Mini Normal 2128: Normal Mafia - Game Over!

[Bambi Jay]

Sup. Sorry I showed up late, it appears my invite got sent to the wrong house.

Now we can party.

[Bambi Jay]

Also to be clear, there was no miller crumb.

Wtf is a miller crumb

It's something along the lines of "I'm a Miller please actually read this post I will even put it in bold if your blind" kinda things. Incidentally I will never lynch a Miller day 1.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2

Basically my response to the rest of the posts. I won't vote anyone ATM so if Bob wants to convince me of their innocence so be it.

[Bambi Jay]

Asking me immediately to get in your pocket? Very bold, good sir. I either need a good case or a bribe though. Unlike everyone else, I hold my vote in high value.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm a Miller

Not enough pizzazz. I'm not convinced.

[Bambi Jay]

Alright, who are you after then? I'd scroll and look at the VC but I wanna see your sales pitch.

[Bambi Jay]

That was @BB by the way, and yeah Pedit is what we use here Trollie. You come back recently? Did quarantine make you go "fuck it let's play mafia again."?

Hope you like it and stick around here then.

[Bambi Jay]

Dannyboy. Hmm. Lemme look into that I guess.

Past knowledge of him BB?

Pedit: Dangit man I was ready to read up on that. Sigh.

Guess I'll read Trollies case then.

[Bambi Jay]

From what I saw, Skelly (which autocorrected to Smelly, lol.) Was a skeptic of something and resisted something quickly, thereby making her scum? Did she respond to that?

[Bambi Jay]

Ehh. From just the ISO I'm sure Smelly can have a chance to explain herself to you, since your case is 138 and her last post is 122. I want more outta her and everybody before we focus on one target. Though Tweet's confirmation on Danny is interesting.

[Bambi Jay]

Hey better EJ, how's it been?

[Bambi Jay]

Make the kids do your work. Problem solved.

[Bambi Jay]

Elsa claimed Traitor as a Miller to confuse the Mafia in a Boon game and lived till the Endgame.

Someone getting away with a Miller crumb is nothing in comparison if the person is good enough. I just, uh, doubt this playerlist would be able to pull that off.

But to be more serious Molla, no jokes, are you actually claiming Miller now or nah? Sarcasm is hard to pull through the internet.

[Bambi Jay]

How do you claim traitor and not get lynched?

Simple. Be a Jay, either Elsa or Bambi will do. Alternatively, know the playerlist and know what you can get away with.

Not recommended for the faint of heart.

[Bambi Jay]

What kinda rule is that? The only rule like that also applies to Vigilantes, in which theyre ONLY town. Miller was made with Normal Games since the inception of Werewolf.

[Bambi Jay]

Your thinking of things like Framers and cops with different sanities. Also yeah Godfather is probably still banned, so you just gotta worry about Millers.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm seeing conversations happening but I'm not moved by it. Feels for the people who are sick though. Hope you get better.

My vote is still inactive.

[Bambi Jay]

I’m alive

I am also alive. Just taking a backseat at this point.

How's everyone doing by the way?

[Bambi Jay]

@Bob: Its less lurking 'scum' and more lurking to just read this on the backburner while I'm covering shifts for some of my coworkers getting sick at work.

Worst part is it's the normal spring flu but people are asshats trying to spread rumors to get the store screwed over.

Basically I'm letting day 1 go through since it seems slow and I'm gonna do myself a review during night 1 while I hopefully got free time. Just keeping notes ATM.

My vote is probably going to be unused today if I'm honest since I feel like I'll have more info to work with knowing where the rest of you are going.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm a mason, hard claiming, not a gambit.

Lolwut

Sounds fun. I believe it.

Geraintm is getting way more townpoints for putting his case mostly in 1 big thing. That's nice.

[Bambi Jay]

Did you have to prod me with the super pointy stick? Ouch.

And is it just me or am I seeing someone who wasn't here before? Was Titus here at the beginning or replaced in? Dang I gotta reread this game.

[Bambi Jay]

Since I don't wanna read too much RN on this game imma just blatantly sheep Titus. She knows what she's doing.

But I checked to be safe and it wasn't her who voted.

I'll keep in touch again and whatnot. Or maybe I'm gonna get bailed out. I dunno.

[Bambi Jay]

It's like moves in pokemon. Some moves gotta go before others in order for the battle to play out properly. Day 1 is either Bullet Punch or a Fakeout. Depending on who wins.

[Bambi Jay]

So who we voting, Titus?

[Bambi Jay]

Welp Elsa's 50p large is cancelled and she isn't online as much, so now I get to post more! Ain't that fun.

[Bambi Jay]

So who we voting, Titus?

Danyboy

Good Enough for me.

VOTE: Dannyboy

[Bambi Jay]

We're in the last day now. Hmm.

[Bambi Jay]

A day remains. Hmm.

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Espresso

Down with EJ? I can get behind that anyday.

[Bambi Jay]

Tell you what EJ. If your town, you can say who dies next.

[Bambi Jay]

How about letting the timer convince you Allo? We don't have much time.

[Bambi Jay]

Malakitten? That name... Seems kinda familiar.

I swear I've seen this cat before.

[Bambi Jay]

No No, I checked up and remembered you from Overkill 1. My facial/picture recognition made me remember the kitty.

[Bambi Jay]

Preferably within the next 13 hours or before that.

God who's getting lynched... I'm scared now.

[Bambi Jay]

Hmm. Masonry checks out then as a false positive. Or *scum conspiracy hat* It's scum PT cop to find the Masons.

Doubt that part though.

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Titus

I'm absolutely down for this

You... Vote the cop. Huh.

I gotta sleep but I pray we can actually get a lynch off.

[Bambi Jay]

Literally 1 hour left.

God I'm worried.

[Bambi Jay]

So what your saying, Allo, is...

Hmm. Masonry checks out then as a false positive. Or *scum conspiracy hat* It's scum PT cop to find the Masons.

Doubt that part though.

Your just taking my crackpot theory from earlier and claiming it as your own without crediting me.

[Bambi Jay]

I think teh interestign thing is that the the town roleblocker was simple. Thus his only use was to block the night kill.

Thus although he cant stop any scum pr. He also had no negative utility. i.e. he cant interfere with other town roles.

Uh... Your reading it wrong.

He was a RoleSTOPPER. They BLOCK people from visiting someone by roleblocking them. They usually also stop kills.

Basically he was a protective that could only protect VTs and Goons.

[Bambi Jay]

Titus lying like me. I'm so proud of her.

Seriously though guys? If we look at it from a pure Town perspective, Titus claimed to be a PT Cop and not a regular Cop in order to be less lilely to be CCd. Also with the knowledge of our "Masons" out there, then it's more believable for scum to shoot her.

Look at her actions instead of the Claim first, Mala.

[Bambi Jay]

Well while your here, you can explain the Mason "Neighborizor" thingy. You can be one but not the other, friend.

[Bambi Jay]

Unless my mind is deceiving me, you don't "add" to a Masonry. The Masonry stays that size. Never really heard of the Masonry being able to get added to.

Your both Neighbors, yeah. One of you even telling the other they're a "Loyal neighbor". But both being town? Dunno.

[Bambi Jay]

That's...

... Weird.

[Bambi Jay]

Well while your here, you can explain the Mason "Neighborizor" thingy. You can be one but not the other, friend.

Masonizer is a thing.

Is that Normal though?

[Bambi Jay]

Just checked and Masonizer isnt normal.

And I know people can say WIFOM, but can someone give me a specific reason why scum didn't shoot BBMolla last night? Particularly with the Rolestopper -aka the Protective-gone?

[Bambi Jay]

Just checked and Masonizer isnt normal.

And I know people can say WIFOM, but can someone give me a specific reason why scum didn't shoot BBMolla last night? Particularly with the Rolestopper -aka the Protective-gone?

Wouldn't a better question be why didn't scum shoot Titus?

Scum can spin a PT Cop being scum. Not so much a Mason.

Granted we now know that part was a lie but still.

[Bambi Jay]

Fake claims are apart of the meta. If only scum can fakeclaim, they get a huge advantage.

When I get off work I think I'll find us a better target then Titus. Or, if we're so gung ho on her demise, at least find the next suspicious person.

[Bambi Jay]

I've been kinda doing that, yeah.

[Bambi Jay]

The silence is shite. And I know I'm apart of the problem, but... Welp.

And honestly I've played town titus more often then not, but usually she has... Opposition. Frankly I trust this is how she is as town normally without some guy or gal pushing her buttons.

She made a play that could be scummy and she's paying the price, but shes 95% town. Scum had a reason they left her alive and didn't kill the Mason claim. They probably know something we don't based on what they got.

If I had to pick someone to hang today that would make a relevant alignment check based on interactions though? Trollie and The Mala slot. I don't know what happened with all the Skellen nonsense, but surely there's something we can learn from there. TvS? Maybe. We haven't talked about it and after Madoka appeared it feels like the slots stopped fighting.

[Bambi Jay]

Even if you KNOW scum have a shit ton more likely chance to kill you now? They left you alive for some reason n1, but n2 as we'll?

[Bambi Jay]

My God I thought you fake hammered but you did it legit.

[Bambi Jay]

Well Cake is online fml.

See ya day 3.

[Bambi Jay]

Still to do it suddenly without the intent was sucky.

[Bambi Jay]

I was waiting for titus replys. Danny you did hammer far to hasty. Though my gut is saying in that situation any scum not already on the wagon would simply let a townie hammer.


The question today is why kill bbmola now rather than last night. With esp flip i would of thought bbmola nk would be more important than Tweets.

My only guess is that they didn't know that the role stopper acted like a doctor and they were aiming for that instead. They probably also have a role blocker of some sort considering they left Titus alive.

I think teh interestign thing is that the the town roleblocker was simple. Thus his only use was to block the night kill.

Thus although he cant stop any scum pr. He also had no negative utility. i.e. he cant interfere with other town roles.

Uh... Your reading it wrong.

He was a RoleSTOPPER. They BLOCK people from visiting someone by roleblocking them. They usually also stop kills.

Basically he was a protective that could only protect VTs and Goons.

Going by that logic, weird as it is, Does this seem like a slip from Bob then?

This is fun.

[Bambi Jay]

So... Your saying you would do the opposite of that to align more with your town meta?

Cheeky.

[Bambi Jay]

Dang I was waiting for more interesting content. Hmm.

Any questions not from Bob to me?

[Bambi Jay]

yeah but if scum knows the mason (which i think they prob do given the math) maybe we should also?

I mean if we lynch town today we go into LyLo tommorow, I assume. So. Yeah.

Kinda don't want to have 2 people claim Mason tommorow in LyLo.

[Bambi Jay]

Dang I was waiting for more interesting content. Hmm.

Any questions not from Bob to me?

Yeah, who's scum, Bambi?

Hmmm.....

I shall speak to the elder gods about this.

[Bambi Jay]

Guess the neighbors don't have to reveal if they don't wanna. Feels weird though to know that they exist like that.

[Bambi Jay]

I'm unsure of many things, but I'm sure I can atleast add my vote to the counterwagon on Bob. I'm liking Mav, though with all the scum left that leaves my other options for town minimal.

VOTE: Bob

If Bob flips scum, then I think we can solve the game at the end. As long as the other Mason sticks around then I guess we're fine.

[Bambi Jay]

To be honest I feel like my scumdar is just making me block out whatever Bob is saying as lies.

Awkwardly though, it seems like every one here has already turned against him. His buddies instantly abandoned ship I think.

[Bambi Jay]

.

WHO DO YOU THINK IS SCUM?


Fourth time you have refused to answer

I'm not refusing to answer, I'm just not putting your name and bolding it.

I took this as my casual game RN, but I do legit think it's going well.

Here's my contribution today, believe it or not: I got neighbor'd by Molla last night as promised. He left a post detailing his final readslist as well. I know the other Mason and am not giving up any hints on who it is unless they directly ask me to confirm them today. I also basically know for sure the other Mason has the same readslist.

There you go Bob. Happy?

[Bambi Jay]

Nobody reacted to my last post? Sad.

[Bambi Jay]

I went MIA because staying silent at the moment is for the best for me. At this point if I talk imma just get myself lynched instead of letting town get the correct lynch or mislynch. Either way, whoever gets lynched will probably bust the game open. I'm open to Mav and stuff too.

[Bambi Jay]

Fuck, Mavs really was scum. Hmm. Okay, back in this game finally after just dodging it for awhile for... Honestly laziness and shit because no scum flip gave me anything to work with.

Don't out Trollie to L-1 please. A quickhammer today would be shite.

[Bambi Jay]

Drew, would you bet the game on it being Danny? You've probably already did it, but can ya me?

Also going to sleep but answering Troll's question in the morning.

[Bambi Jay]

Not like anyone here would hammer. That's kinda suicidal even if you are scum Trollie. Though the fact you didn't self hammer to stop the day has gotta mean something though? That your either town or you know you can get outta this?

[Bambi Jay]

Ditto but for the past week. Sigh.

Frankly though, with us all going numb to the game, that's a sign for something I think?

[Bambi Jay]

Maybe it's because if they fight they'll reveal their partner? Or they're okay with the lynch?

[Bambi Jay]

Sure. Might as well help Optimus Prime.

VOTE: Danny

[Bambi Jay]

Something something that's a Star Wars reference.

[Bambi Jay]

Considering how the game is going, I share the intent. But I still dont really trust Trollie.

[Bambi Jay]

12 hours pass. Less Then a week left. My motivation is shit. I just wanna lynch and to get shot tonight. God.

[Bambi Jay]

Literally 1 more vote and its over. Sigh.

[Bambi Jay]

Drew I'm sorry but at this point... The game is dying without any new info. Not even a single investigative this game? God.

VOTE: Drew

I just wanna end it.

[Bambi Jay]

Bob your torturing the man. But for some reason he didn't self hammer out of the kindness of his heart. So that's nice.

[Bambi Jay]

How is that L-1 on Danny? Remember my vote is on Drew now. I'll move back now if that's it though. Weird Trollie miscounted that.

[Bambi Jay]

Fuck it, sure.

VOTE: Danny

[Bambi Jay]

Someone targeted the killer last night.

what makes you think that

Ditto. Seems weird for the PR to stay quiet for so long, only to come out in MyLo. Unless your claiming it Drew. But I guess you would've claimed it before you got hung, so... Eh.

[Bambi Jay]

What makes more sense to me is that they did something different last night instead of kill. They didn't kill anybody left? Maybe the kill would've given them away. If we lynch wrong today we still probably lose.

Do we force scum to make a kill tonight with a no lynch?

[Bambi Jay]

If anyone voted you out the gate that would be very anti town. Scum have the advantage. A mislynch and they 99 percent win.

[Bambi Jay]

...its possible there are 3 scum remaining?

i dont think so...

Your really not helping your case to not be voted here, but since I'm a nice gal lemme explain.

Nearly all 13p normal games have 3 scum and 10 town. We have 1 Scum flipped. There's 6 people alive.

Therefore, 2 scum and 4 town. Hence me mentioning MyLo, otherwise known as mislynch and lose. Obviously assuming a townie didn't block the kill last night and they did something else, if we lynch town today they win during the night.

[Bambi Jay]

But if scum make a kill tommorow wouldn't it be easier to know who's the last scum are? Now we only got Danny's flip. Another kill would probably give us the final clue.

... But I guess it wouldn't matter if scum wait us out.

[Bambi Jay]

Huh. Always forget that part of the rules.

[Bambi Jay]

My god Trollie your comebacks already make it worse. I just feel the urge to vote for you or Mala and take my chances there. Drew Seems obvious, and I trust Bob slightly more then you 2. Gera is also townie. So.

[Bambi Jay]

? Well that's an interesting claim. We had a Rolestopper die day 1 but your saying our game was 2 Masons and 2 Rolestoppers?... When scum got a 1 shot Roleblocker?

Explain to me how the hell that makes any sense,

[Bambi Jay]

It's raining and I'm at work. But when I get home I feel like at that point we can make up our minds within the next 24 hours. No point stalling and second guessing ourselves after all.

[Bambi Jay]

Considering I've already been prodded twice, yeah I understand how you got that in your head, but i did comment on it earlier who I would vote. Hasn't changed.

My god Trollie your comebacks already make it worse. I just feel the urge to vote for you or Mala and take my chances there. Drew Seems obvious, and I trust Bob slightly more then you 2. Gera is also townie. So.

Trollie is it with Mala being my second choice.

[Bambi Jay]

The only info we got is the 1 weird claim though?

[Bambi Jay]

Disloyal means it only works on the opposite alignment of Trollie.

[Bambi Jay]

Will it change anything, though? Sigh.

[Bambi Jay]

Fine. No Lynch it is. Mala said she'd hammer but it's taking to long.

VOTE: No Lynch

Hopefully tommorow is better.

[Bambi Jay]

1 night is a accident, 2 is the pattern.

Its just that evens are better for scum. And scum choose to no kill so lynch today is actualy in their interest.

While nolynch atleast forces scum to remove one player.

Bob I didn't comment on this yesterday because obviously I didn't want to give scum the diea if they were dumb, but why would you baaically go "scum have a huge advantage in evens" and let them stall it?

Scum didn't kill last night and we don't know if they even will. Is this gonna end in a draw? Probably not. Atleast, it would be stupid to throw in the towel.

We're at an impasse. We're no longer in Mislynch and lose, but instead... Lynch at all or forfeit? I dontknow if that has an acronym.

[Bambi Jay]

For the love of god man. Drew. Don't quote the entire dang game, it makes it unreadable.

[Bambi Jay]

Hmm. So is today the last day then? Or do scum get one more night of no kill? When does the draw happen?

[Bambi Jay]

Actually, important question I guess.

@Mod: Will the game end in a draw during the day phase or night phase?

Because if it ends in day or night, they both give different benefits out.

[Bambi Jay]

Yeah, I think we end the day with a vote. Now or never.

I was gonna say town would've forced scum to make a kill otherwise they forfeit, but since the game ends after the DAY phase, scum could control the last day with an iron fist play.

Basically now's our chance.

[Bambi Jay]

Honestly? My heart said Trollie since the beginning and the weird claim isn't helping. Drew's case speaks slightly more to me.

[Bambi Jay]

Bob and Mala are the swing votes then. Provided they aren't both scum obviously, I think that tells me I'm right in my assessment of Trollie. I would say ger siding with trollie makes him the other scum, but I feel like Trollie/Bob or Trollie/Mala makes more sense.

Those 2 teams are my final bet. I'm voting it tommorow and locking it in basically.

[Bambi Jay]

VOTE: Trollie

Let's go.

[Bambi Jay]

Well with 6 people alive with 2 scum, naming 3 usually does give you a scum.

Why am I the third in that lineup though?

[Bambi Jay]

Trollie logic to me is solid. I am 95% sure drew is scum. The other scum is bob or mala. I was hoping scum would helpfully kill one of them and help solve the game.

Bambi, as I consider you 100% town, do you disagree with trollie logic? Because I feel if you are on board with logic them we can finish the game quickly

Well considering nobody's followed me on Trollie... I guess honestly I got to side with you guys then. If I ignore my feeling and go with pure logic I guess Trollie is the right person to side with.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Drew

[Bambi Jay]

Bob, why are you trying to stall till the last day? If we're there then it'll turn out bad for us. Atleast now we actually decide with a clear mind.

If Scum haven't killed yet then I'd rather not bet on them giving up the advantage and going into the last day with no other option.

[Bambi Jay]

Not wanting to self hammer =/= caring anymore.

I just want you people to do something, FFS.

It's clear Trollie is the one here. And if I'm wrong, then so be it. But can we at least get it fucking over with?

Gosh, this game is beyond irritating now.

ok if its trollie who out of germa and bambi is the last scum?


and you saying this is the last days is major misrep of the game state.


cake said 3 days and 3 nights without kill or 6 phases without a kill.

We dont hit 6 until night 7.



And it would be humiliating for scum to no kill for a third time in row. What scum team ever takes a draw, over any chance at winning

Bob at this point I think your trying to ham it up as scum fake insulting yourself. Why do you keep bringing this point up anyway?

[Bambi Jay]

So Drew's at L-1, right?

[Bambi Jay]

I mean jesus Christ that was hard. The fact that when Allo was alive and I bluffed being put in the different PT was priceless. Trollie being on me during that was also amazing.

I was wondering why more pf you didn't push my claim more, but I took tue bet being apathetic would make people forget to look at the inconsistency.

Also you can blame me for the no kills since I knew town would give up before us, particularly when Cakez confirmed it would end after day 7.

[Bambi Jay]

And the last month of stalling happened cuz I didn't want to risk giving up the advantage and Mala just let me do it.

The fun part was I claimed that on a whim, nobody paid any attention to it, but when it was brought up he actually targetted me along with Trollie I gave myself a clear.

My luck is impeccable.