town PRs don't end up swinging the game towards town, >70% get infected and would win together anyway) and bad for scum (more days to achieve parity and can get caught by then).

So infected people are functionally Jesters, and that is playing to their win-con (as Mastina said) which should be fun

It's definitely not fun if infected people just CLAIM infected and we lynch them though!

makes sense you'd be annoyed by that.

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who's the night 1 infection?

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i dont care about being scummy or not.

Who's the night 1 infection and why do we know?

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i dont care about being scummy or not.

Who's the night 1 infection and why do we know?

I literally posted a day ago, so I hardcore disagree with me being prodded.

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is this a 24 hour prod game? because I'm not posting every day, just not happening, not this game.

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On Tuesday through Friday, you will prodded after 32 hours of inactivity. On Saturday and Monday, you will be prodded after 48 hours of inactivity. On Sunday, you will be prodded after 60 hours of inactivity."

I was at 30 hours.

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And it just hit Tuesday, so I'm not sure how that works.

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I'm not keeping up with that, so I'm likely getting replaced this game.

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no clue what's going on right now tbh. whoever called it scummy when I asked about the night 1 infection instead of answering my question ruined any sense of caring about this game. and i already had very little.

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mixed in with the prod.