Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over

[Firebringer]

okay i am openning up this game with my claim.

I am a town combined tracker follower. These are night actions i got
farisde N1 - didn't visit
looker N2 - didn't visit
Umlaut n3 - didn't visit

Now, I need to read. What is up my bros.

[Firebringer]

I am a dreamer. That is basically a weakened rolecop - I get to know one ability type my target can perform, excluding nightkill.
If I visit doctor, I get protective. If I visit JOAT (cop, doctor), I get protective or investigative (50% for each result). If I visit mafia goon, I get nothing. If I visit 1-shot cop who used his ablity, I get nothing.

N1: Farside - nothing
N2: Looker - nothing
N3: Umlaut - nothing

This semi-clears Umlaut, because a goon is dead and I except mafia to not have >1 goons.

lol

[Firebringer]

hey auro, can i trust u here cause ur voting me.

[Firebringer]

The neighbors need to justify voting BS here.

either you believe my claim and it follows that BS is off the table for today, or you don't believe my claim and you should be lynching me. There really shouldn't be any middle ground.

I think three scum in the neighborhood is kinda unlikely, but I'm not willing to bet a lynch on that. umlaut is off limits today so that I can try to get another result. if and when I die you all can consider lynching him tomorrow.

what r u claiming? Why u defending me?

[Firebringer]

so the gist of my 5 minute skim is that yall are lynching blatant scum slot despite having a traffic analyst result saying he doesn't have a PT?

so the assumption is that yall think hes a traitor.

but also traitors get engamed if the rest of the scum die, so they aren't even worth lynching.

but you're still lynching there?

what am I missing?

predit: I am the traffic analyst. my results are what clidd claimed they are

Since when is traffic analyst town?

My role is the whitelist role? Do i have to relook at the normal guidelines.

[Firebringer]

sinnce when is traffic analyst normal role****

[Firebringer]

gr8 traffic analyst is explicitly normal. Okay.

[Firebringer]

wait do u trust me right now then? what?

[Firebringer]

then what r u doing my dude

[Firebringer]

VOTE: zulfy

ehh i don't really care right now. Zulfy works as a vote till i actually have thoughts.

[Firebringer]

traitors are gay and are probably not in this game my dude.

[Firebringer]

ohh ircher designed this.

Yeah there could be traitors. Ircher has bad taste in roles/game design

[Firebringer]

I'm scum, and my buddy is in the neighborhood (whose living members are {Hoctac, Zulfy, Auro}

wait why would u be scum by this premise

[Firebringer]

I'm scum, and my buddy is in the neighborhood (whose living members are {Hoctac, Zulfy, Auro}

wait why would u be scum by this premise

I'm the only one out of the neighborhood that was never cleared by Micc's predecessor as "not having private communciation"

how would that clear u why does that mean u have to be scum. I am so confused by this.

[Firebringer]

do i need coffee right now or something because not understanding u very well umlaut. Can u break this down a bit better

[Firebringer]

ohhh okay.

So i am kind of assuming ur town here.
I haven't read any of looker posts but i don't see how that will help me read him, but according to wht u say if i assume ur town, he can't be scum based on that analysis because he would have had private communication. unless traitor shenanigans which i don't care about right now.

So we lynch in auro, hoctac, zulfy.

I am good with zulfy vote.

[Firebringer]

zulfy been like scum in last 100 games i played with him. I figure just safer to bet he is always scum tbh.

[Firebringer]

zulfy been like scum in last 100 games i played with him. I figure just safer to bet he is always scum tbh.

my gambler fallacy is pretty good.

[Firebringer]

i think my case is pretty good too. What makes u think i am a traitor? Doesn't me posting the same night actions as my predecessor show we aren't lying about role

[Firebringer]

although idgi why bs lied about his role like that lol. That was left field.

[Firebringer]

wait could my role even be a traitor role? Like i don't ever remember traitor night actions being a thing but i don't remember ever seeing that

[Firebringer]

i think my case is pretty good too. What makes u think i am a traitor? Doesn't me posting the same night actions as my predecessor show we aren't lying about role

I don't exactly

think

you are, I'm just

afraid

you are.

And you would hardly post different night actions from your predecessor if you were scum. You're not such a poor player as not to make sure you're consistent in that regard.

okay but me and my predecessor claimed two very different roles. Unless u think i am able to spin those actions into a different role automatically which maybe i can, i am pretty good at fake claims but idek if i would go for "combined tracker follower" prolly go something simple like watcher? idk.

[Firebringer]

u know what. Never waste an opportunity to boost ur own ego.

I am good enough to do that!

[Firebringer]

auro the less u interact with me, the more i get suspicious of u.

[Firebringer]

wait could my role even be a traitor role? Like i don't ever remember traitor night actions being a thing but i don't remember ever seeing that

Um

I don't think anyone believes that you're a traitor

and

have the role you claim

i am just taking as fact that my role is legit because u have to believe 3 things for my role to be bs:
1) that i read thread before claiming (lol)
2) Decided fuck his role claim, but stayed with the actions he claimed.
3) that i would claim something more complex over something simpler.

[Firebringer]

Yes, that you read his ISO before claiming isn't wild, and you specifically read his ISO - so your defense that you'd have to have read the *thread* seems dishonest.

i mean i read the iso to see if my slot claimed before me. I literally just got my role pm, posted it with a small paraphrase and then skimmed my predecessor iso.

[Firebringer]

if anything those two quotes proves my point. I even said "I am going to read" and the first thing i decided to read was my predecessor iso and found it hilarious on that claim.

[Firebringer]

I mean, if I saw the results claim with whatever that "Dreamer" shit was I'd also want to craft a different claim fast enough

BUT I DID IT IN BETWEEN GETTING MY ROLE PM AND POSTING IT IN THIS GAME. WHICH WAS LIKE 5 MINUTES AT MOST.

SO U WANT TO SAY I CAME UP WITH A NEW ROLE IN THAT TIME. I WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO READ HIS ISO BETWEEN GETTING THE ROLE PM. SEE THAT CLAIM. THEN GENERATE MY NEW CLAIM. ALL WITHIN THE 5 MINUTES OF FINDING THAT ROLE.

WHICH IS MORE LIKELY AURO!?!?!?

[Firebringer]

ohh im sorry have to correct myself. i confirmed my role six minutes before ircher announced i subbed in (that was fast ircher btw, props to u).

[Firebringer]

well i am of the uninformed opinion right now that auro/zulfy is the scum team. So yes.

[Firebringer]

The game doesn't factor in sexual orientation

r u sure?

[Firebringer]

Uhh how come you don't consider Hoctac?

because zulfy is always scum and ur interactions with me come of as scummy. I have no thoughts on hoctac

Hey, Forebringer. Why do you assume/write off Umlaut as town?

ehh i like his posts and interactions with me

Guys I don’t care if BS/fire is a traitor. Normal traitors aren’t worth lynching. Just ignore him if you think that’s the case.

i should never be ignored

[Firebringer]

Firebringer's not a traitor, he's a mafia goon.
Micc isn't a traffic analyst: he's mafia goon

wat

[Firebringer]

i don't see why hoctac is voting my slot. But then again i need to read to find why auro or zulfy is voting me too.

[Firebringer]

zulfy is L-1

[Firebringer]

do u think zulfy is scum

[Firebringer]

am i higher percent or whats the percent on everyone

[Firebringer]

okay so what is my real percentage

[Firebringer]

lol nice

[Firebringer]

Haha that's the sex number.

way to kill the joke

[Firebringer]

wouldn't that just mean looker hammers Zulfy?

[Firebringer]

what optics u talking about

[Firebringer]

why not hoctac first? Whats scummy about umlaut

[Firebringer]

and if this flips green do u still want this order?

[Firebringer]

what happened to me being higher than 50 percent

[Firebringer]

but ur voting on same wagon i am....do u think i am going to help u lynch an ally to auto lose?

[Firebringer]

Day 5 begins!

No one died night 4.

wait lol is Micc the traitor?

Btw I have night results.

Hoctac visited Micc and used a killing action.

[Firebringer]

doesn't it have to be Hoctac/Micc here? I mean no one could have saved Micc from my knowledge.

[Firebringer]

if someone wants to claim they healed Micc, I would love to here it. Except for Hoctac because I know u didn't do it lol

[Firebringer]

Traitors aren't BP in Normal games, no?

no but when u kill a traitor they join ur team as a member.

[Firebringer]

by "join his team" that means Micc is now in the PT with Hoctac. If we lynch Hoctac, Micc continues the game.

[Firebringer]

since when?

[Firebringer]

cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot

Ohhhhh....man normals change.

So micc is BP which means could be traitor BP or he was protected.

He could jsut be BP Traffic Analyst too

[Firebringer]

has everyone claimed already? I feel like we have had to had everyone claim but i haven't read much

[Firebringer]

NK Immune Miller vig

I believe u instantly

[Firebringer]

@FB

I'm pretty on top of what's normal and every claim this game has been normal except that ridiculous one you quoted.

Tl;dr: If you believe Micc's claim (and I do) then you have to believe at least one of the following:

• one of you or Looker is a Mafia Traitor
  
• I'm scum, and my buddy is in the neighborhood (whose living members are {Hoctac, Zulfy, Auro}
  
• Both remaining scum are in that neighborhood

wouldn't this mean Umlaut is scum if someone protected Micc. Or Micc is BP Traffic Analyst.

last scum would have to be one of the 2.

[Firebringer]

scum have to be either:

Hoctac/Micc
Hoctac/Umlaut

[Firebringer]

Unless... the edge case here is that Hoctac is ACTUALLY a vig, but then that's only 1 scum in initial hood. The scumteam would have to exactly be Micc+someone then

theres no fucking way Hoctac is a vigilante.

[Firebringer]

Hoctac never even suspected Micc. Don't even pretend that was a vigi shot lol

[Firebringer]

Hoctac/Umlaut makes the most sense if I think of it as Hoctac killing a player who could out his other comrade (umlaut) with night action. He probably doesn't think I check him, because my previous slot already checked him got nothing. Probably thinks i am more likely to check Umlaut or u Auro.

This makes way more sense with Hoctac/Umlaut but the fact Micc lived is throwing me through loops.

[Firebringer]

Wait...my slot never checked Hoctac, it checked Umlaut.

Hmhmmm... Maybe they didn't go for kill on me because i almost got lynched yesterday and they planned on me being the last mislynch then.

[Firebringer]

Other mech edge case is Micc+Firebringer

u keep throwing out weird combos that makes me want to say i am wrong on Umlaut.

[Firebringer]

Other mech edge case is Micc+Firebringer

u keep throwing out weird combos that makes me want to say i am wrong on Umlaut.

This would be easy endgame, no? A no kill and claim Fire followed Micc.

Right, except look at role sheet and tell me any person would approve the setup ur proposing.

[Firebringer]

Ame, Town 1-Shot Cop, was killed Night 3.

Ur telling me. This was the entire town Power. Auro?

[Firebringer]

unless i am missing some role claims here.
Micc and me are only PR claims besides "neighbor" which isn't a PR. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

To believe me + micc is a team is to believe only PR town got was a 1 shot cop.

[Firebringer]

Sure but then lynching Hoctac wins the game anyway

Agreed that if we believe it we lynch Hoctac, but solving the game is still good.

Umm, Auro+Fire means I was trying to get my traitor lynched yesterday and why would I do that?

because bussing is a thing?

[Firebringer]

also u wouldn't know who ur traitor was.

[Firebringer]

man i want to clear 2 townies from suspicion here but I can only see Looker as being town 100%. I want to say Umlaut is town by play but Hoctac action makes sense for it to be him/Hoctac; Then Micc surviving makes another ??? and Auro making me all suspicious of him.

Micc kill also kind of makes sense for anyone to kill for being PR + Not getting lynched too.

[Firebringer]

i am going to repeat this for when we lynch Hoctac. But you guys absolutely have to no lynch tomorrow to bring it down to final 3 instead of lynching in final 4. Let scum clear one more player of suspicion by doing a kill.

[Firebringer]

Micc kill makes sense for absolutely anyone. I would do it because he would hypothetically be about to out me as scum, and anyone else would do it because he would be about to out me as not scum (unless traitor).

yeah it being possible to clear u would also be a huge factor.

[Firebringer]

if we lynch Hoctac and gme just ends because Micc is traitor though. Maybe we don't have to worry about anything.

[Firebringer]

so with Firebringer faking his result on me,

What????!?!?!?!? I checked Hoctac.

[Firebringer]

how did i fake results on u Micc.

I explicitly claimed Hoctac tried to kill u.
Then u show and claim "ohh i am BP btw" so how am i faking a result on U

[Firebringer]

i almost think ircher is ansy to end the game, because he knows that Micc/Hoctac is game winning combo lol

[Firebringer]

hoctac + [partner that doesn't matter]

wouldn't this have to be Auro from ur perspective?

[Firebringer]

actually Micc, if u take everything u say as true. Then wouldn't it have to be Auro scum.

its either me + auro or auro + hoctac

[Firebringer]

Out of curiosity, Firebringer, I know you can't quote your result PMs but are they worded as generally as possible like "Hoctac made a killing action, and also Hoctac took an action on Micc" or do they just admit you can add 2+2 and say "Hoctac shot Micc"

This isn't indicative of anything, I'm just idly wondering.

it was something like Hoctac visited Micc with a killing action

[Firebringer]

actually Micc, if u take everything u say as true. Then wouldn't it have to be Auro scum.

its either me + auro or auro + hoctac

I don't see how I can rule out FB + hoctac?

Because I am specifically asking for Hoctac to be lynched? Unless u think i am purposefully wifoming in a weird way/throwing the game?

[Firebringer]

I know i can be a wild card. But i think u take wild card too far with that.

[Firebringer]

Fire, you'd vote Hoctac right now?

Ye def

VOTE: Hoctac

I think i learned enough today.

[Firebringer]

if game continues after Hoctac is lynched.
We know 100% that Auro is scum. (Umlaut is cleared by Micc)

If game ends. It ends because Micc was traitor.

[Firebringer]

Or someone else was traitor meaning Umlaut/Looker (which doesn't matter cause game still ends)

[Firebringer]

It seems very likely to me that game just ends with Hoctac lynch at this point unless u think its Auro/Hoctac.

[Firebringer]

if game continues after Hoctac is lynched.
We know 100% that Auro is scum. (Umlaut is cleared by Micc)

If game ends. It ends because Micc was traitor.

If Micc is the scum there's no reason to believe he's a traitor and not just regular scum. The only reason we suspect traitor is because of Micc's own clears.

Theres no reason for him to be normal scum for scum to shoot him.

[Firebringer]

Unless he's BP scum and GAMBIT

ngl this would be funniest gambit ive seen in long time and would give them massive props post game for it.

[Firebringer]

Day 4 begins!

Ame,

Town 1-Shot Cop

, was killed Night 3.

this was only kill that night. So ur saying scum failed to kill

[Firebringer]

(In case anyone doesn't know, roles with a disloyal modifier aren't actually seen by trackers etc. to take any action if they try to target someone of their own alignment)

Since when?

[Firebringer]

DISLOYAL fire, and I shot Ame on night 2, not 3

Why the fuck would u try to shoot ur strongest townread.

[Firebringer]

I just looked through ur ISO Hoctac. I don't get why u would use ur ability to shoot ur HIGHEST townread. Then try to shoot Micc?

[Firebringer]

Right so Hoctac is essentially claiming that Micc is scum. Because otherwise I wouldn't have seen anything.

[Firebringer]

So Hoctac sayin:
> Micc is scum because otherwise I see nothing.
> He only shooting townreads for some odd reason.
> Also apparently scum failed to kill or no killed even though Micc claims only 1 shot BP meaning even if say Auro tried to kill Micc. Micc would have died.

Yeah. This load of bs.

[Firebringer]

ur looking at a player who doesn't care about crumbs.

[Firebringer]

Mick's role made no sense with mine and fire's, it was too much power level for town.

u suspected me more than micc. So why did u shoot Micc.

[Firebringer]

and ur not even voting Micc here even though Micc should be scum to u.

[Firebringer]

so scum decided to no kill is what ur telling me?

[Firebringer]

Well, he didn't die is the thing. Which means he's BP or you're scum, but then you actually knew I used a killing action on him...

he already claimed BP

[Firebringer]

someone better give me an awfully good reason there wasn't a night kill.

[Firebringer]

someone better give me an awfully good reason there wasn't a night kill.

Because Hoctac is scum who shot Micc, who is either bulletproof town or bulletproof scum.

That's a good reason.

In Hoctac world. There is a missing shot I want explained.

[Firebringer]

since Micc claimed 1 BP. He didn't get shot twice.

[Firebringer]

i am fine either way

[Firebringer]

then the shocking twist arrives:

Looker claims doctor/BP

[Firebringer]

this setup makes more sense if me/micc are the only PR or just me.
i don't think me/hoctac/+another town savior makes sense.

[Firebringer]

Ircher as a mod ive seen him design setups to have so minimum power roles in games the reviewers had to argue with him to add extra stuff because it was so low.

[Firebringer]

Fire is a goon. The lack of kill means they knew Micc was targeted. Hoctac was claiming vig in thread, so from their PoV it's likely that Hoctac was the one taking the shot; and thus, a smart guess.
1-shot Cop + Informed FV + Disloyal Even-Night Vigilante seems like OK balance, although I'm no expert at mechanics.

This doesn't make sense.

[Firebringer]

Why would scum!Hoctac perform a killing action on Micc if Micc is scum.

because scum!Hoctac doesn't know Micc is his Traitor.

[Firebringer]

Of course you'd say that, Firebringer.

Do you want me to point out the holes?

> How would I know Hoctac shot at Micc. That is one fucking lucky guess.
> Then you assume we decided to claim no kill on top of that.

[Firebringer]

Like auro. How can u believe Hoctac is fucking shooting his town reads. His claim is designed to be used to shoot at the scummiest players in the game to clear them of suspicion and he is shooting at Micc?

If Hoctc thinks micc is more valuable to clear because he gets "100% clears" wouldn't it make more sense to shoot someone he can't clear like you? Because if Micc dies, then he is sitting around with his dick in his hand with no info.

and by all indications Micc was townread the most yesterday so it isn't a stretch of the imagination for anyone to think Micc is gonna die. Ohh and he is a PR. Why would you shoot a player the scum are likely gonna shoot. Your either playing really bad or ur just killing the towniest players like a scum would.

[Firebringer]

Yes, you performed a no kill, to make Micc appear as soft confirmed town

What?!?!?! I said Micc was hell of suspicious for coming out with this "BP" out of thin air!

[Firebringer]

I've just finished a game where I "townread" Something_Smart, but expressly planned to 180 on him contingent on a few factors. Soon after I got killed at night I reasoned that he's scum, who only killed me for one reason.

Calling potential scum obvtown is a darn good way of staying alive, so you can nail them later.

But thats not the point. If theres a sliver of a chance Micc is town, Hoctac should have still shot at u to give u the clear because in the case town!micc who gets shot by scum, he isn't left with 0 info to be added to the game.

[Firebringer]

And this whole "one of the PR is lying" is a new phenomena that I don't see expressed by Hoctac before today.

[Firebringer]

Gives me the clear and then what? In a Micc scum universe either of us would be the likely lynch after Zulfy flipped green. An inno on me won't change that gamestate. A track or follow would fail, so it's unverifiable.

A INNO ON YOU OF COURSE CHANGES THE GAME STATE

THAT CONFIRMS NO SCUM IN THE HOOD. THAT MEANS MICC IS LYING IMPLICITLY

[Firebringer]

And this whole "one of the PR is lying" is a new phenomena that I don't see expressed by Hoctac before today.

Progressions are a thing, no?

his progression is "I changed my mind during the night"

[Firebringer]

his progression is "I changed my mind during the night"

I do not find that scummy...?

Well. I can't figure out if someones "progression" is a real one when its hidden behind 48 hours of not talking about what they are thinking. I can tell u exactly why I would check Hoctac and its pretty clear just from yesterday.

[Firebringer]

Auro are u doing this because Hoctac is ur teammte and u get lynched tomorrow when this game doesn't end?

[Firebringer]

Well, if Micc and FB are pulling the luckiest, most implausible gambit I've ever seen then I'm not about to deny them their scummy.

VOTE: Auro

No.

Auro can still be dipshit town and Micc could be the traitor. Or even Looker Traitor.

We go for the most sure thing right now which is Hoctac!scum.

We will know tomorrow if its Auro

[Firebringer]

Auro I could have just hammered u btw.

So wheres ur stupid theory now

[Firebringer]

ohh i thought u had 3 for some reason.

w/e.

Ur still being dumb

[Firebringer]

If it's Hoctac+Micc

Micc can't be anything else besides a Traitor at this point and we have gone over it a like 13 times!!!!

[Firebringer]

If it's you+Micc as I believe I get quik'd when Micc comes online

This is the only possibility that has any chance of being real and its stupid.

[Firebringer]

If it's you+Micc as I believe I get quik'd when Micc comes online

This is the only possibility that has any chance of being real and its stupid.

HEY DID U FORGET ABOUT THIS!?!?!!?!?

[Firebringer]

Fuck wrong post.

[Firebringer]

If it's Hoctac+Micc

Micc can't be anything else besides a Traitor at this point and we have gone over it a like 13 times!!!!

THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Firebringer]

If it's you+Micc as I believe I get quik'd when Micc comes online

if its me and Micc we win when we lynch Hoctac so ur not getting lynched.

[Firebringer]

I now declare myself scum.
And that i have decided to protect u at all costs from being mislynched.

Ur welcome.

[Firebringer]

It's also

incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention at all

that if FB and Micc were going to conspire to frame someone today, it would be me.

i honestly thought about checking you but decided that u would never make the kill because of Micc.
in a world where Auro/U or Hoctac/U is the team, no reason for u to make a kill and out yourself when Micc could have cleared u.

[Firebringer]

also if u were scum u would have killed Micc. Which was obvious.

[Firebringer]

to me if micc turns up dead, Umlaut looked really suspicious.
But only Auro/Hoctac would perform the kill because I could check Umlaut which would undo the efforts of trying to kill Micc before getting "outed". So just bank on me not checking the neighbor and worst comes to worse just claim i am lying and try to get me lynched in LYLO.

[Firebringer]

auro ur literally banking this game on me/micc
where i am banking this game on:

Hoctac/U
Hoctac/Umlaut
Hoctac/Looker
Hoctac/Micc

any of those and I win. Who do u think is more likely right right?

[Firebringer]

Also, they'd know Hoctac was a likely vig from Hoctac's softs and claims.

HOW WOULD WE KNOW HE IS A REAL VIG?!?!?!?!

[Firebringer]

Hoctac hasn't killed one person apparently. Why would anyone think he is a real vig.
Why do u think he is a real vig when his shooting doesn't make sense as town.

[Firebringer]

Also, they'd know Hoctac was a likely vig from Hoctac's softs and claims.

HOW WOULD WE KNOW HE IS A REAL VIG?!?!?!?!

Scum Micc having BP, and Hoctac claiming vig a bunch of times.

BUT NO ONE HAS BEEN SHOT?!?!!?

Why would we think its real just because someone is memeing they are vig or some shit.

[Firebringer]

Me in scum chat with Micc apparently:
Micc: Hoctac is a real vig btw.
Me: What? How?
Micc: He has claimed it a bunch of times. Also I have BP
Me: But no one has died from vig....

[Firebringer]

also apparently in the scum hood.
Me: okay i have a plan.
Micc: listening
Me: I am going to say Hoctac tried to shoot u.
Micc: Okay? What will tht accomplish?
Me: We first no kill and then him shooting u 100% implicates him.
Micc: But i haven't claimed my BP don't u think i look weird when I claim BP?
Me: Don't worry ill throw suspicion of you. Then we mislynch Hoctac and win.

I am a genius.

[Firebringer]

also apparently in the scum hood.
Me: okay i have a plan.
Micc: listening
Me: I am going to say Hoctac tried to shoot u.
Micc: Okay? What will tht accomplish?
Me: We first no kill and then him shooting u 100% implicates him.
Micc: But i haven't claimed my BP don't u think i look weird when I claim BP?
Me: Don't worry ill throw suspicion of you. Then we mislynch Hoctac and win.

I am a genius.

Also in the scum chat:
Micc: Wait. What happens if Hoctac shoots someone else.
Me: He wont. I know for a fact with my god abilities he will shoot u if he is vig.

[Firebringer]

just nom me for greatest town player alive.

kind of bored of people thinking i am a master scum player when in reality i am just a god town player

[Firebringer]

well if i am a god scum player, don't understand why i keep getting lynched by people saying I deserve a scum nomination for my play. Even though everytime they do so i was town.

[Firebringer]

you do deserve a scummy nom

ur not even the first player this day who has told me this. Ive heard it half a dozen times.

[Firebringer]

u better nom me for greatest town player then.

[Firebringer]

u can nom me for greatest scum player too but i dont think that will be accepted when i am town. But u know, if u want to do that for memes i support u

[Firebringer]

how do we get looker to stop voting auro and to lynch hoctac to end this game

[Firebringer]

u do u auro, but im done trying to convince u.
if ur scum here u can just die tomorrow. U want to forestall judgement day, that is up to u

[Firebringer]

only problem with trying to convince looker to vote hoctac is if looker is traitor he isn't gonna vote hoctac because he loses.
if auro is the townie in this situation he deadlocked us from being able to actually lynch scum.

[Firebringer]

u do u auro, but im done trying to convince u.
if ur scum here u can just die tomorrow. U want to forestall judgement day, that is up to u

Scum Fire realizing I'm not making his game winning hammer.

i mean ive already pointed out how this is game winning hammer no matter my alignment. So good attempt?

[Firebringer]

if auro is the townie in this situation he deadlocked us from being able to actually lynch scum.

If that's the case, tomorrow Hoctac can be lynched, since scum NK. So I'm not going to be the reason for a game loss.

there is no tomorrow.
if Micc is town and we vote him. Game ends with Hoctac/Looker team. Or U/Hoctac win.
if Hoctac is town the only way scum win is if its Me/Micc

[Firebringer]

god i am sick of running in circles with u auro. if ur scum u proved ur point ur not going down easy.
If ur town ur not doing a very good job convincing umlaut who u need to vote with u which u need because I ain't voting Micc with u.

[Firebringer]

I'm trying to convince Umlaut. He's conf biasing. I acknowledged already I might be having a communication problem in establishing why my perspective makes sense to me.

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS THE MOST CONFBIASING PERSON IN THIS THREAD NOW

[Firebringer]

Umlaut = Right.
This is sad.

[Firebringer]

i think uve realized that bussing hoctac is no longer a good strategy because we will know ur scum with him when he flips. U get 0 town points for bussing and everything to lose. So ur just going off on this pretend confbiasing/tunnel on a team for slim chance u can get that game ending mislynch.

[Firebringer]

u took a u-turn when u realized that looker is gonna vote u tomorrow anyways.

[Firebringer]

we could do a no-lynch here if u want but i think u know what happens tomorrow.

[Firebringer]

well yeah if i am scum i kill looker.
i was more saying i die.

[Firebringer]

actually thinking about it, if ur scum looker always dies too.
wouldn't kill me when ur theory is Me/Hoctac even if i managed to track u to looker.

[Firebringer]

and looker is voting u. Which presumably is benefiting me. When all I want him to do is vote Hoctac.
Weird.

[Firebringer]

if we get u to L-1 and i don't hammer will this convince u of ur nonsense or will that be some ploy by me for some scummy award?

[Firebringer]

Yes, so if you want consolidation onto Hoctac and Looker isn't giving it, it's better with them just gone. That's my point.

looker voting u benefits me if i am scum, no?

[Firebringer]

like if i am scum why do i care which one of u and hoctac gets mislynched

[Firebringer]

well ur wrong because i have held back hammer as scum for game ending win for style points.
so joke is on u. Nerd.

[Firebringer]

i think it was a micro/mini; it was nearly half a year ago

[Firebringer]

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=80162
man what a funny ending to a game.

[Firebringer]

Do you feel like scum traitors know the identity of the mafia team in this game?

Traitor knows his allies (mafia). Mafia doesn't know traitor.

[Firebringer]

lol?

[Firebringer]

Please dont.

[Firebringer]

auro just hammer Hoctac.

[Firebringer]

well congrats on being a cop.

Why u not voting Hoctac. He is basiclly CCed ur claim.

Vigi practically cop.

[Firebringer]

Finally

[Firebringer]

Fast night, guyz.

This changes nothing on if the game doesn't end ur scum buddy.

[Firebringer]

Pretty sure I won. Town win. GG

[Firebringer]

ur the worst teammate auro

[Firebringer]

let me rephrase: Ur a terrible teammate.

[Firebringer]

its only funny when i do it.

[Firebringer]

no but seriously ur getting lynched tomorrow if this game doesn't end.

Everyone else has to be the Traitor.

[Firebringer]

so hoctac shoots his Mafia Scum BP teammate.....for wifom.

[Firebringer]

well if its me. I just won and am now just trolling u.

[Firebringer]

Never doubt my abilities again.

[Firebringer]

anyways, i pmed ircher to tell him hammer. Now I go watch anime and hopefully game is over when I get back.

Cya

[Firebringer]

The Irregular at Magic High School

[Firebringer]

Town Leader: Umlaut for correctly deducing the setup's nature. - (The town player who played the best this game according to the moderator.)

have to agree. well done umlaut.

[Firebringer]

Master Manipulator: Auro for his willingness to keep fighting even when mechanically cornered. (I will note that I think the entire scum team throughout this game did really well during the day phase, and it was hard to choose just one person for this award.) - (The scum player who played the best this game according to the moderator.)

and props to auro, if not for the mechanical cornering he might have won this game.

[Firebringer]

auro on one hand i should have suspected u more for ur flimsy excuse for pushing me yesterday and then flipping me to town todaay. But I was so focused on my results i kind of ignored u until u acted so avoidant to lynch Hoctac i couldn't ignore it.

I guess i did think u were suspicious yesterday but i don't think i get points for just mildly finding u suspicious

[Firebringer]

auro u can still nom me for best scum player for this game.

[Firebringer]

Deal

[Firebringer]

viewtopic.php?p=11872118#p11872118
there u go

[Firebringer]

i am disappointed dead threaad is only 3 pages. What a letdown

[Firebringer]

auro was mechanically confirmed scum. we could have went another day but he was getting lynched no matter what.

I think he conceded because of that, and he wasn't convincing either u (looker) or Umlaut he was town.

[Firebringer]

Auro ur one mistake was letting me live. :devil:

[Firebringer]

Auro ur one mistake was letting me live. :devil:

And your one mistake was falling in love with me

its not a mistake if it was destiny.

[Firebringer]

Why did you guys let Hactoc just skate by?

he bribed me with a cheeseburger.

[Firebringer]

guys, i have a confession. Besides 1-2 iso skims. I never read day 2 or day 1. Please forgive me for my sins.

[Firebringer]

I thought it meant that you all would understand if I couldn't comment on people's Meta (If I'm using this correctly)

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See? The crumb.

How could you guys not buy this though

I totally bought it. Did u not read my post about congrats on becoming a cop?

[Firebringer]

Did u not read my post about congrats on becoming a cop?

Insinuating that I wasn't Cop before. I was always Cop.

excuse u sir, u aren't a cop if u never report in for the job. U were more like a part time cop who never gets called in.

[Firebringer]

my meta read of ircher preferring to make town weak was not wrong