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[Isis]

kanna you were supposed to do stuff and then after you were done doing stuff I was supposed to feel more confident about who the scumteam was whether or not that put you as a part of it but kanna you have not delivered I need so little from you and I get even less

[Isis]

YAY

[Isis]

Ico kinda tunneled me in autumnal. Do you feel he is tunneling this game?

[Isis]

Hectic and Kanna will try to roleplay eachother, at least Hectic will roleplay Kanna, but I think Kanna has transitioned out of Hectic's Hecticrange here with lots of little things, like the use of ellipses, asking "please" instead of being brutish, and pediting transparency

[Isis]

otoh everyone still thinks this is a popsofctown alt and it's been WEEKS my range is limitless

[Isis]

Isis, outside of Ico, how would you actually rank Conspire/Pink/Ame in terms of reads?

~Hex

THAT'S THE QUESTION I DON'T/CAN'T WANNA ANSWER STOP THE SUFFERING

[Isis]

page 56 looks like two townies jamming together to arrive at a correct townread on town

Except if it is that, the only scum is Pink and Enter randed the setup wrong, so it's not that.

So what is it actually, is it theater, Conspire pretending to townread both Ame and Iconeum, or Ame pretending to reconsider? Or two townies coming together to be miraculously wrong about Iconeum?

I really, probably, should not reconsider betting the game on Ico!town

[Isis]

I feel like I can sort Pink at the bottom right now. I feel like Pink's calculus on whether it would advantage me to push before LyLo is a logical reasoning when bugspray seems more like an emotional player to me. So it comes off like a mimicry that's an amalgamation of bugspray's thoughts and the way bugspray has seen other players who rolled town do, without a more likely emotional feeling bugspray would have about this lylo at this point. The assessment of quickhammers seemed similarly cold.

[Isis]

The quality of your logic isn't really relevant, it's the choice to focus on logic at all. I don't think you're unintelligent, fwiw

[Isis]

Failing to bring us to her conclusions seemed like NAI or TI poor workmanship, Ame, you can't conflate wrong with town.

I'm confused about a meta of Hectic that he looks deeply into motivations when he's town.... sorry Hectic... don't be mad...

I think Pink Ame is my favorite team right now.

[Isis]

Ame stop scaring me

[Isis]

Ame can you be scum with Pink

and claim scum

[Isis]

this will be the funnest game I ever throw

[Isis]

is it time to reread abnormal adventures and see how traumatized I get

[Isis]

Failing to bring us to her conclusions seemed like NAI or TI poor workmanship, Ame, you can't conflate wrong with town.

I'm confused about a meta of Hectic that he looks deeply into motivations when he's town.... sorry Hectic... don't be mad...

I think Pink Ame is my favorite team right now.

I've seen town Kanna and scum Kanna in action. Scum Kanna pretends to be thinking through things, but holds off on forming a conclusion so she has the flexibility to maneuver and so that she is associated with saying something indicative. Town Kanna is much more bold in her interpretations.

I haven't really seen this and I'm not in a state where I can trust you're town and follow it

[Isis]

Isis can you state your reason for scumreading me? I keep asking you this because you keep coming back to scum!me out of paranoia and I am trying to reignite your reasoning centers when it happens. It is an irrational fear resulting from your experience with Purgatory. I know it shook you, but I am not scum here. Look back on your town case of me and see if you can find holes in it. Approach this with the prefrontal cortex, not the amygdala.

You mislynched all sorts of townies and then shot shiki wanting to mislynch her. You kill so many people and they're all town. That makes it more likely you have been protecting yourself and a partner all game

[Isis]

VOTE: Vaporeon

[Isis]

UNVOTE: Eevees. Eevee of any kind.

[Isis]

You mislynched all sorts of townies and then shot shiki wanting to mislynch her. You kill so many people and they're all town. That makes it more likely you have been protecting yourself and a partner all game

I mislynched one player. I did not shoot Shiki. This is an invalid reason to scum read me. Additionally, it is fairly obvious that the Shiki shot was meant to put me in a bad light.

you were on RCE and S_S right? And weren't you on Jake's lynch or were you off of it?

[Isis]

Why did you put S_S at L-1 if you didn't want him lynched?

Scum are more likely to be on town wagons. They vote just as much and are less likely to vote their partner.

I think you have voted for town more times than any other player except me. If that's wrong I can be corrected.

Your votes don't differ from mine.

[Isis]

The votecount says you lynched Jake also
Why did you vote him if you townread him?

[Isis]

Why is Pink town Ame?

[Isis]

What if it's
Pink Ame

[Isis]

I'm having trouble deciding/parsing how detached earlobe/unattached earlobe 1276 would be from Ame's alignment but like the post sounds like someone who knows all the flips of the game (talking to Pink like Pink is town, high degree of certainty I am scum and not a townie excited I whimsied a bus) and like I kind of don't like it for that reason?

[Isis]

I worry if it's not Pink Ame then town votes town so it doesn't matter anyway.

[Isis]

I don't know if Ame's read progression on me makes sense at all

it made so much more sense in Chiptune

[Isis]

Kanna was in it you could ask her

[Isis]

She was on her alt though

popsofctown

[Isis]

Everyone whose name starts with an "I" rolled town this game, iKanna.

[Isis]

Hiding your reads so that the mafia don't know which player to bring to LyLo with their NK is an underrated strategy in the right spots. Not gamestates that resemble this one at all, but I like to mention it sometimes.

[Isis]

meta is overrated

[Isis]

Spoiler:

What do you mean about being stated in question form?

~Hex

I think Ame's town for the last couple of pages?

This and the time frame (~20 min between posts) lead me to doubt the sincerity of the read.

So your concern is the amount of time it took for me to state the read? I don't see why that should be the case; I didn't have to look rrhough any meta, it was an assessment of your character/personality. Also, the question shows unsureness, how is that scummy?

~Hex

Which one of you made that post?

~Hex

Even though the avatar for this hydra is adorable I don't think Umbreon fits Hectic very much and it kinda bugs me sometimes

[Isis]

Ame if we're town together and I'm bad which scumteam is it, Conspire/Iconeum or Conspire/Pink?

[Isis]

I think I haven't been town in a 5p LyLo in the last year.

I'm torn between Flareon and Jolteon. It's mostly I would rank Vaporeon and Umbreon on the bottom. I could see pretty much any of the others as Hectic.

[Isis]

The only two players in this game that haven't made a convincing showing of trying to sort each other are

Fire Sneakers and Enter

Ame and Pink and that's like this big reason it seems like the solve to me

[Isis]

let's agree on flareon

[Isis]

Flareon it is! I'll send out a commission now. Or maybe I can just do some colour adjusting and photoshop in a bushier tail...

~Hex

Do you have a smartphone? Most of them have cameras. What you could do is go catch an Eevee, expose it to a Fire Stone, then bring it into a well-lit room and snap a pic then upload it. So long as you have a smartphone, that'd be the main thing, if you don't have one you might have to go with this commission stuff.

[Isis]

I feel like I'm in one of those goon goon mason mason LyLos and it's either Conspire-Ico or Pink-Ame. Why didn't I get to be a Mason? I really don't think scum is bussing right now.

[Isis]

why is she trying to murder that cute little girl that's dark

[Isis]

Pretty convenient explanation Ame. And like if it's Iconspirum it's true and a townie can have someone calibrated like that. but it's not really going to help me. You kind of TMI'd him town from early on like Conspire has highlighted

[Isis]

71% win for scum

I'm Mr. Blonde

Think town!Ame shouldn't feel robbed

[Isis]

1550 makes me uncomfortable

[Isis]

why would scum Ame laugh out loud at that, or think to fabricate laughing, if that's the correct partner

[Isis]

Why is mafia hard and why am I so bad at it

[Isis]

A townie put three people at L1

>_>

[Isis]

Ame go ahead and vote Conspire I feel very sure it won't be town voting town by this point.

[Isis]

Agreement isn't really necessary since it won't be town voting town.

It will be as weighty as an FoS.

[Isis]

Sometimes when I think about Ame not being town I get sad

[Isis]

only briefly
it's just a game and stuff

[Isis]

but like i wish it was kickball so i could pick her

[Isis]

I'm at like 85 pinkame 10 iconspire 4% the pairings are different from that 1% enter inverted the flavor for mafia and maybe i misread my role pm

[Isis]

[Isis]

iconeum is not going to try to sway me either
Mr Pink I appoint you amicus curiae

[Isis]

i feel really stressed cause if Ame is scum I need to lynch her and if he's town he's put a lot of effort into this game and deserves the most accurate assessment

[Isis]

1601 was posted without seeing 1600, pedit didnt catch it

but then admittedly i posted 1604 without reading back through about the topic

[Isis]

yeah conspire's attitude towards your ico read is icky and kind of goalpost movey?

i think conspire is independently scummier than Pink mayhaps

[Isis]

1602 was not resonant to me at allllll

[Isis]

I don't really want to reread iconeum at this point i just don't think i can adopt a different approach

i think i might lie down and reread conspire and ame in this game though

[Isis]

If I multi iso ame and conspire who should be the third?

[Isis]

I found a townslip

[Isis]

"Shiki, you lack the mindset of a detective. A detective does not inform the suspect of what they intend to do before they do it. They steak them out and wait to catch them in the act. You"

Isn't it kind of weird to shade someone calling them a detective if you have a copy role PM? I think you would rewrite it

[Isis]

I mean I've seen ame scumread town for NAI meta before

Meta just isn't as good as cold reading people oftentimes even when it's available.
If I say "meta sux" enough time will Ame vote me and then I won't have to ruminate anymore??

[Isis]

My avatar bias is really bad and Ame changed her avatar to an evil looking guy during this lylo D:

[Isis]

Wouldn't that be kinda schleazy tho? Like, it does seem like something where you could plausibly get the mod's cooperation but also it's kinda schleazy. Like that time Gamma Emerald asked "hey mod did the N0 kill get sent in during confirmation or later on because then I have an idea of whether it was RC or a less active user". Something scum!Isis does once every never.

[Isis]

Hectic's theory is you oversimulated doubting my character in the process of simulating doubting my alignment, I think, but most of me thinks those would be separate anyway and you just expect less out of me than I thought

[Isis]

Hectic do you hard townread me even though I'm scum yet

[Isis]

I'm worried in a more general sense Channel Same addresses every topic with soap opera volume and soap opera inflection so lots of things look performative

[Isis]

My phone believe ame needs an s in front

[Isis]

Pandora is lying on top of my so I can't type sorry not sorry

[Isis]

Probably a lower level

Many many players say I have a scummy tone
I try not to be sarcastic too often but I'm probably sarcastic too often

The vote gambit wasn't sarcasm though I was definitely trying to mess with people to get reads on people

[Isis]

Maybe you detect that Isis has a dark subattribute

[Isis]

Her primary is water tho

[Isis]

She has a kind of Mona Lisa smile, doesn't she? My old avatar was new year tsukiyomi but she had a Mona Lisa smile too

[Isis]

Night night

[Isis]

#notadatisialt

[Isis]

1602 was not resonant to me at allllll

Do you not share my love for LyLo? It's the most exciting part of the game for me. I think it's most fun to be the decider but it doesn't look like that's happening today lul

~Hexit

i'm anti-hexit no founding document provides any process for you leave ms.net tyvm

[Isis]

Pink can you give me a readslist in your next post

[Isis]

I kind of have to kill the pink ame masonry over the iconspire masonry just because pink not reading the game or engaging means the town!pink universes get town voting town.
VOTE: Steve buscemi

[Isis]

I kind of have to kill the pink ame masonry over the iconspire masonry just because pink not reading the game or engaging means the town!pink universes get town voting town.
VOTE: Steve buscemi

The dichotomy isn't correct though. It may be Pinkspire or Pinkico.

Well that wouldn't render my vote incorrect would it?

[Isis]

I kind of have to kill the pink ame masonry over the iconspire masonry just because pink not reading the game or engaging means the town!pink universes get town voting town.
VOTE: Steve buscemi

The dichotomy isn't correct though. It may be Pinkspire or Pinkico.

Well that wouldn't render my vote incorrect would it?

Only if we eliminate Iconspire.

Right, I've eliminated it in the pragmatic sense of "I can't beat iconspire anyway, because pink will almost always throw". That's paired with me being doubtful that that's the team to begin with

[Isis]

I kind of have to kill the pink ame masonry over the iconspire masonry just because pink not reading the game or engaging means the town!pink universes get town voting town.
VOTE: Steve buscemi

translation plz?

My previous post should help.

Please vote Steve buscemi, I'm still your top townread right?

[Isis]

I'm Mr orange

[Isis]

ame played well this game regardless alignment

[Isis]

Vote with me anyway to prove your trust ico

[Isis]

Ame if u vote Steve buscemi this is your really good chance for me to feel paranoid of ico and maybe put you town in an ending solve

[Isis]

:0

[Isis]

Ico I really don't like the way you are acting

[Isis]

Ico I really don't like the way you are acting

I fear 1 lylo

Like, exactly 1

do you know which one that is?

I'm assuming you mean 1 3p LyLo and no I dont

[Isis]

I think it makes sense fwiw

[Isis]

Which 3p LyLo are you afraid of?

Also why are you preferring to not know what type of LyLo vote has been cast when you could look it up in two seconds? It seems like a preferred ignorance with strategic benefit

[Isis]

i don't think i'm moving away from ame + mr pink

That's why not sheeping a vote that can't be for iconeum or conspire bothers me draconic

[Isis]

UNVOTE:
Pedit:oh no

[Isis]

Enter you lock first

[Isis]

i'm so sorry...

If it's ame conspire I'm not even mad.
If it's iconspire I stand by the throw percent was so high

If it's ame iconeum I'm a bit mad

[Isis]

It can't be ame iconeum so I'm not mad

[Isis]

The game is over iconeum

[Isis]

Sorry ame

[Isis]

Enter has never failed to count a joke vote all game? Fire sneakers was a joke vote for Nancy drew 39

[Isis]

Hydras are OP cause they can quickhammer twice as often

I do dislike losing to a hydra a little bit, even if I like Kanna and hectic individually

[Isis]

Yay my civil disobediences worked

[Isis]

I didn't interpret it that way considering that Azelf is not gen1. So when enter said everyone knows pokemon, he meant the art style would suggest to a bystander that it was probably a Pokemon or Digimon and was googlable, not that the vote could be immediately interpreted

[Isis]

I was starting to townread some thingies from ame in my reread. If pink wasn't acting like he would probably mislynch me in 3p 9/10 times anyway I would have kept rereading

[Isis]

I have to retire the different joke tell now maybe

[Isis]

I did not enjoy LyLo and feel sads

[Isis]

Mafia is so hard

[Isis]

How is pink right with his reads

I asked him for reads so I could see which branches of this game were winnable
And he just basically said "no"

[Isis]

Conspire switching signing is like a perfect example of why I don't like to count losses to hydras as losses >_>
I mean sure no one knows if it helped, double player slots are kind of silly though. Would have loved to ask some other player for a LyLo solve

[Isis]

Yeah this game was modded fine. Not really my kind of movie which is an idosyncratic reason I'm not hyperbolic

[Isis]

I probably played 9th best amongst the players in the game

[Isis]

it might be unclear from my postings that this game is easily like in the top 20% of most enjoyable games I play and my queueing strategy largely aims to replicate these types of experiences.

[Isis]

I probably played 9th best amongst the players in the game

u were very scary at the end

scary enough to scare a dragon

if conspire didn't hammer, i think this game was developping towards a town win

i feel like I want to feel good for coming to a snap take that either iconspire or pinkame was the pairing. I've been against looking at the connected graph of a game as a whole for a long time because it's tricky but I'm starting to do it more and I don't think I was a strong enough player to deduce out that kind of thing 2 years ago

at the same time maybe i shouldn't give myself credit for anything in the games I throw

[Isis]

i said this to enter as well:

i think the game was a lot closer then it appears. if ame and you got together (and it was steadily going that way), i think you would have lynched conspire

that puts me in a rough spot for lylo

you just send pink to lylo and get him to ML me

[Isis]

this game feels so warm and fuzzy

I also <3 everyone here!

~karma

p-edit: for sure! I really did think we were going to be the lynch today, and because we hard defended Ico, we pretty much linked ourselves to it

is this hectic or kanna

[Isis]

I felt sad because I felt like I had far more than the necessary prerequisite information to solve that LyLo and didn't solve it. But sure S_S I played poorly in a mafia game so no matter what comment I've just made it will always be kn-topic that I played poorly in a mafia game, and what I really need in a postgame discussion of a mafia game where I've played poorly and have admitted such is for someone to tell me I'm undeserving of human sympathy because I misplayed at a video game.
Geez.