Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over

[Ircher]

Day 4 VC #7

Blatant Scum (3) (L-1): Auro (2173), Hoctac (2180), Zulfy (2193)

Umlaut (1): Looker (1825)
Hoctac (0):
Zulfy (0):
Looker (0):
Not Voting (3): Micc, Blatant Scum, Umlaut (2167)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 31, 2020 4:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-31 16:00:00).

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3. Seeking a replacement for Blatant Scum.
4. Micc replaces Morning Tweet.

[Micc]

Oh hoctac is in that group too.

VC has hoctac listed twice btw

[Ircher]

Fixed. Thanks.

[Umlaut]

I'm inclined to think Auro is town, partially because I already thought that of valoneast and partially because of how much he's participated in game-solving today. He's rejected the "all scum in the nhood" hypothesis but he's actually given reasons why he finds it improbable.

I could believe either or both of the other two are scum. Zulfy started off today saying he just outright disbelieved clidd's claim, and I'm not sure how he's come around from that to voting BS without ever really saying he believes it now when the only reason to think BS is likely a traitor is if you think Micc/clidd is telling the truth here. Hoctac said earlier that he thinks the scumteam could likely be me and Zulfy, and also hasn't really given a reason for jumping onto BS now, particularly since he said recently that he wanted to wait for a replacement (I suppose he could have decided there wasn't time, but it's not as if there was a whole lot more time when he said it).

[Umlaut]

Auro's 2070 and subsequent 2075 also exhibit a healthy paranoia of my slot that I don't think a scum!Auro would bother to fake at that point when he could just accept my proposal and coast to victory on it.

[Auro]

Individual highest equity versus a chance IMO, refer to the case on Blatant Scum; all the way from them claiming traitor to leaving possible signals to their team, and Reundo lurking out wrt posting frequency, and your predecessor pointed out Clidd's TMI as well

[Micc]

The neighbors need to justify voting BS here.

either you believe my claim and it follows that BS is off the table for today, or you don't believe my claim and you should be lynching me. There really shouldn't be any middle ground.

I think three scum in the neighborhood is kinda unlikely, but I'm not willing to bet a lynch on that. umlaut is off limits today so that I can try to get another result. if and when I die you all can consider lynching him tomorrow.

[Micc]

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:

• is Mafia-aligned
  
• knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
  
• identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists
  
• cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
  
• is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
  
  
• gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops

really need neighbors to acknowledge this and get away from the BS traitor push unless they are willing to bet the game on my slot being lying scum

[Auro]

We have already gone through all that. Please read the previous few pages.

[Micc]

You’ll have to help me out and quote it then. I feel like I’ve read day 3 thoroughly and have not come across an explanation for how (Assuming BS is a traitor) lynching him is in any way helpful. It’s basically a side mission with no benefits and all downside.

Lynch BS:
1) he’s traitor and we go to 5 players, 1 scum lynch to win -> equivalent to current state
2) he’s town and we go to 5 players, 2 scum lynch to win -> worse than current state

[Auro]

Would you commit to chain lynching two people in the hood?

[Micc]

no, umlaut can still be scum. I would say likely scum by mechanics, but I kinda think he looks better than anyone else today by play so idk.

regardless, I don't want to lynch umlaut today because it makes my power useless N4, and if my power is useless N4 that gives the scumteam more options than if my power is not useless N4.

[Zulfy]

The neighbors need to justify voting BS here.

either you believe my claim and it follows that BS is off the table for today, or you don't believe my claim and you should be lynching me. There really shouldn't be any middle ground.

I think three scum in the neighborhood is kinda unlikely, but I'm not willing to bet a lynch on that. umlaut is off limits today so that I can try to get another result. if and when I die you all can consider lynching him tomorrow.

oh this is perfect

[Ircher]

Firebringer replaces Blatant Scum.

[Auro]

Fireeeeeeee

[Firebringer]

okay i am openning up this game with my claim.

I am a town combined tracker follower. These are night actions i got
farisde N1 - didn't visit
looker N2 - didn't visit
Umlaut n3 - didn't visit

Now, I need to read. What is up my bros.

[Firebringer]

I am a dreamer. That is basically a weakened rolecop - I get to know one ability type my target can perform, excluding nightkill.
If I visit doctor, I get protective. If I visit JOAT (cop, doctor), I get protective or investigative (50% for each result). If I visit mafia goon, I get nothing. If I visit 1-shot cop who used his ablity, I get nothing.

N1: Farside - nothing
N2: Looker - nothing
N3: Umlaut - nothing

This semi-clears Umlaut, because a goon is dead and I except mafia to not have >1 goons.

lol

[Firebringer]

hey auro, can i trust u here cause ur voting me.

[Firebringer]

The neighbors need to justify voting BS here.

either you believe my claim and it follows that BS is off the table for today, or you don't believe my claim and you should be lynching me. There really shouldn't be any middle ground.

I think three scum in the neighborhood is kinda unlikely, but I'm not willing to bet a lynch on that. umlaut is off limits today so that I can try to get another result. if and when I die you all can consider lynching him tomorrow.

what r u claiming? Why u defending me?

[Firebringer]

so the gist of my 5 minute skim is that yall are lynching blatant scum slot despite having a traffic analyst result saying he doesn't have a PT?

so the assumption is that yall think hes a traitor.

but also traitors get engamed if the rest of the scum die, so they aren't even worth lynching.

but you're still lynching there?

what am I missing?

predit: I am the traffic analyst. my results are what clidd claimed they are

Since when is traffic analyst town?

My role is the whitelist role? Do i have to relook at the normal guidelines.

[Firebringer]

sinnce when is traffic analyst normal role****

[Firebringer]

gr8 traffic analyst is explicitly normal. Okay.

[Auro]

tell me who to vote

[Auro]

I am a dreamer. That is basically a weakened rolecop - I get to know one ability type my target can perform, excluding nightkill.
If I visit doctor, I get protective. If I visit JOAT (cop, doctor), I get protective or investigative (50% for each result). If I visit mafia goon, I get nothing. If I visit 1-shot cop who used his ablity, I get nothing.

N1: Farside - nothing
N2: Looker - nothing
N3: Umlaut - nothing

This semi-clears Umlaut, because a goon is dead and I except mafia to not have >1 goons.

lol

amished tell.. you TRAITOR!!!

[Firebringer]

wait do u trust me right now then? what?