Pagetopping this.In post 5174, mastina wrote:Oh hey! Guess what?In post 2123, mastina wrote:I mean. Circa two years ago my scumplay was among the best of the best onsite, but I don't know what happened to it, a year and a half of having drawn almost exclusively town role PMs (I went over 20 games in a row without drawing scum!), and for whatever reason. I just.In post 1947, Vecna wrote:Also, her statements that she always makes that her scum game is oh so bad is not always actually the case.Haven't been able to play scum worth a damn this year. Give me a little time and I can give you some examples demonstrating the utter lack of ability to play that alignment.While, admittedly, many of these scumgames had extenuating circumstances which incentivized that lack of playing scum, not all of them had it and even ones whichshouldn'thave been that way, ones which Ishouldhave been able to play to my fullest at the level scumastina is known for.
Well.
I just.
Didn't.
So.
My scumgame in 2020 is, yes, objectively--terrible, demonstrably so. I will admit. It having been objectively terrible in every single scumgame this year does not mean that I couldn't magically have a scumastina performance at the level I'm usually known for! It could happen! But it hasn't, multiple times, hasn't. Why, dunno. Just is.Remember this?In post 2862, mastina wrote:Oh! Also.
I typed this up yesterday while I was waiting for the game to end (it was after the hammer vote, so I needed to wait for the mod announcement thus why I PMd the mods of the game to try and hasten their official ending of the game), in defense of myself. Sadly, the thread here locked before I got the chance to post it, butstill thought I'd post it all the same.
Typed just after Enter was hammered in Tatsuya's game wrote:Btw I said a while back that I could prove fairly definitively that my scumgame in 2020 has been incredibly lackluster, but I only had two examples at the time I could legally link due to ongoing games (where my slot was flipped scum, so I wasn't condemning my slot by saying I had lackluster games, but couldn't reference them).
Well, now, fresh off the presses, I can finally link a third!
To wit, this was the entirety of my iso in Skyrim UPick.
Go take a look at that game and tell me I put in any amount of effort compared to this game.
This was the entirety of my iso in Saga Mafia.
Go take a look at that game and tell me I put in any amount of effort compared to this game.
And fresh off the presses, here's a third scumgame of mine this year.
I was in a hydra, so let me link you to every single post I made that game:
Post 1
Post 2
Post 3
Post 4
Post 5
Post 6
Post 7
Post 8
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Post 10
Post 11
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Post 13
Those thirteen posts were the entirety of my contribution to the game, save for a couple of posts in the neighborhood. Those posts?In post 3, Wonderful Deceit wrote:What aIn post 2, Wonderful Deceit wrote:lets go with stonedweedcodeword to have chosen.In post 10, mastina wrote:Alisae be a big bulli who bullied the mod.That was it.In post 12, mastina wrote:Gotta say, not an avatar I associate with you RCE but it is certainly something which makes you much much much more town.
I realize people tend not to click links, so let me put in spoiler tags the entirety of my thirteen posts in that game to show my contributions to that game as scum:Still think I'm bullshitting about not being able to play scum this year after a scumgame like that one?Spoiler: My scum iso that game
Still think that my play this game is comparable to my scumgames?
Yes well as it so happens there was one other ongoing scumgame of mine! I was flipped at the time but needed to wait for the game to end before I could officially link it (just like the UPick), but now that it's officially over, I can add it to the repertoire and say that I havefourlackluster scumgames in 2020. FOUR lackluster scumgames. Four.
How many scumgames have I had that weren't lackluster?
Zero!
How many towngames have I had that were lackluster? Well, depends on your definition. Lackluster in terms of result--one, doubles mafia, where I was playing incredibly suboptimally and the game is the first objective failure of the year on most metrics. (I was obvtown plenty enough, but that was my only real saving grace from otherwise fairly self-evidently shitty play.) Lackluster in terms of activity? Also one, but a different one; that'd be Krazy's Upick game.
How many towngames have I had that were similar to this one? Five!
You can check the games I've played in the last six months for yourself if you think that self-meta is in any way invalid.
But to reiterate--every scumgame is linked conveniently in this post with a link to my iso or even quoting the entirety of it in one case.
So you can easily compare those scumgames to here.
And then also compare here to the numerous towngames.
When I say there's a night and day difference between my towngame and my scumgame.
There's a fucking night and day difference between my towngame and my bloody scumgame.
And it's literally there for the record, in easily-digestible, easily-factchecked, easily-confirmed fashion, with just as easy a comparison to my play in this game. And that's just the recent six months, but if you extend it back further, nothing in that meta changes within the last year and a half at least.
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And, I promised an updated readslist. Here's the short version, I'll quote this post with explanations of relevant read shifts in a moment.
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Miss Lynch/OkaPoka
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Didn't you arrive at the correct PoEs along with me and Vecna in Doubles?In post 5174, mastina wrote:one, doubles mafia, where I was playing incredibly suboptimally- mastina
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The first read here to explain is Tchill--he's moved up to the strong town category. (The Auro-Oka tier is the locktown tier; the Quick-Tchill tier is the strong town tier.) Everything I've been seeing from him over and over and over again suggests that he's just town here and honestly the strength of the Quick/Hoctac/Tchill reads are interchangeable because all three are so town that they're almost locktown and in fact I am actually considering just moving all three up and removing the strong town tier altogether.In post 5176, mastina wrote:Quick
Hoctac
Tchill13
Elements/Nahdia
Alchemist21 + davesaz
Flavor Leaf
Almost50
momo/Creature/Blair
Aristophanes
Jake the Wolfie
5G Tower
Saudade/pisskop
farside22/gobbledygook
Thereabouts, will explain in a sec.
That, or turning it into the Nahdia/davesaz tier, because both are pretty damn good townreads here, albeit not to the same extent as Quick, Hoctac, and Tchill are. Nahdia's content just oozes town and similarly so for davesaz's.
I remain cautiously optimistic that this is a town Flavor Leaf and similarly so for Almost50.
Blair has, as I mentioned, overwhelming gut reaction of not being scum.
Aristophanes is the read which has reversed in that I think that his more recent postingdoesshow the strong signs of life I'd expect from Aristophanes as town.
Which leaves the bottom four.
Jake is outright claiming infected as close as he can within the rules of the game. He's doing as much as he can to say he is infected. This means either he's infected or he's scum faking infected. I lean the former over the latter, meaning he's not an optimal lynch, but I'll take him if I can't get any of the others.
5G's content this game is dismal. Active lurking, no scumhunting, opportunistic-as-fuck stances voting for convenient wagons. The slot has an INCREDIBLY high chance of being scum.
pisskop/Turkey are both replacements that are not living up to my expectations of them and are doing what I'd expect to see from them as scum. (Well, in the case of pisskop, at least. This is looking an awful lot like the pisskop I was spearheading the scum lynch of in TemporalLich's game since pisskop's done basically identical in this game what he did in that game.)
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Oh I was working with you and Vecna alright but I locktowned Molla, who was scum (as I have said; calling town scum? Not a failure from me--calling scum locktown? Utter failure on my part) and Not_Mafia was, if you're being generous to me, null.In post 5177, Auro wrote:
Didn't you arrive at the correct PoEs along with me and Vecna in Doubles?In post 5174, mastina wrote:one, doubles mafia, where I was playing incredibly suboptimally
I did have Ceph in my poe, sure, and if you're feeling generous, you could say I had Gamma there too (but that'd be awfully generous given that he was more nulltown), but requiring half of the scumteam to be null IF being generous, with one scum as locktown? Means that uhhhh. Yeah. A bit lackluster in reads, no? It is the first game in 2020 I've felt bad about for good reason; it's the first game where I felt I was not performing at the level Ishouldbe. Granted, yes, I did one thing right, being obvtown, but reads-wise, not so much.- Nahdia
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if jake wasnt actually lynched can we lynch 5g actually. like i get the point about introducing new wagons but i feel like that slot really needs rope and idk why it hasnt happened.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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fine. im not gonna fight for it.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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but i do think the fact that there has been all this talk on his slot but no big wagon like jake/hoctac got is potentially tellingwe're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Not gonna lie--right now I want to focus on anything other than this game, but I'll at least say that if I do focus elsewhere I'll still be reading here so if a wagon forms on any of my three scumreads, fuck yes I'll join it.In post 5180, Nahdia wrote:if jake wasnt actually lynched can we lynch 5g actually. like i get the point about introducing new wagons but i feel like that slot really needs rope and idk why it hasnt happened.
But lacking ability to do so, Jake is just the best option because Jake isn't town. I do feel sorry for him, he's tried to say as clearly as he can that yes he's the infected and overall, I do believe him, but lynching him would be better than lynching town.- Flavor Leaf
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No, it's an okay strategy in slme ways. I've just never seen it done so blatantly.In post 5140, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
Do you think town should not try and self-pres?In post 5139, Aristophanes wrote:
He has 1 vote (yours) and we have 1.5 days left. You should probably vote Jake of you want a chance at this?In post 5138, Hoctac wrote:If people actually want to try and hit scum, we should be lynching TSE. His only "reads" so far have been OMGUSing everyone voting/suspecting him.
Also, all of his questions this game have been aimless and are never followed up on.
Thanks.
Voting a non-wagon right now feels like LAMIST while Jake claiming every vote is self preservation is, uh, LAMISS?
I don't like either tbh.
But I do get that your motivation is at a null and I hope it comes back in the next phase!
And I mean, LAMISS isn't a thing but what I was getting at there is its so blatantly stated without regard for how it looks that it could be scum posing as town posong as scum and ai really need to lay off the WIFOMHalf meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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O.o
Uhhhh...In post 5149, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
I know I hammered myself. I can count, unlike other people here.In post 5147, OkaPoka wrote:literally not but ok
Whatevs, I'm not going back to count.
I have thought you were infected for a while now, but like you said, lynching there isn't priority in any way.
Rather than Self-pres, this reads as infected imploding at deadline. But why? To save a suspected scumbuddy? :O
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K anyway no point doing anything else. I'll to a hammer id it turns out we can't count when the next VC comes about.
There was a tidbit in mastina's recent posting that made me raise an eyebrow and worh a but of thought gave me a strong town read there, fyi.
Not going to out it, but I think it's reliable.Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)- JingleAri has appeared way too competent for me to even pretend to know what they're thinking
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Night 2 begins!
More yelling and loud argumentation occurs on the second day. "The mayor told me this!" shouts one person. "What? Preposterous! The mayor told me something completely different!" argues another. Eventually, the group sides with the first person and determines that Jake the Wolfie is a lying conspirer. The mayor provides the execution warrant, and the police executes him. Another message appears on the mayor's desk.
The mayor once again goes to sleep downcast.Message wrote:Dear Mayor of Plague Town:
Your efforts continue to be in vain. I wish you the best of luck next time.
Sincerely,
An Anonymous Plague Bringer
Jake the Wolfie,Town Discord Friend, was executed Day 2.
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Voting History as of End of Day 2:
This tracks who voted whom each day. Each line is formatted like Player A (2): Player B (2) --> Player C (3) where Player A is the person voting, player A votes player B in post #2, and player A votes player C in post #3. The use of ==> instead of --> indicates that the vote was not changed from its current target. People indented four spaces instead of two are replacements for a slot.
Key: * = L-1 Vote; + = Hammer Vote, ^ = Self-Vote, $ = Vote after Hammer.
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Day 3 begins!
mastina,Town Vaccinator, died Night 2.
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Blair,Town Frail Partygoer, died Night 2.
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An anonymous reporter reports thatzeronew infections occurred during the night.
The sun rises signaling the start of another day, and the small town of Plague Town is no closer to solving the mystery than they were on the first day. Once more, an anonymous reporter sent the mayor a detailed report about the virus's spread throughout the town. Though relieved that the rate of infection seemed to have slowed, something strange had happened. Two well-respected members of the town, mastina and Blair, were missing from the Zoom conference call. Fearing the worst, the mayor sends the coroner over to investigate. The coroner confirms the mayor's thoughts: both are dead, and despite the coroner's efforts, the reason they died remains a mystery.Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.
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